Ok, everyone. I saw tonight's episode. I have to say that there were some interesting moments, but there were also some disappointing elements.

Ok, a few things concerning that post ^. The 9th season has already been 100% confirmed if you're wondering ^

Secondly, I tried to listen to the end and I heard that voice say something concerning "Kandor" now based off some spoilers rumor has it that's ZOD somehow but I'm not 100% sure if this is true(we'll find out next week most likely via season finale in "Doomsday".

I liked tonights show, although my only beef is there should have been more fights between the JL and Injustice League there(or whatever they call themselves)

I'm a little confused as to the season finale next week one one thing as I heard someone say "you're out of the Justive League" or no longer apart of us?

Who's voice was that and were they talking about Clark showing Flash, GA and BC near a grave?

No doubt he'll change his own fate of him dying but as I mentioned a week ago. 2 key people are supposed to die....who will they be?

Chloe shapeshifter was rather clever and a good tease to the fans thinking "she's alright" ha...

Parasite and Plastique I see getting out and joining up with others in the future, most likely next season vs. the Justive League...we will see something no doubt.

MMH will be back I'm sure, the actor Phil Morris is always saying he's interested to do more, come back as MMH. Question is will the new producers feel the same? He is apart of the JL afterall.

I like it how Clark and GA have some animosity, distrust and some issues with one another. Oliver taking the whole "batman" approach with hiding a Green K ring from Clark no doubt in case of an emergency or perhaps if Clark were to be controlled....other then that I've learned the past few years especially Unlike the X-Men, Justice Leaguers are way more independant til something brings all of them together I've noticed...

I find it very interesting to see that Legion Cosmic boy comes back next week to tell clark/help him ensure his own survival and convince him that he must banish or kill DD no doubt.

Oh btw, as for Lex, he's not dead...they're making it appear that way for now. Rumor has it at some point either if not in the season finale but next year Lex will pop up and be back again as "this big surprise" that nobody is saying. I don't believe he's dead at all...knowing Lex they'll probably say something like he in anticipation created a clone of himself that he controlled. Remember what he did with Lana? I wouldn't doubt if something similar was the case with that lex that "got blown up by Oliver".

I'm sure something like that will be explained much like they did with the "what happened to lana" all that time in between...

Speaking of Supergirl, she flew off to find the lost city of Kandor(in the comics a little city within a bottle where Kryptonians had no power) but there was more I know with that city...so I'm curious to see who that voice was talking to Tess at the end. Has to be ZOD or someone, it's definitely not Jor-El....and I doubt it's Brainiac.

Anywho, I'm really looking forward to next week's finale. Rumors btw guys also have it that Tom Welling at some point will wear some kind of costume next year, officially be flying and at some point play Superman in a movie whether it's Justice League movie, Batman vs. Superman movie or a rumored Smallville film after Smallville's done....let's hope that happens.

Plastique was played by Jessica Parker Kennedy, she is VERY HOT! I alway's thought she looked like Jessica Biel.

Anyway lol,

Good show tonight, kinda was hoping for a bit more "ACTION" but I guess were saving that for the Finale?

Ah, well, I'm not surprised that they're having a 9th season. It's amazing that this show has been on for so long. I couldn't make out too much of what the entity from the orb was saying to Tess other than asking her about the crystal's destruction.

Like I said, I would have liked to have seen the Justice League fight the Injustice Squad in this episode. But then again, considering how few Injustice members there were around in this episode, it wouldn't be that great.

I couldn't make out too much of the season finale preview. I think the grave is supposed to be Clark's grave. Maybe it's a vision of what will likely come, namely if Clark fails in handling Doomsday. It'd be sort of like the Death of Superman story.

If two key people are supposed to die, one of them will likely be Chloe. Considering how the future didn't have any record of her and that she's very much in the middle of the conflict between Clark and Davis, I wouldn't be surprised if they nixed her character.

I definitely want to see more MMH. Deadly Oreo attack FTW! ^_^ But seriously, they should have him in some more episodes in the 9th season, and I hope they have him in this season's finale.

I also like the dynamic between Clark and Oliver. It would be interesting to see what really went on with Lex. Speaking of Jor-El, I wonder how and when Clark is going to restore the Fortress of Solitude to the way it was.

About the rumors, I doubt he'll be in a movie like that. I thought there was the whole "no flights, no tights" rule. I think that Clark should learn how to fly before the series ends. I can imagine that Clark will still wear his red jacket and blue shirt. It would be kind of neat if he had the 'S' logo on his blue shirt.

Oh, and there's one thing I forgot to mention in my post...

phew, i don't even know where to comment, so i'll say this: i enjoyed last week's show alot; can't wait for the season finale; of course Lex ain't dead, i've said that all along, but i don't believe they'll go with the whole "clone" thing, as this show is cheezy enough as it is; Clark kicked out of the JL temporarily is kinda funny, considering they'd be nothing without him, and he can pwn them all!!! glad there's a Season 9, but i hope they stop there, there's no need to beat a dead horse with lame story-line arcs, kinda like they've been doing lately, imho, this Season has kinda been pushing it a little to the absurt at times. good for a series to go out at the top (like Corner Gas), then stay on too long (Sopranos).

I never said Lex clone thing will definitely happen but something along the lines of that. They'll have to explain it next year like they did with that "Lana hiatus" storyline earlier this year if you remember back.

But anywho, yeah Sub give it time I'm sure next year not a doubt in my mind you'll see some Justice League vs. Injustice Squad I bet.

BTW, I tape every show and that voice at the end said this to tess

Tess:I destroyed the Crystal like you asked.

Voice:"Is Kal-El ready to fulfil his prophecy"

Tess:Yes

Voice:"Then there is nothing that can save him or Kandor"

Now, It's tough to hear but the first part was definitely "then there is nothing that can save him" but the second part sounded like either "or Kandor" or "except Kandor"

Perhaps we'll see Supergirl again at some point?

I'm still trying to figure out who that is, it can't be Jor-El because he would help Clark, not hurt him.

curiouser and curiouser!

K, after watching both previews via WB and the one posted last page. I'm almost possitive it's Zod...because of this huge Z burnt onto the grass...now I'd like to know how the hell he got out of the crytal ring that Clark had that trapped Zod and the other Phantoms?

Perhaps it has something to do with the Blue Crystal being destroyed....

Hey all. I got done watching the season finale several minutes ago. I have to say that it was a bit of a mixed bag in the sense that it had good elements in it but felt like it wasn't as action-oriented as I would have liked it to be. Maybe it's because I wanted to have seen a longer battle between Clark and Doomsday.

It was really nice to see Bart and Dinah again though I'm disappointed we didn't see Victor/Cyborg, Arthur/Aquaman, or John/MMH. I was shocked at Jimmy's death, and I guess that Davis counts as the other death. It was neat that it seems like Jimmy's little brother might become the Jimmy Olsen we are familiar with.

I don't think we've seen the last of Sam Witwer, because I think that somehow, Davis' dead body is now being used as the vessel for Zod. I wish there was something in the episode that led to how Zod got released. It just sort of seemed a bit out of the blue. I hope that with the 9th season that Zod doesn't go away so soon and that he makes more of an impact. We'll probably be seeing Doomsday again.

We also have Lois missing due to her putting on the Legion ring. I wonder what will become of that. Maybe it was her that somehow led to Zod's return.

I liked how Clark realized that Oliver was right and that he needs to embrace his Kryptonian side and fulfill his destiny. He really should try to restore the Fortress to the way it was so that he can get aid from Jor-El. It was interesting that Clark felt the need to exile himself from others. Maybe this is meant to lead closer to him becoming Superman.

I definitely want to see more of Tess. I like her character, and I'd like to see what becomes of her and how she'll be able to aid Clark. I would like to also see a lot more of John Jones as well as the return of Kara and the other Justice League members.

Overall, this episode ended off in a big cliffhanger like all the other season finales of Smallville do. We will probably see more focus on the Kryptonian stuff. Maybe Zod will unleash all of the phantoms from the Phantom Zone, which in turn could hopefully mean that we'll see more of John Jones.

So yeah, I look forward to season 9, and I hope it turns out to be the best season. It will probably be the last considering all that has happened. But the show has to end at some point.

My thoughts exactly. Very good ender! I liked it all!

I was rather satisfied but a little sad about the "former" Jimmy Olsen, noticed how they never said his younger brothers "name" Jimmy Jr perhaps? And I also loved how they hinted at his little bro being the "official Jimmy Olsen" we all know and love like Sub mentioned.

The Superman vs. Doomsday battle could have been longer I grant you, however I'm shocked that none of you mentioned one key element...

CLARK FLEW!!! That wasn't a leap, that was him flying and ramming DD into the ground literally. Not to mention the whole "I don't know, I just got out really fast" part....kind of was a give away and confirmed that....

Obviously though, he'll probably learn to control it more next season but everyone knows that Supes is faster then a speeding bullet and managed some how...none the less it was awesome and remember this is "prior" to the actual one day bigtime Supes vs. DD battle....

One thing I was a little annoyed about, Oliver, Bart and BC deceiving Clark even though it was "the right thing to do" Green K kills him if he's near it long enough. Still, I will miss the former Jimmy Olsen...


I won't miss Davis, but the thing Sub mentioned I think might be true. I remember reading a possible rumorville saying Sam Withers "may be back next season with an interesting new role" according to spoilers and rumors concerning next season.

So I won't be surprised if he is the new vessle for Zod returning...

I also agree with sub that we need to learn more about how he returned...I'm guessing it had something to do with what happened last season with Lex/Clark at the Fortress, the blue crytal being destroyed and something to do with the little crystal that Clark used to capture Zod and the others.

I'm sure they'll explain it next year, so I'm not worried about that. They're basically setting it up for that.

As for Lois, I think she's perhaps in the future some where.....she's not dead and you know she ain't. One theory I had prior to this was Clark died and she went back to save him, but that didn't happen. So, I'm guessing she's in the future. I don't think something Lois did had anything to do with Zod's return. The reason I say this is because Zod was already speaking to Tess and returning before Lois even got her hands on that ring from the Legion.

One thing to me that I want answered...which ring is that. Is that the new one Cosmic boy just gave Clark? If so, when did he lose it? It can't be the old one since he used that in another show earlier this year. And how the hell did Tess get it before Lois decked her out cold and put on the Legion ring then disappeared? All in next season, in due time no doubt.

Lastly, I like the whole watch tower gig at the end with Chloe...I guess the other rumor is true then about her being the commander of Watch Tower. Flash aka Impulse aka Bart, Green Arrow aka Oliver and Black Canary disappeared....but you know they'll be back.

Cosmic boy returning was cool, I wonder if we'll see more Legion's in the future between Lois having that ring and perhaps something else happening in the future.


I was very pleased though with this season ender overall, I give it a 9/10. Last years I felt was more of 8/10 personally I liked this one more honestly a little bit more.

I look forward to next season a lot, the deal with Lois, Legion, future and returning Justice Leaguers perhaps, Chloe taking over as Watch Tower control, Zod being dealt with again, DD possibly popping up again, MMH returning hopefully with his powers at some point. Lastly, Clark perhaps wearing some kind of costume or something. Remember, the first few years the original producers of this show said "no tights, no flights" policy. No flights was already broken.....so who's to say no tights or costume at some point?

Also, although chances are more high that next will be the last season. I thought that about this season and it didn't happen. So, I won't be shocked if they decide to run 10 and call it quits if next season is in demand for more by the fans much like this season was.

Yeah, it was sad how Jimmy went, but at least he was able to kill Davis. Even though Davis' "human" side separated from Doomsday, he was still the same in terms of personality. It was nice to see Jimmy learn the truth about Clark sometime before he died.

Considering that Davis is supposed to be the "spitting image" of Zod, it would make sense that he would be the new vessel.

I didn't think about Clark flying. Considering how this season was and how next season might be the last, it's about time they develop the sub-plot of Clark learning how to fly. That and dealing with Zod and any other major enemies probably all tie into him fulfilling his destiny and truly becoming Superman.

I was confused about the ring myself. Hopefully they'll explain that. I felt like the way last season ended was really strange and felt sort of flat. I'm talking about the part where Lex activates the orb and the Fortress crumbles.

I kind of felt that there should have been a bit more of Tess, especially since there wasn't any interaction between her and Clark in this episode.

But yeah, I guess when season 9 comes along in the fall, I'll be there to watch it.

I thought it was kind of weird how the Legion ring gave off the same colors that surrounded ZOD. I wonder if Bizzaro will show up again at some point, maybe to assist ZOD in return for freeing him from the Phantom Zone? Probably Unlikely just a thought though.

Bizarro was killed by Lana, remember? She used blue kryptonite to overpower him.

Oh right, brain fart. Was thinking of the MM part with him. I would be shocked if somehow we see Zatana again, since she could use a body vessel to re-incarnate her father if somehow once ZOD is beaten or trapped by superman she decides to sacrifice him for her father once and for all. Again I'm thinking 1 sided here. But it would be nice!

damn! i missed it last night...grrr....! had to go watch Star Trek last night instead! forgot it was Season finale!! oh well, i already said i planned to get this Season on DVD, now i've got all the more reason to. course i do have a chance to see it in replay form on 'Space' (our Sci-Fi channel for those in the not know!) tomorrow after i get off work

ok, so, um, yeah, watched the finale today (Saturday) and was kinda disappointed that it didn't end exactly with a bang like previous seasons have.

but what i want to know is:



can't wait til Season 9! Zod lives

hey everyone...
thought i share my opinion about the season finale....

the part about clark "flying" that not true... it was a leap... notice that the ground cracked as clark kneeled before doomsday leap towards him....

about the jimmy passing away thing... i think somehow he will be back... but was weird to see his little brother almost wearing what jimmy wears now...

about the whole davis thing i think there is a connection with zod... with the human body of doomsday killed it activated the crystal in which awoking zod using davis's body..... they never showed what happen to davis body after he was impaled....

im sure this is correct but doomsday is zod's creation or was jor-el's brother aka kara's father who did.... im not 100% sure on this... but a little confirmation would be nice...

ne ways can't wait till the next season...

Lois is alive. She put on the Legion ring and traveled somewhere in time. As for Davis/Doomsday, he was created by Zod. It is possible that Davis' death activated the crystal. I have to wonder just what exactly happened at the end of Injustice when Tess was engulfed in the field of energy. They didn't explain that in Doomsday.

i don't know, this might be a little premature to post this, but mkflegend, see what you think:

I hated the way they ended the finale. It felt like they rushed the hell out of it, and the final "big" battle they'd been building up these last few seasons was disappointing. Clark and Doomsday throw a few punches, Clark grabs him and leaps off smashing into the ground, and it cuts off what happens next. That along with major screwups like killing off Jimmy, and a bunch of unexplained crap they just throw out at you in their attempt at "suspense", just...kills it.

I've stayed with the show for a long time now, but since the past few seasons it's been gradually slipping. They keep overusing ideas and plot devices, like Jimmy and Chloe get back together, one of them gets pissed off for some stupid reason and they break up, they get back together, they break up again...I mean, damn, enough is enough. I'm fine with the writers adding in relationship problems between the characters, but they need to learn to make up their damn minds. But KILLING OFF a major supporting character wasn't the way to do it.

They've raped and twisted the characters and story so much now to the point it's sickening, and some of the characters themselves are beginning to get annoying. The writers should be clubbed to death Force Unleashed style with a lightsaber by Sam Witwer. A show like Smallville needs more action and SENSIBLE suspense, along with better character/plot development that actually reflects what happens in the future of Superman mythology, and less repetitive plot devices and overused scenarios.

And I also believe the show itself has gone on long enough. Because they've overdone things and messed the story up so much, the series has become stale and I can't take it seriously anymore. Season 9 should be the last one, and hopefully they'll end it with a satisfying bang to repent for all the fuck ups they've done lately. They've already gone too far, continuing the series for more than another season would just be beating a dead horse IMO. Out of all the 8 seasons, they've had their chance to introduce loads of interesting characters and major villains from the Superman mythos, but they instead decided to screw around and replace them with one lame, cliche, and unimportant character after another. Get it over with already, and this time do it right.

Sorry if I sound harsh to all you other fans, but this is just the way I really feel now about the show. It's going downhill.

I'm pretty certain it was him flying and not a leap....if you watched his feet all around him, they used the same effect that they used in season 3 when he was being controlled by Jor-El as Kal-El, plus you see him grabbing Doomsday in mid air then flying/slamming him down thru the ground.

Plus, in interviews during the season and prior the producers even said he would fly. They said when asked, willl clark fly. They said "let's just say by the end of this season, he won't be wearing tights"

They also mentioned/hinted at him flying at the end of the show when Chloe asked him "how he got out of there in time" Clark said, I don't know I just somehow moved fast enough like I never did before or something like that implying that he flew out of that crator with the bomb from the JL. They didn't show that part though but I'm confident he flew finally. We just haven't seen him in the high sky since season 3, that doesn't mean he didn't fly however.

Doomsday in Smallville was Zod's son that he made/designed to destroy Clark in the future and make him able to adapt to anything, thus make DD literally near to impossible to kill as well as Clark aka Supermans biggest challenge/threat. Tess, Doomsdays mother(Zod's wife, forget her name) and Brainiac all explained this during the course of season 8 in previous episodes.

Big, big update guys.

Here's the interview, check it out.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/mattdentler/archives/2009/05/11/five_questions_for_allison_mack

Also, check out kryptonsite.com under spoilers/rumors ;) if you want to read more. MKGeek, you should be happy man lol ironically they got the same actor who played Derek Reese from Terminator to play "Metalo" a cyborg lol. The irony...I'm fine with that.

Just read an interview that allison mack did and she says something very, very big...

Hey there mkflegend. It's great to see some new information.

matallo is supposed to be in seaon 9. i read a while back ago on comic book movie.com. so i think that will be interesting to see. the reason why i think smallville got rid of kristen is because she was filming street fighter. so she will be back in season 9. i guarntee it.