that was the original idea that i said, he should steal souls and become stronger. I wouldnt mind seeing him take kenshi's and shangs souls. Not to mention kahns.....lol.

u guys familar with the LOK series? u remeber how Kain makes vampires? well he breathes part of his soul into them.

perhaps ermac will use this to make soldiers. clones even.

he's dressed to kick ass so hopefully he'll come prepared.

power seems to be a major theme here.

shao kahn had it
liu kang had it
quan chi craves it and got it
shang tsung stole it and craves it
kang lost it
kahn lost it
subby is using it till it kills him
reptile is being consumed with it(most likely)

perhaps ermac thinks that the only way to survive in this hellish war is to have such power. so he builds an army.

Would be pretty cool. Maybe he will use some of the souls he is made up of to create an army too. Possibly, past fallen MK characters. Kenshi's ancestors, maybe the original Kung Lao. I don't know, maybe they can do that.

wont be long till we have ermac as the boss for mk8.

yea i already mentioned the army thing, but the thing about turning absorbed souls into something different is different.

It would be great to see a region of past warriors come back to be a part of ermacs side. They could all be from totally different races.

Well they said that the returning characters will have all their old moves plus new ones. So maybe he will have moves of past fallen MK Combatants.

whats a good fighting style for him?
i dont know enough about martial arts

Ermac needs to be a villian. Theres always a lack of mk villians in mk games....the more
the merrier.
Ermac can join forces with Mavado and the red dragon. To kill kenshi, he's also red so it
makes some sense i suppose lol! his storyline can be some BS like this:

Ermac can get jealous at the fact that kenshi is now becoming proficient with Telekinesis.
So he decides, enough is enough. Despite being freed, his bitterness for Kenshi just
grew and grew.
But before Ermac begins his evil quest, he meditates and draws upon an ancient power...
more deadlier than telekinesis.
Ermac swore never to use it, but perceiving Kenshi as a threat now, all the souls that
have accumulated into Ermac brought back the technique of......sudden death.

Ok now allow me to explain.
Ermac will only have two specials alongside his martial art skills to make him a badass.

The first special will be the blast many of you guys were talking about earlier.

The second special is the sudden death move and as the name suggests, will cause his
opponent to die outright....the only drawback....it will be the hardest move in the
game to pull off and also the slowest allowing opponents to escape it.

It would work something like this:
Ermac gets into a meditating pose (cross-legged lotus position), upon doing so, you see
Ermac channelling a deeply purple/greeny coloured light and his hands, and it builds up
slowly....he then throws it out to his opponent like his projectile....
and the effect is instant death.

This way, we have a deadly badass bad guy, that does not share his powers with kenshi....
obviously the storyline idea could be better.


His fighting styles can be:

Tai jutsu which is a combo of ninjitsu and tai chi if im right (sub7th can
correct me on this)

And Choy Li Fut

Well, personally, I think you guys are going way over the top with Ermac here. I do think he looks truly AWSOME, one of the best MKD designs so far IMO, but I do hope he dies in MKD and never returns. I don't know, it's just that Ermac is a... forgetable character. I think he should be good in MKD, helping Kenshi out or something, almost like a mentor. And in the end he dies or something. As much as I like Ermac's new design, I still think he's simply an unimportant character.

thinking this should be his final hurahh and then passes the torch to ermac?


makes sense..people need closure

mister_satan666 Wrote: word..i cant see him saying "time to fight the good fight" do u think he;s insane? for some reason i think he;s insane. with all the memories and shit...i bet he does to that "we" instead of "i" its a sad life....the fact that he has no life of his own..he is just a collection of past lives. even scorpion had a life and even noob saibot had a purpose. ermac only has hate..he knows who he has to kill..that man in shang tsung

I like everything you said right there. I wouldn't want Ermac to be a "Good" guy, But i can't see him as a "Bad" guy either because he was under Shao Kahn's control. I'd rather see Ermac as a neutral, Using everyone to see his own ends met because he can't do it alone.

I could deffinately see Ermac trying to kill Shang Tsung because Shang Tsung had a strong connection to Shao Kahn and that could threaten Ermac's freedom. I also like Zentile's idea of Ermac being Kenshi's mentor.

Ermac is made up of souls... Not a soul stealer. I think making him a soul stealer would ruin his character.

Oh, Mister_Satan666? In the LoK series it's Kain, Not Kahn.

I think as the tournament progresses and as he defeats more and more opponents, Ermac should become more powerful after each victory. Ermac takes his opponents soul energy to make him stronger but it doesnt allow him to copy moves. So by the time Ermac reaches the final boss, he will be pulsating with a green aura.

did i write kahn? man i must have MK on my brain.. i know its kain...just a typo.....both series are my favorite games....and come on..the I and H are so close to each other...anyway.....to stay on topic in my own thread...ermac rules

Agreed! Ermac does indeed rule.

And i thought that it was a typo, Though i was clearing it with you.

i'm glad he's back.. .he's my favorite character.. .hopefully he'll be good in deception.. .

Well, never the less, Ermac will kick ass. No matter what his story is, I will always think he's awesome.

Ah so we are discussing about Ermac now. Ok then. Good.

Well ok...this is probably gonna be a big post..

Of course we know that Ermac's debut was in UMK3 though we've heard many times in the past about him being in the MK1 arcade because of some error and that's supposedly the reasoning behind his name.

Well..he was basically a ninja that wore red and had telekinetic powers. he didn't really have much of a storyline and after MKT, we never heard of him until Kenshi was introduced in MK: DA and we find out that Ermac is still alive and that he teaches Kenshi the secrets of telekinesis since Kenshi frees him. Although we get some mentioning of Ermac in MK: DA, he was not in the game.

Now it looks like he is in Mortal Kombat: Deception and I'm glad he is because I wanted him to be in there because of Kenshi and because I think Ermac should have another chance.

Basically, we all know (or at least we all should know) that Ermac is an enigma, a mystery. So in MK: Deception, he should be very mysterious and perhaps also a bit deceptive making you think that he'll side up with Kenshi but instead have his own motives. I think Ermac should have some sort of quest in his storyline trying to find his true self or something like that. I'd like for his story to be interesting and it can be. I'd also like to see lots of twists and surprises for him and to us.

Since it seems that he and Kenshi will both be in Mortal Kombat: Deception, they should both have the Telekinetic Slam but other than that, their telekinetic attacks and fighting styles should be different. How about Ermac using telekinesis to make himself float? Let's say he gets kicked off a building or something. He could use telekinesis to get himself back up.

As for fighting styles, he should have Taijitsu (art of the body/body method/the unarmed part of Ninjitsu, the art of stealth and espionage). Taijitsu combines all sorts of techniques from punching and kicking to trappling and grappling as well as pressure points and psychology. It should be a bit closer to the defensive side and there should probably a bit of acrobatic stuff. There are different styles of Taijitsu and they vary a lot differently from each other than how different styles of Karate or Tae Kwon Do or Jujitsu or some other styles vary from each other. Taijitsu should also be quite fast and effective but hard to master.

(note: to Nindz: Taijitsu doesn't combine Tai Chi and Ninjitsu. In Chinese, Tai means "supreme" or "grand" but in Japanese, Tai means "body". I have two other examples. Chi is Chinese for "energy" or "force" but is a Japanese term that can mean "earth" or "solids". Another example is the term Fu which is Chinese for "hard" or "tiger" but in Japanese means "wind".

Anyway, I think Ermac's other style should be none other than Xing Yi Quan (Form-Mind Boxing). I'm sure by looking at the word mind in the translation of Xing Yi Quan, I think (or at least I hope) you know where I'm coming from. Xing Yi Quan is the oldest chinese internal martial art and I think it'd be good for him. The strange thing is that from what I've seen so far in Mortal Kombat: Deception, Ermac's movements seem to be fluid and graceful kind of as if he was doing one of the 3 Chinese internal martial arts styles (Xing Yi Quan, Ba Gua Zhang, or Tai Chi Chuan) so it's possible that he might have one of those styles.

As for his third style, it seems that he has a big sword so maybe it can be some sort of Spirit Saber. Might be a slow style for him because of how big it looks but then again, it could be fast and strong.

Got to go against the grain on this one. Which sucks, because I'm disagreeing with about fifty people here.

But from what I've analyzed, my bet is that Ermac is going to be good. To see where I'm coming from, try to remember these three factoids:

1) Ermac didn't work for Kahn, he was controlled by Kahn. Whether he desired to be good, evil, or follow his own selfish ambitions, it's impossible to tell. But that brings us to our next point. The reason Kenshi freed him in the first place is because he sympathised with him being a tool, just like himself.

2) No matter what his alliance is, it is certain that Ermac willing helped Kenshi. There was no threat or obligation forcing him to do this. He repayed him, even though Kenshi never demanded compensation. This may not signify morals, but it definitely signifies nobility. If he's made out of a thousand warriors, is it possible he has some inherent honor code?

3) What does Ermac have to gain? More souls? I seriously doubt that. Vengence, maybe. I would be pissed as fuck if someone manipulated the crap out of me. Although this is not canon, it seems Kenshi and Ermac have some sort of bond due to the fact that they share the same affliction. But that isn't official(duh).

So with that said, here's my conclusion. Ermac and Kenshi are in the same game, so no doubt they'll have a connection. My theory is that Ermac is answering a distress call he senses from Kenshi. Very similar to Glacious bio from KI2. Ermac was raped of free will, and he just recently go it back. Like I said about Smoke, Ermac is probably searching for some sort of purpose. A fufillment, if you will. Maybe he gets that from aiding Kenshi.

well since u've explained ur points clearly and effectively, i'm inclined to agree with u.

well not agree..since i dont really agree with any of this...i may like an idea...and continue upon it..but i try to stay neutral..play a little devil's advocate so to speak.

with kenshi being confirmed and ermac being back right after a game mentions him..it does make sense that he'll play some role with kenshi

that much is given. it'd be dumb to have him and not even mention his helping kenshi or whatever.

good?evil?neutral? both have good points, both are possible.

ever wonder whats behind the mask?

I always have wondered what is behind his mask.

Personally I think that Ermac was put in MKD as a fan service. I doubt his story will have much relivance other than he was called on by Kenshi for help. Im hoping they came up with something more interesting than that though.

ya think so? i dont recall him being asked for as much. cage was brought back for the fans and his story still sucks. i hope ermac doesn't end up like that.

I'm just looking foward to playing him, he looks cool ready to battle!

yea, hopefully he plays well. he must be fast. he can lack in the special moves department..but he must be fast.

kenshi can have all the powers he wants..but ermac must be faster

mister_satan666 Wrote: yea, hopefully he plays well. he must be fast. he can lack in the special moves department..but he must be fast. kenshi can have all the powers he wants..but ermac must be faster

Did you notice Ermac's movements in the screenshots with him in there? They seemed to be very fluid and graceful. Maybe he'll have a fast and fluid style and a strong and rugged style. What about his sword?