Ok, Trax. This just sounds like any other conspiracy theory. They all make sense in some way.

But are you going to tell Pig, Gerchap, Quest, and Bobby that? That they're just toys for JTF? You've obviously had no problem telling me that I had a problem with MKF due to forces outside of my control.

No offense dude but that's a load of horse shit.......pig and JTF are both obsessed with me and have been, if you can't see that then you need to seriously open your eyes larger dude. Notice do I CONSTANTLY mention them on here? Fuck no because I don't care. Unlike those two losers who made a thread about how much they hate me on MKAC which someone from here linked to me, I thought it was a joke lol. I was like...Are you fucking kidding me? Can you say GET A FUCKING LIFE!? wow lol shit, since this thread started I've gotten numerous PMS from users on here that I won't mention saying wow MKF you and trax were right about JTF and his little pals that don't see him for what he is......anywho, Bobby is a great guy personally I think and hope he will clean up JTF's mess but would love to see him as a mod here an actual legit site to begin with. My personal opinion.



I don't give a rats ass about either of them, let them obsess over me...I really don't give a shit and rather just laugh at them. The fact that they still obsess over me amuses the hell out of me honestly.

I was on the defense from the both of them and that's a fact, not to mention if I'm the one that's wrong then why are they both banned from here? Exactly......Not to mention let's see here. Trax, myself, Mav, Atari

It's all good if you like JTF, whatever man but it's still doesn't change the fact that he's a fucking lunatic and I guarantee you that MORE people realize this then don't. Only his puppets don't see that. Not saying you but anyone that seriously believes JTF's right or has valid points in the cases of our bans, his MKO bans and such. Not to mention did I mention (I think I have) but JTF stalked me on here, he spammed my damn inbox with BS and that was just uncalled for. MKO told me it was JTF under yet different names. ha, ha, ha shocker....and that he had a lifetime ban. He also tried to post bs on here recently but the thread was removed by the mods....didn't know that did ya? Well, trax and myself do and so do the mods. Ask GD? ha, I'm sure he'll tell ya....

Chaos - Why do you think I was banned? Was I breaking the rules of MKAC?

Once again, like I said on MKAC, you guys really need new hobbies.

It sucks Chaos but that's exactly what they are. His toys. Everyone that's ever been made a mod on the site got it not because they have in them. Make no mistake about this. Out of them all, I would say Quest is probably the only guy the has what it takes in terms of providing a service and probably Chap and even that's debatable. Not Pig though. Pig is user/entertainer through and through and so is Bobby.. but that's another topic.

I'm not going to go along the lines of consipiracy or shits like that or talk about which site is better (I'm not interested in that debate) but simply point to events and allow you to indepently put it all together to form your own opnion.

Seriously man, you have to understand the whole site is run by JTF himself. Admin, Reiko, Jasmin Jade, Sparta and the rest are HIM.

He has been fooling everyone under his spell of mind games from day one. You cannot and never will, trust this person or win any arguments unless it was real life and you could kick the shit out of him..lol

Trax can vouch for this because he was originally from the PAL PS2 server for MKD and MKA like myself.

JTF is a complete Psycho and best avoided, its not worth your efforts at all to reason with him. STAY CLEAR HONESTLY!!!

Pce out

As far as I know, JTF has videos of just about every DA pal player pulling or using KAK. Both sides have there sick and twisted things, both are bad.

Realy, who fucking cares?

The comunity is gone cause no one cares about MKA. Not because there are 2 sites. MKD was more broken but it was new, it was online for the first time. MKA came out 2 years later with new glitches. that's it. Everyone (but Check) played it for exactly 2 minutes.


Just to let you know however. JTF is truly a psycho sad little man. He's 35, he created himself a site, he opens Id's at his own site and talks with "each other". So sad...

Haha. Prove something.

hjs-Q shouldn't be listened to. He's 41 and has like 10 other ID's here and pretends to be interacting with different people.... Actually... he's JTF.


Why shouldn't people believe me?

I don't mind JTF. Im just happy he was nice enough to make a community for all of us to discuss MK. That says a lot about the guy right there. Who cares if hes a psycho. he did a great thing and I commend him for that

Who cares if he's a psycho? wow lol, dude do you know what the word means? lol

Anywho, he didn't make that site/community for the niceness of his heart, but rather for spite work against MKO for banning him so he made a site going after the MKA online players and it worked....well for some anyway, not others that saw thru his BS.

I know what "psycho" means. And it's not hurting me at all in this case. In fact, it's providing me with great, great entertainment daily. I guess I should stop going to the better site (for online players, MKF) because of how the owner conducts himself in real life (allegedly).

Also, it worked for the online MKA players. The ones that saw through the "BS" are severely outnumbered and are now sitting alone in the Xbox forum here or are reduced to communicating solely with the non-online crowd. I guess if this is more fun for you...

What MKA online players? No one plays MKA. The last time I plugged in I saw about 3people. And since when did it become a prerequisite to be a member of some community to have fun online?
-----------------------

And you do realize that there more than just NTSC XBOX players in the world of gaming, right?! So why would you think anyone sits here with tears in their eyes because they are missing out on an 'incredible' party that's going on elsewhere?

------------------------

But then again I understand your logic which is - so long as the candy tastes good, why the hell should anyone care where it came from? - I defy that logic!

thats right...who cares where it comes from?

especially if no one can prove it came from somewhere bad.

No one can proof what? Maybe we should get the CSI team involved.haha..
_______________

Anyone remember the post made by the "administration" as a response to accusations made by the original banned members of MKAC?

I do.

Oh JTF is my brother.
Oh he was banned because he didnt answer my questions.
Oh they were part of a conspiracy to destroy MKAC by saying Im JTF.
Oh there are no rules here so its ok to flame JTF. Not why he was banned.

I miss any????


Chaos - Meso - All Im saying is this, why bullshit people for months. A real man would have come right out with it. "I'm the HNIC. ThisisJTF.com" Smell me? My guess is he is very insecure and is not comfortable being himself in fear others may not like him, or join his site.

One more thing - dude has been calling MKLegend out to play MKA. But I challenged him and he refuses to play. What makes his lame ass excuses not to play me any different? MOST LIKELY he probably got his ass handed to him under a different account while he was trying to stalk MKLegend. He knows Ill kick his ass. Knowing JTF, he will NEVER admit it. Thats a TRUE COWARD.


Dude is an ignorant lying coward biased arrogant cherry picking internet bully who needs to pretend hes someone else to be accepted by his peers. Oh yeah, hes also an asshole.


JTF - GREAT MKA SITE......but being MK8 is geared for 10 year olds, you probably will have to change it again to cater to your new members. This time, pretend you are a 12 year girl next time when youre not feeling yourself, youll get more members that way. See ya Norman.

OK - Im done. I think I made my point. Home sweet home.

1. I must admit man, I find it a bit interesting to see you respond so fast even though I didn't address you per-se.

2. Entertainment? that's your definition of it I suppose, I enjoy all forms of entertainment...just not when it comes to "stalkers" or real "psychos" which are never a good thing. I'm not saying you have to hate or have a beef with JTF, obviously you don't but that doesn't mean everyone feels that way about him just like not everyone feels the same about the president, superior consoles or even us users....

3. I don't know how he conducts himself in real life, honestly don't want to know but speaking as how you and I are talking about someone who has been banned several times on one of the most popular MK sites online, stalked people via online, made several fake id's and made a site out of spite on behalf of MKO...I'd have to admit, I'd be surprised if he carried himself differently in real life.

4. The fact that the ones who saw thru his BS, not being on his site and being outnumbered means nothing really. MKA is dead online regardless of which site someone prefers at this stage, that's one. Secondly, MKO has way more updated, handled much better, a legit administrator(owner) and probably out numbers JTF's site with user count 10-1 when all said and done at the end of the day. So, I assure you I'm hardly alone on here and am perfectly happy. I feel sorry for Bobby honestly, and wish he would be the new "owner" flat out but as long as JTF is around, I'm won't be there. I could also make the point of the users who saw thru JTF's bs are arguably the smarter ones for a few different reasons but that would be technically insulting the users loyal to JTF's site so...I won't say that. But hey, I guess some people like watching one man talk to himself under 100 different names and bans people who disagree with him. Yeah...I can see that as "entertaining" indeed.

@Atari, interesting poing. Perhaps I'll wait to he takes interest in your challenge which was way before he supposedly challenged me....you're right he'd probably buy 5 tags just to try to play me "mysteriously" ha, ha won't work. I'm MKF30, he'll play him against JTF literally. Later

Nothing person against JTF but I really had some odd stuff happening there at that site. I just don't feel like sharing it because it is rather old.

I do not post there any more anyway.

@ atari...

He explained it with his most recent post about the admin having cancer. Thats enough for me. Again you have NO proof. Just a few things that in your OWN mind cause you to draw the conclusion you did.

None of it is enough to make JTF what you say.




This statement is all speculation. I don't know about your personal challenge. so i can't comment. But his tag is sleepy jaguar and he doesn't hide from anyone.

And no offense but i think he is better than you...he would have no reason to hide.

Thanks Meso - I knew I forgot one, Ill add it to the list....the famous "I have a secret post".....right after he banned my IP address for calling JTF (The Admin) an asshole.

......Oh my brother is really my friend who has cancer so I had to run MKAC for him while he got better.......

Any others I missed?

Ummmm.....by the way.......doesnt that mean he WAS the Administration all along?

Its cool though Meso. You a loyal dude and I respect that. I challenged JTF to a race to 10 AND I even sent a friends request that he declined saying he doesnt play quiters like me or whatever. Right, he probably is better than me. Didnt I beat you the last two series? He must flawless you 10-0. I wonder if I would win at least 1. Too bad hes a hypocrite coward.

I can't believe MEsoFLy is talking about this Cancer shit! Com'on dude! Stop being his puppet. Why are are you so scared of admitting what is so obvious?

THE ADMIN, THE ADMIN.. WTF is the Admin???? I never played this guy when I was on PAL and he definitely has no name. What kind of name is the 'The Admin' anyway??? Sounds like 'God'. The bottom line is this... Having this conversation in his defense shows you lack what it takes to simply shallow your pride and say - "hey, some shits are weird but it doesn't matter, I still like the site" and you'll earn more respect for that rather than saying shit like there is no proof.

No proofs??? Every single player from PAL confirms the guy is loco. These are people that knew him wayyyyy before I even joined their server. You still need more proofs?

=================
Here is a copy of a message in my inbox to show you there is no 'The Admin' but JT*...

-------------------------Sent to me last year--------------------------

I removed the contact us link as no one else used it but you and it serves no purpose.

No one cares if you get back on or not. If you do, I'll just publicly ban you again and delete your posts and PMs. Or maybe I'll let you continue posting. Who knows? I can do what I like. And you have to do what I like too.

You are so obviously sitting there consumed with hate and anger at being owned and there is nothing you can do.

Shame...

:)
---------------------------End of Message--------------------------------

So Fly, you need more proofs that there WAS NO 'The Admin'??? Stop being so blind! JTF has always owned the site and controlled everything within it, including yourself and other members. He's always had the source code to the site to do whatever he wanted. So going Atari's post, 'The Admin' does not exist. They were never friend nor brothers.

So maybe you should ask him why he would lie that he has a brother and now the brother has Cancer when he has always been the same guy. Are you going to keep standing by that? The next thing he would have you all moan the death of 'The Admin' after losing his battle to cancer and you WILL be 'gullible' enough to accept it.... This is a joke! Seriously!

Your move, Chief!

Ok, Admin and JTF were the same all along. Admin is JTF now. JTF is now representing 50% of the users at MKC. MEsoFLY is actually JTF. Omerta (my strongest online friend) is JTF. Most of my friends at MKC and most of the people I dislike at MKC are JTF.

Now, seriously.... let's assume that I believe every single bit of that... You know what happens now?

I keep going to MKC. I keep having conversations and arguments with different people (although it's the same guy).

And guess what. It's all the same.

Hey, JTF almost certainly rubs peanut butter all over himself and dances around in his grandma's panties every night, too. What a crazy ass that runs that site over there....

I guess we know what difference that makes to me. Zero. He's not stealing my credit card information or loading my computer with viruses. He's just providing me and others (even though he is the "others") with a nice performing online message boards site.

Tell me guys. Are you having more fun and entertainment over here by yourselves? I can tell by all the interesting conversations going on. And if conversations are of no interest to you... why are you members of an online forum?


(these are not my own thoughts, just a forward from the mind of one JTF)

No Choas, you're missing the point.

If you guys spent the past decade calling MKF a lair then on what scale would you put this mistrust. PLUS I find it disrespectful that someone open a thread under false name then reply to it under a different name. It shows a level of desperation that no one should result to. PLUS, I think it's a direct insult on the users if the owner is not able to be a man and conduct himself "Online" in the most respectful manner.

So let's cut the crap and face what's real. Integrity matters. whether it's online, your mama's room, in the park or at work... Integrity matters in everything a man does!

Trax

PS: I still remember everyone saying "Hey, FUK CROW, FUK MEGABABE".. They're cornballs.. but now the same set of folks are all like... HAIL 'The Admin'! (mind you I think that's exactly what the problem is here.. People have said too muh shit that they can't go back).. So if your logic of 'none of it matters' applies there would be no MKC in the first place.

Bingo......

Chaos - I understand where you are coming from completely. I thought the exact same way. In fact I remained quite the ENTIRE time during the exodus of MKO members to MKAC and reserved judgment. Even prior to that, I never got involved in Pigs feud with the Admin here. I could careless who JTF was and/or if he was the Admin and the Admin/Mods here didnt bother me, they were simply following the NECESSARY rules...... Isnt that always the case though???

Until it happens to you? Right? Thats when it all hits you. What they said about JTF was in fact true. I dealt with it first hand.

As a result of experience with JTF AKA Norman and the way he manipulates the entire community for his own selfish benefit.......I have made one request...MKLegend and Pig to re evaluate their beef.....Handle it like the men the are and not follow JTF's cowardly ways.

I would ask JTF to man up to his past mistakes regarding the original banned members of MKAC. But given his physical shortcomings, thats a long shot and requires balls.

first of all...Atari. I don't have a problem with you but do you really think i still take our series serious. I played you today and played the same as i do all series. I was up before the disconnect but i would have closed it out.

you don't get it. If i win EVERY series we play, you think i care if you take one even though i know i am just picking whoever?

anyways. I am with Chaos. your pm is frustrating but was that the ADMIN emailing you that or JTF?(assuming they are diff for a second)