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ckl3456789
01/27/2019 01:56 PM (UTC)Edited 01/27/2019 02:04 PM (UTC)
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I’ve always had the impression that Kitana is supposed to appear to be in her late teens to early twenties. Katalin Zamiar, the actress that played Kitana in MK2, was 22. Becky Gable, that played Kitana in UMK3, was 23. Early twenties is the Earthrealm equivalent to Edenia’s 10,000.

Again, this MKX model is how Kitana should look, young beautiful and exotic.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qQGPR

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Masr
01/27/2019 02:08 PM (UTC)Edited 02/08/2019 07:05 PM (UTC)
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MK Gold Kitana is the spitting image of Talisa Soto (it's almost like they scanned her face). This is the only time i recall them being a bit more consistant with the look of her face. But still, a movie is a movie and a game is a game.

Could this be a coincidence? Different timeline different facial look. The Kitana in the opening post and this one may as well be 2 different people in terms of the features.

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FROST4584
01/27/2019 02:57 PM (UTC)
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How disappointing. Kitana has always had this Latin / Spanish look to her since Mortal Kombat 2. Katalin Zamiar is Cuban and Becky Gable is obviously some variation of Latin. Therefore, Kitana should always have this Latin look to her, because that is pretty much how she always looked.

I strike is up with the current writers / "creative" team take liberties in changing characters for the sake of change , instead of progressing character's story lines. Still, I'll wait and see the final game before, I get upset.

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MKPhoenixBlade
01/28/2019 04:02 AM (UTC)
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MK Gold Kitana is the spitting image of Talisa Soto (it's almost like they scanned her face). This is the only time i recall them being a bit more consistant with the look of her face. But still, a movie is a movie and a game is a game.

Could this be a coincidence? Different timeline different facial look. They may as well be 2 different people in terms of the features.

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VenoMark
01/29/2019 05:29 PM (UTC)
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Ability to change race is plausible. This is nothing new in MK. I don't ever remember seeing Kitana look that oriental.

You think that Edenians being afforded the ability to change races is possible?

Other than that, it's not like you can tell what race she is by that screenshots. The blurriness and the angle from which the shot was taken ruin any sense of detail and her whole face looks almost flat as a result.

Why is race such a focal point these days? Can't people just be people without having their ethnicity up for debate? This subject got old two years ago. Now, you're just beating a dead horse.

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01/29/2019 06:17 PM (UTC)Edited 01/29/2019 06:56 PM (UTC)
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Ability to change race is plausible. This is nothing new in MK. I don't ever remember seeing Kitana look that oriental.

You think that Edenians being afforded the ability to change races is possible?

Well, i know he's not Edenian but it would be bogus for (let's say) Kai (who's negro) to be able to turn caucasian but it's ok for Kitana to change? I guess if you're mixed you have a right to it, but on the other hand it's got to suit the right people (apologies if I've offended).

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VenoMark
01/29/2019 09:58 PM (UTC)
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Well, i know he's not Edenian but it would be bogus for (let's say) Kai (who's negro) to be able to turn caucasian but it's ok for Kitana to change? I guess if you're mixed you have a right to it, but on the other hand it's got to suit the right people (apologies if I've offended).

Nah, bro, no offense taken. I've got a thick skin, heh. Considering I've long been a fan of Kai (minus his appearance in Armageddon) and even outside of that consideration, it'd be a little outrageous to turn Kai into a white guy. That'd require a lot of backstory, something like the originally olive-skinned Kratos in the "God of War" series, which, admittedly, could prove interesting but would be an obvious knockoff of a very well-known video game protagonist. I'm not a fan of switching a character's race (or gender), whether it be black to white or white to black (and so on), as in the case of Michael Clarke Duncan's Kingpin in the infamous "Daredevil" movie, even as much as I admired the actor outside of that role.

Kitana's race has no ties to the ethnicities in Earthrealm. She's Edenian. The Edenians have their own distinctive features (as difficult as it may be find consistency in her appearance). Comparing her to the ethnic groups of Earthrealm makes sense to a degree, but to expect her to look like she's of a specific Earthrealm nationality is just ridiculous.

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01/30/2019 02:03 PM (UTC)Edited 01/30/2019 02:11 PM (UTC)
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Well, i know he's not Edenian but it would be bogus for (let's say) Kai (who's negro) to be able to turn caucasian but it's ok for Kitana to change? I guess if you're mixed you have a right to it, but on the other hand it's got to suit the right people (apologies if I've offended).

Kitana's race has no ties to the ethnicities in Earthrealm. She's Edenian. The Edenians have their own distinctive features (as difficult as it may be find consistency in her appearance). Comparing her to the ethnic groups of Earthrealm makes sense to a degree, but to expect her to look like she's of a specific Earthrealm nationality is just ridiculous.na

Kitana CAN only be compared to a specific nationality/ethnicity because it can't really be compared to anything else - I mean, Edenian is a race on its own but it's a human like race and therefore follows the guidelines of ethnicity. How else can you describe a "human" looking race without using the conventional characteristics such as caucasian looking, asian looking, hyspanic looking etc.

The true test - describe the Edenian race to me without using human ethnicity? And what exactly are those "distinctive features" you speak of that could differentiate the Edenians from Earth realm ethnicities?

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VenoMark
01/30/2019 02:32 PM (UTC)Edited 01/30/2019 02:40 PM (UTC)
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Kitana CAN only be compared to a specific nationality/ethnicity because it can't really be compared to anything else - I mean, Edenian is a race on its own but it's a human like race and therefore follows the guidelines of ethnicity. How else can you describe a "human" looking race without using the conventional characteristics such as caucasian looking, asian looking, hyspanic looking etc.

The true test - describe the Edenian race to me without using human ethnicity? And what exactly are those "distinctive features" you speak of that could differentiate the Edenians from Earth realm ethnicities?

I said that comparing the Edenian race to that of an Earthrealmer makes sense to a degree, so let's not misinterpret statements or take them out of context. But, to expect her to look exactly like one specific Earthrealm race is both unrealistic and ignorant.

I never said that I was capable of describing Edenian racial characters and I'm not willing to go back and find any consistencies between characters like Kitana, Sindel, Jade, and Tanya, especially when doing so would require scanning the various titles in which each of these Edenians is featured. If you have the time and the desire to do the research required to accomplish something like that, then have at it. It definitely sounds like an interesting (if not mostly pointless) venture, but nothing that piques my curiosity enough to convince me that it's worth the squandering of my free time.

Now, here's my question: Why do some fans deem it necessary to figure out which Earthrealm race a foreign-born character more closely resembles?

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MKPhoenixBlade
01/31/2019 02:33 AM (UTC)
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Kitana CAN only be compared to a specific nationality/ethnicity because it can't really be compared to anything else - I mean, Edenian is a race on its own but it's a human like race and therefore follows the guidelines of ethnicity. How else can you describe a "human" looking race without using the conventional characteristics such as caucasian looking, asian looking, hyspanic looking etc.

The true test - describe the Edenian race to me without using human ethnicity? And what exactly are those "distinctive features" you speak of that could differentiate the Edenians from Earth realm ethnicities?

Now, here's my question: Why do some fans deem it necessary to figure out which Earthrealm race a foreign-born character more closely resembles?

My answer - Ive already explained this.. Its all we have to describe her looks because Edenian's are not a real race lol. Our only option is to describe, for example Kitana, to only what we can. If someone looks Human like, then its all we can do. Like I said. All Im saying is - YES she's Edenian, but she is Human like, therefore how is it wrong to say she RESEMBLE an ethnicity similar to Earth. Thats like saying Reptile doesnt resemble a Lizard or a snake, hes only a Zaterran. Do you get what Im saying?

Kitana, and Jade are assassins. Maybe they use some kind of magic to change their appearance for infiltration n stuff, but not as drastic as Shang's morphing?

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Nuckelavee
01/31/2019 10:38 AM (UTC)
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I really don't like the ethnicity changes in Mortal Kombat, it doesn't make any sense, keep Kitana caucasian or latina, don't suddenly turn her into a Japanese/Chinese/Asian girl....

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01/31/2019 11:48 AM (UTC)
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I really don't like the ethnicity changes in Mortal Kombat, it doesn't make any sense, keep Kitana caucasian or latina, don't suddenly turn her into a Japanese/Chinese/Asian girl....

I do agree that it'd be nice to see some consistency in the faces of characters who've made repeat appearances in the series. It's kind of ironic that they've failed to accomplish some stability in that regard when you consider that they started the series using actual human beings to portray their characters. I'm sure they could have gotten away with duplicating each actor's face so long as they made a couple of simply changes to certain features. But, I'll deal with the lack of attention to detail in the faces so long as I can enjoy competing with each character in the arena.

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Nuckelavee
01/31/2019 11:51 AM (UTC)
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I really wouldn't like Kitana being an asian girl all of a sudden, I really, REALLY loved her MKX look, one of the better designs in her history and one of the better things that came from that horrid game (MKX)

I don't like the thought of all Edenians suddenly being asians, there are more than enough asian characters in the game from earth realm, no need to suddenly turn the beautiful Edenian elf-like persons into asians as well..

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Masr
01/31/2019 03:08 PM (UTC)Edited 01/31/2019 05:04 PM (UTC)
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Jade anyone?

Tanya is more consistent with the "asian" look or spray tan, than Jade. I don't think this is by choice (or is it?) and it's out of her control. The blessing though is that it can deceive, in her case. If we're breaking this down to a look from a nationality, which i know is wrong, Tanya would be Egyptian. That's just the vibe i get and MK is yet to have a human looking female mummy. The hidden mummified state could be her new but real form (nothing like Ermac in MKX, which is different) which could be a side effect from being suspended from Edenia for her wrongdoings.

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ckl3456789
02/04/2019 01:11 AM (UTC)
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Came across this on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpnGA4Zgb1D/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1fxn6u83luhkc

After looking at her other pictures, I think this Demi Rose girl would make a good model for Kitana.

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02/04/2019 01:49 AM (UTC)Edited 02/04/2019 02:45 AM (UTC)
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ckl3456789

Came across this on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpnGA4Zgb1D/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1fxn6u83luhkc

After looking at her other pictures, I think this Demi Rose girl would make a good model for Kitana.

she's ok but NRS can't scan female faces so well something always bugged me about Kitana's in mkx it was like her head was widen or something it was off to me so i hated using her Royal Variation even with it being how she usually played in the previous game, Mileena oddly had a much prettier face then her even with her teeth and Jacqui had a odd but pretty face then her

with that being said i'm tired of them ruining her damn hair she looked amazing with it long not the stiffness that it was in mk9 but i loved it long, yet so many people made fun of the hair or the graphics or whatever that her tournament outfit in mkx annoyed me that her hair was suddenly shorter and had that band thing at the very bottom

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ErmaSco
02/04/2019 02:38 AM (UTC)
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I agree Mileena had a much prettier face than Kit's in MKX

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ckl3456789
02/04/2019 02:52 AM (UTC)
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Kitana’s tournament costume in MKX was actually the best costume she’s ever had. I just didn’t like her hair in that costume. Her hair was so cool in the primary costume. I think a high braided pony tail would have been good for her revenant costume. For her tournament costume, I think something more similar to Jade’s MKD primary costume hairstyle would have looked better.

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02/04/2019 03:00 AM (UTC)
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Kitana’s tournament costume in MKX was actually the best costume she’s ever had. I just didn’t like her hair in that costume. Her hair was so cool in the primary costume. I think a high braided pony tail would have been good for her revenant costume. For her tournament costume, I think something more similar to Jade’s MKD primary costume hairstyle would have looked better.

that's cause her tournament costume in mkx was her primary from mk9 just with some changes they made her less slutty since she had her top cut differently and longer and she had fabric or a full skirt on instead of just the front flap thing she had on mk9, and like i said so many people called her mk9 primary hair like a stiff hairy dick or hairy tail so of course nrs changed it by chopping it off, it was odd that Lao and Sonya had longer hair then her

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MKPhoenixBlade
03/26/2019 12:22 AM (UTC)
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Yep - They have gone the more asian features for Kitana and I LOVE it! She looks SOOOOO good!!

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03/26/2019 12:29 AM (UTC)
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Yep - They have gone the more asian features for Kitana and I LOVE it! She looks SOOOOO good!!

Well there goes Latina or as I saw her, Arabian, Kitana.

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03/26/2019 11:55 AM (UTC)
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So I guess I’m doing something wrong here, the picture is not showing up in my last post, so I’ll post the link instead. Kitana’s MKX face sculpt is the best she has ever looked and this should be the standard for her face.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qQGPR

Its a shame they couldn’t get it to look that good in the game.

That is BEAUTIFUL! but too Rihanna for my liking. :)

She doesn't look quite Rihanna for the most part.

Howerer, she kind of looks like having some asian roots in her.

asian-ish.

Looks like they actually took kitana asian direction starting from mkx. Even default outfits in mkx giving out some kind of mongolian royalty.

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03/26/2019 12:21 PM (UTC)
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Yep - They have gone the more asian features for Kitana and I LOVE it! She looks SOOOOO good!!

Well there goes Latina or as I saw her, Arabian, Kitana.

Mongols invaded Arab empires one after another. So maybe she is arabian from some perspective.

Hypothetically she could be some kind of Arabian royalty in specific circumstances. Near east had people that actually have strong asian influence in apperance in some cases.

Kitana asian look very fitting to her in my opinion.

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03/26/2019 01:26 PM (UTC)
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Mongols invaded Arab empires one after another. So maybe she is arabian from some perspective.

Hypothetically she could be some kind of Arabian royalty in specific circumstances. Near east had people that actually have strong asian influence in apperance in some cases.

Kitana asian look very fitting to her in my opinion.

That would only make sense if she was known to be from that part of Earthrealm. But she isn't. She's Edenian - a fantasy group of human-like beings from a different realm.

I don't think it has ever been explicitly stated that Edenians descend from, or are inspired by, any particular Earth nation or tribe.

I understand it's annoying that they keep changing the ethnicity of the Edenian characters - however, due to there being no consistency or established lore... Edenians (or Kitana in particular) don't have to be a specific one.

I do wish they would pick one and stick to it, and like everyone else I have my own preferences. This new design possibly been the best I've seen her - at least face/body type. While her outfit looks good, it's not her best, and as I've posted in another thread it looks too similar to Skarlet's.

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