Avatar
RazorsEdge701
08/23/2013 04:04 AM (UTC)
0
Kabal20 Wrote:
the game ins't shipping with a story mode.


What exactly does "isn't shipping with" mean in this instance, are they saying there eventually will BE a story mode at a later date?

Because I wasn't expecting one to even exist, so that actually seems like positive news from that perspective.
Avatar
SmokeNc-017
Avatar
About Me
art by fear-sAs
08/23/2013 04:09 AM (UTC)
0
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Kabal20 Wrote:
the game ins't shipping with a story mode.


What exactly does "isn't shipping with" mean in this instance, are they saying there eventually will BE a story mode at a later date?

Because I wasn't expecting one to even exist, so that actually seems like positive news from that perspective.

It's coming later with the last 2 characters in the Season 1 pack.
Avatar
RazorsEdge701
08/23/2013 06:32 AM (UTC)
0
So there will be a story mode, but only the first 8 can even be in it, on account of, y'know, the rest of the roster doesn't even exist yet?

That seems kinda dumb.
I mean...I guess the only characters in the KI universe that were really relevant to the "main plot" were Orchid, Fulgore, maybe Jago? So as long as you have those few you're doing okay, I suppose...but like...what can you do with 8 fighting game characters when the series is about an evil corporation?
Is there even going to be a boss character?
Will the cutscenes have business suit dude/mad scientist NPCs? Because I rather doubt they have time to make models for that shit considering "nothing is done yet, release it later as DLC!" is the whole game in a nutshell.
Avatar
RedSumac
08/23/2013 11:06 AM (UTC)
0
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
So there will be a story mode, but only the first 8 can even be in it, on account of, y'know, the rest of the roster doesn't even exist yet?

That seems kinda dumb.

I mean...I guess the only characters in the KI universe that were really relevant to the "main plot" were Orchid, Fulgore, maybe Jago? So as long as you have those few you're doing okay, I suppose...but like...what can you do with 8 fighting game characters when the series is about an evil corporation?

Is there even going to be a boss character?

Will the cutscenes have business suit dude/mad scientist NPCs? Because I rather doubt they have time to make models for that shit considering "nothing is done yet, release it later as DLC!" is the whole game in a nutshell.

I bet "story mode" will amount to renders with text. I am more interested how do they plan to make story without actual boss. Unless one 8 characters will be the boss. There are rumors that it can be "Shadow Jago".

Technically less characters in the story - the better you can make it. More development time for each, but giving what is going on with this game - I don't see nothing good happening.
Avatar
RedSumac
08/23/2013 11:11 AM (UTC)
0
Please, remove it.
Avatar
KungLaodoesntsuck
08/23/2013 02:14 PM (UTC)
0
Yeah Story Mode is just another word for Arcade Mode endings.
Avatar
Kabal20
Avatar
About Me

XBL: kabal31082, PSN: Kabal31082
Nintendo Id: kabal82, 3ds friend code: 2595-3252-2624

08/23/2013 03:37 PM (UTC)
0
Here is Maxi's reaction to the pricing: Maxi on KI pricing.

He makes some valid points. I think a lot of us are just afraid of MS pulling the plug on the game before Round 2. Also Maxi has been speaking with the DH and probably knows more about the game than what is being said in other media. I actually had no idea the game has been in development for less than 10 months. I mean MK9 and Injustice had at least a 2 year development cycle.
Avatar
KungLaodoesntsuck
08/23/2013 03:42 PM (UTC)
0
Not even in dev for a full year?

Yup definitely pull back launch now. The fuck were they even thinking? Good games take time and shouldn't be rushed. Microsoft will be the death of this game with it's incessant push to make this game a launch title when really it shouldn't be.
Avatar
RedSumac
08/23/2013 04:03 PM (UTC)
0
It seems situation with KI will develop like this: on start it will be shit, plagued with technical and balance problems, but with the time it will be gradually improved. But then its reputation would be ruined already.

As of now, I am afraid, if miracle will not occur, nothing will save new KI from being a disaster. The question only: how much of a disaster it will be.
Avatar
SmokeNc-017
Avatar
About Me
art by fear-sAs
08/23/2013 05:26 PM (UTC)
0
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
So there will be a story mode, but only the first 8 can even be in it, on account of, y'know, the rest of the roster doesn't even exist yet?

That seems kinda dumb.

I mean...I guess the only characters in the KI universe that were really relevant to the "main plot" were Orchid, Fulgore, maybe Jago? So as long as you have those few you're doing okay, I suppose...but like...what can you do with 8 fighting game characters when the series is about an evil corporation?

Is there even going to be a boss character?

Will the cutscenes have business suit dude/mad scientist NPCs? Because I rather doubt they have time to make models for that shit considering "nothing is done yet, release it later as DLC!" is the whole game in a nutshell.


It's certainly a risky move for a fighting game, But if they really are building this as a platform now, maybe as a result of a rushed schedule, than I've moved away from the traditional fighting game model and started thinking of it as the League of Legends/Dota model where the base game can always be the same and more can always be added on.

As for a story mode, I think it's supposed to revolve around Jago. But, can we all be honest for ourselves? Does anybody really care what the story is outside of the influences for the character designs we've seen so far? Would that really be the selling point of the game? Or will the game mechanics rise up to the surface like they do in every other fighting game? I really want to know an answer to that. Who here really gives a flying rat's ass about the KI story and is making that their selling point?
Avatar
KungLaodoesntsuck
08/23/2013 05:43 PM (UTC)
0
Hardcore fans of KI would like to see some continuation of the story. Killer Instinct actually has a decent story. It'd be a shame to not even have text endings with renders. That's the LEAST they could do. Why put all this effort into the character appearances which are inspired by their story, if they don't care about the story?
Avatar
SmokeNc-017
Avatar
About Me
art by fear-sAs
08/23/2013 05:55 PM (UTC)
0
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Hardcore fans of KI would like to see some continuation of the story. Killer Instinct actually has a decent story. It'd be a shame to not even have text endings with renders. That's the LEAST they could do.

The over arching story of KI is pretty awful, but I think it's meant to be since the series was created to rip off one cliche after another from movies and comics, and the games design was a frankenstein's monster of other fighting game mechanics stitched together in the KI package.

Yes, there are a few character moments that are worth exploring that the guys at Double Helix have brought up. Jago's crisis of faith and identity, Saberwulf's obsessive desire to become human again to the point of self destruction through drugs, dark magic and alchemy, and Chief Thunder's endless grief for the tortured spirit of his brother. Glacius is playing the Michael Bay Transformers angle of "My tech can wreck some serious shit if bad dudes take it. I should probably not let them have it." And like I said, those are interesting enough to follow through on.

What I'm referring to is the NRS style of one cohesive story running through Season 1 of the new KI. For example, does anybody really care what kind of dumb shit Ultra Tech does now, aside from sending, what I can only assume is a Mk 3 Fulgore after Jago again?
Avatar
RedSumac
08/23/2013 07:16 PM (UTC)
0
SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
What I'm referring to is the NRS style of one cohesive story running through Season 1 of the new KI. For example, does anybody really care what kind of dumb shit Ultra Tech does now, aside from sending, what I can only assume is a Mk 3 Fulgore after Jago again?

I hope there would be direct representatives of Ultratech this time around, aside from Fulgore.
AFAIK, they were only mentioned, but I don't remember any actual representative of corporation appearing in the games. I would like to have this part with more focus on the "corporation evil" rather than demons from another world.
Avatar
Kabal20
Avatar
About Me

XBL: kabal31082, PSN: Kabal31082
Nintendo Id: kabal82, 3ds friend code: 2595-3252-2624

08/23/2013 07:51 PM (UTC)
0
SmokeNc-017 Wrote:

It's certainly a risky move for a fighting game, But if they really are building this as a platform now, maybe as a result of a rushed schedule, than I've moved away from the traditional fighting game model and started thinking of it as the League of Legends/Dota model where the base game can always be the same and more can always be added on.


I think a lot of gamers want to give this kind of model a chance, its just a matter how much we can actually trust MS's word that there will be a round 2. Double Helix is trying to revive a series that has been dormant for 17+ years. They can say all they plan on doing for the game down the line, but if MS decides to pull the plug after Season 1&/or 2, it doesn't mean crap. I mean just look at Halo Wars, MS's biggest franchise and they canned the studio right after the game was finished.
Avatar
RazorsEdge701
08/23/2013 08:07 PM (UTC)
0
RedSumac Wrote:
SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
What I'm referring to is the NRS style of one cohesive story running through Season 1 of the new KI. For example, does anybody really care what kind of dumb shit Ultra Tech does now, aside from sending, what I can only assume is a Mk 3 Fulgore after Jago again?

I hope there would be direct representatives of Ultratech this time around, aside from Fulgore.
AFAIK, they were only mentioned, but I don't remember any actual representative of corporation appearing in the games. I would like to have this part with more focus on the "corporation evil" rather than demons from another world.


I agree with this, I really rather think that if the series is ever going to have a decent story, which you kinda gotta commit to doing if you're going to have a "story mode" in your game, then they really need an actual playable character who is a leader of Ultratech, since almost every character in the game is connected to the shady shit they're up to.

I guess they could always just say Fulgore killed the board of directors and took over the company or something like that, though...
Avatar
RedSumac
08/23/2013 08:39 PM (UTC)
0
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
I agree with this, I really rather think that if the series is ever going to have a decent story, which you kinda gotta commit to doing if you're going to have a "story mode" in your game, then they really need an actual playable character who is a leader of Ultratech, since almost every character in the game is connected to the shady shit they're up to.

I guess they could always just say Fulgore killed the board of directors and took over the company or something like that, though...

I personally thought more in line of having some high-ranked officer of the corporation, rather than its leader as playable character. Or mad scientist. Considering what kind of stuff they create in their laboratories, I guess, they should have few of those around.
Avatar
SmokeNc-017
Avatar
About Me
art by fear-sAs
08/23/2013 11:30 PM (UTC)
0
Max posted a developer breakdown of Thunder on his channel. It's a 2 parter, so the second one should be up later on.

Chief Thunder breakdown
Avatar
Kabal20
Avatar
About Me

XBL: kabal31082, PSN: Kabal31082
Nintendo Id: kabal82, 3ds friend code: 2595-3252-2624

08/23/2013 11:49 PM (UTC)
0
SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
Max posted a developer breakdown of Thunder on his channel. It's a 2 parter, so the second one should be up later on.

Chief Thunder breakdown


Nice find. I think Thunder is my favorite so far and will most likely be my main. The only way he won't be is if Orchid makes the roster and has a rushdown play style.
Avatar
SmokeNc-017
Avatar
About Me
art by fear-sAs
08/24/2013 01:39 AM (UTC)
0
What's the over/under of this being Kim Wu or Orchid?
Teaser
Avatar
Kabal20
Avatar
About Me

XBL: kabal31082, PSN: Kabal31082
Nintendo Id: kabal82, 3ds friend code: 2595-3252-2624

08/24/2013 01:51 AM (UTC)
0
SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
What's the over/under of this being Kim Wu or Orchid?
Teaser


Possible a new character. Also Event hub













She looks pretty badass though.
Avatar
KungLaodoesntsuck
08/24/2013 02:34 AM (UTC)
0
Are those images bleeding down the page for anyone else?
Avatar
SmokeNc-017
Avatar
About Me
art by fear-sAs
08/24/2013 04:16 AM (UTC)
0
The fuchsia color scheme and bare legs certainly harken back to Kim Wu. But that character used a single nunchaku. This one uses an arachnid fighting style with the arm blades, and the tensile wire. If it is Kim Wu, it might be the biggest redesign so far, topping Glacius I think. If it's a brand new character, it's already better designed than the three we got in KI2.
Avatar
TemperaryUserName
Avatar
About Me
New sig on the way
08/24/2013 05:52 AM (UTC)
0
Baraka407 Wrote:
No offense taken, Temp. I post regularly over at the Double Helix board and I've seen more than a few people wishing that DH had kept the style/concepts from the previous games. People that don't like DH creating differing playstyles for characters, removing moves from characters, making Glacius in to a zoning character, changing their looks etc.

There's a key difference though. Some people don't like these things because they would've preferred to have seen something different done or would've made different choices on how to update/change certain aspects.

Then there are the people that are angry because things are being done that aren't "faithful" to the original games.

You might think that I'm creating a straw man here, but I'm specifically speaking to the latter group of people that literally want the 1995 game with updated graphics, and that group does exist.

Of course, not everyone's going to like what DH does and simply would've preferred a different style choice or a different look or whatever and I agree, that doesn't imply that they simply want the 1995 game with prettier graphics.

But I'm honestly not talking about those people. Heck, I don't like every change that they've made and unless you're totally drunk on the kool aid, I'm sure that any fan of the originals can find at least one or two things that they'd change about this game.

I personally don't like the street fighter font style or that Sabrewulf and Chief Thunder had to sacrifice their projectiles for the sake of fitting their archtype. I understand the sacrifice, I just don't like it.

My apologies if implied that people not completely on board with every choice of this game are just people that want it to be 1995 again. I didn't mean that at all. I was addressing a very specific group of people that can't stand the idea of any changes being made from KI or KI2 not because they would've done something different, but because of the mere fact that they are changes at all.

For the most part, it sounds like we see eye to eye on the game. I haven't visited the Double Helix boards, but if there are people on the DH boards who are entirely against change on principle, then I retract my original statement. My focus has been mainly on Eventhubs and SRK, and if there are purists to that extent on those sites, I haven't seen them.

But even though I misinterpreted your statement, I knew you didn't write it out maliciously. You've never been one to condescend. And as butthurt as I am about Glacius, I still have his render as my wallpaper (on phone and desktop).
SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
If it's a brand new character, it's already better designed than the three we got in KI2.
Agreed, but Kim Wu or not, why cover up the face? Having a visible human face at all would have made this character far more unique among the current cast. Fulgore and Spinal have no faces, Glacius doesn't have a human face, and Jago's face is covered. Chief Thunder has a face, but it's all covered in shit (which looks cool, but still).
And if it is Kim Wu, it seems like even more of a lost opportunity, cause honestly, she didn't have many distinguishing features beyond her hair and her color scheme. Right now, this new character's head looks like something I could make in Soul Calibur 3's create-a-character mode.
Avatar
SmokeNc-017
Avatar
About Me
art by fear-sAs
08/24/2013 06:26 AM (UTC)
0
Well what makes her unique is the spider motif she has going on. That tensile wire has got to play a big role in her move set. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
Avatar
RazorsEdge701
08/24/2013 09:57 AM (UTC)
0
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Agreed, but Kim Wu or not, why cover up the face? Having a visible human face at all would have made this character far more unique among the current cast. Fulgore and Spinal have no faces, Glacius doesn't have a human face, and Jago's face is covered. Chief Thunder has a face, but it's all covered in shit (which looks cool, but still).

And if it is Kim Wu, it seems like even more of a lost opportunity, cause honestly, she didn't have many distinguishing features beyond her hair and her color scheme. Right now, this new character's head looks like something I could make in Soul Calibur 3's create-a-character mode.


I'm getting a middle-eastern vibe from her clothing, I'd assume that's why the covered face.
Discord
Twitch
Twitter
YouTube
Facebook
Privacy Policy
© 1998-2025 Shadow Knight Media, LLC. All rights reserved. Mortal Kombat, the dragon logo and all character names are trademarks and copyright of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.