Reasoning why the sex has been toned down in MK11
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05/01/2019 11:33 AM EST

The reason this is 19 pages and counting is because it's obviously a hot topic with both sides of the argument. You're just as guilty of it so I don't know why you're implying it's a one side whine fest. It's also still running because there's people on here literally going "Okay, I'm done. I won't reply" and then proceed to reply anyways.

It's also still up because while this is obviously a "controversial" topic, it's also an interesting one to see both sides of the argument. If we can keep the stupid name calling out of it and act like adults it won't be much of a mess now would it? This applies to me too.

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05/01/2019 11:47 AM EST
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You're just as guilty of it so I don't know why you're implying it's a one side whine fest.

And what exactly, have I whined about? I've debated, I've discussed, but I haven't whined about anything...

I don't whine about video game costumes. As you said, let's be adults- that's a good idea. Let's start there.

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If debating is just "There is no discussion. You guys are incels. You have no argument. Why isn't this closed? Go to Pornhub. You guys are sad" then yeah you're debating real hard. I'm on mobile so I'm not gonna put the effort in right now to go quote for quote. I'm just saying everyone needs to chill the hell out with the shit talking. Stop throwing tantrums. This goes for everyone.

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05/01/2019 11:57 AM EST
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If debating is just "There is no discussion. You guys are incels. You have no argument. Why isn't this closed? Go to Pornhub. You guys are sad" then yeah you're debating real hard. I'm on mobile so I'm not gonna put the effort in right now to go quote for quote. I'm just saying everyone needs to chill the hell out with the shit talking. Stop throwing tantrums. This goes for everyone.

I never called anyone "incels". Do not attribute that to me.

And I sure hope it does go for EVERYONE and not just one side. <3

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05/01/2019 03:08 PM EST
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You're just as guilty of it so I don't know why you're implying it's a one side whine fest.

Only one side is whining. The other side is ridiculing.

Is it any better? I guess not, but I'm being honest. Given the subject, I'd rather be the ridiculer than whiner.

But you're right, the thread would stop if one side quits. I'm not gonna lie, though. As I've stated before, seeing what else these folks say have to say has become amusing for me. I'll just have to pry myself from it all.

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05/01/2019 09:08 PM EST

The 43% sales down are funny... The entire industry is slow compared to the 2015 and these sales numbers don't take into account the digital which is bigger than 2015.

Don't worry in 2 to 3 months pornhub and like sites will have MK11 models nude in various sexual.positions for your hungry peeps liking.

MK had never had better looking females...

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The 43% sales down are funny... The entire industry is slow compared to the 2015 and these sales numbers don't take into account the digital which is bigger than 2015.

Don't worry in 2 to 3 months pornhub and like sites will have MK11 models nude in various sexual.positions for your hungry peeps liking.

MK had never had better looking females...

I beg to differ. These are far from the best the females ever looked. Even if we're ignoring the fact they are all covered up, there's very little variation between each of their outfits. People like to be critical of the MK9 outfits for the same thing, but they seem to be ignoring it here, now that they no longer look like "strippers", as they say. And characters like Sonya and Sheeva have never looked worse, facial-wise. Then there's the whole Cyber Frost thing.

At least the MK9 outfits were pleasing to the eye. But really, they should have just kept the outfits here in the same style as MKX. That offered the most variety, and fans aren't so split up on those, like with MK9 and MK11. In short, just give us options between covering them up, and having them revealing. Obviously, you can't please everyone, but if they had options like that, both sides can be happy, for the most part.

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1) Chiefly, the repetition of the word "censorship" does not actually constitute censorship as such. Y'all can scream "censorship" til the cows come home, but selecting a different artistic direction for the game is not a suppression of free speech. It's not remotely illegal, and NRS is under no threat from any legal or political institution. Decrying "censorship" is a conspiratorial shorthand that evokes the dreaded feminist authoritarian (or, the bad mommy) in the hyperactive imaginations of anti-SJWs. If a company decides to go a different direction with its marketing campaign, for any number of reasons, this is not "censorship." To wit: if the women of MK11 looked like the women of MK9, NRS would suffer no legal penalties, nor would they even lose money. Any manufactured outrage against scantly clad female bodies would be free marketing for the company. Being a trending topic on social media is a financial boon, no matter how negative the coverage (at least in most corporate cases). Do you have any idea how much money Gillette pulled in from its recent controversial commercial? Capitalism has a funny way of making money off of outrage...almost as if this outrage is completely insincere and manufactured for profit! Wow!

Yes, it is censorship; even if you want to deny reality; censorship is the action that any person makes to control or suppress the behavior of others, usually in moral arguments, or any person who oversees the manners or morals of others. And it is undeniable pressure that make feminists like Anita Sarkeesian or activists journalists infesting all media, preaching their feminist moralizing trying to control or suppress behavior and imposing their morality on others, with their concepts ideological-moral like "objectification of female characters", "sexualized women", etc, pressure that ends with developers trying to get "points of respect" or "points of morality" from feminists; trying to please them so they do not criticize them using their moralizing. And with creative bosses that censor inside their teams to try to please these feminists and activist journalists, that is, doing SELF-CENSORSHIP. What is stupid and disrespectful with the clients themselves who are the fans. The fans are not interested in politically correct garbage or political ideologies in video games.

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2) MK has never been realistic, obviously. But the YouTube video confuses what is "realistic," as in, how do the mechanics of the game bend or break the scientific laws of our universe, with "artistic realism," which is an aesthetic category and not reducible to mechanics. In other words, gameplay and art direction exist on two separate axes. Changes to one axis (as in, giving Skarlet a "desert storm" outfit) will not necessarily require changes to the other axis (Skarlet's "desert storm" outfit does not tamp down the brutality of the violence in this game). Aesthetics and gameplay aren't completely separated from one another - I don't mean to suggest that. However, when the YouTuber asks "how come fatalities, but not boobs?" he is deliberately confusing apples and oranges. That is to say, having female character designs rooted in realism is not hypocritical or contrary to the spirit of MK: this artistic style runs no interference with the usual levels of violence and gore one expects from an MK title. And again: MK has never been bloodier or more gruesome!

Let's talk about "artistic realism" as you call it, your whole excuse revolves around the fact that it is "realistic" to cover women in MK11, but what about covering men? If it is so "realistic" to cover women why it is not "realistic" to cover men as well?

Again, let's talk about "artistic realism" How "realistic" is a shirtless Kano or a Kano with a pirate cap on MK11?

Again, let's talk about "artistic realism", How "realistic" is a Skarlet with a Cold War suit? Not to mention that all of Skarlet's censored costumes are against the very fact that Skarlet needs to be as naked as possible so she can absorb the blood of her enemies and become stronger, an all-covered Skarlet is as stupid as a Superman with a Kriptonite necklace.

I could go on forever ...

But with your SELECTIVE REALISM, everything that involves all-covered women is fine.
Your excuse of selective realism is stupidly ARBITRARY.

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3) The much-quoted Beran passage has been dissected plenty, but again, allow me to reproduce it here. The YouTuber didn't offer a close reading of it (how telling!), he just let it flash in the background of the screen for a few seconds. “Our character lead, Brendan George, has been a breath of fresh air of just introducing new ideas. Our design is just getting more mature and respectful. You’re not going to wear a bikini to a fight. You’re not going to be showing so much skin. I think it’s just what the game is about: You’re going in to fight for your life, and you’re not going to be wearing such scantily clad items. "I’m sure that will disappoint some fans. We don’t have bathing suit fighters, and I think that’s fine. If people are disappointed, I don’t regret making that change by any means." Note the emphasis in his speech on design, and what these artistic choices are meant to convey to the players/consumers. He's not saying: "it's offensive that women could wear bikinis to the fight, we at NRS are taking a brave stand against the injustice of bikini fighters, because we believe women should be covered up before their faces are ripped off!" Rather, his words are gesturing toward tone and mood: "You're going in to fight for your life" is not necessarily about "realistic fantasy armor," it's meant to convey the feeling of dramatic intensity, of high pressure stakes, of nail-biting tension, wherein one false step during kombat can lead to your gory demise. Stripper outfits, while fun, distract from or diminish that ambiance of dread and tension. It's harder to sustain tension when kombatants look like disposable sex dolls: you care less what happens to them on the screen if they're already too cartoonish or garish in their designs. You can choose to read into his words, claiming that he's a tool of the SJWs, or you could bother to actually understand him on the sentence-level. The art direction changed on female characters because MK is trying to find the right balance between the goofy and the serious, between what is "unrealistic" and the longstanding gaming trend toward realism (and in order for MK to compete on the market, it must consider these trends!). All MK games in the series fall somewhere on these two axes of goofy and serious, some titles being more goofy and some being more serious, but they all fall differently, and MK11 continues that tradition, rather than breaking from it, as so many on here claim.

you wrote more than 25 lines and did not say anything

"Stripper outfits, while fun, distract from or diminish that ambiance of dread and tension." (It's funny that you do not talk about " male strippers outfits" in MK11).

Pirate caps or Skarlets with Cold War costumes, totally absurd things, do not "distract or diminish that atmosphere of fear and tension" BECAUSE SELECTIVE REALISM

Again
But with your SELECTIVE REALISM, everything that involves all-covered women is fine.
Your excuse of selective realism is stupidly ARBITRARY.

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4) The comparisons to UFC or the WWE are seriously misguided, and again, confuse apples and oranges. Mortal Kombat is a high fantasy/horror/sci-fi adventure series, presenting a hodgepodge mixture of tropes and aesthetics that are not reducible to any one recognizable genre or style. The attire of professional female fighters cannot be levied as some mandate for stripping MK's women down to booty shorts and sports bras. Last I checked, there is not a single UFC female fighter in MK's roster! Ergo, these women will look and behave differently when it comes to dressing in battle! You cannot argue that Mortal Kombat should never be realistic, and then in the same breath, demand that Mortal Kombat must draw some equivalency between an extraterrestrial 10,000 female assassin-warrior princess and Trish-flippin'-Stratus. If Earthrealm picks a UFC female fighter as a new chosen one, I have no doubt that NRS would design the character with her career choice in mind! And for the record, as a lifelong Kitana fan, I do not wish to see her wearing some female pro-wrestler costume because, and let me say this slowly for you now, she is not a pro-wrestler.

"There is not a single UFC female fighter in MK's roster!"
The same goes for, for example, Skarlet is not a Soviet agent of the Cold War or Kano is not a pirate of the eighteenth century that crosses the 7 seas.

Again
But with your SELECTIVE REALISM, everything that involves all-covered women is fine.
Your excuse of selective realism is stupidly ARBITRARY.

eroslove
5) It is a huge logical leap, and it's based on 0 empirical evidence, to argue that changes to visual battle damage on character models must come from an aversion to showing Sonya's underboob hanging out of her ripped jacket. The much more reasonable, Occam's razor, explanation is that incorporating highly detailed battle damage on all skins would stretch the available memory on the game, impeding performance, they're probably a huge time investment to animate and draw, and cuts had to be made. Blood splatters are a lot easier, and take up way less space, to incorporate. Is it even possible for anti-SJWs to conceive there might be other, perfectly plausible explanations behind world phenomena that don't affirm and support the paranoid conspiracy-theory world in which they reside? At this point, I highly doubt it! No, everything, no matter how minor, must be an interlocking piece of the feminist nightmare jigsaw puzzle. Graphical limitations on games still exist, no matter how afraid of feminists you may be!

this is too silly

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6) Which leads me to my final point. I find it remarkable that the anti-SJW people, who so loathed and seethed at Sarkeesian for daring to suggest that patriarchal attitudes might inform or influence character designs, now are absolutely squawking and balking like headless chickens because one game had the nerve to put female paramilitary officers in...female paramilitary gear. Congratulations, anti-SJWs! You have fully become the thing you hated so much: everything is a matriarchal conspiracy, no other possible or reasonable explanations for simple design choices exist anymore, and you have now manufactured a culture of fake outrage and oppression of which you hope to never end. Admit it: you LOVE that NRS slapped a cloak on Jade's head. How else would you be able to feel so outraged and oppressed?

"...you LOVE that NRS slapped a cloak on Jade's head. How else would you be able to feel so outraged and oppressed?..."
The same exposes you, because it seems to be a projection in others of your own feelings as a feminist activist.

The fans do not want all this feminist stupidity that is gangrene the video games with SJW ideologies. The fans only want to buy their games as the CUSTOMERS that they are and relax playing, they do not want political garbage in their videogames. The fans wish all this feminist crap and SJW would never have happened.

The fans legitimately claim as CUSTOMERS that they are so that the product they are buying is not contaminated or censored by feminist ideologies or other SJW.

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Yeah, I get some people are against the fanservice, but enough with the "realism" excuse, please. Almost nothing about Mortal Kombat is realistic. We're talking about a game where opponents shrug off attacks that would easily be fatal to anyone in real life, and characters that canonically come back from death repeatedly.

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I'm not going to take the time for another back-and-forth, when you barely bothered to respond to my arguments before mischaracterizing them or blatantly misunderstanding my points. I'll part with a warning, and a recommendation.

You've been fed a diet of Jordan Peterson/Sargon of Akkad/right-wing youtube soundbites, and there's seemingly nothing you encounter that you cannot incorporate into this "us vs. the cultural marxists" division. Unfortunately, this is a conspiracy theory, with deep historical roots. I strongly urge everyone who might not be aware of the historical use of this term to please click the wikipedia link I posted, and please for the love of Shao Kahn do your own research. The term "Cultural Marxism" has many synonyms, one of which is Cultural Bolshevism, though you might know it by another neologism called "Postmodern Neo-Marxism" or often just "Postmodernism." Here is a great video which explains this term, by the marvelous HBomberguy.

SUB-ZERO The First knows what he's doing when he drops this term in a discussion about cleavage in Mortal Kombat. It's not an accident that a lot of the anti-SJWs who've posted in this topic single out the "Muslim" attires of these women (though, for the record, there's absolutely nothing inherently Islamic about Jade or Skarlet's designs, this is straight-up fear mongering). Moreover, he's parroting Fox News talking points about the "liberal media," just invented the existence of mysterious "Cultural Marxist NGOs" without providing any sources or facts (this is the apex of a conspiracy theory - shady cloaked moneyed interests secretly controlling Hollywood, hmm...where have we heard that before?), and he still cannot empirically prove that MK received a mandate from the culture gods to distance their designs from MK9. The best he can say, and say over and over again, that he just feels this to be self-evident.

Well, facts don't care about your feelings, buddy. I don't want you to live in such a hopelessly divided, fear-based world, but if that's where you gotta be to feel comfortable, then there's nothing I or anyone else can say or do to drag you out of that mindset. I do hope the people reading this discussion understand that the reason this topic has 17 pages and counting has little to do with character design in Mortal Kombat, and everything to do with a generation of people being spoonfed an increasingly hostile perception of the world by far-right, reactionary, and counterrevolutionary figureheads on youtube, from which most of these anti-SJW talking points derive. It's a warped perception, deeply Manichean and extremist at its core, and quite frankly exhausting to debate.

I've said what I said. Enjoy playing Mortal Kombat 11!

And your sources are a wikipedia article that is being discussed and a YouTube video of a guy who speaks against straw men, that nobody has ever spoken to here.

Actually what some call "Cultural Marxism" is the ideological work of the Marxist theorists who came after Marx.
Marx had a prophecy that said that Capitalism was going to collapse, that it was an irremediable step of history and this should happen in the industrialized countries.

Capitalism did not collapse in the industrialized countries and against all Marxist prognosis, the Marxist revolution only happened in Czarist Russia.

The Marxist ideologues that came after Marx, which is why they are called Post-Marxists as well. They began to wonder why the revolution did not happen as Marx said.

These theorists like the Frankfurt School, who devised "The Critical Theory"which is the theory of criticizing, what is criticized? The Culture, they used psychology also and basically say that the revolution did not happen because CULTURE PREVENTS REVOLUTION, THEN CHANGE THE CULTURE FOR THAT THE REVOLUTION OCCURS.

To this we could also add Antonio Gramsci, a Marxist ideologist who talks about the need to have CULTURAL HEGEMONY, that is to say, to control all the media or as he calls them "ideological apparatuses of the State", that is schools, universities, media, cultural media such as books, movies, magazines, etc. Gramsci was an Italian journalist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony

https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/periodicals/theoretical-review/1982301.htm

https://www.powercube.net/other-forms-of-power/gramsci-and-hegemony/

Later, in the 60s, various groups of "oppressed minorities" emerged that began to use all this theoretically, what is called the New Left, in fact the "Father of the New Left" is an ideologist of the Frankfurt School, Herbert Marcuse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left

And in fact also Marcuse wrote "Repressive Tolerance" that basically what he says is that tolerance to all ideas is repressive for his political sector "The oppressed" and therefore we must censor everything that does not agree with the ideology of "the oppressed" (Quite convenient for the New Left to censor who does not agree with their postulates)

https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/pubs/60spubs/65repressivetolerance.htm

Basically these neo-Marxists or post-Marxists or cultural Marxists, etc; they leave aside the "Worker" as a subject of revolution, to use the "oppressed minorities" as they supposedly are: women, homosexuals, non-white people such as blacks, etc. Then they permanently try to prove by means of mere ideology what oppressed they are supposed to be, these are the supposed "studies"; such as "gender studies", "race studies", etc.
They use in these assumptions "studies" post-structuralist philosophers, postmodernists, etc.

By ceasing to use the "Worker" as a subject of revolution and using the so-called "oppressed minorities", they change the narrative, that is, oppression is not based on material economic factors as Marx says, but on the supposed "oppression" It's because "culture" then you have to change the "culture" and change it by censoring and controlling everything according to your own ideology or moral. And then we have an Anita Sarkeesian, the activist journalists, identity politics, and all the SJW who want everything be according to their moral, even violating human rights as the FREE SPEECH.

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Crying FREE SPEECH is the biggest misuse/misunderstanding about Free Speech. It's to protect people from the wrath of the rulers/politicians when you point out their mistakes/bad policies/tyrany/morally n ethically wrong behaviour. It DOES NOT let you say/do/depict anything, and everything.

This is starting to sound like a Fire Emblem topic crying about the waifu petting minigames getting removed. YOU are the one writing more than 20 lines and saying nothing. It's all a topic shifting dance around the singular fact you want to see nekkid ladies.

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Crying FREE SPEECH is the biggest misuse/misunderstanding about Free Speech. It's to protect people from the wrath of the rulers/politicians when you point out their mistakes/bad policies/tyrany/morally n ethically wrong behaviour. It DOES NOT let you say/do/depict anything, and everything.

This is starting to sound like a Fire Emblem topic crying about the waifu petting minigames getting removed. YOU are the one writing more than 20 lines and saying nothing. It's all a topic shifting dance around the singular fact you want to see nekkid ladies.

Ka-Tra

Do you want to censor people who do not think like you?
Do you want people who do not think like you to be quiet?

Are these all your arguments?

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I'm sorry... I've seen this acronym used since MK9... what does SJW stand for?

And why do people claim there isn't a single MMA (erroneously referred to by UFC) fighter in MK11's roster when.... THERE ARE TWO...

1. Sonya Blade is voiced by UFC veteran and former champion Ronda Rousey

2. Cassie Cage, in the comics of MKX and I believe in her game story, IS A MMA FIGHTER!!! By the way, UFC fighter Felice Herig back in 2015 claimed Cassie Cage was inspired by her.

And those are the ones we know about. Obviously if they can have martial arts masters like they did in MK1 with Daniel Pesina, whose martial arts affilation wasn't heavily promoted or known then, who's to say the other actors aren't MMA fighters or, gasp, actual stuntwomen!

News flash: If you join the military nowadays you are taught a lot of styles related to MMA. The only reason you don't see active military fight MMA is due to the risks of an injury ruining their careers and I'm sure its illegal for them to. So who's to say Jacqui isn't an MMA fighter.

I mean, c'mon, they had to learn to fight somehow. Even if they don't fight MMA they could be practitioners in a variety of styles. Johnny Cage pretty much is a kickboxer, Liu Kang had another discipline.

UFC is the name of a fighting promotion NOT the name of the sport which is MMA. It was also known as NHB or No Holds Barred and even Freestyle, in a sense, before the term MMA became popularized.

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Ronda Rousey is taking heat because she stated her politically incorrect opinion in relation to transgenders competing in MMA. She'll undoubtedly take heat for dropping facts on feminists who think women are underpaid (cuz sexism) in their chosen field. Since the start of the year, I've been doing my damnedest to avoid political debates because individuals on the left side of the fence don't seem to know what a debate is, instead electing to chuck arguments built around straw men and/or ad hominem attacks my way. But, I've found that it's difficult to avoid everything in the political spectrum, especially given the palpable biases of the vast majority of all mainstream media outlets, Hollywood, and now the video game industry.

To make it clear from the outset, I don't mind some of the costumes in MK11. Kitana and Jade look great, but characters like Skarlet, Cassie, and Jacqui have dull, uninspired appearances that possess no clear sense of direction aside from the muting of their sexuality. This series has never been degraded to a level of sexuality that a franchise like "Dead or Alive" has, but it's never been a series known for adhering to censorship, either. That WAS the case until the development of this most recent installment.

Aside from the double standard of male/female skin coverage, the only consistent issue I've had with MK11 is that the men in MK11 have been portrayed as ineffectual fools while the women are dominating. Without spoiling any story-related details, there's one particular scene in which Cassie and her "team" take part in a battle and no one outside of Cassie takes a single shot at the enemy. Besides that, the only part of story mode that really caused any level of concern was Kotal Kahn being a hapless and impotent mess of a ruler, the only power dynamic in his character being his significant other. Kotal is an embarrassment of a ruler and I have no clue how he got to be in a position of power given how inept he is when not relying entirely on others, most of whom stab him in the back as soon as the opportunity presents itself. Because of this, I practically pined for Shao Kahn to win.

I'm not getting too deep into this discussion because I don't have the time or the desire to be a part of a conversation that has both sides talking down to one another. People are allowed to have their own opinions and they're allowed to initiate discussions based on those opinions. Some are going to take things personally because they can't handle the expression of opposing views. I, for one, will not take the bait. Instead, I'll state my opinion and if someone approaches me with a viewpoint that is both mature and intelligible, then I may reply. Until then, I'll continue to live my life without letting laughable political talking points (like video game censorship) get me riled up.

One thing is obvious: There is a clear-cut double standard in that the men have been allowed to retain their sexuality in revealing attire while the women have been stifled.

That is all.

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In case anyone wanted to see how a real life babablity looks- they should just take a stroll through this thread.

*giggles*

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In case anyone wanted to see how a real life babablity looks- they should just take a stroll through this thread.

*giggles*

And this is why nobody takes you seriously.

Shao Kahn did nothing wrong
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ProfesserAhnka

In case anyone wanted to see how a real life babablity looks- they should just take a stroll through this thread.

*giggles*

And this is why nobody takes you seriously.

It's a joke, dear- an attempt at some levity. I encourage no one to take me seriously. <3

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And this is why nobody takes you seriously.

I just want to point out the irony of this statement.

The reason Ahnka, among others, has been clowning so much is because he doesn't take them seriously. There really isn't a point to be made in that regard.

I think you just gave yourself, as well as the rest of us, another reason to leave this whole thing alone.

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05/04/2019 11:30 PM EST

Wonder if these claims have any relation to this topic existing:

https://variety.com/2019/gaming/features/netherrealm-studio-warner-bros-games-toxic-1203204728/

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RE: Reasoning why the sex has been toned down in MK11
05/05/2019 10:20 AM EST
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Wonder if these claims have any relation to this topic existing:

https://variety.com/2019/gaming/features/netherrealm-studio-warner-bros-games-toxic-1203204728/

There's no correlation between that "alleged" toxic work environment and you not getting skimpy outfits. You're just bitter at NRS and want to use this as a way to keep pelting stones at them.

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RE: Reasoning why the sex has been toned down in MK11
05/06/2019 10:56 AM EST
05/07/2019 08:09 AM EST

Has the haters converted to dead or alive yet?

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RE: Reasoning why the sex has been toned down in MK11
05/07/2019 10:21 AM EST
gorostilllives

Wonder if these claims have any relation to this topic existing:

https://variety.com/2019/gaming/features/netherrealm-studio-warner-bros-games-toxic-1203204728/

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RE: Reasoning why the sex has been toned down in MK11
05/18/2019 07:43 PM EST
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It has nothing to do with the costumes.

It's due to the still ongoing complaints of mandatory online connectivity, server failure, and microtransactions.

You know, real issues.

Of course, just like EA said that failure of Battlefield 5 had nothing to do with getting fully woke, but instead because there was no battle-royal mode. ROFL
The prime example of being fully in denial.

Dude, all the news reports and the hundreds of thousands of social media comments and posts point to the issues I stated.

No one other than the handful of you whiny babies are complaining about the costumes. Hell, the majority of refunds are due to players not being able to access the game due to the servers constantly crashing.

If you'd take a moment to get your head out of your rear end and see something other than your own skewed point of view, you'd know this.

Of course, that's why in Steam they have censored the negative reviews about the double standard of female outfits and have censored all the topics about the rejection of this same double standard, the same in almost all forums.

What is especially serious is that Steam is cheating on this fraudulent treatment to the clients hiding the reviews that Steam or NRS do not want to be known.

"THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN LOCKED"

Steam user Ben had a great thread with an intelligent argument to boot, but it was also locked. He had a rather lengthy missive to NetherRealm Studios criticizing them for double standards and sex-negative view on female sexuality titled “Attactive characters are NOT a bad thing. Stop pandering to social justice.” Near the end of his very well argued and detailed post, Ben wrote...

“[...] If you’re gonna talk♥♥♥♥♥♥about female skimpy outfits whilst not changing a damn thing about the male ones, that makes you a hypocrite by definition.

“STOP trying to ban attractive things. STOP turning cool western products into ♥♥♥♥ing regressive censored garbage because insecure SJW radicalists are too busy complaining instead of hitting the god damn gym.

“I dare you to poll your players and ask them if they are okay with attractive characters or not. I am confident the majority of MK players dont mind.

“Why? Because there is NOTHING wrong with it. There is NOTHING... wrong with being sexy. No matter what crazy SJW*s say.”

https://steamcommunity.com/app/976310/discussions/0/1679190184058606404/?ctp=11

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RE: Reasoning why the sex has been toned down in MK11
05/19/2019 12:11 PM EST
mahne876
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It has nothing to do with the costumes.

It's due to the still ongoing complaints of mandatory online connectivity, server failure, and microtransactions.

You know, real issues.

Of course, just like EA said that failure of Battlefield 5 had nothing to do with getting fully woke, but instead because there was no battle-royal mode. ROFL
The prime example of being fully in denial.

Dude, all the news reports and the hundreds of thousands of social media comments and posts point to the issues I stated.

No one other than the handful of you whiny babies are complaining about the costumes. Hell, the majority of refunds are due to players not being able to access the game due to the servers constantly crashing.

If you'd take a moment to get your head out of your rear end and see something other than your own skewed point of view, you'd know this.

Of course, that's why in Steam they have censored the negative reviews about the double standard of female outfits and have censored all the topics about the rejection of this same double standard, the same in almost all forums.

What is especially serious is that Steam is cheating on this fraudulent treatment to the clients hiding the reviews that Steam or NRS do not want to be known.

"THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN LOCKED"

Steam user Ben had a great thread with an intelligent argument to boot, but it was also locked. He had a rather lengthy missive to NetherRealm Studios criticizing them for double standards and sex-negative view on female sexuality titled “Attactive characters are NOT a bad thing. Stop pandering to social justice.” Near the end of his very well argued and detailed post, Ben wrote...

“[...] If you’re gonna talk♥♥♥♥♥♥about female skimpy outfits whilst not changing a damn thing about the male ones, that makes you a hypocrite by definition.

“STOP trying to ban attractive things. STOP turning cool western products into ♥♥♥♥ing regressive censored garbage because insecure SJW radicalists are too busy complaining instead of hitting the god damn gym.

“I dare you to poll your players and ask them if they are okay with attractive characters or not. I am confident the majority of MK players dont mind.

“Why? Because there is NOTHING wrong with it. There is NOTHING... wrong with being sexy. No matter what crazy SJW*s say.”

https://steamcommunity.com/app/976310/discussions/0/1679190184058606404/?ctp=11

I agree completely. This stigma against giving men some female eyecandy is something I'll never understand. Japan has never had a problem with it, and rightfully so.

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