Ohh, okay. No, sales tax is not included in the price here. You have to figure it in yourself when deciding what you're gonna buy. And you never find new video games below MSRP here either. So if you can get it for £40 which is tax included that's equivalent to only $52 so actually that's almost 20% less than what we have to pay.
I'm not really surprised. The U.S. is hyper capitalist even compared to other capitalist countries so consumers get raked over the coals even more here. You wouldn't believe what we have to pay for internet compared to people in Europe, and for the most part it's not as high speeds either.
LOL at figuring out the tax.
The USA is extremely big and laying down the cables for broadband internet is expensive. I would not be surpised if you could not choose your internet provider because not all of them can put down their cables. I pay a package which includes Internet and television totalling £25 a month. Internet is high speed and unlimited.
Well in my area there is a company that has a monopoly on cable/internet which sucks. £25 is equivalent to $32. We pay fucking $130 a month for combined cable television/internet, and we don't get unlimited data either. If we go over a certain amount we get charged extra. The internet part itself is $47, BUT that's only packaged with cable. We wanted to get rid of the cable and just have internet but we found out if we get rid of the cable the internet would cost $100 a month, so we were like fuck it.
Wow. Imagine living in 2019 and not having unlimited data. I have had unlimited data ever since 56kB modems like back in the late 90's. I click on my WiFi and can see four different companies from other people on the street. $130 and you do not even get unlimited data. That is so bad. That is laughable. Every company here offers unlimited data. Cheap Internet packages here cost £12 per month and even they are unlimited data.
Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
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Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
So who are said would be dlc then ? Only one i know is that shang tsung and sindel were rumored
You know what irritated me? If you buy the game with DLC Pack then you get 6 more fighters. But if you look at the official MK11 site and look at the roster spots then there are 29 and not 31 or 25... and this is really strange because I don't think this is a mistake. I hope those spots are for secret kharacters, but who knows.
Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
Nope. I am saying the leaks are pretty damn accurate and considering they, out of all of that, had only one out of at least a dozen other predictions go slightly south still is quite an amazing track record. So if all of that other stuff they predicted is true (and it is) and they also predicted there are 2 or 3 unlockable characters outside of the 25 and that those characters are not DLC (which they have) then given that 95% accuracy rating I am inclined to believe it because of literally everything else they told us that they couldnt have luckily guessed.
Also, who ever said anything about 6 unlockables?? The leak was 34 after KP1 is said and done. Even the leaked photo backs that up. 25 base, 6 DLC and 3 unlockables - 34.
Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
Nope. I am saying the leaks are pretty damn accurate and considering they, out of all of that, had only one out of at least a dozen other predictions go slightly south still is quite an amazing track record. So if all of that other stuff they predicted is true (and it is) and they also predicted there are 2 or 3 unlockable characters outside of the 25 and that those characters are not DLC (which they have) then given that 95% accuracy rating I am inclined to believe it because of literally everything else they told us that they couldnt have luckily guessed.
Also, who ever said anything about 6 unlockables?? The leak was 34 after KP1 is said and done. Even the leaked photo backs that up. 25 base, 6 DLC and 3 unlockables - 34.
How do you get 25 base roster ? Seeing that Shoa Kahn is not base but pre order...
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Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
Nope. I am saying the leaks are pretty damn accurate and considering they, out of all of that, had only one out of at least a dozen other predictions go slightly south still is quite an amazing track record. So if all of that other stuff they predicted is true (and it is) and they also predicted there are 2 or 3 unlockable characters outside of the 25 and that those characters are not DLC (which they have) then given that 95% accuracy rating I am inclined to believe it because of literally everything else they told us that they couldnt have luckily guessed.
Also, who ever said anything about 6 unlockables?? The leak was 34 after KP1 is said and done. Even the leaked photo backs that up. 25 base, 6 DLC and 3 unlockables - 34.
This was my exact reading of the situation so far. The numbers from the select screen leak don't add up unless they match the roster leak.
Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
Nope. I am saying the leaks are pretty damn accurate and considering they, out of all of that, had only one out of at least a dozen other predictions go slightly south still is quite an amazing track record. So if all of that other stuff they predicted is true (and it is) and they also predicted there are 2 or 3 unlockable characters outside of the 25 and that those characters are not DLC (which they have) then given that 95% accuracy rating I am inclined to believe it because of literally everything else they told us that they couldnt have luckily guessed.
Also, who ever said anything about 6 unlockables?? The leak was 34 after KP1 is said and done. Even the leaked photo backs that up. 25 base, 6 DLC and 3 unlockables - 34.
No, it was not. The leak said the Kollector was a cyborg. He is not a cyborg.
If you look at the roster page on the official website, 25 character are fully opaque but the rest are faded to varying degrees. I am pretty sure that means 25 characters at at launch with DLC characters coming. Other then the leaker guessing based on sources and a picture there is nothing to suggest unlockable characters.
Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
Nope. I am saying the leaks are pretty damn accurate and considering they, out of all of that, had only one out of at least a dozen other predictions go slightly south still is quite an amazing track record. So if all of that other stuff they predicted is true (and it is) and they also predicted there are 2 or 3 unlockable characters outside of the 25 and that those characters are not DLC (which they have) then given that 95% accuracy rating I am inclined to believe it because of literally everything else they told us that they couldnt have luckily guessed.
Also, who ever said anything about 6 unlockables?? The leak was 34 after KP1 is said and done. Even the leaked photo backs that up. 25 base, 6 DLC and 3 unlockables - 34.
No, it was not. The leak said the Kollector was a cyborg. He is not a cyborg.
If you look at the roster page on the official website, 25 character are fully opaque but the rest are faded to varying degrees. I am pretty sure that means 25 characters at at launch with DLC characters coming. Other then the leaker guessing based on sources and a picture there is nothing to suggest unlockable characters.
The leak I am referring to, and not the ones from YouTube, Reddit or GameFAQS that piggybacked off of the OG one specified there was a cyber on the roster and several people leapt to the conclusion of it being Kollector as we knew nothing about him. The clue they gave, if memory serves, was something from MK3. People assumed it was the cybers, really they were referring to a playable multiple armed monster (ala Sheeva). The person later clarified Kollector had multiple arms and Frost had been cyberized (if thats a word).
Theres been a shit ton of people piggybacking off the original info, and a crap ton of misinformation and assumptions because of it. But sure, lets ignore the blatant beta pic and assume the more natural answer: we are getting 3 random select boxes. Lmao
Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
Nope. I am saying the leaks are pretty damn accurate and considering they, out of all of that, had only one out of at least a dozen other predictions go slightly south still is quite an amazing track record. So if all of that other stuff they predicted is true (and it is) and they also predicted there are 2 or 3 unlockable characters outside of the 25 and that those characters are not DLC (which they have) then given that 95% accuracy rating I am inclined to believe it because of literally everything else they told us that they couldnt have luckily guessed.
Also, who ever said anything about 6 unlockables?? The leak was 34 after KP1 is said and done. Even the leaked photo backs that up. 25 base, 6 DLC and 3 unlockables - 34.
No, it was not. The leak said the Kollector was a cyborg. He is not a cyborg.
If you look at the roster page on the official website, 25 character are fully opaque but the rest are faded to varying degrees. I am pretty sure that means 25 characters at at launch with DLC characters coming. Other then the leaker guessing based on sources and a picture there is nothing to suggest unlockable characters.
The leak I am referring to, and not the ones from YouTube, Reddit or GameFAQS that piggybacked off of the OG one specified there was a cyber on the roster and several people leapt to the conclusion of it being Kollector as we knew nothing about them. The clue they gave, if memory serves, was something from MK3. People assumed it was the cybers, really they were referring to a playable multiple armed monster (ala Sheeva). The person later clarified Kollector had multiple arms and Frost had been cyberized (if thats a word).
Theres been a shit ton of people piggybacking off the original info, and a crap ton of misinformation and assumptions because of it. But sure, lets ignore the blatant beta pic and assume the more natural answer: we are getting 3 random select boxes. Lmao
Where is the source for that leak? Those boxes could be there for future UI purposes which is common practice.
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Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
Nope. I am saying the leaks are pretty damn accurate and considering they, out of all of that, had only one out of at least a dozen other predictions go slightly south still is quite an amazing track record. So if all of that other stuff they predicted is true (and it is) and they also predicted there are 2 or 3 unlockable characters outside of the 25 and that those characters are not DLC (which they have) then given that 95% accuracy rating I am inclined to believe it because of literally everything else they told us that they couldnt have luckily guessed.
Also, who ever said anything about 6 unlockables?? The leak was 34 after KP1 is said and done. Even the leaked photo backs that up. 25 base, 6 DLC and 3 unlockables - 34.
No, it was not. The leak said the Kollector was a cyborg. He is not a cyborg.
If you look at the roster page on the official website, 25 character are fully opaque but the rest are faded to varying degrees. I am pretty sure that means 25 characters at at launch with DLC characters coming. Other then the leaker guessing based on sources and a picture there is nothing to suggest unlockable characters.
The leak I am referring to, and not the ones from YouTube, Reddit or GameFAQS that piggybacked off of the OG one specified there was a cyber on the roster and several people leapt to the conclusion of it being Kollector as we knew nothing about him. The clue they gave, if memory serves, was something from MK3. People assumed it was the cybers, really they were referring to a playable multiple armed monster (ala Sheeva). The person later clarified Kollector had multiple arms and Frost had been cyberized (if thats a word).
Theres been a shit ton of people piggybacking off the original info, and a crap ton of misinformation and assumptions because of it. But sure, lets ignore the blatant beta pic and assume the more natural answer: we are getting 3 random select boxes. Lmao
So who are these three supposed secret unlockables according to this leak? Mileena? Shinnok? Rain? Let's hear some names.
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I really think the only way to make the entire fanbase happy is... wait for it... another MK Armageddon game where every character is in it
Maybe not another Armageddon, but I personally wouldn't mind a large roster tag-team based MK game that's NON-CANON and features a huge 40-50 character roster. No guests. Basically something a long the lines of Tekken Tag Tournament 2.
Something that's big and fun. A giant fan service game before the next serious main installment. People get their damn Rains, their Fujins, their Haviks ect. Just nothing but fun.
Armageddon's mistake was that it tried to be canon.
I'd be in on this idea if it was a 2D return to digitized actor's sprites, but Ed Boon doesn't like this idea.
This, Shaolin Monks 2 (or HD remake), an arcade collection featuring Trilogy, Gold and DA, a 3D remake of the original arcade version
Anything like that would be fine. I just want them to break away from the main games for at least one game- I really think it'll be refreshing and is much needed at this point in time. Tensions and pressures are high among the hardcore fans these days- people stressing over plot inconsistencies, arguing over roster spots, fighting over who deserves to be in/out- Yeah, that's typical with every new MK game but it seems to have reached a boiling point over the last two games.
Just do a big non-canon roster game or a giant MK Adventure spin-off game with a variety of selectable characters- It'll make most fans happy and give NRS a break from having to focus so hard on a story driven-main entry. Even if it means waiting much longer for MK12, I don't think that'll be much of a sacrifice.
I hope they consider such options.
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I really think the only way to make the entire fanbase happy is... wait for it... another MK Armageddon game where every character is in it
Maybe not another Armageddon, but I personally wouldn't mind a large roster tag-team based MK game that's NON-CANON and features a huge 40-50 character roster. No guests. Basically something a long the lines of Tekken Tag Tournament 2.
Something that's big and fun. A giant fan service game before the next serious main installment. People get their damn Rains, their Fujins, their Haviks ect. Just nothing but fun.
Armageddon's mistake was that it tried to be canon.
I'd be in on this idea if it was a 2D return to digitized actor's sprites, but Ed Boon doesn't like this idea.
This, Shaolin Monks 2 (or HD remake), an arcade collection featuring Trilogy, Gold and DA, a 3D remake of the original arcade version
Anything like that would be fine. I just want them to break away from the main games for at least one game- I really think it'll be refreshing and is much needed at this point in time. Tensions and pressures are high among the hardcore fans these days- people stressing over plot inconsistencies, arguing over roster spots, fighting over who deserves to be in/out- Yeah, that's typical with every new MK game but it seems to have reached a boiling point over the last two games.
Just do a big non-canon roster game or a giant MK Adventure spin-off game with a variety of selectable characters- It'll make most fans happy and give NRS a break from having to focus so hard on a story driven-main entry. Even if it means waiting much longer for MK12, I don't think that'll be much of a sacrifice.
I hope they consider such options.
I've been wanting to see a prequel game centered on the tournament from 500 years ago. We could see the characters featured in the memorial room where Raiden meets Jin in MKX: the Great Kung Lao, one of Johnny's ancestors (with similar powers but a totally different personality), a Kenshi ancestor, a former Lin Kuei Grandmaster... along with a Red Dragon operative from before there were Black Dragons, a pre-Columbian Native American, a European knight, a representative from one of the great African empires, and whoever else they want to bring in from around the 1490's. Some classic characters like Raiden, Kitana, and Shang would be around, and they could even fit in lesser-seen Outworld faces like Rain, Sheeva, and Reiko.
Since Great Kung Lao is supposed to die, they could even frame the story from Outworld's perspective -- possibly as a Goro origin story. Maybe the Shokan are currently out of favor with the Emperor and Prince Goro rises to defeat the undefeatable Kung Lao to regain their honor. And the Earthrealm warriors can be seen as somewhat villainous if they kill the Zaterran spies in their midst and defeat their matriarch in Mortal Kombat, leaving a young Reptile as the orphaned last known survivor of his race.
If it's not a straight fighting game, I think it would be fun to have a Shaolin Monks style adventure game featuring Goro, with the same kind of PvP side mode as Shaolin Monks had. An adventure format makes it more possible to feature Motaro as a boss -- a natural rival who seeks to thwart Goro's rise, and who Goro defeats and chooses to humiliate rather than kill.
Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
Nope. I am saying the leaks are pretty damn accurate and considering they, out of all of that, had only one out of at least a dozen other predictions go slightly south still is quite an amazing track record. So if all of that other stuff they predicted is true (and it is) and they also predicted there are 2 or 3 unlockable characters outside of the 25 and that those characters are not DLC (which they have) then given that 95% accuracy rating I am inclined to believe it because of literally everything else they told us that they couldnt have luckily guessed.
Also, who ever said anything about 6 unlockables?? The leak was 34 after KP1 is said and done. Even the leaked photo backs that up. 25 base, 6 DLC and 3 unlockables - 34.
No, it was not. The leak said the Kollector was a cyborg. He is not a cyborg.
If you look at the roster page on the official website, 25 character are fully opaque but the rest are faded to varying degrees. I am pretty sure that means 25 characters at at launch with DLC characters coming. Other then the leaker guessing based on sources and a picture there is nothing to suggest unlockable characters.
The leak I am referring to, and not the ones from YouTube, Reddit or GameFAQS that piggybacked off of the OG one specified there was a cyber on the roster and several people leapt to the conclusion of it being Kollector as we knew nothing about him. The clue they gave, if memory serves, was something from MK3. People assumed it was the cybers, really they were referring to a playable multiple armed monster (ala Sheeva). The person later clarified Kollector had multiple arms and Frost had been cyberized (if thats a word).
Theres been a shit ton of people piggybacking off the original info, and a crap ton of misinformation and assumptions because of it. But sure, lets ignore the blatant beta pic and assume the more natural answer: we are getting 3 random select boxes. Lmao
So who are these three supposed secret unlockables according to this leak? Mileena? Shinnok? Rain? Let's hear some names.
Mileena and Shinnok, yeah, supposedly anyway. The third is where the confusion started. Apparently a source said Shang, another said Shang was going to be held for DLC so thats the only uncertainty if you go by the leaks. Maybe he was always meant to be DLC, maybe he wasnt ready in time so they swapped him with someone from the Kombat Pack? Im not trying to be a know-it-all douchebag, Im just stating I think its highly likely (for once) we get a genuine surprise thats nice (unlike Cyber Sub).
As for where, it has been discussed all over the place but already pretty much deleted from its place of origin to protect the persons sources and identities, especially since so much of it turned out accurate. But there were people on GameFAQS who knew the same stuff and I discussed it at length with them too, it just got twisted by assumptions.
Though to sum up what all was leaked on various sites that came from the original person since its all public knowledge now anyway; Cetrion was her name and was a goddess related to Shinnok, Jax was for sure in, Frost was in and as a twist is cyberized, Kronika is the mom to Cetrion and Shinnok, Kollector was indeed his name and had multiple arms and was a monster character, the starting roster included Kahn and was 25, plus 3 unlockables (most likely Mileena and Shinnok whom are said to definitely be in) and that characters being considered for KP1 were Sindel, Fujin, Nightwolf, Sheeva, Terminator and Spawn. Other characters being discussed as in the running, perhaps for a second pack, included Reiko and Sareena. So maybe Shang did get swapped with someone, maybe they couldnt nail the morphing shit down in time so they pushed him back a little?
If even half of that DLC shit is true, Id personally be sold. We desperately need some 3D rep in here. Could do without Sheeva though.
There is no secret unlockables, get over it. Those are just placeholder DLC slots and bios for non playable characters such as Kronika, Hydro, and the guy from the krypt. They need bios too, whether or not they are playable. There is no trophy suggesting playable characters and we would know about them day 1 of open beta or launch because of dat mining on their variations. Terminator was only rumored because of the trophy "ter" which was actually geras. SHinnok seems like he got resurrected by kronika and could possibly be DLC as well but I doubt he is unlockable. We all knew Shang was in the game because of his stage and soul stealing cutscenes in story mode. That wasnt hard to predict.
There is no secret unlockables, get over it. Those are just placeholder DLC slots and bios for non playable characters such as Kronika, Hydro, and the guy from the krypt. They need bios too, whether or not they are playable. There is no trophy suggesting playable characters and we would know about them day 1 of open beta or launch because of dat mining on their variations. Terminator was only rumored because of the trophy "ter" which was actually geras. SHinnok seems like he got resurrected by kronika and could possibly be DLC as well but I doubt he is unlockable. We all knew Shang was in the game because of his stage and soul stealing cutscenes in story mode. That wasnt hard to predict.
Please stop using trophy list as an argument. It's stupid.
Isn't the point of hidden unlockables to stay hidden? If there are any they are doing very good job hiding them.
I really can’t wait for this game to come out to finally put this bullshit about super secret unlockables to bed. Empty boxes on a very early unfinished character select screen don’t automatically mean hidden characters.
The leak was legit but someone along the way added that bullshit about Mileena, Shinnok and Shang as unlockables that should be blatantly obvious to everyone by now. And saying they got it confused for DLC isn’t right either, is Shinnok really going to be DLC? He wasn’t liked in MKX and one of the least used characters why bring him back for this one and make people pay for him? That’s not smart marketing.
Theres too much evidence leading to more than 25
Really? Because I don't see it.
I listed it. You really think the leaks got everything right except for unlockables? Even with Shang, they were 200% sure he was in, they just heard conflicting things about him being DLC or unlockable and guess whos first up for DLC. But hell, if they could accurately predict all that, and Cetrion, and her relation to Shinnok, and Kollector, and how many arms he has, and Frost, as well as her design changes and story implications, they might as well play Power Ball and get a couple million. Thats a hell of a coincidence.
So you're saying there's 6 more secret unlockable characters in the game their keeping quiet outside of the KNOWN 25 and not counting DLC Shang? Is that what you're saying?
Nope. I am saying the leaks are pretty damn accurate and considering they, out of all of that, had only one out of at least a dozen other predictions go slightly south still is quite an amazing track record. So if all of that other stuff they predicted is true (and it is) and they also predicted there are 2 or 3 unlockable characters outside of the 25 and that those characters are not DLC (which they have) then given that 95% accuracy rating I am inclined to believe it because of literally everything else they told us that they couldnt have luckily guessed.
Also, who ever said anything about 6 unlockables?? The leak was 34 after KP1 is said and done. Even the leaked photo backs that up. 25 base, 6 DLC and 3 unlockables - 34.
So that rules out a Kombat Pack 2 since Ed Boon said there would be thirty something fighters at the end. Another 6 fighters would take the roster to 40. We will know soon enough. There are only two weeks left until launch and he game has gone gold. Inevtiably there will be people who get early copies.
Please stop using trophy list as an argument. It's stupid.
Isn't the point of hidden unlockables to stay hidden? If there are any they are doing very good job hiding them.
Isn't the point of a marketing cycle to keep the roster secret? So why would they tie every character on the roster to a trophy? Those trophies were meant to be secret but it got out.
Cyber Sub-Zero was an secret unlockable character that was never featured in marketing but had a trophy for unlocking him. I am pretty sure if there were unlockable characters they would have a trophy asscociated with them.
Please stop using trophy list as an argument. It's stupid.
Isn't the point of hidden unlockables to stay hidden? If there are any they are doing very good job hiding them.
Isn't the point of a marketing cycle to keep the roster secret? So why would they tie every character on the roster to a trophy? Those trophies were meant to be secret but it got out.
Cyber Sub-Zero was an secret unlockable character that was never featured in marketing but had a trophy for unlocking him. I am pretty sure if there were unlockable characters they would have a trophy asscociated with them.
It's not like it's easy to get to the code or however we got those leaks. It could be that some stuff is still a secret and will stay that way till someone finds out, maybe even after release.
But using trophy list as an argument just because that is how it used to be? Come on. If they really want it to be a secret wouldn't they do anything to make it so? Excluding it from trophy list would be number 1 thing to do to achieve that since it always get either leaked or revealed way before the launch for every single game.
Please stop using trophy list as an argument. It's stupid.
Isn't the point of hidden unlockables to stay hidden? If there are any they are doing very good job hiding them.
Isn't the point of a marketing cycle to keep the roster secret? So why would they tie every character on the roster to a trophy? Those trophies were meant to be secret but it got out.
Cyber Sub-Zero was an secret unlockable character that was never featured in marketing but had a trophy for unlocking him. I am pretty sure if there were unlockable characters they would have a trophy asscociated with them.
Just playing devils advocate...
NRS could have learned from previous leaks that the trophy list is not safe. If they really wanted to keep a secret they would most likely avoid mention on the trophy list.
Just playing devils advocate...
NRS could have learned from previous leaks that the trophy list is not safe. If they really wanted to keep a secret they would most likely avoid mention on the trophy list.
And still have the potential to leak the roster regardless with trophies associated with the other characters?! But those gosh darn secret characters are extra secret now...Sorry I do not believe it. NRS have been doing less secret characters in games as they have gone on because it does not fit in with people's busy lives nowadays.
I feel like... there are way too many people taking bits and pieces of subtle information and speculation and acting like they're conclusive proof in this thread. On both sides of the argument.
We're all just guessing
As I've said many times, I'm taking the 25 characters we know as a given. I'm cautiously hopeful about additional unlockables, but I've appropriately braced myself for the idea they may not exist.
I agree that should they exist, NRS would want to keep them well hidden, and step 1 would be "How have they leaked in the past, and how do we avoid that?" "Oh well yeah, take the useless achievement off the list. That's a no brainer."
I agree that it's also entirely likely, based on the fact that we have no tangible evidence, that they may not exist, and are merely the stuff of speculative fairy tales, just like the Super Unlockables in Deception, or Fujin in MKX.
Haven't we done this song and dance for like 5 or 6 Mortal Kombat games in a row now? Some of ya'll need to dial back the, "AH-HA! THIS PROVES IT!" mentality, and just... go with the flow. Wait and see. None of us know squat. If we did know squat, we wouldn't be arguing about it on a forum. We'd be quietly twiddling our fingers manically like Mr. Burns, waiting out the end of our NDA agreements, watching everyone who doesn't know go crazy.
