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sonicherosfan1
10/26/2007 05:54 PM (UTC)
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To the one user i agree with.

We have been promised alot before MKA and never got any of that.There are so many games we could pick at and say,"hey it was supposed to have like 100 different things but it never did"and you know what i hate reading has an excuse.Is when they tell us they didnt have enough time.Well midway or the MK team,look at every other video game company that makes fighting games and tell me why they deliver more then you on their promises?Look at namco,team ninja,capcom even.So don't act like we are trash midway,we aren't stupid has you think we are.I am greatful for alot of mortal kombat that had alot to do with my childhood and whatnot.Honestly,after UMK3 or mk4 era which counts MKMSZ there hasn't been to much to be excited for from midway.If you ask me,I still think MKA should have been the last of the series and there shouldn't ever be a MK8 or whatever it ends up being called.

So yea we have been lied to and cheated from midway maybe its time for MK to go somewhere else but thats just me.I dunno about you guys but i am more excited about the mk3 movie then the mk8 game but all lies man all freaken lies lol..i got nothing lmao
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Asesino
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10/26/2007 06:52 PM (UTC)
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lol

Do you all think that MK TEAM gives a shit about all that whineing ?This q is rhetorical.
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WaveMotionFist9
10/26/2007 06:56 PM (UTC)
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called it
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MyQueenSindel
10/26/2007 07:09 PM (UTC)
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Pretty pathetic.
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10/26/2007 07:59 PM (UTC)
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Asesino Wrote:
lol

Do you all think that MK TEAM gives a shit about all that whineing ?This q is rhetorical.


They better, if they want to keep their fanbase. It was our "whining" that got Khameleon in the Wii version of the game, and our "whining" that got us the bios that we did get. Still, it's clear that they're lazy and are more interested in making a quick buck than satisfying their fans, so I predict a massive drop in sales for the next game, especially if it IS a vs. game or a crappy continuation of Armageddon with ALL THE LOOSE ENDS STILL DANGLING. They're going the way of Sonic, now, and frankly, I'd rather not play another crappy MK game after this travesty.
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Iori9
10/26/2007 08:15 PM (UTC)
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Who gives a crap? Wait for MK8 then we can complain.
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massdeath
10/26/2007 08:28 PM (UTC)
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Bullshit. Plan and simple. The usual Midway bullshit to be more specific.

If anyone wants to see a video game company take the time to treat their fans right, look no further than Nintendo. Check out www.smashbros.com EVERYDAY they update the site with characters, moves, stages, etc. All to keep the fans interested and informed. Midway should take note.

But then again...MK8 will probably just be another half-assed effort like every MK game (aside from maybe MK:D) was.

Sad and patehtic. I'm not sure I care much anymore...
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mkflegend
10/26/2007 09:51 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
We have been promised, screwed, lied to, screwed again with more empty promises while being lied to at the same time for so long, that this really doesn’t feel like a surprise, but it’s still a huge disappointment.

This game was supposed to be the final epic showdown story wise: We were promised finality, conclusion, tying up loose ends, etc etc etc, but we didn’t get any of that, well, at least for more then half of the characters of MKA...there is a huge story, a very interesting and complex one, and sadly, they didn’t deliver the final product they told us they would. MKA has/had so much potential story wise, at first it smelled ridiculous, but with the delivery of the online bios and how some of them tied to Konquest, wow, it felt great! But:

They lied again.

MKA was a mess in many many many huge ways, starting with the fact that they didn’t deliver a proper product with the well developed story/bios they promised, and ending with the fact that it seems they don’t care anymore, lying yet again that we would get the finality they promised from the very beginning.

How horrible and annoying. IT SUCKS!

Its almost like none of the other characters even matter now. Only those who got a decent/awesome bio and a part in Konquest. The rest are very unlucky.

Its like they aren’t even in the game, even if they have endings, because like we all know, almost all the endings of MKA were insulting
, and even if there weren’t any bios, there just isn’t an excuse for such horrible writings, specially considering this was “the game that would end all”.

This sucks horribly.

So many characters, not one bio in the game, and only a few official bios online.....they screwed MKA in many ways, and by doing so, they screwed MK in general as well.

It might not be the end of the world, but this is definitely a huge disappointment, though like many, I'm not surprised...and people, that’s not good...at all. Are we really this used to all of these stuff?

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You know as soon as I saw this update, I said to myself so...let's see how many "ungrateful" fans will bitch today, of course I was right...but it's not as bad as I thought the bashing would be.

Listen, this is slightly disappointing but "not the end of the world" would you rather Midway told the MK team to concentrate on a very good game in MK8 or concentrate on bios? Think people....

As subzer0the7th said, most likely it's Midway telling the MK team what to do. REMEMBER, MK team is NOT the head of things. They only make the games, they don't call the shotswink

Besides, I'm sure they'll ummm explain what happened in MK8's storyline...so I'm realy not too concerned.tongue


Yeah, and it doesn’t come as a surprise that you are, yet again, defending Mk, and the team, etc. for their mistakes.

Before saying "ungrateful", please, think before you post, or at least elaborate. Really MKF, I have nothing against you, I always tell you this because I even defended you back in the old days, but you never seize to "amaze" me with the way you defend Mk and close your ears and eyes beyond everything just to ignore the facts. In these moments I understand what all the stupid fuzz was about in the past...when you got into your “fights” with others concerning the team and mk in general.


Ok, you know what I was almost hoping someone would address me so I'll address this eagerly. First of all those people I got into "fights" with are now banned, what does that tell you? People that come here just to "rip" MK not for nothing is utterly retarded when the site is an ummm Mortal Kombat site to begin with. I'm here for MK, because I enjoy it. NOT to bash it...

Will I criticize or say here and there I'm a bit disappointed with something? yes I will and make suggestions of actual USEFUL improvements MK should make, such as gameplay, new online modes, better online play etc as oppose to say someones bio that should be longer or someones alternate costume...these things are trivial and you must realize MOST fans that play MK want it for a fighting game. A lot don't care about "just storyline" or costumes...I care but I'm happy with what I got, I didn't expect the bios to be as deep as they were IMO but I know to you they're "half assed" or sub-par...


Well, what can I say? I'm am an actual LOYAL and true MK fan unlike some others in here that are "front runners" and only like the series when they give them what THEY want. Fuck that...I stick with MK thru the ups and the downs, NOT just the ups...I hate fans like that and always will. The point of being a fan of something, team, person or game is to support them/it during the ups and downs, enough said.

Even if Midway/MK team DID give us everyones bio there's always someone to bitch about it or say "not good enough" like you did with some of the bios well let me ask you something man, do you think you can honestly do a better job? Let's see the fans like you write and come up with a better then what we already have, please do. Because I seriously doubt no offense that you can write something or anyone else on here that "hates the MK bios" then John Vogel.

I seriously doubt anyone here that "rips MK and midway" all the time saying OMG, once again a let down, blah, blah...wouldn't be able to write anything the least bit creative, yet are very demanding about it. Easy to judge someones elses writing yet most likely wouldn't be able to come with anything good themselves I'd bet.

First of all, I DON'T ignore facts, what some fans call "facts" are indeed nothing more but their own opinion ok. That's not fact, that's opinion there's a fact for ya. Also, I see the ignorance of gameplay views on here as well it makes me sick but I won't even go there because unless you play MK at a higher level or spend more then a few weeks/days with each game understanding the fundamentals, properties and such, a player won't understand fully unless he does one of the above. The 3D MK's might not be "perfect" but they're FAR from what a lot of fans say how bad they are.

Second, I know what the MK team told us, I know everything about MK. You must realize that I know every MK game isn't perfect, no game is however and I've been following this series before most on here ok. I never said on here "MK is perfect" there are "no flaws" that's what you're saying I've said. I never said that so please stop saying I have. I just said I'm a big fan of the series and I hope MK does get better like most games but I'll enjoy it anyway.

I know there's some things to be answered and things some fans want but you know what? MK team could put out a near to perfect game and have actually, yet always someone bitching about it.

Example, most here aren't even aware that UMK3 is factually the best MK game gameplay wise yet some people say well MKD or MK:DA or MK 2....no, it's UMK3. Not only do I follow the series but I also play all at high level, I'm more then aware of what needs to be fixed and not.wink Here's another fact for you, balance wise and gameplay wise best 3D MK is MK:DA. MK:A though is a lot better then MKD easily since MKD is just an offensive fest, MKA you have the wake up and parry system to help out(well when used correctly anyway)

Another thing that I've noticed, no offense but I've seen people like you dude post about the most trivial things such as "someones bio not good enough" yet others will say it's awesome....come on? What the hell do you want already?

If every fan got what they wanted the storyline would be extremely fucked up and beyond, you do know that right?..who wants this guy to live, that guy to die etc. ha, ha...right

Or say someones "costume" not good enough. Are you kidding me? Try focusing on the important things for a change instead of someones bio not being long enough or short enough or good enough. MK still EASILY has the best storyline out of any other fighting game. Just read it for yourself and if you can't see that then you're just blind, what can I say?

I suggest you try to be more openminded and try to look at things from the MK teams point of view, if you have Midway over your shoulders telling you "your job is to do this, not that" and they say nahh I think I'll do what I want because the bios aren't finished...guess what? You won't have ANY MK because that's a good way to lose your job all together...

I'm sure Vogel wants to finish up the bios, but if he's told by his superiors "work on MK8 bios" to answer MKA's conclusion, then what do you expect him and the MK team to do?

Think about that.



Iori9 Wrote:
Who gives a crap? Wait for MK8 then we can complain.
Exactly...*claps hands*
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10/26/2007 10:09 PM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
Will I criticize or say here and there I'm a bit disappointed with something? yes I will and make suggestions of actual USEFUL improvements MK should make, such as gameplay, new online modes, better online play etc as oppose to say someones bio that should be longer or someones alternate costume...these things are trivial and you must realize MOST fans that play MK want it for a fighting game. A lot don't care about "just storyline" or costumes...I care but I'm happy with what I got, I didn't expect the bios to be as deep as they were IMO but I know to you they're "half assed" or sub-par...





Criticism is good. That's how users address what they like and don't like about a game to the mk team. Through criticism, the Mk team learn (or are suppose to learn) from their flaws and not repeat that error. And besides, alot of ppl look forward to the Mk storyline since that's the only thing that has been consistently decent through out the mk series. The gamplay in recent Mk games has been extremely weak, but hopefully that will be resolved in Mk8.


You say:

"I'm am an actual LOYAL and true MK fan unlike some others in here that are "front runners" and only like the series when they give them what THEY want. Fuck that...I stick with MK thru the ups and the downs, NOT just the ups...I hate fans like that and always will. The point of being a fan of something, team, person or game is to support them/it during the ups and downs, enough said."

this makes you sound like a fanboy. or an individual who remains loyal to their particular obsession, rejecting any factors that differ from their point of view.

Ppl look down on fanboys. You better watch it.
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10/26/2007 10:27 PM (UTC)
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If I may interrupt the bickering, I'd just like to point out that MK's story was never fantastic. You may now continue with the two foot long quote chain responses.
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kingjolly
10/26/2007 10:33 PM (UTC)
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Actually, I have to agree. The Mk storyline has never been fantastic in my opinion, but mk fans seem to think it's the best thing since sliced bread for some reason.


The storyline from mk1-3 we're the best for me. Things seriously went downhill from there.

I honestly dont think the current convuluted storyline of mk can be saved. Thus mk8 should re-invent and disregard previous storylines from mk games.
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outworld222
10/26/2007 10:58 PM (UTC)
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My personal opinion is I'm glad the bios stopped. It is now time to put full faith and effort into MK8.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the bios, however, there needs to be more time allocated towards MK8.
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Armitage
10/26/2007 11:42 PM (UTC)
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At least with MK8 killing off most of the roster (hopefully permanently), it means MK can have a whole new start cannon-wise. The only character I hope doesn't die, aside from those who obviously won't, is Hotaru. The samurai / insect exoskeleton design looks kick-ass. smile
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HELLSCORPION2
10/26/2007 11:43 PM (UTC)
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I'm guessing they stopped them because they were to contradictory to eachother and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon itself.tongue
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10/26/2007 11:47 PM (UTC)
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HELLSCORPION2 Wrote:
I'm guessing they stopped them because they were to contradictory to eachother and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon itself.tongue


Except that the bios didnt contridict anything. You cant really contridict if you didnt have much of a story to begin with.
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mkflegend
10/26/2007 11:58 PM (UTC)
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kingjolly Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
Will I criticize or say here and there I'm a bit disappointed with something? yes I will and make suggestions of actual USEFUL improvements MK should make, such as gameplay, new online modes, better online play etc as oppose to say someones bio that should be longer or someones alternate costume...these things are trivial and you must realize MOST fans that play MK want it for a fighting game. A lot don't care about "just storyline" or costumes...I care but I'm happy with what I got, I didn't expect the bios to be as deep as they were IMO but I know to you they're "half assed" or sub-par...





Criticism is good. That's how users address what they like and don't like about a game to the mk team. Through criticism, the Mk team learn (or are suppose to learn) from their flaws and not repeat that error. And besides, alot of ppl look forward to the Mk storyline since that's the only thing that has been consistently decent through out the mk series. The gamplay in recent Mk games has been extremely weak, but hopefully that will be resolved in Mk8.


You say:

"I'm am an actual LOYAL and true MK fan unlike some others in here that are "front runners" and only like the series when they give them what THEY want. Fuck that...I stick with MK thru the ups and the downs, NOT just the ups...I hate fans like that and always will. The point of being a fan of something, team, person or game is to support them/it during the ups and downs, enough said."

this makes you sound like a fanboy. or an individual who remains loyal to their particular obsession, rejecting any factors that differ from their point of view.

Ppl look down on fanboys. You better watch it.


I am an MK fan, yes I'm not denying this but my point is. Part of being an authentic" true MK fan is sticking with it thru the ups and downs. Not just the ups or when most people sway the way the wind's blowing...

But you see, ignorant people will say" you're a fan boy" whatever you like can do no wrong.

That's not what I'm saying so please try to understand where I'm going with this. I said clear as day I'll criticise(but in a mature fashion) instead of posting something like " Midway sucks ass, once again let down" with no facts or reasonable explanation to back that up. If Midway/MK honestly let "so many fans" down as some say KJ, do you really think MK would still exist to this day? No way. Think of it like this King Jolly, since I'm a sports fan as well. I love the Yankees, some people hate em. Now, if you're a fan of the Yankees and become a Met fan when the Yankees are doing badly..that's not a true Yankee fan, that's a fake fanatic/poser/fair weather fan....I just laugh at people like that because they have no clear view of what a fanatic is. A true Yankee fan, such as myself for example will root for them regardless if they have a shitty year or a great one. Another example of this is this man, example some ignorant Yankee fans say A-rod shouldn't come back, he can't handle the pressure yet that's bs. Why? well, for one most Yankee fans this year FORGET that he was the key reason why they even made it to the playoffs....he's the MVP and won 7 games alone by himself with walk off homers...they got in as the wild card(meaning the team with the best second place record in the league out of all the divisions, and was 2 out of first place. I rest my case. MK won't be dead for a while.

As long as the fans/or fighting enthusiasts keep buying the games Midway/MK team will continue to make them.

If MK was soo hated and soo bad we wouldn't have gotten MK:DA after a 5 year absense since MK 4......

Where ever there's a negative fanbase, there's also a positive one. That's the way I see it for any game really, but seriously...these bios should not be Midway's # 1 objective, don't care what anyone says at this point..the story will go on, it's still good for a fighting game and that's what counts. I'm positive MK 8 will address what happened after MKA and before MK8 obviously...

As for the story was never "stellar" well that argument can be said about most video games stories except for a select few, but come on. You'd be lying to yourself if you honestly believe MK's story isn't superior to other fighting games at least.

No story to me is "perfect" but MK's does have a very appealing and interesting story easily if you ask me, when compared to SF or Tekken....how many video game stories are "fantastic"?confused like none, they're either good or bad I never heard of a "fantastic" storyline for a game. That's a bit of a strong word if you think about it, don't ya think?
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titanwarrior
10/27/2007 12:10 AM (UTC)
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sigh.....

fuck you mk team!
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Asesino
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10/27/2007 01:48 AM (UTC)
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I only wanted to see Chameleon's bio.But I know I'll se him in MK8 so NP.
booN you betta include him.
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fedegita
10/27/2007 03:14 AM (UTC)
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I wish I had a 100 million dollars. The I'd try and buy the MK rights from boon and let Jax007, Bleed, Chrome, Aculeus, etc all work on it.

lol @ MKF's posts. I know you don't really mean all those things you say, you're just trying to piss everyone off deliberately tongue you're a funny guy!
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10/27/2007 10:27 AM (UTC)
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What the hell man ... i have been reading for soo long trying to understand the fuck up in the storylines and you hit us with this....i put like 20 ppl onto mk and the storyline and you hit me with this...dan ...if you have enough programmers and designers maybe there iseas about the characters should be posted ...i mean the styles from mkda are different (hint) maybe the idea of thier history can be too why not ? dont give up ! you have alot of fans ! don't let us down ....be creative ok !!! mk LOVE Hemagobinconfused
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10/27/2007 10:51 AM (UTC)
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wow , when i tried to post a new comment well, you already know...you have members ready to step up to the plate if whoever isn't doing so.you have Bios that need to be done...i hope you can spare time for us that money has given you ....if i didn't say it as a real fan,someone else would have...i love mkconfused
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10/27/2007 11:30 AM (UTC)
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At the risk of being banned for advertising, I have started an official thread for making the rest of the MKA bios... it's hopefully still on the first page of the MKA forums... however I also understand that the mods who declared my thread the official one also have the right to eliminate it along with me from the forums...

That being said if anyone's interested in helping me make the rest of the bios, feel free to take a look at my thread
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10/27/2007 02:24 PM (UTC)
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I never really cared for the bios, just go on with MK8, I don't care at all about the bios, really the game itself.
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10/27/2007 03:58 PM (UTC)
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fedegita Wrote:
I wish I had a 100 million dollars. The I'd try and buy the MK rights from boon and let Jax007, Bleed, Chrome, Aculeus, etc all work on it.

lol @ MKF's posts. I know you don't really mean all those things you say, you're just trying to piss everyone off deliberately tongue you're a funny guy!


Sure dude, just like you guys are joking all the time : )


Nahhh, I'd rather have Bleed, MINION, myself and Aculeus work on MK hehe. From my point of view. Chrome would be good with certain characters from what I've seen of his concept posts.

Jax007 I have no idea who that dude is. I would love to have a few characters in charge in though. But I'd also want to make up new modeswink
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sonicherosfan1
10/27/2007 05:08 PM (UTC)
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You know what though,you never know.
Win the lotto thats worth 40-50 million and Midway just might sell you the rights for 5-10million.I could honestly see that happening to.Hell,buy mortalkombat.com from threshold,god knows money is an issue with those people.Or try buying most of the stock of midway and there ya go,you could control the company.
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