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10/31/2006 01:42 AM (UTC)
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MyQueenSindel Wrote:
Someone should type a short and brief summary for the characters tiers. Cuz I wanna know what advantages put them in that position.

Cuz I wanna know where Sindel, Shao Kahn, Jade, and Nitara stand


Sindel: Unfortunately, she sucks again. She's low tier quality, but she has some good things about her. It's too bad there aren't enough good things about her to really be good. Zha Chuan has crap lows again and no combos with mids in them except for the style branching combo. Kwan Do is like it was in MKD, which means it's pretty good. Her projectile is still pretty good as it comes out quickly. Her Scream is decent, I guess. Her Sliding Foot Grab is best to avoid using. Her throw STILL gives the opponent the advantage over her through quick recovery (QR). Overall, what she mainly needed were good lows and combos with mids and lows in Zha Chuan.

Shao Kahn: Shao Kahn, who I also like, is not that great either. Tai Tzu still has slow movement and all of the combos in it are unsafe on block. Only one of his combos has a mid attack in it, which is his style branching combo (1, 1, CS). You really want to stick to Tai Tzu only in terms of styles since Wrath Hammer is garbage yet again. In fact, all of the hammer styles in MKA suck big time and are perhaps the worst weapon styles in the game. Like many other characters in MKA, Shao Kahn's strengths rely on his special moves. All of them can be punsihed, but there are a few key ones to use like his Emperor's Shield and Uplifting Knee. Thankfully, his throw does 13% damage in this game as it only did 5 (yes, you read correctly) damage in MKD. He has one new special, which is the Mystic Choke. It's a very weird move, and I don't have much of an opinion on it right now. Overall, he's better than he was in MKD, but he's still kinda crappy. I'd say he's low or low-mid tier.

Jade: Jade, yet another character I like, is not as powerful as she was in MKD. Fan Zi is slightly better since attack 3 hits mid in this game unlike in MKD where it hit high. D + 4 is a good low move to use often. Bojutsu is ok, but it's unsafe. Her specials are good though. She's kind of like Shao Kahn and many other characters in that the special moves are the strengths. The Razor Rangs are good to use pretty often and be sure to use the Dodging Shadows before using the Razor Rangs. Her teleport, the Vanishing Winds, has a slow startup so you want to be careful in terms of using it. Her Shadow Kick is just ok....Her throw, which is a lot like Li Mei's MKDA throw, doesn't look too bad. I can't really say much on it, but perhaps someone else can. Overall, I'd say she's low-mid or mid tier.

Nitara: Nitara is kickass in this game though perhaps some might say otherwise. Leopard is fast and has good lows like D + 1 and D + 3. She has some new combos like 2, 4, which has good range. Kama is vicious with its combos. I think they took out that high, low, mid combo from MKDA, which is not a good thing. Her specials are kind of good. I mean, the Blood Spit looks improved to me and she can do it in the air. The Unicorn Kick is fast, does pretty good damage, but is quite punishable on block. Her escape move is decent, but I don't use it too much. Her throw to me is one of the best ones as she gains health back. Overall, Nitara is a mid or high-mid tier character.
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10/31/2006 07:41 AM (UTC)
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MyQueenSindel Wrote:
Someone should type a short and brief summary for the characters tiers. Cuz I wanna know what advantages put them in that position.

Cuz I wanna know where Sindel, Shao Kahn, Jade, and Nitara stand


Shao Kahn's definately gotten better from MKD. He can do 40-50% damage combos with his normal stance with little skill or timing. His hammer is still a bit under pwoerful, but most of its strike can juggled into near 30% damage combos. His specials are fast to the draw and powerful but leave him open.

His main problems are with fast characters that leave few openings and his fellow bosses, which are hard to juggle, something he depends on.

I'd said he's somewhere squarely in the mid to hid-mid tiers, just from the raw damage he inflicts. Any mistake his opponent makes will cost them 1/3+ of their life with minimal effort. His sluggishness and lack of mid hand-2-hand attacks ensure he won't make it to the high-tiers though.
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11/01/2006 03:06 PM (UTC)
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Neon_Spec Wrote:
Guys trust me when i say the prima tier list is wrong. They gave kitana, fujin and shao kahn 4/10. WTF!!!??? they are some of the strongest characters!!! wow

Dont trust the prima guide tier list. wink


That has been said earlier in the thread wink
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MyQueenSindel
11/02/2006 04:56 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Sindel: Unfortunately, she sucks again. She's low tier quality, but she has some good things about her. It's too bad there aren't enough good things about her to really be good. Zha Chuan has crap lows again and no combos with mids in them except for the style branching combo. Kwan Do is like it was in MKD, which means it's pretty good. Her projectile is still pretty good as it comes out quickly. Her Scream is decent, I guess. Her Sliding Foot Grab is best to avoid using. Her throw STILL gives the opponent the advantage over her through quick recovery (QR). Overall, what she mainly needed were good lows and combos with mids and lows in Zha Chuan.

Shao Kahn: Shao Kahn, who I also like, is not that great either. Tai Tzu still has slow movement and all of the combos in it are unsafe on block. Only one of his combos has a mid attack in it, which is his style branching combo (1, 1, CS). You really want to stick to Tai Tzu only in terms of styles since Wrath Hammer is garbage yet again. In fact, all of the hammer styles in MKA suck big time and are perhaps the worst weapon styles in the game. Like many other characters in MKA, Shao Kahn's strengths rely on his special moves. All of them can be punsihed, but there are a few key ones to use like his Emperor's Shield and Uplifting Knee. Thankfully, his throw does 13% damage in this game as it only did 5 (yes, you read correctly) damage in MKD. He has one new special, which is the Mystic Choke. It's a very weird move, and I don't have much of an opinion on it right now. Overall, he's better than he was in MKD, but he's still kinda crappy. I'd say he's low or low-mid tier.


Unfortunatly? I'm glad Sindel is a legit character, I'mn glad she's slow and weak but still has advantages, same with Kahn. I love playing with low tier characters because I get the respect I want.

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Jade: Jade, yet another character I like, is not as powerful as she was in MKD. Fan Zi is slightly better since attack 3 hits mid in this game unlike in MKD where it hit high. D + 4 is a good low move to use often. Bojutsu is ok, but it's unsafe. Her specials are good though. She's kind of like Shao Kahn and many other characters in that the special moves are the strengths. The Razor Rangs are good to use pretty often and be sure to use the Dodging Shadows before using the Razor Rangs. Her teleport, the Vanishing Winds, has a slow startup so you want to be careful in terms of using it. Her Shadow Kick is just ok....Her throw, which is a lot like Li Mei's MKDA throw, doesn't look too bad. I can't really say much on it, but perhaps someone else can. Overall, I'd say she's low-mid or mid tier.

Nitara: Nitara is kickass in this game though perhaps some might say otherwise. Leopard is fast and has good lows like D + 1 and D + 3. She has some new combos like 2, 4, which has good range. Kama is vicious with its combos. I think they took out that high, low, mid combo from MKDA, which is not a good thing. Her specials are kind of good. I mean, the Blood Spit looks improved to me and she can do it in the air. The Unicorn Kick is fast, does pretty good damage, but is quite punishable on block. Her escape move is decent, but I don't use it too much. Her throw to me is one of the best ones as she gains health back. Overall, Nitara is a mid or high-mid tier character.


I suppose these two can be my back ups, I love them both a lot, but I told you I like low tier characters a lot. I always love a challenge.
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11/02/2006 05:26 PM (UTC)
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Well said sindel, the important lesson to learn is that winning is not as important as showing your opponent that you can compete with him no matter what character you use, and lets not forget that the tier list was only included in the MKA world to scare us silly when whe were about to face a bully like Johny Cage or Mavado offline or online.
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11/02/2006 07:27 PM (UTC)
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My personal opinion from playing online


1. Moloch

2. Blaze

3. Onaga

4. Noob (a very safe character with good mids)

5. Sareena (very quick)

6. Scorpion

7. Sub-Zero

8. Mavado

9. Quan Chi

10. Sheeva

11. Drahmin

12. Shinnok

13. Kabal

14. Kintaro

15. Nitara (the best throw in the game)

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11/02/2006 08:25 PM (UTC)
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MyQueenSindel Wrote:
Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Sindel: Unfortunately, she sucks again. She's low tier quality, but she has some good things about her. It's too bad there aren't enough good things about her to really be good. Zha Chuan has crap lows again and no combos with mids in them except for the style branching combo. Kwan Do is like it was in MKD, which means it's pretty good. Her projectile is still pretty good as it comes out quickly. Her Scream is decent, I guess. Her Sliding Foot Grab is best to avoid using. Her throw STILL gives the opponent the advantage over her through quick recovery (QR). Overall, what she mainly needed were good lows and combos with mids and lows in Zha Chuan.

Shao Kahn: Shao Kahn, who I also like, is not that great either. Tai Tzu still has slow movement and all of the combos in it are unsafe on block. Only one of his combos has a mid attack in it, which is his style branching combo (1, 1, CS). You really want to stick to Tai Tzu only in terms of styles since Wrath Hammer is garbage yet again. In fact, all of the hammer styles in MKA suck big time and are perhaps the worst weapon styles in the game. Like many other characters in MKA, Shao Kahn's strengths rely on his special moves. All of them can be punsihed, but there are a few key ones to use like his Emperor's Shield and Uplifting Knee. Thankfully, his throw does 13% damage in this game as it only did 5 (yes, you read correctly) damage in MKD. He has one new special, which is the Mystic Choke. It's a very weird move, and I don't have much of an opinion on it right now. Overall, he's better than he was in MKD, but he's still kinda crappy. I'd say he's low or low-mid tier.


Unfortunatly? I'm glad Sindel is a legit character, I'mn glad she's slow and weak but still has advantages, same with Kahn. I love playing with low tier characters because I get the respect I want.

Sub-Zero_7th also Wrote:
Jade: Jade, yet another character I like, is not as powerful as she was in MKD. Fan Zi is slightly better since attack 3 hits mid in this game unlike in MKD where it hit high. D + 4 is a good low move to use often. Bojutsu is ok, but it's unsafe. Her specials are good though. She's kind of like Shao Kahn and many other characters in that the special moves are the strengths. The Razor Rangs are good to use pretty often and be sure to use the Dodging Shadows before using the Razor Rangs. Her teleport, the Vanishing Winds, has a slow startup so you want to be careful in terms of using it. Her Shadow Kick is just ok....Her throw, which is a lot like Li Mei's MKDA throw, doesn't look too bad. I can't really say much on it, but perhaps someone else can. Overall, I'd say she's low-mid or mid tier.

Nitara: Nitara is kickass in this game though perhaps some might say otherwise. Leopard is fast and has good lows like D + 1 and D + 3. She has some new combos like 2, 4, which has good range. Kama is vicious with its combos. I think they took out that high, low, mid combo from MKDA, which is not a good thing. Her specials are kind of good. I mean, the Blood Spit looks improved to me and she can do it in the air. The Unicorn Kick is fast, does pretty good damage, but is quite punishable on block. Her escape move is decent, but I don't use it too much. Her throw to me is one of the best ones as she gains health back. Overall, Nitara is a mid or high-mid tier character.


I suppose these two can be my back ups, I love them both a lot, but I told you I like low tier characters a lot. I always love a challenge.
MKD Sindel was a balenced legit character. the MKA sindel was toned down alot. she cant spam 4 in weapon, her throw still recovers god awafully. they didnt speed up anything in Zha chaun like they sped up noobs attacks in monkey furious
oh wait then there 4,4,4 attack in Zha the last 4 doesnt connect furious
the parry ruined sindels chance to compete in MKA.

if your winning w/ her your facing scrubs. dont even respond w/ "your not using her right" im the best sindel player and ill always be the best sindel player. i was the one bitching and moaning about her needing a new throw and to have FJP, no one else joined my whining and now we have this crappy character in MKA sad they could have atleast gave her a air fireball. she had it in MK3. look at Tanya they give her one new special she went from being low tier to top 10 possibly top 5. they made it so she can compete and it really bugs me they couldnt do the same for Kai and Sindel sad
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11/02/2006 08:26 PM (UTC)
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RasAlGhul Wrote:
My personal opinion from playing online


1. Moloch

2. Blaze

3. Onaga

4. Noob (a very safe character with good mids)

5. Sareena (very quick)

6. Scorpion

7. Sub-Zero

8. Mavado

9. Quan Chi

10. Sheeva

11. Drahmin

12. Shinnok

13. Kabal

14. Kintaro

15. Nitara (the best throw in the game)



What makes Sheeva and Kintaro that high, in your opinion?
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KARATE Wrote:

God Tier (No particular order)

1.Moloch
2.Blaze
3.Onaga

High Tier
1.Sareena
2.Noob
3.Scorpion
4.Ashrah
5.Kintaro
6.Goro
7.Shao kahn
8.Sheeva
9.Jax
10.Chameleon
11.Jade
12.Johnny cage
13.Quan chi
14.Boraicho
15.Darrius
16.Mavado
17.Hsu hao
18.Motaro
19.Drahmin

Mid Tier

1.Kung lao
2.Liu kang
3.Reptile
4.Stryker
5.Rain
6.Cyrax
7.Sektor
8.Shinnok
9.Smoke
10.Mileena
11.Tanya
12.Meat
13.Sub zero
14.Sonya
15.Kitana
16.Ermac
17.Dairou
18.Kabal
19.Hotaru
20.Nightwolf
21.Mokap
22.Kenshi
23.Raiden
24.Baraka

Low tier

1.Shang Tsung
2.Shujinko
3.Kano
4.Daegon
5.Kobra
6.Kai
7.Jarek
8.Fujin
9.Reiko
10.Li mei
11.Frost
12.Sindel
13.Nitara
14.Kira
15.Havik


This tier list is completely wrong.


Dude im a high level player and from ive seen or done myself this is right....Your opinion doesnt matter who are you anyway? Wheres your tier list?confused
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Kintaro1237
11/02/2006 11:50 PM (UTC)
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So what do Scoprion and Ashra have over Kintaro ??

They cant air combo him, which is there strenghts. I belive Kintaro should lay the smack down on em.
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11/03/2006 12:04 AM (UTC)
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KARATE Wrote:
rayrokka Wrote:
KARATE Wrote:

God Tier (No particular order)

1.Moloch
2.Blaze
3.Onaga

High Tier
1.Sareena
2.Noob
3.Scorpion
4.Ashrah
5.Kintaro
6.Goro
7.Shao kahn
8.Sheeva
9.Jax
10.Chameleon
11.Jade
12.Johnny cage
13.Quan chi
14.Boraicho
15.Darrius
16.Mavado
17.Hsu hao
18.Motaro
19.Drahmin

Mid Tier

1.Kung lao
2.Liu kang
3.Reptile
4.Stryker
5.Rain
6.Cyrax
7.Sektor
8.Shinnok
9.Smoke
10.Mileena
11.Tanya
12.Meat
13.Sub zero
14.Sonya
15.Kitana
16.Ermac
17.Dairou
18.Kabal
19.Hotaru
20.Nightwolf
21.Mokap
22.Kenshi
23.Raiden
24.Baraka

Low tier

1.Shang Tsung
2.Shujinko
3.Kano
4.Daegon
5.Kobra
6.Kai
7.Jarek
8.Fujin
9.Reiko
10.Li mei
11.Frost
12.Sindel
13.Nitara
14.Kira
15.Havik


This tier list is completely wrong.


Dude im a high level player and from ive seen or done myself this is right....Your opinion doesnt matter who are you anyway? Wheres your tier list?confused


rayrokka is Ray DeGuzman, who had a part on working on MKDA and MKD.

Kintaro1237 Wrote:
So what do Scoprion and Ashra have over Kintaro ??

They cant air combo him, which is there strenghts. I belive Kintaro should lay the smack down on em.


Scorpion has good speed and safeness. Ashrah, well...I'll let someone more knowledgable about her fill you in.
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11/03/2006 01:28 AM (UTC)
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maybe, but I been working with Kintaro for a while now, testing learning new things. At first I thougt Kintaro suck, he lack his stomp, and Sheeva and Goro had the stomp.

But after testing with him, he has some amazing combos. So far I got it up to 42 percent with out starting with the air suck move. Yes 42 percent. That pales in comparsion to say Dragon King ete, But Kintaro is a heavy hitter, and pretty quick for a boss I may add. Goro is slow as a snail. And Kintaro can out run him lol.
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11/03/2006 01:35 AM (UTC)
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it all depends on peoples preferences
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rayrokka
11/03/2006 03:41 PM (UTC)
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I'm almost positive that you haven't played every character to the highest level, because I haven't done it. Not many people have. Sub and Shang go much higher than what you have them at. I would even say that Sub Zero is high tier, at worst top mid.

I could go on forever but that is my main reasoning behind telling you that your tier list is wrong.

Also, saying you are a high level MKA player is an oxymoron.
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Eji1700
11/03/2006 04:27 PM (UTC)
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Just out of curiosity I keep seeing onaga as one of the best, and I haven't actually seen any reasons why. I screwed around with him a bit but didn't find anything amazing other than the usual boss character stuff. What am I missing here?
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11/03/2006 04:38 PM (UTC)
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Eji1700 Wrote:
Just out of curiosity I keep seeing onaga as one of the best, and I haven't actually seen any reasons why. I screwed around with him a bit but didn't find anything amazing other than the usual boss character stuff. What am I missing here?

Well I know very little about Onaga and his strategies myself but the simple fact that he cannot be juggled, thrown, and takes less damage from normal characters is enough. His backdash move is great at keeping the opponent at bay to set up for his unblockable flame breath and his ground pound. His knee smash hits low and is very fast as well. Somebody else can tell you more about him.
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