for me it is

roster size

relies to much on nostalgia and not enough new charachters to push the story and franchise forward

story line is important to me . lets be honest not perfect and all over the place they need a official set cannon . i love the idea of raiden lui and kitana being evil continue with that

other than those complaints i still love the franchise and yea ill still buy mk 11 but please nrs in mk 12 and beyond

@VenoMark - that is what i was going to say that video games are catered towards guys i get it but i did not want say it then have rude people telling me rude things on the forums (trolling) i get that is is catered to males but in the past yrs more females are buying consoles and hardcore games like mk, etc etc and playing them more, also hair isn't my main focus but they keep changing it mk9 everyone made fun of kitana's hair so for her alt in mkx her hair was shorter then normal, but then sonya's hair in mkx was done her back and then in mk11 the fact it picks up right after mkx or whatever her hair magically got shorter she is in the same outfit since everyone bitches she looks so plain, but nrs has had issues with hair and need to fix it they are using unreal 4 engine and other game companies have used lower engines and their hair is fine i might sound like hair is a big focus for me lol but they took so long with mk11 and this is what they give us

i also just hope they get their old moves back why can't sonya do her flying punch move or her bicycle kick that still bugs me i hate how she's so heavily relying on gadgets and little machine things this is not a upgrade for sonya but a very low grade, can't be cause they can't animate the moves liu got his kick and he does it fine, it's like nrs/ed is cheaping out/being lazy with their characters

The way you have to memorize the inputs for each move to amplify it. It's fine for noobs that only play one Kharacter but for someone that plays everybody it's a HUGE step backwards. Why change it?

Pre determined variation for the pros. Let them create there own.(There is usually a hour or two between rounds. Let them load up there version of the Kharacter there.) People online will try and replicate Sonic Fox's load out creating better play for all.

Kollector's Edition $300 for a Scorpion bust of a mask. Why? I personally think they should capitalize on Shao Kahn as the pre order bonus(locked behind a pay way on disc) I would have rather had a Goro Statue for MKX than Scorpion again. I like Scorpion but enough already!!

Not a fan that this game had the longest development cycle and the thwarting roster is 26 counting Shao Kahn. Sadly this is NRS becoming a $$$ grab. $30 for 4 Mortal Kombat Khracters and 2 Guests vs $60 for 26.(most likely but not confirmed)

Everything else is AWESOME Krushing Blows, Fatal Blow mechanics are a huge improvement!!!

With regards to the roster, I would honesty be perfectly fine with 25 total (so no DLC at all, 25 final roster) IF it has a variety of characters, from different eras (trilogy, 3D), realms, with all kinds of fighting styles, weapons, looks etc. To me it truly is about quality, I mean, nobody is going to use 25 characters, learn their moves and such, let alone 30-40 characters. Given the variations systems, it's already very admirable to go for around 30 with DLC. These characters are very deep and fleshed out so 25 should be more than enough. We're spoiled in the modern days, I get it. But for me I would love if game designers like NRS truly understood this and worked on making every single character feel and look as unique as possible.

For me the way you amplify special moves doesn’t seem intuitive and I kept going for the RT. Hopefully I’ll get used to it if it doesn’t change upon release.

Oh and Sonya doesn’t seem to have her Leg Grab!!! WTF

It seems like the way you currently amplify moves is meant to inspire more people to be character specialists rather than being able to just jump around character select and counter pick. I like the idea but I share everyone else’s concern that it may take a bit of the accessibility away from the series. I’m sure they’re watching feedback closely and I’ve got faith in the end that NRS will do what works best.

Am I the only one whos tired of having Sonya, Cage, Kung Lao, Kitana and the rest over and over again? I need a game so badly without them.

No. I have seen a lot of people expressing their fatigue when it comes to the MK2 characters. Seeing them over and over has becomes anitclimatic and stale. Daanish Syaad said on Twitter that they love the excitement and hype but seeing these overused characters over and over makes me feel the opposite. No wonder Skarlet got the best reaction because no one expected her.

why is everyone bitching so much about the roster?

why are you ok with other fighting games where they have the same players throughout their games plus a few new faces and your ok with it but when it comes to mortal kombat it's OMG WHY IS SONYA IN, WHERE IS FUJIN?, WHY THIS PERSON NOT THAT PERSON. it's a fighting game what makes street fighter, tekken, dead or alive something that is ok to have their originals in all their games, but you are tired of seeing the same faces in mk time after time

sonya - first female, would've been a all male game if they did not add her they change her up in most of the games new look mostly every time
chun li first joined since sf2 and she wears the exactly same outfit since just gotten bigger (a.k.a her thunder thighs)

what about ryu and ken they are the sub and scorp of sf but honestly do you really like these guys cause you think they are cool or do you like them cause of their hype? i for one would rather they be out of the games or not included in the main roster don't care if scorpion is nrs poster boy they don't do anything for the story and they can miss a game or two or never come back

just be happy there is a new mk game no matter what i get no one will be happy ever but really you will hate mk cause its roster is the same most of the time but ok with playing the other games with their roster constantly the same like 90% of ever game released

stop hating on mk roster and if you honestly don't like it then don't buy this game and go play the previous games out there to make you happy

it's been yrs since mkx was released and from that moment till now people still hating on it, now with mk11 you still hate on it you obviously don't like the new faces since a lot of people hate jacqui, you hate ferra/torr ok some like d'vorah and erron but my god if MK was all new faces i bet all of you would be like WHAT THE FUCK THIS MK GAME SUCKS THESE ARE ALL NEW FACES WHERE IS MY FUJIN, WHERE IS RAIN UGH I HATE THIS GAME SO MUCH nrs says they listen but let's face it they put people they like in their games and who is used a lot for their tournaments so face it as of now you will be seeing sonya, kitana, liu, johnny, scorp, raiden, sub and who ever else you hate until ed boon dies from old age and someone else takes over for him

Disagreeing with the roster won't stop me from getting a fighting game, what's wrong with wanting a character from a previous game placed in today's engine? And who mentioned anything about being okay with other fighting game rosters? Last I checked this was a discussion of anything disappointing in the game's reveals so far.

I care more about MK’s roster because I care more about MK.

Needs more Fujin and Havik

This person knows.

A lot of things disappoint me.

Roster of 25 is a joke. Especially if populated with the likes of Sonya, Jax or Kanos and Goros.

Why not characters like Reiko, Havik, Fujin, Sareena, Daegon, Ashrah for a change??

Story with time travel will surely make 0 sense, will age terribly in a few years....I wish they had more imagination.

Plus, Skarlet doesn;t look that good either. She's like an airplane pilot, Amelia Earhart dressed in red. Her spikes fatality isn't that great either.

I find your comment funny because your AV is a portrait of Kenshi - a character who borrows a great deal from Ermac (telekenetic slam, etc.).

Ugh, Sonya Blade again....

BUT it makes sense story wise to have her since the story is 5 minutes after MKX where she's general of the SF and we're going back to the Past too. Ronda voicing her does nothing for me but Sonya did nothing for me anyway....And with Baraka being back and looking hotter than ever I don't even care that much.

@Kitana147

Alright I will try to be non-biased here, here's where I think the roster frustration lies:

Take a hypothetical roster of 25 and make it completely blank. Not a bad base roster right?
Now add in characters who have made it and will make it in a large majority of game with ease:
Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Liu Kang, Sonya Blade, Kano, Johnny Cage, Raiden, Kung Lao, Kitana and Jax.
Everyone minus Jax has been hinted at or revealed in this small list.

Now your roster is at 15 and this isn't like Tekken where the roster is mostly the same legacy characters but it's still a big roster (T7 is currently heading towards 45 I think?) NRS is constantly refreshing the same characters which isn't a bad thing and it's nice for fans of those characters but chances are if you're not a fan of them in one game you wont care as much if they're in the new one with new tricks. I look at Scorpion and see some cool spear moves but I'm not going to play him over a favorite character of mine.

"Okay but they're like SF2 popular so just have them and then update it with more characters as time goes one like Street Fighter does" That's an idea. But Capcom will always support Street Fighter with new content because they don't work on a schedule like NRS. Rather than release a game, do the b game and then follow a pattern of sequels every couple years. They'll do a major update instead. They're still on SFV while we got MKX, Injustice2 and now MK11 in that time.

So now its a four-way argument of who should be in this base roster of 15:
You got your fan favorites who are ALMOST mandatory but not quite (Ermac, Reptile, Noob Saibot, Cyborgs, Mileena)
Then you have lesser fan favorites (Shang Tsung/Quan Chi, Jade, Sindel, Rain, Nightwolf, Stryker, Baraka, Kabal)
Reimagined 3D Characters or characters from that era they want reimagined (Kenshi, Tanya, Bo, Frost, Sareena, Ashrah, Fujin, Havik, Li Mei, Reiko)
New Characters that gained a fanbase (Skarlet, Tremor, Kotal Kahn, Cassie Cage, Dvorah, Takeda, Erron Black)
And last but not least you have to factor the possibility of new characters like Geras making it in the base roster too.

I'd rather have all 40+ of those characters there, I'm not even joking

As far as the roster goes, it seems like people are throwing around three competing demands:

• A large roster, that somehow
• makes every character critically important to the story, while
• leaving out classic characters who have alwaysbeen important to the story in favor of characters who are rarely seen.

You want a large roster? Then you're going to have to accept that some characters are going to only have supporting roles. Want every playable character to be important? Then you'll have a hard time eliminating some of MK's most important people in the process -- unless you really want them to pull another "everybody from the last game died" stunt like they've already done twice.

The MK universe is vast and you can't reasonably get everything you want out of the roster. Personally, I'll be happy if they have a good spread of classic characters just because I like seeing how these characters evolve with the updated gameplay and graphics, and I like seeing the creative new expansions on what the classic characters can do. 4 MKX returnees sounds fair enough, and 4 obscure characters making a comeback is enough to get me excited (2 would be underwhelming but satisfactory for my taste, and we already have one).

As of this writing, there is still plenty of room to go around and I highly doubt that they've revealed the best of their surprises at the first announcement. Chill out, people. Maybe they're going to disappoint you in the end, but if you jump to conclusions now, then you're spending three extra months being disappointed that you don't have to.

As for my actual points of criticism, I'm on board with bringing back the trigger to enhance moves. While I'm a big fan of watching high level play, I'm a hopeless casual myself and I don't have enough hours in a day to git gud enough to memorize all those extra buttons. Especially if Scorpion's spear is going to be dependent on executing extra inputs to work as intended.

Everyone would but it would be an absolute nightmare to balance you're not just looking at one characters moveset anymore you're looking at variations.

I don't envy working at NRS

Not to mention some of them would get benched for guest characters

i agree with this getting rid of classic characters is weird tbh
they have been through so much so by not having them in the game and being replaced by a new character would piss off people (but then again no one is ever happy)

it just annoys me cause i got on here, i go on other forums and it just annoying that all people want to do is hate on the roster. i get everyone has their opinions but like i've mentioned since mkx people still hating on the roster we can bitch and moan about it and make up our top people all we want but let's honestly face it ed/nrs is not really listening to us ok yeah they add people but why couldn't they add more people to mkx like they did with triborg it clearly was not that hard and then they could've added sindel, rain, fujin, sareena maybe even frost

but people keep forgetting or not mentioning it as much as they hate the roster they are having premiere skins, but the odd thing is not a lot of characters in the game fight the same way other than sub and frost having ice power, cassie has the green shadow thing like johnny but they in no way fight that similar

i want to see everyone happy and see their fav character in the game but ed seems to hate characters we love and likes to tease us with having them in cameos then throwing in guest characters most of us do not like or want

anyways i'm pretty sure i will start getting tired/annoyed on how the fatalities end cause i like seeing their little scene they do right now it just seems like eyeballs, face ripping and cutting off heads is their thing but then again they do that in every mk game so my nitpicks will still be on how certain characters look until i have the game in my hands and playing to see what really pisses me off

I've always felt that there is a "mount rushmore" to the MKU.. That being Subzero, Scorpion, Raiden, and Liu Kang. These 4 will probably be in every new mk game til kingdom come. I'd say the second mt rushmore is Sonya, Johnny Cage, Jax.... somedays I think Kitana, other days I feel Kano. Just a random thought. But to the point about "KlassiKs" being stale... the only one that does this for me is Kung Lao. But I say this because I have a Konspiracy Theory! I feel like NRS avoids putting Fujin in their games becuz of Kung Lao. Think about it. Besides the hat throw, Kung Lao's special moves could easily be Fujin's. Diving Kick, weird floating teleport, TORNADO spin. In the 3d era, KL had that gravity-defying 3-hit Kick. Now replace the hat toss with an "air-burst" projectile, perfect base form Fujin. I played the shit out of MK4. I seriously thought that roster would be the new core going forward. I was sadly mistaken. Only Quan Chi was in pretty much every title afterwards.

One more random thought... Mavado > Kabal.. Just throwing that one out there, since the entire interwebs thinks Kabal is konfirmed becuz of his loading screen run.

Long time since I have posted here

Few complaints, but honestly they are minor.

Sub-Zero is my favorite character and I believe his MKX alt was his best look ever. So, seeing this new look in MK11 is...disappointing. Weird for him to not have the clone in ANY variation either considering there are 3. The whole look could be changed if they eliminated the hat though. It just looks awkward.

Now onto the roster. The problem started with MKX. That problem, and you guessed it, is the kombat kids. Sonya, Johnny, Jax, Liu Kang, Kung Lao, and Jax are all mortal characters hence Mortal Kombat. They are defending Earthrealm and that’s absolutely fine. Raiden, Scorpion, and Sub-Zero are the ONLY characters I think deserve an EVERY game status though. Everyone else is expendable besides arguably Liu Kang. Kitana is also one that seems to be in that list of characters who are favorites of NRS rounding out a top 10. These 10 repeating every game honestly wouldn’t be THAT bad to me. MKX added a problem though and it’s those kids.

While Cassie, Jacqui, Takeda, and Kung Jin are not horrible when mixed with Sonya, Johnny, Jax, and Kung Lao they do damn well become repetitive with only Takeda having an original moveset. It all comes down to the animations of it all. When you have a diverse roster of elementals, sorcerers, demons, monsters, and gods then mortals become kinda well bland. Imagine in MKX if you could have given Cassie, Jacqui, Kung Jin, and Takeda’s spots to (and this is random) rain, fujin, havik, tanya, skarlet, or noob saibot. It could have been an infinitely better game because while I understand te argument that the kids were NOT meant to replace their parents it damn sure did seem like they would in the future. Now, we have to deal with Sonya, Kano, Johnny, Jax, Kung Lao and then (POSSIBLY) Cassie, Jacqui, Takeda, and Kung Jin, That’s 9 spots out of a possible 25 which is honestly just unacceptable. I know people argue that Cassie plays NOTHING like either of her parents, but I disagree. I could easily see her being relegated to variations of her mother and father.

Sorry for the long post I relaize that was a lot. It’s as simple as this. Think of popsicles haha. You have every flavor laid out in front of you as a child but then your mom walks up with an icicle and says sorry this is all you can have then proceeds to put away all of those flavored popsicles you wanted. That’s how i felt with MKX’s roster. Hopefully MK11 won’t repeat that.

What they’ve done to Sub-Zero is a huge disappointment for sure. Not happy with the over all Injustice feel/look to the game either. Takes away the MK feel for me personally. To be honest I was more blown away by the MKX reveal. I immediately thought of Injustice when I saw the MK11 reveal and as someone who isn’t really a fan of the injustice series I was a little disappointed.

Regardless I’m still excited to see further reveals and play the game in April. It would take a lot for me to never be excited for a Mortal Kombat game.