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10/26/2006 06:35 PM (UTC)
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The worst characters in the game:

Shang - He has NOTHING.

Sindel - She sucked in MKD and now she even lost FJP *sigh*.............

Shujinko - LOL @ Midway, Shujinko takes more damage than other characters, this is fucked up.

Kai - See Shang.

These are the 4 worst imo.






Hmm, you know...when playing as Shang Tsung, I sort of had a feeling that he wasn't all that great, but low tier? Hmm...you could be right.

I'm still disappointed about Sindel.

LOL @ Shujinko though. tongue

And Kai, yeah....

What about Kano? He seems low tier-ish to me.
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10/26/2006 06:39 PM (UTC)
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I've never seen so many people wrong about something in my whole life.

Do you people even play this game? Do not rank characters because they are your favorite.

KAK is top tier, thats the bottom line. KAK beats all 60+ characters easily.

This game is too new and there are too many characters to be making tier lists. This whole thread is pointless.

Before you even think about flaming me, I dare any one of you to play me before talking any smack.

If you want me to prove my point, play me on PS2 online.

If you don't own a PS2, I will borrow a copy for XBOX and play you to show you what a broken worthless game this is.

RAYROKKA


Looks like I'm gonna be kickin someone's ass online tonight then X F'N D. Also I don't think anyone ranked characters based on their favorites. Now KAK has a potential to be high, mid, or low tier. It depends on what type of character you made. Also don't act cocky that usually caused you to get owned harder than quan chi, kobra, mokap, and kira in their MKA endings combined. Don't get it twisted though, this ain't a flame or a word of warning, this is just advice lol. Also its been said that it was too early to determine the tier of each character when this thread was made lol. Also, Kai, Shang, Mokap, Meat, Jinko, and Kano are pretty much low tierish.
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10/28/2006 03:44 AM (UTC)
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rayrokka Wrote:
I've never seen so many people wrong about something in my whole life.

Do you people even play this game? Do not rank characters because they are your favorite.

KAK is top tier, thats the bottom line. KAK beats all 60+ characters easily.

This game is too new and there are too many characters to be making tier lists. This whole thread is pointless.

Before you even think about flaming me, I dare any one of you to play me before talking any smack.

If you want me to prove my point, play me on PS2 online.

If you don't own a PS2, I will borrow a copy for XBOX and play you to show you what a broken worthless game this is.

RAYROKKA




Yeah?Play me on xbox and see if you can own me.
When you get an xbox, you know where to find me.

Anyway, the list is too early IMO to judge right now but to H, dude you forgot to add Cyrax to that worst list.
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God Tier (No particular order)

1.Blaze
2.Moloch
3.Onaga

High Tier
1.Sareena
2.Noob
3.Scorpion
4.Ashrah
5.Kintaro
6.Goro
7.Shao kahn
8.Sheeva
9.Jax
10.Chameleon
11.Jade
12.Johnny cage
13.Quan chi
14.Boraicho
15.Darrius
16.Mavado
17.Hsu hao
18.Motaro
19.Drahmin

Mid Tier

1.Kung lao
2.Liu kang
3.Reptile
4.Stryker
5.Rain
6.Cyrax
7.Sektor
8.Shinnok
9.Smoke
10.Mileena
11.Tanya
12.Meat
13.Sub zero
14.Sonya
15.Kitana
16.Ermac
17.Dairou
18.Kabal
19.Hotaru
20.Nightwolf
21.Mokap
22.Kenshi
23.Raiden
24.Baraka

Low tier

1.Shang Tsung
2.Shujinko
3.Kano
4.Daegon
5.Kobra
6.Kai
7.Jarek
8.Fujin
9.Reiko
10.Li mei
11.Frost
12.Sindel
13.Nitara
14.Kira
15.Havik
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10/28/2006 06:39 AM (UTC)
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Ok this is a cry for help.

I need some serious Jade tips. I see a ew people list her as being good, but I tend to get ass raped when I play her online. My biggest problem right now is that her movement speed is just TOO SLOW. I swear to God that she walks forward the SLOWEST of all characters. I end up having to chase people all over the screen and their back-dashes seem to be faster than my forward-dashes. She cant do anything at far range so my whole match is playing catch-up with my opponent. I'd really *liek* to be able to use her competitively, but I'm thinking about just dropping her if things don't improve. Are people listing her as good purely because of her infinite?

Thanks.
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rayrokka
10/28/2006 01:17 PM (UTC)
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You're an idiot mkflegend I've seen how you start shit with everyone here and how you talk to people. You talk about how I don't know high level MK...I worked on the fuckin game. I've been breaking Ed's games for over 15 years and now I get paid for my expertise. I don't work at Midway anymore but that's how I got started in thegame industry, because I'm the real mklegend, fool.

I will never acknowledge you're existence ever again. Farewell idiot.
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10/28/2006 03:23 PM (UTC)
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KARATE Wrote:

God Tier (No particular order)

1.Moloch
2.Blaze
3.Onaga

High Tier
1.Sareena
2.Noob
3.Scorpion
4.Ashrah
5.Kintaro
6.Goro
7.Shao kahn
8.Sheeva
9.Jax
10.Chameleon
11.Jade
12.Johnny cage
13.Quan chi
14.Boraicho
15.Darrius
16.Mavado
17.Hsu hao
18.Motaro
19.Drahmin

Mid Tier

1.Kung lao
2.Liu kang
3.Reptile
4.Stryker
5.Rain
6.Cyrax
7.Sektor
8.Shinnok
9.Smoke
10.Mileena
11.Tanya
12.Meat
13.Sub zero
14.Sonya
15.Kitana
16.Ermac
17.Dairou
18.Kabal
19.Hotaru
20.Nightwolf
21.Mokap
22.Kenshi
23.Raiden
24.Baraka

Low tier

1.Shang Tsung
2.Shujinko
3.Kano
4.Daegon
5.Kobra
6.Kai
7.Jarek
8.Fujin
9.Reiko
10.Li mei
11.Frost
12.Sindel
13.Nitara
14.Kira
15.Havik


This tier list is completely wrong.
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10/28/2006 03:48 PM (UTC)
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You're an idiot mkflegend

I've seen how you start shit with everyone here and how you talk to people.

You talk about how I don't know high level MK...I worked on the fuckin game. I've been breaking Ed's games for over 15 years and now I get paid for my expertise. I don't work at Midway anymore but that's how I got started in thegame industry, because I'm the real mklegend, fool.

I will never acknowledge you're existence ever again. Farewell idiot.


LOL.

I have some observations, etc etc and played MKDA and MKD before. RayR would you approve or disprove of my observations so far?

-the game is more fluid, but do highs and lows have any real significance?
I say they do not, it all seems like taking the best mids into the battle.

-some changes were only the aforementioned heigths. Some what weer
highs or lows now hit mid, and some mids were transferred... end result
is the same brokenness, in a different statistics graph.

-new specials are almost as broke as the previous new ones seen in DA
and D. Not to mention certain unbalanced stuff, -cough cough- Sareenas
knife throw...

Btw, it would be better if you would show a bit more regularly on MKO. And btw thanks for being in MK.
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10/28/2006 08:38 PM (UTC)
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Hey Chrome,

those are very astute observations and I agree with you. Strangely enough, I think the 3D MK games are actually the only ones that can be played online. Maybe DOA4. Reason being is that games like MKA are not frame dependant at all. MKA is about imposing your will on your opponent through zoning and 50/50 mixups, therefore the game can be played on line as long as the lag is not too bad.

It's more about forcing your opponent to guess wrong and then exploiting the opening. The reason being is that most attacks are not safe to use and are easily punishable.

Also the slight lag online keeps people from doing the really broken high percentage combos and infinites, yes Moloch has an infinite but it's actually hard to pull it off online.

If it weren't for KAK, MKA would be complete garbage. KAK is it's crowning jewel and I have to give props to the MK crew for creating a feature that was so unashamed about ripping stuff off from other games. That was a very good move.

The custom movesets and fighting styles are even better, I thought the KAK was going to be purely cosmetic and then pick an existing fightging style but they took it a step further and made it completely custom.

As far as tiers go, I will go as far as saying that

Scorp, Sub, Quan Chi, Chameleon, Sareena, Noob, BRC, Cage, Liu Kang, Kung Lao, are all very good non boss non KAK characters.

Tom Brady and Konqrr have also acknowledged that Sub Zero very well could be the best guy in the game. You have to work hard, but he is very good. It takes skill to play him...but if you are skilled you will do well. I would have to agree. I'm sure Versatile would be glad to hear that Sub is top tier finally.

As much as I think the game is garbage I'm still having fun playing for the reasons stated here. I can make just about any character I want and play online and rape.

My current roster of KAK's is:

Thor
Skeletor
He-Man
Gandalf the Grey
Legolas
Yun from SF3S
Sam Fisher

I will be making more KAK's because that is what I have the most fun doing, not to mention I'm the designer of the Create a Character mode in the next game I'm working on...
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10/28/2006 08:50 PM (UTC)
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One the guessing game aspect of fighting games...

it is scary how much it applies in real scenarios. I extensively study european 900-1500 fencing and frankly...

there are versatile weapons that simply CAn restrict you to decide wether how many angles you want to guard. And there is no 3 high-mid-low, but
a complete of 9 different angles of incoming blows...

Any idea why people omit / detest etc the 50/50 or ...what I would prefer and have no beef with 33/33/33 game? because IF Mk would have MOVE PROPERTIES, than it would come close to actual simulation...

Any thoughts on thr rewamped Hotaru and Shang? /in his case, dewamped/
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10/29/2006 07:36 AM (UTC)
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Shang is good...wtf are you smoking?
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10/29/2006 07:51 AM (UTC)
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jonny cage is veryyyy good for me. but he had a huge learning curve as i used characters such as lui kang and nightwolf and kenshi in deception.
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10/29/2006 08:11 AM (UTC)
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Shang is good...wtf are you smoking?


Beats me, any video material to MKA soon? Wanna see how much I was right. He still seems awfully restricted to me.
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10/29/2006 12:42 PM (UTC)
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I agree, Shang is retarded... I just have't gotten around to playing hime which is why I haven't made a tier list. I've also had trouble with Mavado, Kabal, and Mileena players. hookswords are nuts
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10/29/2006 08:49 PM (UTC)
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Guys trust me when i say the prima tier list is wrong. They gave kitana, fujin and shao kahn 4/10. WTF!!!??? they are some of the strongest characters!!! wow

Dont trust the prima guide tier list. wink
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10/30/2006 12:19 AM (UTC)
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So, can anyone tell me a bit about Quan Chi? Weaknesses and whatnot.
He was my fav in MKDA and im wondering how different he's gotten in Armageddon?
Anyone kickin ass with him? thx.
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10/30/2006 01:15 AM (UTC)
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rayrokka Wrote:
Gandalf the Grey


What did you use for that guy's legs? The serious lack of actual robes in this game is depressing.

I agree with Chrome about Hotaru being a nightmare. I loved using him in MK: Deception, and the added specials in Armageddon help ramp him up even more. He's one of the few updated characters I'm impressed with.
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10/30/2006 07:54 AM (UTC)
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Hotaru has been turned from a dominating player into a complete monster - His BF+1 Lava punch is so safe it's unbelieveable!!! He is gonna be top tier once people get to grips with the game
Oh and Karate - No way is Fujin low tier, not the way I play himwink
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10/30/2006 08:04 AM (UTC)
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HADOKEN Wrote:
No way is Fujin low tier, not the way I play himwink


You mean less than bottom tier? Or no tier? tongue

And Hotaru is bloody irritating. he teleport and the charge punch make him evil beyond belief. He has juggling problems though which annoy me greatly, but he's awesoem once you get around it.
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10/30/2006 09:33 AM (UTC)
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The only problem I see with hotaru is that his teleport isn't a true teleport. To test this have a subby player do an ice clone and then try to teleport. You'll hit the ice clone. Other than that though I agree he's awesome right now.
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10/30/2006 09:44 AM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
HADOKEN Wrote:
No way is Fujin low tier, not the way I play himwink


You mean less than bottom tier? Or no tier? tongue


Lol

But I think Tanya is a beast in this game. She could easily be somewhere in the top 10 IMO.
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10/30/2006 10:01 AM (UTC)
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I just LOL at the prima guide tier listings HAHAHA


any way heres how i see it, but the game is still new and things will be discovered sooner or later.

i remember when Mileena was thought to be the worst in the game then we all discovered mian's safe and crazy shit.

1~ Blaze
2~ Moloch
3~ Onaga
4~ Sareena
5~ NOOB
6~ Mavado
7~ Kabal
8~ Tanya
9~ Scorpion
10~Subby~ Idk only versatiles has given me problems. which makes me think if only vers gives me problems maybe hes not as high on the list as we all think he is. come on guys vers subby from MKD was high tier.


worst character would have to be Kai WTF were they thinking when they put him together O_o sad cause he was kool in MK4




RAYROK~ DANCOCK > skeltor tongue GGS why do you always leave after 1 or 2 games when facing me? you wont get better if you dont face the better players for more then 2 games.
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10/30/2006 11:03 AM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:


That sounds much better than the Prima guide, but there are two people that I dont agree with - Noob and Kabal. I dont see why they are so good. I am not really an expert or anything in regards to gameplay or anything, so can someone explain what makes them so good. Thanks. grin
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10/30/2006 02:33 PM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
I just LOL at the prima guide tier listings HAHAHA


any way heres how i see it, but the game is still new and things will be discovered sooner or later.

i remember when Mileena was thought to be the worst in the game then we all discovered mian's safe and crazy shit.

1~ Blaze
2~ Moloch
3~ Onaga
4~ Sareena
5~ NOOB
6~ Mavado
7~ Kabal
8~ Tanya
9~ Scorpion
10~Subby~ Idk only versatiles has given me problems. which makes me think if only vers gives me problems maybe hes not as high on the list as we all think he is. come on guys vers subby from MKD was high tier.


worst character would have to be Kai WTF were they thinking when they put him together O_o sad cause he was kool in MK4




RAYROK~ DANCOCK > skeltor tongue GGS why do you always leave after 1 or 2 games when facing me? you wont get better if you dont face the better players for more then 2 games.


That's probably because I don't care about this broken ass game. There is no such word as skill in this game, it's just abusing the broken stuff. When someone beats me I'm like , "Congrats, you found the unbalanced broken stuff. Bye Bye" Besides I dunno who you guys are online...online names are different from MKO names usually. I will play you guys np, but do me a favor and get headsets so we can talk. I would prefer extended sessions, but I'm not a mind reader my psychic powers haven't worked since Psi Ops...grin Also, if you guys have a 360 and some extra cash, check out the Superman Returns game in Nov. It's the last game I worked on, I hope that everyone likes it. It comes out on PS2 and XBox also, but the 360 version is the best.
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10/30/2006 10:27 PM (UTC)
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Someone should type a short and brief summary for the characters tiers. Cuz I wanna know what advantages put them in that position.

Cuz I wanna know where Sindel, Shao Kahn, Jade, and Nitara stand
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