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09/12/2008 08:26 AM (UTC)
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so those two sharing moves isn't as crazy as Jax throwing a spear.


Actually, that would be fairly appropriate.


Also, Mileena is in this game. Kitana and Mileena = same thing.


no man if your not a mileena fan you cant understand she isnt kitana nor the other way around, mileena is the first and only vilianess dont mean to piss you off but your wrong, peace.
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09/12/2008 08:28 AM (UTC)
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Chill728 Wrote:
DrCube Wrote:
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so those two sharing moves isn't as crazy as Jax throwing a spear.


Actually, that would be fairly appropriate.


Also, Mileena is in this game. Kitana and Mileena = same thing.


Whoa...Get ready for the flame later by angry Mileena fans.wink


Mileena's fans (both of them) have been flaming long before I got here.
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09/12/2008 08:37 AM (UTC)
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MNOPimpy Wrote:
DrCube Wrote:
Chill728 Wrote:
so those two sharing moves isn't as crazy as Jax throwing a spear.


Actually, that would be fairly appropriate.


Also, Mileena is in this game. Kitana and Mileena = same thing.


no man if your not a mileena fan you cant understand she isnt kitana nor the other way around, mileena is the first and only vilianess dont mean to piss you off but your wrong, peace.


Nice try Billy, but I saw the movie and I know that Sindel is the main villainess. Your Serbian-Jew double bluff ain't gonna work on me.

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09/12/2008 08:38 AM (UTC)
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DrCube Wrote:
Chill728 Wrote:
DrCube Wrote:
Chill728 Wrote:
so those two sharing moves isn't as crazy as Jax throwing a spear.


Actually, that would be fairly appropriate.


Also, Mileena is in this game. Kitana and Mileena = same thing.


Whoa...Get ready for the flame later by angry Mileena fans.wink


Mileena's fans (both of them) have been flaming long before I got here.


actually there is tons man, you have no idea once this hit the mainstream and ppl see that she isnt in it, my flamming will be nothing compared to theres, do a search and see how many mileena fansites there are let me help you there are TONS all i can say is watch the flames cause someones gonna get burned very soon lol furious
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09/12/2008 08:40 AM (UTC)
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DrCube Wrote:
MNOPimpy Wrote:
DrCube Wrote:
Chill728 Wrote:
so those two sharing moves isn't as crazy as Jax throwing a spear.


Actually, that would be fairly appropriate.


Also, Mileena is in this game. Kitana and Mileena = same thing.


no man if your not a mileena fan you cant understand she isnt kitana nor the other way around, mileena is the first and only vilianess dont mean to piss you off but your wrong, peace.


Nice try Billy, but I saw the movie and I know that Sindel is the main villainess. Your Serbian-Jew double bluff ain't gonna work on me.



lol im not jewish and the movies has nothing to do with it, mileena was in mk2 bro sindel wasnt brought to light till mk3 do your research, so that means she is the first villaness
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09/12/2008 08:47 AM (UTC)
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MNOPimpy Wrote:


all i can say is watch the flames cause someones gonna get burned very soon lol furious


But be careful not to burn your copies of Mileena's Playboy issue. Those could be worth something if you can get them unstuck.
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09/12/2008 08:55 AM (UTC)
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and the movies has nothing to do with it


Since the mediocre game franchise was based on the stellar blockbuster films, I'd argue that the movies have quite a lot to do with it. Good grief, maybe if you read something besides Wikipedia...

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09/12/2008 09:19 AM (UTC)
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Meh, fuck Kitana and Mileena. I like Mileena more of the two. But please. Generic femme fatale assassin archetypes. Oh except one has pointy teeth. That totally makes her different to all other instances of the exact same character in every other videogame ever.

Kano on the other hand, an Australian mercenary with a bionic laser shooting eyeball? Well every game has one of those. They need one to oppose the bionic arm wearing African American special forces agent which every game also has. What a waste of two good spots. They shoud've given those spots to more original characters, like two drunken kung fu masters who wear the exact same outfit in different colors.
MNOPimpy, i agree with every post you made. It's truly a sad day for Mileena fans.
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09/12/2008 01:32 PM (UTC)
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DrCube Wrote:
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and the movies has nothing to do with it


Since the mediocre game franchise was based on the stellar blockbuster films, I'd argue that the movies have quite a lot to do with it. Good grief, maybe if you read something besides Wikipedia...



Wow I pretty much know your trolling now.
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09/12/2008 01:40 PM (UTC)
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@ DrCube: Are you crazy? Every Mk fan knows that the games were not based on the films! the movies were secondary, the MK games came first. To use MK Annihilation as a reference is a slap in the face of the MK franchise. That movie has been practically shunned by just about every MK fan there is. The only MK game in which Sindel was the main female villain was MK3. Other than that Mileena has always dominated as MK's most bad ass, and most favored villainess.
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09/12/2008 02:12 PM (UTC)
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i'd say tanya is more of a villian. she seems way more capable and stable and a better villian and a more interesting, mysterious, complex characters. however mileena is old and apparently in MK old=best.
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09/12/2008 02:30 PM (UTC)
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While I do like Tanya, she has never been a complex, or well thought out character. She is basically just a traitor and coward. Someone who will serve anyone no matter how evil just so she can save her own ass. They have not explored anything beyond that part of her personality really.
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09/12/2008 03:33 PM (UTC)
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Here's my defense for the Mileena fans.

You really cannot say Mileena and Kitana are similar. Perhaps in their initial pallette-swapped days, they may have looked the same, but that's changed. And it goes beyond pointy teeth.

Mileena is endearing to us MK fans because she is a ruthless, jealous, ugly, and evil counterpart to Kitana, like Scorpion will always be to Sub-Zero (keep him a villain, Boon....). She's a genetic freak of nature, a flawed creation, and her entire existence was revealed to her to be one giant set-up. After Kitana joined the side of good, she lost her reason for being and decided to instead become better than the woman she was cloned from.

It's Solid Snake vs. Liquid Snake but with two deadly female assassins.

Kitana is currently living in the lap of luxury in Edenia with her loving mother, ruling over a world that loves her. Mileena is currently feared, hated, backstabbed, and forgotten, labeled as a degenerate creation and forced to reside in the pits of Outworld or the Netherworld. To her, she deserves better. She deserves everything Kitana has, and she's driven to have that.

That makes Mileena a far more compelling and dynamic character to follow than Kano, Baraka, or Liu Kang. They're one-shot, one-note heroes and villains, while Mileena actually has some DEPTH.

Concerning her status as an "icon", it is very well deserved. As some people rightly pointed out, she is the first villainess of the MK franchise, the "Scorpion" to Kitana's "Sub-Zero". While Kitana may have emerged as the more likeable heroine due to her beauty and fan attacks, Mileena is by far the more ruthless, driven, and complex one.

I'll be the first to admit, I'm sorely disappointed in the majority of the casting choices for this new game. I was angry when it was announced, disappointed when it was confirmed, and then rather apathetic about its release, hoping that a few of my prefered characters, such as Mileena, would be included.

It didn't happen. with the exception of Sub-Zero, who was a given, not a single one of my favorite characters made the cut. No Quan Chi, no Sareena, no Mileena, no Reptile, no Kenshi, no Li Mei, no Noob Saibot, no Smoke, no Hotaru, no Kung Lao.....

I mean, just look to the left at the website skins. Who do you see? There's Mileena's themed MKO skin. She's an icon, and she got passed over in favor of wooden characters like Kano, Jax, and blasted "Shazam". No offense Big Red Cheese fans, but would you rather have Billy Baston in the game.... or Mileena?

That's not much of a question at all.
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09/12/2008 04:28 PM (UTC)
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My two cents...

In my opinion, BOTH Kitana and Mileena should've been in this game. Not to say they always have to go hand-in-hand...because they don't. Kitana doesn't need Mileena and Mileena doesn't need Kitana, they simply complement one another and make each other more interesting. Both should've been in based on their own merits. Kitana is an icon, she's popular, and she's one of MK's more developed characters with a good story.
So is Mileena.

Some will say that Mileena isn't needed because we have Kitana, but that's a short-sighted argument. Obviously they're similar, but they are not the same. I'm a fan of both, but Kitana doesn't fill the void left by Mileena's absence...and I'm sure other Mileena fans feel the same way. If Mileena were in and Kitana left out, Kitana fans would feel the that way.
Even if they really are going to portray Kitana a villain (hopefully they won't), that doesn't solve the matter. Most likely, it'll only piss off both fanbases.

Design-wise Mileena has grown far beyond simply being the "purple Kitana." For better or worse, the MK team has decided Mileena is the character they're going to go hog wild on with "sexy" designs. And in doing that, they've given Mileena a fairly distcintive look that actually suits her character.
Take Mileena's outfit in Deception. NOTHING like Kitana. Even when people would take Mileena renders and change the colors to blue...it still didn't look like Kitana. It looked like Mileena wearing blue.

I would argue that Mileena is an icon of Mortal Kombat. She, now, has a distinctive look and I'm confident she is at least as well known as Baraka or Kung Lao. And let's face it, the only reason Kano is known by any non-MK fans is because of the movie. Mileena has also come to represent MK's "femme fatale," something that I think would be worth including in this game.

And I give points to icons who actually show some depth of character and have actual merit in terms of conception and execution. And Mileena succeeds there as well, IMO. We know why she is the way she is and why she does what she does...and we can also even kind of feel bad for her, despite her villainy. That's more effective than a one-note hairy thug with a metal eye.

Some will argue she can't be in because if Mileena was in, it would throw the character counterpart/parallel thing off balance, because if she was in someone would not have a DC match-up or something. To that I have to ask: who gives a shit? Do you really think that....THAT...should be a crucial factor in deciding who got in the game or not?

All in all, I am disappointed by Mileena's absence. But her spot wasn't "stolen" by Kitana. That, I place blame on guys like Kano, Jax, or Baraka. Kano's not an icon...he's just an old character who may or may not be well known outside the fanbase. And one may be able to argue that Jax and Baraka are reasonably iconic, but I think Mileena surpasses them.
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09/12/2008 05:25 PM (UTC)
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wow thanks XiahouDun84, and Garlador, you guys made my point and then some, it is a shame that she isnt in it, but im done crying over this cause as i said last night, this isnt cannon it's a fucking crossover game which in my eyes isnt MK the real mk8 will have mileena in all her nex gen glory and then the blood n gore will be worth the wait, I have said before and I will say this again, Boon you messed up, by adding kano and jax you sealed your fate, your crossover is now a reality and i wish you well with it but im afraid it's gonna be a flop because while some ppl will buy it they wont keep it like past games I have every MK game and am proud of it, but I will rent this game but untill you add mileena as a downloadable or hidden bitch you wont see one dime from me, mileena would of made a great addidtion to this game, hell she and catwoman would of had milk together lol but oh no you went and added 2 chumps who are iconic at all, in closing ill say this again LISTEN to your fanbase without us MK is nothing.

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09/12/2008 05:27 PM (UTC)
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MNOPimpy, i agree with every post you made. It's truly a sad day for Mileena fans.



Thanks you means alot that my bitch fits are being read and agreed with by alot of ppl, worship mileena cause she will dominate the "REAL" MK8
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09/12/2008 05:36 PM (UTC)
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@ DrCube


Hey, that's me!

Are you crazy?


I'm perfectly lucid. I'm not the one who's angry about a c-list character not being in a game.

Every Mk fan knows that the games were not based on the films! the movies were secondary, the MK games came first.


Again, Wikipedia has a lot to answer for.

To use MK Annihilation as a reference is a slap in the face of the MK franchise. That movie has been practically shunned by just about every MK fan there is.


I don't see why. Maybe Annihilation isn't quite as good as the first film, but without it we never would have had Jax, Baraka, or Cyrax. So I'm fine with it.

The only MK game in which Sindel was the main female villain was MK3.


Right, the one based directly based on the plot of the films.

Mileena has always dominated as MK's most bad ass, and most favored villainess.


Except for the fact that Mileena isn't popular at all, you're 100% correct.
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09/12/2008 05:37 PM (UTC)
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@ DrCube: Are you crazy? Every Mk fan knows that the games were not based on the films! the movies were secondary, the MK games came first. To use MK Annihilation as a reference is a slap in the face of the MK franchise. That movie has been practically shunned by just about every MK fan there is. The only MK game in which Sindel was the main female villain was MK3. Other than that Mileena has always dominated as MK's most bad ass, and most favored villainess.


Jack Burton agrees...

Not to knock you too badly, DrCube, the games predate the movies by a good four years. I think you may want to do a bit more research, but hey, that's just me.

Now that the Six Demon Bag is refilled, I think I'll go take a few shots out of it.

And THAT'S what Jack Burton has to say at this time.
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09/12/2008 05:55 PM (UTC)
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Yeah ok whatever Dr.Cube. I can see you're quite delusional. It's blatantly obvious you know absolutely nothing about the MK franchise, or the fan base of its characters. You're sitting there using Wikipedia as the source of your so called information, but seem to be forgetting that Wiki is a site that ANYONE can edit and add whatever they'd like too. Like I said, the second Mk movie is an abomination and should not be used in any debate. MK3 was not based on Mortal Kombat Annihilation. The movie was based on the game! get this through your head. And even then the film still did not follow the plot of the game, so your argument falls on deaf ears. Further more, Mileena is not popular? Yeah like I said you're delusional and you have been proven wrong by every single poster in this thread. Mileena's fanbase is stronger than ever.
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09/12/2008 06:11 PM (UTC)
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In hindsight, 80% of the posters here are acting like pathetic seniors with a starting Downs Syndrome...

On another note. I am somewhat pleased that the roster turned out the way it did. It is not a plastic-fav-fiesta, and it is definitely somewhat balanced. And thankfully not all characters have counterparts. Some have, some do not. And so far it is good.

Enjoy it.

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09/12/2008 08:41 PM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
In hindsight, 80% of the posters here are acting like pathetic seniors with a starting Downs Syndrome...

On another note. I am somewhat pleased that the roster turned out the way it did. It is not a plastic-fav-fiesta, and it is definitely somewhat balanced. And thankfully not all characters have counterparts. Some have, some do not. And so far it is good.

Enjoy it.



ok first off none of the mileena fans are bashing you guys so why are you coming in this thread bashing us? we have a right to express how we feel and for you guys to come in here and bash us isnt right, your the ones who will buy this game and cheez everyone online with your cheap ass moves, so i say to you knock yourself out, cause none of us GAS go noob someone elses thread and as it was stated before look to your left i see under site themes #1 Mileena like omg she isnt popular?? lol Noob, Subs,Baraka,Reptile, n Scorps there is your proof, so go leach on someone elses thread cause not 1 person in here was bashing you guys till you came in with your childish taunts and out of line replys, basically in a word GET A LIFE.
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09/12/2008 09:01 PM (UTC)
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MNOPimpy Wrote:
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Obviously Mileena and Kitana are two different characters but your comparison is kind of over-dramatic. Kitana and Mileena were Palette Swaps so those two sharing moves isn't as crazy as Jax throwing a spear. I admit that it is kind of lame and they should of thought of a better special move for Kitana, but I still think it's a bit extreme to be that upset over one special move.



with all due respect......says the person who prolly has his boy in and there moves arent recycled to someone else, and the sad part is I was so looking forward to using mileena and katwoman and joker but I will rent it but never buy it, at least i can beat the f*(k out of kitana now. now that being said in the future if she is an unlockable or dowloadable i will buy it, but not until then, only mileena,reptile and lao fans can understand why im upset, and can anyone tell me besides the point he was in mk1 how the hell is kano iconic? i understand jax is cause he was the first black guy and baraka is baraka nuff said, but kano? wow


Exactly, I don't get the hate over Jax, but like you said Kano should be the one people are complaining about. While Jax have slipped in likability for the past 6 years, he has remained popular and iconic. Kano has gone down in popularity, there aren't really many Kano fans around. I think the reson why Kano has gone down in popularity is due to MKD introducing a whole bunch of other black dragon members, to sum it up, Kabal stole the show,lol. Can someone tell me where this "Kitana's evil in this game" rumor came from? If so that explains the mask I guess. I don't like Kitana being evil, hopefully it has to do with the story, if it does, then its cool, but I just love goody goody Kitana. Sigh, poor Mileena, I guess Sonya will have to do as Catwoman's foe.
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09/12/2008 09:08 PM (UTC)
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Lol sersious and desperate ppl honestly, even though Johnny Cage might not be in the game doesnt mean im not going to buy it I hope they do have him as downloadable though and even other characters though I dont understand why people r saying they want quan chi or whatever this is a MK2-MK3 game well in the middle but anyways im still hoping n yes sometimes not many ppl r gonna get their wish come true so deal with it.
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09/12/2008 09:13 PM (UTC)
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Im sure all would be in favor of taking Kano and Jax out and replacing them with Mileena and Kung Lao
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