Groy and Ballsac are right Red....you relied on 33 too much and didnt know what to do when it didnt work. Basically you are Great at fancy shit but dont have practical fighting skills. MKF is horrible at fancy shit but can use practical skills. It reminds me of a fight I once got into in college. The dude was talking about how he was a Black belt in Tae Kwon Do. He could do all these spinning jump kicks and shit. However, he didnt know how to counter my basic jab and over hand left so therefore he got his ass kicked. PLus when he tried a spin kick i was able to duck catch his leg and slam him. I think that this is what happened in RedW match.

u should have read my post days ago. i no mkfs connection is shiity, and his recovery is a joke, and i stated i will not alter my gameplay and take the easy basic combos...

i alter my style for no one, i will take my chances everytime.

still does not change the fact that he ducked fts that are unduckable, and cost me rds.

and im not talking about one like nightwolfs 3, and bos 3, i get those ducked all the time. its one like kabals u2 on wall, and havik.

it would be like me ducking his ermac 444 ft, but i wasnt able to cause my conn is real, and not this safe crap.

now u see with what i deal with, that kabal match where i couldnt hit him at all, i get that 1 out of every 4 games.

FTR, you're the only person on here that says my connection is "shitty" all the time considering the fact that you were lagging on my end as well I'd say we were even in that aspect.

The one time you managed to beat me Red way back, I didn't see so much about "lag" and my "shitty" connection. I missed some FT's also, that second Fujin vs. Kabal match you hit me yet I was jumping back away from you..., earlier I did his 4 hit combo went right thru you...like air.

My connection is good enough, not saying it's "the best" but who's is really? Most matches lag, some stages lag nothing you can do about it other then adapt to it or don't play online at all.

To mav, if I really, really wanted to I could abuse the AC, 33 nonsense but don't. As already know I feel that it's not worth it online and for some reason I just feel better about myself if I win without those "glitchy tactics" FT's are all I will do since in most cases you can parry before the FT's

u are so blind..

i hit u when u were jumping away?? if ur refering to my 114 catching u in the air as u are jumping back, thats not lag, thats anti air. i do it to everyone.

i u2 step fwd most jump away think u2 again, and 114 will catch u everytime.

i dont lag on ur end at all, if i did my moves would be just as safe.. and they were clearly not.

both things u have tried to expalin as lag, clearly are not.

Red, you're being an asshole now!

The game has been played, several people have commented on it even those who are not so fond of MKF.

Move on dude and say good games!

MKF, stop replying to Red, otherwise, this shit is just going to go on and on again and on again and it gets boring.

Trax

Dude, seriously NOBODY here can justify your lose lag or not, I don't give a shit who thinks that or who agrees with you, I assure you MUCH more here agree with me.

You lost man, admit it lol. Yet you wonder why I despise playing you...not cause I'm nervous or afraid of you..hardly, because when you lose you bitch to no end about lag, lag, lag.

You DO lag on my end, I have PROOF. I have the matches on tape also, with your Kabal doing dashes in mid air. Don't tell me it's a supposed to happen because that's BS. You can't be kicking me and dashing AT the same time.

You're acting as if I cheated you or had an advantage...I didn't and unlike your style I wasn't depending on strickly "glitches" ....

And the jump back, that's funny because I've never been hit before when I'm jumping away from someone. You weren't even near me on my screen, then you were close to me some how....that's not lag? right...

im responding cause he clearly has no clue what lag is.

he had made 2 examples of how i lag.. and both are false..

i dont lag at all...

not my fault people are stupid, there is no way to adust to safeness.

if one side can block a counter after a move and the other person does the same move and cant block, thats lag and thats what he cant graspe.

deep kicks are cause by lag, but both sides can do the equally, and as anti air.

Dude, everyone here lags at times. There's no such thing as "a perfect connection"

What you can't grasp is that there was lag on my end also, again to say this is a one sided thing is simply inaccurate.

I could MAYBE see your point if the score was closer.

i had one of the clearest connection games i ever played last night
but it was with some noob
omg i wish i remembered his name it was like iw as playing offline

Red i hardly saw anything unusual about any of the games. It looked to me like you just got out played. Lag is there. But it was playable to me from how it looked. You made allot of stupid mistakes that cost you dearly. Learn from them and you will play better. Like easy has an answer for every move he does. Connection or not he jumps the right way kicks at the right time to avoid taking damage.

You freaking spin at him all day long and he blocks and you eat major damage nothing about lag there. You guessed wrong most of the time. Havic ft doesn't always work buddy. GET OVER IT.

Red...that is some funny shit you said. "you alter for no one" well expect to start losing. Clearly you have never been involved in ANY form of real competition. At high levels of competition MK or otherwise what makes competitors great is the ability to adapt, alter and adjust. Basically when you said that all I heard is you sayin "I will NEVER be skilled, I will NEVER get better". Ironically, its really just a big cop out from you. YOU KNEW DAMN WELL YOU WERE GOING TO LOSE. So you are pretending that the connection didnt allow for your play style. In truth you alter your gameplay more than ANYBODY. Whenever there is a new glitch you adjust your game to it, matter of fact you base your game off of new glitches. That is why you LOVED Bo in MKD and love AC and 33 in this game. On the other hand....in reality the one who has least adjusted is MKF he really plays MKD exactly the way he played MKD...He adjusted for NO ONE and you got your ass handed to you.

I also think your behavior ENTIRELY vindicates MKF...because I dont think ANYONE would want to play an asshole who complains when they lose.

Sorry for 2 post fellas but I think this last one will end alot of shit.

Red I am going to ask you one question. Now EVERYONE already knows the answer. However, your response will either end your disputing the series or it will expose you to be a totally whiny little bitch who has hopelessly lost touch with reality. It is a simple yes or no question. You can tell us your reasoning behind the question...but nobody will care. Just make sure you answer the simple question yes or no. Here is the one question...and please do respond..............








































IF THE LAG WAS PERFECT WOULD YOU HAVE BEAT MKF IN YOUR SERIES? YES OR NO

alter meaning i would not go for the safe route. i could have 112cs 114 off all the spins i laned, but that not how i play... it i want to play safe i would use sareena and kinfe all day.

what does my over use of dash have to do with anything, he blocked, thats all fine. the shit that should have never been blocked is the prob.

i wont even start on u mesofly, see like u just said, u didnt see anything out of the normal, cause ur conn plays like his. i dont get this safeness half u get with these uplaods of 20 and 40 kbps.. my upload is 200, thats where the safe ness comes from . its one sided.

as far as 33, mkf is the only one i could not land it on since learning the secret.. atari is the other person i cant 33, but i cant 33 him with the easy guys either. and he plays me like its offline, with unmissable air cancels.


like ive said in the past, i dont no how all ur conenctions play, but i can say if that is normal to any of u, than ur guys are safer than what i play of by alot.

i should sign up for a shiity dsl dial up service for a month just to see what a 20 uplaod plays like.

Red... give it a rest.

Its clear that you could not adapt to the situation. In any case... any high level player playing through lag will ALWAYS find a solution to beating his opponent.

So your glitches wouldnt work ?

Tough

They were not supposed to be in the game in the first place.

The matches were playable as seen through the videos. You just made alot of stupid choices, and dumb mistakes resulting in your loss.

DSL isn't bad, fios is obviously better but more expensive AOL-dial up is bad. Both are slow compared to fios. Cable is ok, but fios is the best IMO from what i've seen so far. My friend has it and it flies.

But seriously, most people won't dish out a ridiculous amount of money just to play games online. Most people don't break it down every molecule for molecule connection speed when they go online. As long as it's high speed, you're good. My DSL gets the job done, and it's a high speed internet. Therefore I got it, not to mention it's also the cheapest(or one of the most) in the distant future I'll most likely get fios since it's nicer in some ways. I like my msn email.

As for the 33 connecting etc, well Atari speaking of him he was able to pull them off on me, eazy and Groy so the whole as I'll call it from now on "glitch connection test" that you're always talking about Red to see how fast or slow someones connection is is off apparently.

Other players have done that to the point of infinite(if i have no breakers)

I'd say since you care so much about "laggy connections" online, don't play online at all. It obviously bothers you. You seem to not like adjusting to opponents when you go online unless it's the rare occassion of it being "perfect" by your definition.

LET

IT

GO!!!!

and close this thread!

Red...was that a YES or a NO. Would you have beat him if there was no lag or not. Just answer the damn question. After lossing to him can you say that you would have actually WON...not it would have been closer...but would you have actually won if the connection was even or perfect for you.

i cant say the outcome,,, 80% of the games went to round 3... so the games that he had no breakers left in rd 3, and i landed my launch, and 33 missed, yes i would have won all those matches.

i also used kabal 80% of the games, cause he eliminated my havik when i knew he was going to duck all his free throws.

i think u used scorp once, no tanya, bo once, no lao, no smoke.

but the kabal thoery was useless, when 33 missed, and u couldnt counter his safeness.

i should just have gave him the charatcer he cant handle bo.. which really made no sense how he couldnt duck bo' s 3, which is very duckable, but ducked unduckable free throws.

if those exact games were played offline, and i gueesed right on u2 and 4 as much as i did, than yes he would have lost just about every game he used kaabl, cause he would have been punished everytime, no online crap play to make moves safe.

I can handle bo well, you only gave me him one match...and it went to round three. This isn't MKD where bo is insanely broken..BTW, I found your hiding behind the pillar tactic amusing in that match..you knew I would have charged you down with 50/50's like I did in the other matches that's why you did that but no complaints from me, I believe after that match I went on a 5-0 run or shortly after that.

I highly doubt I would have lost every game offline or online given the score of this recent series, my view on that. You would have to hope I waste my breakers in the first round which I don't do, if I do it's rare.

im up in damage, and u have nothing to hurt me, didnt no hiding behind the pillar was cheap now, walk around it and walk into a puke than.

Actually, Red...

Offline, you would have still lost.

Lets remember... you pretty much rely on glitches such as 3,3 for your wins.

And heres the thing.. 3,3 and Deep Kicks dont work offline !!!

HAHA... And your saying you would have beat him... non sense dude.

You gotta wise up dude. Playing this game glitch free (excluding the use of Free Throws) is very possible.

I do it... and still usually never lose a series.


What you guys need to do is play each other regularly though... quit the bitching, quit the drama... just fight eachother.

i dont realy on 33, i go for max damage ... unless im scorp, than ill use the unbreakable.

the only person better than 33s than me is check. i land them all the time, just couldnt vs him... its not relaying of something when u dont miss it.

like i said i could have 112cs 114 ed him, i choose to 33.

it all depends on the charatcter im useing.

point is, if ur ducking fts.... than the frames not showing allowing one to duck a fts, are the same frames not showing after any hitm dial, special he performs.

I am talking about you red. you looked just as safe as he did. the whole time...you just make stupid mistakes all day long. using 33 when it dont work is stupid

FOR THE FINAL COMMENT
games over you lost red
FATALITY
haha

Max Damage = 3,3

But still man...

Can you do that offline ? Hell no.


Gotta think outside of glitches and stuff which is pretty much all you relied on. So a free throw didn't work ? Well... since you realized that he was going to duck a free throw... you could have got him with any mid hit.

There is always something you can do to save the day.. and thats where adapting takes place.

Free throws are very essential.. and should always be used. However... if under certain circumstances it isnt... find a way around it.

I could probably take both you and MKF with out having to even use a free throw, and for sure... no 3,3 or A/C.

Red.. you have a PS2. I would be love to show you exactly what I'm talking about.

I cant promise a perfect connection since your on the very East Coast... and I'm here in Oregon on the West.... But I'll bet anything it would be better than MKF's People PC dial up connection.

I run 5 Mbps Cable... and that is damn well over decent.

I'll be glad to try it out with you sometime dude.. hit me up anytime.


@ MKF - Your connection does suck. If he's running 10 Mbps.. and your running trash DSL.. there is a BIG difference.

You guys are both very close to eachother right ?

It should never lag like that.

You defiently need to upgrade to Cable at least man.

You take online gaming pretty seriously it seems like... so paying an extra 10 bucks a month should not be a big problem for you.

Check and Red are both right... it was bad on your side. You did better than Red by far... but you could defiently see the lag going down.


Anyway... I dont mean to diss any of you. All I'm saying there are problems with both of you weither it be skill wise or connection wise. Its easily fixable.

Red, hit me up for games

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