Wow, this guy is good....fair, honest, sane. What more could you ask for in an authority figure.

All I want is for people like Groy and JTF's other little "pals" to stop going out of their way, trolling this forum only mission to bust my chops because that is technically trolling, that's it.... it's not like they say anything constructive anyway pertaining to MK.

I've dealt with Groy's personal attacks for quite some time now and it's getting really old.

Notice I've flamed the least, yet he'll just keep bringing up pointless stuff that has nothing to do with MK, my youtube vids or MK art that I've made as a bad argument and has nothing to do with this site or contributions for that matter.

@Dave lol, I respect ya but at some point everyone in life at some time proves to be ignorant about something usually. We are all human afterall right? But I'm glad you see where I'm coming from in this particular case

I'll only speak for myself here, I come here as a hobby, to chat with friends and contribute to MK with mature opinions, helping others out and most of all because I enjoy MK. End of story.

Good night

Dave, I read your thread which has now been closed by GD.

Dude, the best thing you can do is to just ignore. I don't think there's more to say on the matter because everyone pretty much knows the deal by now especially the integrity of the character in question even though they are without a doubt scared to talk about it.

Don't sweat it though; there are more important matters out there than addressing this individual.

Trax

Thanks to M2Daves most recent post, I have a clear understanding as to why JTF banned my IP adress from accessing MKAC and did not ban my user ID.

Dude wanted to continue to read my PM's. lol.


Notice I say "continue".


Anyone know why JTF has it out for me? Lets put everything into perspective.


Our beef started because during his "internet war" with Maverick (Which JTF lost to the lone but brave keyboard warrior) , I laughed out loud at Mavericks HILARIOUS retorts. Loud enough for others to see.


So he grouped me with the "other conspirators". This gave him the justification needed to exercise his right to view EVERYTHING in his power to thwart anyone planning to harm MKAC. We in America call this the "Patriot Act" which is justified by looking for "terrorist". (Google it, thank president Bush, then go vote for Obama who has vowed to undue all of Bush's UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws)


"Bulletin doesnt allow the administrators to read PM's" However, the administration has the ability to ASSIGN a password for a user. Thus my log in problems began shortly after I went to post on MKAC during the height of their fued.

Dude was changing my password to check my PM's.





I know what my password was, it was simple. I jokingly made comments about being banned the 1st time, but I knew something was askew. After weeks, eventually Quest asked about it in a PM and "the Admin" issued another password.


Fast forward - then I called JTF, (who I, for some strange reason thought was a regular user for what I dont know) an asshole. JTF responds "Go back to MKO" then bans any of my IP addresses from accessing the site. I sarcastically send another email to the Admin titled "login problems" lol knowing whats going on.....then back and forth.....blah blah blah....he gives me a final chance by offering me to sign up to MKC. I guess he wants to read more PM's.



Dude just wanted to read any incoming PM's. Thats why he didnt delete my account.


It all makes sense now. I should post the emails.

"Dude youre giving ammo to MKF and that scumbag Atari" - ROFL. Because its true.


"And I would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for those meddling kids" SMH @ Maverick - dude was crazy.

sigh.. i still dont get why you guys are wasting your time with him. anyway, i guess throw my 2 cents in as well.

i was friendly with "JTF" for a while over there, one day i get a PM from him asking me to play. i hadnt wrote him back yet. but a day later, i was talking to bone on AIM, for whatever reason, i dont recall, bone started telling me all this shit that JTF was talking about me behind my back to bone. WHILE WE WERE FRIENDS. before he ever sent me the PM asking me to play. ( thanks to bone for his help exposing JTF )

so i wrote JTF back with exactly that. " you talk shit behind my back, pretend to be my friend, then ask me for games? "

and so we went back and forth for a little while, till we ended it, at least i did. he just wanted the last word for some reason on a pointless argument.

so he wrote me back one last time, i never bothered to read it. i log in the next few days or so, and the last PM he sent me was marked as read. even though i never read it.

after that happened, i had no will to join his new site. ill say my ggs here and post my videos, and call it a day. a person who doesnt even live in north america has no business even playing on our servers to begin with. why doesnt he go back to PAL? because he is hated by that entire community, he had no choice but to leave his sorry ass around our corner.

so with that said, anyone who still supports JTF after reading this post is a fucking piece of trash, case closed! have a good one.

-Jason

On the face of it, the dude must appear to himself as incredibly smart. But if you at him objectively, it wouldn't take you too long to realize that he is actually incredibly foolish and shoots himself in the foot more often than not.

The best part of Dave's post is the comment about he made Dave's Dairou. How he tells everyone that Dave has the best Dairou. This shows how incredibly stupid this guy is. I mean, who fricken cares about the game? He thinks the definition of a man is based on how good you are in MKA even if the event in question has nothing to do with MK.

That is what I find sad and why this guy will never stop, take a step back and say, JESUS, I AM A MESS!
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That said, as Check pointed out, this is complete waste of our time. And on why he's not on PAL or why he lost all his credibility in that community, well, go figure! Anyone that thinks this dude is actually normal needs their head checked. Seriously. But hey, JTF would tell you that Trax is a SICK individual and a lying bastard!

Trax

Wow - this is a consistent thing with JTF reading users PM's, unless of course everyone is" lying as usual" and conspiring to destroy him.




Thats why I like MKO. It is nicely designed website simply dedicated to Mortal Kombat fans. It has a genuine MK community and is governed by fair and unbiased people.

MKC and MKAC were governed by a raging lunatic who makes up rules that only suite himself (that even he breaks, fucking psycho). It seems more like people are joining a Klan that operates a forum as oppose to a MKWebsite. I guess its not a bad thing, but they should at least rename it to "The Church of JTF". Or "Out World Gods 2" would be more fitting since DJDready (no offense DJ, your pretty open about and it is funny at times) and JTF both have God complexes.



Unfortunately GTrax, people will just continue to say how great the candy taste. I commend you for speaking out. You good people. Its nice to know people will still make a stand for something every now and then.



One.

Haha. Ah, you guys.

You kind of remind of the religious fanatics that stand outside the movie theatre here in town on Friday and Saturday nights telling everybody how evil they are and that they're going to hell. You know, to a point.

At least there's something to talk about here.

Religious fanatics? lol...

I don't see it as that, but rather more people opening up their eyes seeing the type of person JTF is. Playing, lying, spying and stalking users he doesn't like...

Even if we are in some way "are obsessed with JTF's madness" can't say we don't have good reason lol.

LOL@ the Atari, Mav and MKF pms...Not sure what the point of Daves thread was but JTF is a pure douchebag, nuff said. lol, MKF30 nor anyone else in this thread are "the weirdos" people however who read, stalk other users PM's IS in fact "weird and odd" Not really sure why my name kept coming up but I'm not the only person that has a beef with JTF and he obviously never saw my Dairou on xbox's side MKD or MKA, lol... but then again, it's JTF, I take what he says with a grain of salt all together about me.

this is getting a lil too old!

you guys are free to post anywhere you want no one gives a shit about it, if you want to post here fine if you want to post there fine I dont give a shit about anyone, but Chaos explained this really well, as for me I dont like this site run by big EGOS its a Mortal Kombat site and the mods dont even play MK this shit doesnt make sense at all They dont understand the game the only forum alive here is general forums and the age averge there is like 12 what an 28 almost 29 year old guy like me is gonna talk with those lil kids?? this is a real game... laggy and shit but real game, and the community doesnt even play mk how sad, grow up people grow up

Chap

MKF, you like talking with General MK Discussion crowd more than you do the online players. Of course you like it here better.

(big ass smile for you)

Gerchap, no disrespect but I find your post rather lame. You've just complained about ALL the mods on MKO yet you have no opinion on one person in question at MKC. Sounds like you're scared shit to really say what's on your mind and what you really think of the Administration at MKC and every rat and dog is made into Mods.. No disrespect to anyone again! OR maybe you just don't have any opinion on this matter of weird events on MKC which is more than obvious now. You talk of little kids here at MKO yet you have no adult perspective on the situation. Step up to the plate dude and be for something other than I am God Gerchap and I am so mature bullcrap... Follow me?

And what makes you think younger members are any less important? I have a 15 year old brother with whom I have profound conversations with. So try and not look down on people because of their age. You'd be amazed what you could learn from them. Open your mind a little bro!

PS: By all means come back and tell me to STFU but I don't think you can deny ALL the stuff I've just stated above.




What's with this 'like it better here' , 'like it better there' line of shit? Who cares Chaos? Sounds like talk of my friends are better than yours. Seriously, why is the sense of having fun directly linked to which site one belongs to. Does that really identify us? If it does, then I think we're all sad punks! ALL OF US!

The point is this; it is irrelevant where people post and I for one couldn't care less because it actually means jack sh!t to my way of life.

Trax

Actually, I like chatting with everyone on this site on several forums. MK8, General, Xbox live, Art forums, Classic, Pocket.....I don't just stick to one forum.

BTW, @Gerchap I understand your view but just want to correct ya on the "age" factor. There's only a handful of teens on here, the rest are all adults I assure you that most people on this forum don't even know, but I do.

Funniest thing and what stands out MOST about that whole "Admin cant read PM's thread" on MKC is the link to EASY CALLS HIM OUT that contains Groy's post in that same MKAC thread...

"Atari why are you lying saying you got banned? That's lame man, and you talk about shit that other people do is lame. The admin is right I looked on the members' list and your name is there. This is a good site come over here and post don't be like MKF. Just by you doing that there is no need for me to listen to anymore of that JTF=admin bullshit." - GROY

........ That is until JTF mustered up the balls and told everyone his dirty little "secret" about his "brother". Im sure you heard him then right? lol.


Keep in mind Groy is a well respected individual throughout the MK community and I respect his opinion, just like mostly everyone else does. So.....let’s begin.


"Just by you doing that there is no need for me to listen to anymore of that JTF=admin bullshit."

Besides the fact that Groy was indeed proven to be misled by "The Admin" in due time, the post in itself is represents something more important. It gives insight to the reasoning behind JTF's actions. That little statement Groy made is what the majorities of MKAC felt at the time, and most still do. Even I felt the same way. And all he had to do is discredit MY actions to gain the masses approval for HIS. And it works. Unfortunately, this is what allows people like George Bush to get away with attacking Iraq, then of course uses his executive power to pardon himself from any potential war crimes. (Vote Obama).


"Please dont be like MKF" - Shortly after, I have been publicly compared to MKF, Maverick, DNC by JTF on multiple occasions. Its a lot easier to discredit an individual by linking him to those disliked by the entire community. Not saying Groy doesnt have a legitimate beef with MKF, but the ENTIRE MKAC hated MKF and JTF just connects the dots with whoever he disagrees with.


"The administration is right, I looked on the members list and you name is still there" - Correct Groy it was. And of course "The Admin" suggests you look right?? What a suprise. My password being changed wont delete my account. Come on. But what is important is that Groy actually checked and came to a conclusion based on his findings....... Which provkes JTF into using a feature on bulletin to ban my IP address from accessing MKAC forum. This has NOTHING to do with my user ID. And of course, the community goes and checks sees to my name and think "Atari is lying".




In one post, you can see 50% of JTF's motivation to lie, cheat, cover up everything that he does wrong instead of being a man and apologizing. Dude is a lunatic.



FYI - I have no reason to lie because I have nothing to gain or lose. Im not a conspirator and didnt plan anything anything with Maverick. vBulletin has multiple PM hacks mostly used for "security" reasons. vBulletin has ban "user ip address" hacks. Screen shots of vB logs back in 2006 proves nothing me.






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If anything just understand this harsh reality - EVERYTHING THAT HAS EVER GONE WRONG WITH THE USERS ON MKAC IS A DIRECT RESULT OF JTF'S DISHONESTY. Remember that. And the fact that he has yet to make amends for his actions is UNACCEPTABLE.

Chill out. It's really a simple matter. Three people from Xbox hang out here... The rest of us are tools (of course, you mean no disrespect).


-MKF would rather get lost in the general MK forum.

-Atari's bitterness has led him to lose nearly all respect and credibility with the community.

-Trax doesn't care about message boards at all.


I don't see such a big coincidence that you are the only ones here.

Well, this forum is usually dead with the exception of occassions like this or when people play MKA(which is hardly anymore at this point)

I post all over this site

As for those other posts, that Atari posted....I'll just say anyone that believes JTF's nonsense=idiot. Don't care who they are, because majority as you can see aren't too fond of him or think he's an odd, douche or shady person overall. Yet, JTF and his "pawns" call other people "weirdos" ha, ha now that's hilarious. All I'm going to say, later

Trax I dont follow anyone man I am where i want to be make sense??

NOBODY tells me what to do not even my mom,

me not being here means that I dont like it here its like you not being in the other site means you dont like it simple as that, your kool in my book but that doesnt mean Im gonna force you to be where I am. you can do whatever you want, you like it here, good for you I loved it till they messed up everything when they didnt treat me with respect. I deserved respect because I didnt have beef with anyone.

I dont talk about an specific MOD from here because im not a fucking lil girl complainning all the time. my silence means a lot man

Again I dont give a shit if the Admin is an asshole, I go to that site because I like it not because of the Admin,

if you dont mess with me Im ok, but as soon as you start giving me shit I will just dissapear like I did here,
I have emails froms mods from here begging me to come back but they just acted wrong to me thats why i dont give a fuck about them

I already did! I said STFU.
IM not a God Gerchap Im just simple Gerchap aka "Noel"a guy who treats everyone with respect thats why people loves me online and in real life
Good night

You guys have it completely twisted. I believe I've been very consistent in saying I really don't care where you people hang out. I sure as hell don't care where the next the dude hangs his balls in real life and not about to start that online. So Gerchap cut the crap on mother or anyone else telling you what to do and stop drinking your own 'kool aid' for one second about some shitty ass online love for you. It's somewhat irrelevant in this context.

Also, you contradict yourself a lot. On one part you don't care what the Admin is about the next you're screaming out that MKO mods are egotistical and sad for not playing MK. Just be consistent in your judgment. That's all!

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And Chaos, you're right even though I know you were sarcastic about your remark - I really couldn't give a monkey's if no one posts online. Maybe a year or two ago but not now.

Later folks

Ok, I got it.

That's what I said. You don't care about online message boards, so you're satisfied with the nothingness here. All well and good. Nobody's recruiting.

But just because you three guys on this site have a personal beef with the owner of another site doesn't excuse you all from disrespecting a lot of members in the community that you've known for a while.

Calling people "pawns" "puppets" and "tools" because they don't quite buy into certain conspiracy theories, is not justified. I don't care how convinced you are of something.

Show us some proof of something and we'll believe you.

But even if we don't (hypothetical); it's still completely off-base and disrespectful to assume (and accuse) that we don't have our own voices, motives, or decisions simply because we visit a site that's owned by somebody you personally don't like.

lol. No you wont. Because JTF said not to. Ask Groy. lol.

lol.

Yes I will. I promise. lol. Just provide.

The denial in this thread is rather amusing...

Provide evidence for that statement, MKF.

I need proofs!

Is that the best we got? The only three of you here are going to gang up and avoid?

No smart-ass here. Just provide. Don't speculate.

Ha, Ha Trax that was funny. : )

As for proof Chaos, well I'd say just ask the following people about JTF: PAL euro server of players that Trax knows, trgrant, MKDAN, Trax, MKF30, Mav, Dave, Atari, Check, V1ll , MKO mods that had to ban JTF countless times, among others I'm sure....but hey what do those people know right? All those people vs. JTF, hmmmm yeah...I can see how JTF is so right. Everyone else must be "crazy" even though there's been actual proof of PM's, threads removed, bans for no reason and other "odd elements" taken place on his site