why discuss a game that we know basically nothing at all about? Wait till midway speaks then we have something to talk about.

I hear you Bobby! However, we can start talking about the little things we know about it i.e. Unreal engine and stuff like that. Are there any fight games out there utilizing unreal engine? Stuff like that.

But on your original point, I think we're close to an announcement from Midway. Well, I hope so!

Apparently a lot of guys on here need to get off this board and check out the news once in a while, although I know trax is usually up to par most of the time but everyone else on here...

Let's just say the that MK8 latest rumor was that it might be a crossover vs. DC comics. That's right, MK vs. DC. Now this "rumor" news pissed off most MK fans but some didn't mind the idea if it's 2D.

Marvel vs. Capcom worked, even though that game is broken...it's still fun.

Let's just say that rumor a month or two when I posted it on here from that link that MK MIGHT be a crossover vs. KI, SF or something?

The latest one was MK vs. DC possibly....there's no confirmation from either side confirming this, nor is there any not confirming it.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if they did it right but my biggest concerns are as most fans is the storyline, darkness, M rating with violence etc. I'm pretty certain DC won't want to see Superman or Batman's head getting ripped off by Sub-Zero or Flash fried by Raiden... lol

It's an interesting idea but I don't think it would happen.

I made a poll elsewhere about this on a few other sites, most people feel they should leave MK alone just be MK8, no crossovers with KI, DC, SF or anyone..

Alright ...lets think...A crossover in 2d with unreal engine?

No way that makes sense. It will be a 3d fighter most like what is out now with other fighters. I like the idea of campaign being a mmorpg or whatever.

I universe with all mk fighters in one area in real time. But still have a one on one arena to fight others all over the world.

"Hey meet me in neatherealm at 2 am so our clans can fight each other."

That would be tight.

Having never been into 3d fighting games other than s.f. and K.I. It would be tough for me to get into a 2d MK.

With batman,, superman, ect...forget it...lame!

I was about to point that out to MKF. Why would Boon be talking up unreal engine if the next installment is going to be some 2d garbage. I would hate to see that happen. I want to see what unreal engine is capable of. I don't wanna see another MK/SF v DC or Capcom. I want to see MK and MK alone.

Trax

One thing that chaps my ass is what the fuck does Boon mean by MK8 will have an unreal fighting engine? What is an unreal fighting engine?

Have you ever heard of Unreal Tournament 2004? That game was based on unreal engine. If not, you must have definitely heard of Gears of War. Unreal engine is basically a framework for next generation games.
Unreal Engine Technology
Unreal engine enables you to efficiently build 3d games with high AI and physics. If utilized for MK8 then we can expect a less broken game because they (Midway) would use real life physics when designing the game to make it feel more coherent.

Check out that link.

Trax

good info trax!

its the engine used to create the game, midway paid 750,000 for the right to use this engine.

ummm did we forgot that it could be a mmorpg??? this was brough up earlier also, and could resemble there LOTR online game for pc.

Yeah Red, I think MEsoFLY mentioned that earlier.

But my question is this; are they (Midway) ready for MMORPG? I think they should focus on creating a game that would rival other fight games e.g. DOA4, Tekken etc, rather than going into an unfamaliar territory of role player games.

Trax

mmorpg - i wouldnt buy it

mk vs dc - i would be upset but id get it

mk8 by itself - id buy it

mk vs sf - i would love to play this aslong as it deadly and dark and boon sayd the game was going to be even darker .

2d fighting game , if its a mini game instead of racing or puzzle , why not ? but please boon not mk8 lol .



have you guys thought of this ?

instead of having our online mini games as racing , why not a new 2d fighing game were sareena taven would be selectable ?

That's the point of a rumor man, if they did this using the UR engine DC vs. MK do you know how odd that would be? With no fatalities, no violence, no blood..etc due to DC characters being in there.

That's why I said, most people who were for this would want a 2D engine to make it simplier but I don't think this will happen anyway.

Just a rumor guys...

That's right...you never played MK 2D huh? Man you missed out, but to each his own man. You were one of those guys that got into it in the 3D MK era.

You enjoy the 3D MK's more correct?

The idea of MK as mmorpg Krazy said would be ultra lame...I'd rather have any crossover on any engine before MK went rpg...they're boring, lame and have no action as far as I'm concerned...

MK is MK, not WOW-MK....

If they want to make a side game 2D adventure again like Sub-Zero Mythologies, only with another character hell yeah I'd be for that. MK:SM and MKM Sub-Zero rocked. MK:SF wasn't that great though...

BTW, on that UR engine thing, Midway also has the rights to UR now since they publish them and already got involved in the UR series by putting Raiden into Unreal Championship as a locked character.

Most likely though, this is just a huge rumor like the last time with MK vs. SF, KI whatever...

The crossover rumors with MK vs. SF or MK vs. KI have been going on for years now...

I've had the same idea as Bone for a while concerning the 2-D fighter. If they made MK8 a 2-D (which will never, ever happen) it would be the stupidest fucking move in the history of consciousness. But adding a 2-D element as a MINI-game or porting one or all of the 2-D MK's with online-capabilities, would be very cool.

I like how Bone formatted his post, so I'll copy it...

-If MK8 is a 2-D fighter; I probably won't buy it.

-If MK8 is a cross-over (with ANYBODY); I won't be happy, but I'm sure I'll get it.

-If MK8 is a MMORPG only in the aspect of "Konquest" or whatever; That's ok. As long as at least the OPTION to have the normal core-fighting without the MMORPG exists. I'd still get it either way, though.

I agree with you on the RPG if it's a Konquest like mode, otherwise hell no. It should only be like that if it's similar to MKA's konquest or MK:SM or MKMSub-Zero IMO.

Agreed Chaos!

hmmm - I'll wait till all details of this game are released then discuss those because when it all comes out most of us will be excited, dissapointed, pissed, let down, happy, etc.

I'll wait till then.
I'll say this - This is the first time in a while MK hasn't excited me in a while so I'm just hoping it excites me.

I just can't picture a FIGHTING game with an unreal engine. Only games that I've seen with unreal technology, like you said, Unreal Tournament, Gears of War. Helloooooo!!! Those are first/third person shooters people. Now you're talking about making a fighting game with that? So what now? Will the characters of MK8 be able to move freely across a map while fighting? That's a bit bizarre if you ask me.

I don't think it's bizarre. Part of the problem with current MK 3d engine is the limitation of physics. So if you think about, if we have UR engine, it at least eliminates Midway using engine limitation as an excuse. UR engine is just to make 3d environment more real. Try to think of it from that angle. It's not so much about FPS.

----------------

I would definitely go with everything Bone said and fuck going back to 2D. I WILL NOT BE BUYING A COPY, if that happens!

Trax

Well, the only information we have about MK8 so far is that it will use the UnrealTournament engine. The problem with that is that UT is a FPS engine while MK is a fighting game. I don't know enough about developing videogames from an existing engine to make an assessment, but I don't have a good feeling about it at this point.

Also, having in mind Midway's past history I am skeptical about MK8. One thing that's encouraging is that they are starting from scratch this time. Historically, with the exception of MK4, every time they have started from scratch they have produced some of the best MK games. It's usually in the 2nd or 3rd iteration of a certain game engine that they churn out the crappiest games, for example UMK3 and MKA which, in my opinion, were some of the worst MK games. On other hand, MK1, MK3, and MKDA, all first generation games, were and still are some of the best games in the series.

UMK3 FTR is one of their best MK games balance wise but everyone is entitled to their opinion, MK:DA is the best 3D one balance wise.

But aside from that, what a lot of people in general don't realize is that yes they're using the UR engine, that doesn't mean that it HAS to work like an FPS..it's possible as I've read online more into this UR engine gig to alter the kind of game, yet still have the same engine.

Example, Gears Of War and UR both have that epic platform but are different games entirely.

Why would it not be possible with a fighting game?

Personally, I'd like to see more use of nice engines used in different genres.

Although obviously, it won't be a sports game or racing.

Aren't all of the 2-D MK's more balanced than 3-D? I mean, aside from special moves, the characters are all the same, right?

And how do you know MK:DA is the most balanced of the 3-D games? It's also the one that nobody has played online. I bet that has something to do with it seeming more legit than the others.

You've raised a valid point Choas. Saying MK-DA is the most balanced is because it's never been really tested to the extremes. Playing these games online changes everything. So it's really hard to say MK-DA is more balanced than MKD or MKA.

On Raiden's comment on UR engine... I'm with MKF in that UR engine may turn out to be the best thing to ever happen to MK because it gives them a different approach.

Trax

So MK8 will probably be something like DBZ Budokai: Tenkaichi? Just take out the flying part.

2D IMO from what I've played is easier and more balanced then 2D/3D or 3D....VF and Tekken are exceptions because they've always been 3D...MK, SF etc went from 2D to 3D.

It's the most balanced 3D MK game because it is, MK:DA that is. Less infinites then MKD and MKA, characters are more balanced and throws are blockable like the older 2D MK's. That's why. Ohh yeah and the side stepping is a hell of a lot better, faster and smoother in MK:DA compared to MKD and MKA. Check also agreed with this in a recent convo we had on another site. In fact here chaos, the link to a great guide on MK:DA compared to the other two you'll see for yourself why MK:DA is factually the most balanced 3D MK thus far.

http://www.ultimatemk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2436


I wouldn't say it's a game nobody has played, perhaps on here maybe but I've played it tons and so have these guys, check I know has played it a lot as well.

Check it out.