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MENTHOL:I hope the super unlockable is a video of Boon fucking Playboy models on a bed full of money in his mansion.

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05/24/2004 11:06 PM (UTC)
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YOU POSTED: "You're gonna tell me now that Street Fighter is as complicated as Virtua Fighter or Dead or Alive, right?"

Now you write:You've got mental problems. I didn't say DOA was complicated, I'm just assuming that since you've taken such a defense against it.

Again, you show stupidity.


"You've got mental problems. I didn't say DOA was complicated, I'm just assuming that since you've taken such a defense against it."


I would like you to show me exactly where I took up defence for that garbage game DOA. When did you see ME take defence to DOA. Go, find it.


"I won't touch that game, except for maybe the new Ultimate that is coming out. And trust me little boy, I've been playing fighters before you were in diapers. You started something you shouldn't have with that big mouth of yours."

Well scrub, I'm here. I am willing to give you a PERSONAL lesson on the mechanics of street figher if you wish. Crossovers, links, juggles, cancels, I'll used em all on you if you wish. Get back at me.
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05/24/2004 11:10 PM (UTC)
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TwistedSpine:

I get where your coming from, after all people can only take so much...but seriously it wastes energy replying to this mess, when you could be doing something else more worth your time...plus most who enjoy flaming and insulting people, feed of off their target getting upset and fireing back, it actually makes it fun for them. My question to you: Why give them the satisfaction? I mean I know it's tough to just ignore it especially when you attacked, but it's what you gotta do. Just let it roll off your back. smile (I know that's easier said than done...but try it.)
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<---- This is scary.

05/24/2004 11:13 PM (UTC)
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TomTaz: You're right, I should try ignoring people more often. Again I wasn't bashing Street Fighter. He is either someone who 1) Only plays street fighter and gets defensive to anything you say about it even though It wasn't bashing the game at all or 2) just like you said someone who loves to make people mad. I know a few of them IRL as a matter of fact. The starter of this thread took the same approach as this guy and #2 it appears. Alright that's my last post.

SmokeYa Wrote:
Hey, whats with all the spaces?


??????

It looks like it made a bunch of extra spaces when I pasted it for some unknown reason.

But I fixed it now.
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05/24/2004 11:16 PM (UTC)
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Kombat 6 minigames section. They also quoted an interview with Ed Boon, in which he by highlight reiterated that the 4-player 'Tag' mode seen in Mortal Kombat: Tournament Edition, will not be in MK Deception, but reserved for what he called Mortal Kombat 7, which I feel will be the final piece of the series.

NOW STOP IGNORING ME AND SAYING ITS COMING OUT ON PS3 if not mk7 then mk8 there won't be an 8 there ending it soon
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05/24/2004 11:18 PM (UTC)
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twistedspine Wrote:
A fighting game feels INCOMPLETE when I can't do a fatality at the end. I mean come on, what's more fun than watching sub zero freeze you, rip off your head and spine and throw it at your body and it shatters?



Flasher game play is way more fun to me than watching a fatality.

I hardly ever do the fatalities, they don't get me as exited as they do you I guess.


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I find it VERY hard to believe that Midway would stop making their top selling game.

That's bad business, they would loose millions.
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05/24/2004 11:22 PM (UTC)
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Yeah I must apologize to everyone for overreacting, but on a less mature note, he started it :P Again I wasn't bashing Street Fighter lol I just thought (past tense) the gameplay was simple to pick up and play but apparently my years of playing were wrong. Sorry if I offended anyone by saying it was simple that wasn't the point of my thread. Bah.
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05/24/2004 11:24 PM (UTC)
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so.......wheres that Neutro dude that started this! Got scared and couldnt defend his arguement....but people honestly, the game doesnt have excellent fighting engine but it has the rest! So that makes a pretty darn good game, AND if Boon is telling the truth bout the enginge being better, I wouldnt be scared at all! DA's was good so Deceptions should be better! Just my 2 cents
I agree with you on that.


It's going to be much better than Deception for sure.

Just not much better in the department I was hoping sad

It's still going to be good though. I'm looking forward to it.
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05/24/2004 11:30 PM (UTC)
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Wow, chalk up another victory for Neuro in getting guys like Daemos, Bleed, and ColGuile to argue his points, while he himself talked about people having Ed Boon's cock in their mouths before quickly exiting.

I guarantee you he'll come back with another one of these tirades, and there will be 80 more responses because some people will always accept and love MK for what it is and others will love the series but want to see the series improve (or just become like Tekken, DOA, VF and what not) and these people will always argue. Heck, I'm one of them. So no Daemos, ColGuile, Bleed etc, I'm not claiming superiority by ANY means whatsoever.

Honestly Neuro, good troll work. I've sent you a PM. If you want to actually argue about this, NOT fight, but argue (so leave your four letter word dictionary on the shelf) then feel free.

I like these kinds of discussions, but not when they generate from how this thread started. Just my opinion.
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05/24/2004 11:33 PM (UTC)
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Bleed:

Yeah for some reason I love fatalities :) It's honestly the MAIN reason I play MK only 2nd to the well-developed unmatched characters. And I'm not scared to say that :). We all love it for different reasons. And no, I don't ever seeing the MK series die until people stop buying it. I was scared it was gone from the 5 or 6 year gap between mk4 and DA, and I think that was it's best chance at dying for good. Well it didn't and I'm very happy :) Proof that a good old series can come back in full-form.

Black_Dragon:

Amen. Good positive post, finally got all that flaming stuff out of the way. Yeah he must of got scared and cut out like most of them do.
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MENTHOL:I hope the super unlockable is a video of Boon fucking Playboy models on a bed full of money in his mansion.

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05/24/2004 11:35 PM (UTC)
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baraka407 Wrote:
Wow, chalk up another victory for Neuro in getting guys like Daemos, Bleed, and ColGuile to argue his points, while he himself talked about people having Ed Boon's cock in their mouths before quickly exiting.


LOL!

I wasn't even going to reply to this topic until I saw the retardation posted about street fighter with no backing what so ever.
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05/24/2004 11:35 PM (UTC)
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This thread should be closed! So many people disagree with you dude and you should wait until a game is out to rate it.

Peace Out

baraka407 Wrote:
Wow, chalk up another victory for Neuro in getting guys like Daemos, Bleed, and ColGuile to argue his points, while he himself talked about people having Ed Boon's cock in their mouths before quickly exiting.


That doesn't sound right man......he got you to talk too right?


And I'm not defending anybody, or putting anyone down. I'm stating my honest opinion on the matter at hand. The same as many other fans of the game whether it be that they love it, or want change.

That's all.


Peace
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05/24/2004 11:37 PM (UTC)
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Daemos Wrote:
You disagree with him, but this gang raping that is going on needs to stop NOW.

Although I don't approve of how people are responding to him, it doesn't change the fact that he's being a noob. I respected both his post and his opinion(excluding all his generalizations and bias), but there isn't any excuse for his responses as well. Fucking other people's Grandmothers? Seriously, this guy wasn't trying to get an opinion cross. He WANTED adversity.

And as for the users who are arguing with him: WHY ARE YOU FEEDING THIS FLAME WAR!?!? Do you think you can change his opinion, or are you just venting? Either way, you should have figured out after 10 posts that it wasn't working. Stop the flaming NOW! 75 posts of this bullshit isn't necessary.

My opinion: When some people played MKDA, they were expecting a game that played like a Tekken clone and looked like a Mortal Kombat game. Their expectations weren't a reality, and therefore they condemned the game. Yes, MKDA's gameplay was flawed, but it was good. Much fresher than most games as of recent. And it's expanded upon, so it would be ignorant to say it sucks at this point in time.
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05/25/2004 12:10 AM (UTC)
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Welly welly welly well!! The mustard's off the hot dog now, isn't it?

I haven't been able to reply because i have been banned. I sent an email disputing the ban, but i don't even expect anyone to read it. The "Rules and Regulations" state that i'm supposed to get a warning, which of course i never got. So if they were willing to ban me without a warning, they certainly aren't going to revoke it.

But whatever. In fact, i expect to be banned again soon, so this will be my last post here, since very few of you here really give a shit about the game anyway. All most of you wanna do is have a group hug and sing "Kumbaya Mortal Kombat" around your pissy little camp.

Anyway, my point was this: I keep hearing looney and other people talking about "accessibility". "We want our game to be accessible!" And "accessibility"-this, and "accessibility"-that.

FUCK accessibility.

Accessibility is for the great lobotomized masses that couldn't perform a d,d/f,f motion to save their lives, and hate all fighting games that they suck at simply because they're not good enough to play them. You know who they are, always whining "that move is too hard to do" or "it takes too much time to learn a character in that game."

Get the fuck out my face with that shit.

Take up fucking needlepoint or baking or something, ok? Fighting games aren't for you. I don't want MK destroyed because some of you think f,f + 2 buttons is too hard to pull off. Fuck you, fuck your accessibility, and fuck Ed boon if he thinks the only way to make a fighting game that sells is to make it for the lowest common denominator.

To the few of you that get it: keep fighting because it's YOU, not the zombie hordes, that make gaming what it is. Continue to call these developers on their bullshit, and make sure they get it right, because it's your hobby and your money at stake.

One final word for the people that "hate" me:

I don't know you well enough to care about what you think of me as a person. You can all live forever or die this second, and i don't give a shit which. I say YOU'RE the ones who don't contribute anything to the community, with your character wish list threads and your "what's the best fatality?" bullshit. Get your heads out of your asses and, at the very least, understand that i'm not here because i wanna ruin your fucking good time, you paranoid freaks. I'm here because i want MK to be the best... seems like i'm one of the only ones with the balls to try and make that happen.

Edit: i've already stated what i would change:
1. Add move properties to each character's moves that make them distinct. I'm not talking about fire and freezing, i'm talking about, say, add attacks that guarantee a throw afterwards or maybe throws that cause stagger and stun opening things up for a combo rather than 'pick the guy up and throw the guy down'. Encourage the player to be more creative. Bruce Lee said that "a good fight should be like a small play, but played seriously." You wanna tell me Ed Boon knows more about what a fight should look like than Bruce?

2. How about a wider movelist? Big moivelist and ease of play are not mutually exclusive, people. Keep the basic punches and kicks and whatever, but add some more advanced moves so that peopl who ALREADY KNOW HOW TO PLAY A FIGHTING GAME feel liek there's something to do after 6 hours with it. If accessibility is so fucking important, then it should be accessible to the veterans as well as the scrubs.

3. Try using your imagination with the different weapons characters use. Baraka is a nice addition with the blades in his arms, but what about, a monk that doesn't use the fucking staff like every other monk in the history of fighting games but who, say, uses a rope with a small blade attached to the end Jet Li-style? I mean seriously, use your imagination for something other than that bullshit story that wasn't good enough to hold a series on the WB.

4. This game sorely needs an evade/reversal system. Defense is as much a part of fighting as offense, and adds a HUGE strategic element to the game. That Ed Boon hasn't seen this until now or hasn't cared to is troublesome. Let me tell you though: it ain't in Deception, trust me.
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05/25/2004 12:21 AM (UTC)
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Mods close this thread, it is nothing but a flame war.
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05/25/2004 12:21 AM (UTC)
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Seriously, you can't state your opinion like it's the bible then expect everyone to discuss it intelligently. Saying things like MKDA is garbage because you didn't like it doesn't support any side of the debate. You fueled the flame war as well as they did.

I agree that you should have gotten a warning. But I also think your thread should have been closed after 20 posts.
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05/25/2004 12:23 AM (UTC)
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Why would they read an email asking to unban you? It's their website they can ban you without warning if they choose and rightfully so. You said some pretty graphic things, pretty unnecessary. I just don't get why people who obviously don't like MK post here. After all that BS I took from ColGuile over an innocent post, I saw one of his other posts saying "How MKD Beat out KOFMI At E3 is beyond me" How can you be an MK fan and say that? I don't get it. How can he defend a rehash? KOF has been nothing but the same game over and over again man move on.
KUMBAYA MORTAL KOMBAT, KUMBAYA
Agreed.

However I give them props for doing what they did after four MK's with the same mechanics.

They just need to advance and expand this engine. The arcade presentation is the soul and heart of MK.

We didn't go to the arcades to play a conquest mode or a chess game..
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05/25/2004 12:30 AM (UTC)
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NizzyTrizzy Wrote:
Welly welly welly well!! The mustard's off the hot dog now, isn't it?

I haven't been able to reply because i have been banned. I sent an email disputing the ban, but i don't even expect anyone to read it. The "Rules and Regulations" state that i'm supposed to get a warning, which of course i never got. So if they were willing to ban me without a warning, they certainly aren't going to revoke it.

But whatever. In fact, i expect to be banned again soon, so this will be my last post here, since very few of you here really give a shit about the game anyway. All most of you wanna do is have a group hug and sing "Kumbaya Mortal Kombat" around your pissy little camp.

Anyway, my point was this: I keep hearing looney and other people talking about "accessibility". "We want our game to be accessible!" And "accessibility"-this, and "accessibility"-that.

FUCK accessibility.

Accessibility is for the great lobotomized masses that couldn't perform a d,d/f,f motion to save their lives, and hate all fighting games that they suck at simply because they're not good enough to play them. You know who they are, always whining "that move is too hard to do" or "it takes too much time to learn a character in that game."

Get the fuck out my face with that shit.

Take up fucking needlepoint or baking or something, ok? Fighting games aren't for you. I don't want MK destroyed because some of you think f,f + 2 buttons is too hard to pull off. Fuck you, fuck your accessibility, and fuck Ed boon if he thinks the only way to make a fighting game that sells is to make it for the lowest common denominator.

To the few of you that get it: keep fighitng becase it's YOU, not the zombie hordes, that make gaming what it is. Continue to call these developers on their bullshit, and make sure they get it right, because it's your hobby and your money at stake.

One final word for the people that "hate" me:

I don't know you well enough to care about what you think of me as a person. You can all live forever or die this second, and i don't give a shit which. I say YOU'RE the ones who don't contribute anything to the community, with your character wish list threads and you "what's the best fatality?" bullshit. Get your hedas out of your asses and, at the very least, understand that i'm not here because i wanna ruin your fucking good time, you paranoid freaks. I'm here because i want MK to be the best.... seems like i'm one of the only ones with the balls to try and make that happen.

Edit: i've already stated what i would change:

1. Add move properties to each character's moves that make them distinct. I'm not talking about fire and freezing, i'm talking about, say, add attacks that guarantee a throw afterwards or maybe throws that cause stagger and stun opening things up for a combo rather than 'pick the guy up and throw the guy down'. Encourage the player to be more creative. Bruce Lee said that "a good fight should be like a small play, but played seriously." You wanna tell me Ed Boon knows more about what a fight should look like than Bruce?

2. How about a wider movelist? Big moivelist and ease of play are not mutually exclusive, people. Keep the basic punches and kicks and whatever, but add some more advanced moves so that peopl who ALREADY KNOW HOW TO PLAY A FIGHTING GAME feel liek there's something to do after 6 hours with it. If accessibility is so fucking important, then it should be accessible to the veterans as well as the scrubs.

3.


IT'S JUST A FUCKING VIDEO GAME!
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05/25/2004 12:31 AM (UTC)
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I've had enough of this, I can see that too many of you do not know how to debate things without lowering yourselves to flaming. Therefore, this thread is finished.
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