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12/12/2010 04:06 PM (UTC)
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Excited for kratos after thinking about it a bit.

I do hope however, that the roster will end up complete after DLC in terms of getting out hands on Rain, the Mystery female, Sheeva, Jade etc.. because with Kratos and all the recent leaks, it doesnt look like all of them will launch (all as in chars from MKT) and some will have to be DLC.

interesting..
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12/12/2010 04:09 PM (UTC)
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I must say, going to sleep, you miss the best conversations.

Here's what I think:

Okay, I understand, majority of you are starting to hate this game more than just disliking it. Giving up on the game already? Come on... So there's one measly guest character, for PS3! Is that a crime? If they're going to do a guest character for the Xbox, are you all going to ramble incoherently about how Master Chef might ruin the game?

So Kratos is a game whore, big deal, GoW is a really awesome game and I'm not going to deny that because I love Greek Mythology as well as the entire point to that game. So Kratos makes more game appearances, who cares.

We're all forgetting that he's not in the story mode, he's only here for funzies so exactly why are you all complaining about it when you can do the one thing and... omigosh... not play as him? That's all you have to do, like Chrome said, MK fans don't deserve anything because this constant complaining shows that these kinds of fans do not deserve anything special added to the game. We all really don't if every single ounce of news is going to receive this amount of hatred.

I'm taking a look at this as something, as I stated before, a gimmick to make more fans get into Mortal Kombat. That's all I really see with this guest character popping in. I'd prefer if this game had no guest characters due to the fact that we just came from a game that gave us a good number of them, but honestly, it's not bothering me to a point where i'm literally ranting about how I'm going to quit the series.

They've trashed Tomb Raider up so badly after Angel of Darkness yet you don't see me giving up on the series. I mean, I've played Legend and it honestly sucked, but you're not going to get me to stop playing because they messed up the story big time by still including Natla in the story when she was finished since game one.

Really, he's a guest character probably added as a gimmick. Since MK is getting back to it's dark and gritty gory self, I can understand why they're adding Kratos in. But this kind of complaining just proves that we all don't deserve a little treat here or there.

And as stated before, maybe Kratos will give us more than just a character, he'll bring us maybe a new arena. That's not going to hurt anyone will it? It's not going to hurt me, I'll tell you that. I'm more interested to actually play as this character the more I see nothing but constant complaints. Really, i want to really see how this character is going to turn out. I wouldn't mind if the combos he uses in his game appear in this game, I really wouldn't mind seeing that.

So, my wrists are hurting, I'm going to stop with this post for now.
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12/12/2010 04:14 PM (UTC)
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LeoBrZ81 Wrote:
fedegita Wrote:
LeoBrZ81 Wrote:
I'm seriously nauseated at the sight of these two ninjas. I can't stand looking at them anymore it's not even funny.


Yeah, the more NRS pushes these guys in our faces the more derivative and boring they become.

Bring us some more Raiden vs. Kahn as far as I'm concerned, that's a rivalry worth getting excited about. Actually, that would have been a much better choice for this teaser - God vs. God vs. Emperor God


I completely agree. The fact that we got absolutely no gameplay is a shit stain in itself, but the least they could've done with this generic-ass trailer is show us some other interesting icons of the series. At least we've only seen Khan and Raiden once - I would've liked to see them in action again. Whoever's dreaming up these trailers and promotions needs to stop being a thickheaded little bitch and expand his mind a little.

"Oh, let's make a new, really awesome trailer to promote the game at the VGAs. any ideas?"
"=B ADUUURRRR SO SCURPION AND SUBZERO ARE FIGHTING, AND THEN--"

I'm sure that's how all these meetings start. Uneventful-ass day, I can't believe I looked so forward to this manure.





Seriously, they are MK's two most recognizable characters. We didn't see Sonya or Raiden. boo hoo. Of course they are going to use the two most recognizable characters to bring in an equally recognizable guest character. Doesn't mean I support this, but....what did you expect??

Anyways, I really want to see what XiahouDun84 has to say...
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~Crow~
12/12/2010 04:24 PM (UTC)
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Ion3008 Wrote:
~Crow~ Wrote:
The MK team reads this site for a fact and this is not what you should be whining about. It's a minor issue; you don't want Kratos "soiling" your "pure MK"? Then just don't select him. It isn't very difficult. You won't have to see Kratos if you don't select him. There are just much better than we as a community could do, and this portrays us in a negative light. There is very little constructive criticism here and too much "DAMN SOLD OUT AGAIN!" posting.



Alright Crow..I call all kinds of bullshit there. So Kratos being in the game is a minor issue While Sonya and Kitana's clothing is OMG THEY'RE RUINING THE CHARACTERS!!!!!

And yes, Let's also throw in the 30 page Sonya thread complaining about Heels, Shirts and being Properly Dressed just for giggles because that threw us in a negative light. Couple that with Khan's voice, his outfit, Kitana's win pose and her Costume and We're complete Retards.

Call me crazy I just thought this would be called Mortal Kombat not Mortal Kombat + Kratos. I didn't know then but I know now.

And please oh please let's not get holy here.Damn near all Gaming Communities are pushy whiny and demanding.
What should we whine about? Please, just give us spoiled unpleaseable MKfans a target.

I'll give you the sold out argument though. The Kratos exclusive is meant to lure the 13-year kids who loved God of War and Get them to play Mortal Kombat, There's also a chance that those fans become Mortal Kombat fans as well. I just want them to pay for Kratos as DLC so the NRS gets even Moar Money wink

As for Kratos taking a spot on the roster that roster might as well be a placeholder cuz my list here has 27 characters without including Goro Or Khan as playable. As for who they could've worked on instead of Kratos the game only has a handful of Characters that either could make the game should make the game or are popular enough for the team to give us anyway like Meat.

And don't say Meat's not popular He is the real Poster boy for Mortal kombat not Scorpion.


You're way off base. Those are complaints about things that might change and things maybe we should give some feedback on. Character design and characters are hardly the same thing. Kratos will be in the game, the end. Sonya and Kitana could have respectable alternate costumes if we as a community stand up and say that's what we want. That is something that does require feedback, and again it isn't just whining and moaning, I personally form my arguments so they aren't offensive to the team. They're also devoid of any unnecessary capitalization and punctuation; if you want to be taken seriously it's a good idea to at least sound serious.

Again, I don't get the "instead of Kratos" argument. We've known for a while there will be DLC of some sort, most likely playable characters since that will readily sell. This has been known since at least E3; surprisingly that was also when Jaffe said Ed told him about Kratos originally. So Kratos has been planned for quite some time now, the better part of our own knowledge of this game, as well as DLC. You cannot look at it as if they would have put a MK character in if Kratos wasn't there; you have to imagine they would have put in no one instead of Kratos, because that is very likely the case.
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12/12/2010 04:38 PM (UTC)
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That was a pretty cool trailer. Shao Kahn's voice seemed to fit really well in this trailer. The arena looked really nice and the fighting was on point. The Kratos ending could've done a little better tough.

I dont understand all the stressing by the MK fans over Kratos, he is just a bonus character. He doesn't has a role in the story. And he is a badass character, easily the most MKísh character on the PS3 too.

And with Kratos being confirmed during midweek, it was obvious that the character reveal was going to be him. People expecting otherwise were being really naive.

That said, Scorpion and Sub Zero are the faces of MK. But it is really time to give other characters some shine too. Whether it's trailers or vignettes. Let people get to know the universe and characters in all their glory. Wouldn't be a bad move.

How dare you state I'm off base. If I'm not right then the world just doesn't make sense.
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prettyboycj100
12/12/2010 05:21 PM (UTC)
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SEGAmaniac7 Wrote:
Im dissapointed in people, Im all fucing hyped, come here and wtf?

complaints? whining? seriously?

Why cant people be happy and satisfied with these reveals for once, every time someone has to be negative and point out the bad things.
This was a badass reveal, And a badass trailer what is the issue?

Kratos will not ruin Mortal Kombat he will be a great addition and add to the experience, and hes not taking the spot of another MK character, he is a GUEST character, and if you dont like him dont play as him, easy.

No need for negativity.



luca needs to reads this fuckin post he thinks game was just for him its made for everybody plus he thinks having kratos in will take mk out of the tournament which it wont evo already contacted nrs
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12/12/2010 05:28 PM (UTC)
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Cross187 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
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I'm a BIG and I mean BIG TM fan. Tho I don't think that Sweet Tooth could ever fit into the Mk world. If you could please give some feed on how/why he would fit that would be cool grin


Well fighting experience aside. How he could fit? My opinions...

- Manipulative Character, (Similar) to Shang Tsung, prevented death after his failure in MK1. Needles fooled Calypso in that Vile of Holy Water to stop the burn. And Decapitated him good!

- Insane Landlord (Similar) to Shao Kahn who is bent on destruction and taking over the realms for himself. Needles is like this in TMHO when he grants corrupt wishes and makes an alliance with Marcus forming Tower Tooth.

- Pain Relief (Similar) to Scorpion to the degree that he has a Flaming head. So I doubt pain would come easy.

- Weapons Expert, not really similar to anyone. But the dude has shit mounted to his Ice cream truck. Obviously he knows a thing or two about what Works.

That's all I got.



That's alot more then I could come up with hahaha. Maybe worth some work he could have worked.


I know I am quoting this from a few pages back but since I got offline...

Sweet Tooth (move-wise) could fit in several ways.

If you look at the MKA approach where everyone had the same special moves just with slightly different visual designs.... Give him a flaming icecream cone projectile. or use his special move from TM4 where it is the 3 heads that come and surround someone. The TM4 one would remind me of the cloud noob saibot had in MKT. Or Hell, just have him throw the blade he is always holding.

I could see Sweet Tooth with a pretty bad ass throw as well. idk what exactly it would be and I'll get back to you on it but since he is a pretty big dude he could probably toss anyone around easily.

As for a fighting style idk... wrestling? All I know is that it can't be something fast due to his size but i am sure there are plenty of styles out there he could use.Judo maybe?

And well fatalities..... For humor. he could just run someone over with the Ice Cream Truck. Maybe his otherone could involve a much more brutal way on how he killed Calypso in his Twisted Metal Black Ending.
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12/12/2010 05:29 PM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
This is just so disappointing.

I just don't even know what to say. After all the talk about returning to roots and delivering a classic MK experience. I honestly thought this was a joke up until now. Guess I'll just have to accept that Mortal Kombat's sold out, they're beyond redemption for me.

They split the fan base, promoted console wars, and disregarded the tournament scene. Just kills my enthusiasm for this game.

how does adding kratos AS A GUEST CHARACTER WHO WILL NOT TAKE UP ANY ORIGINAL SLOTS disregard the tournament scene ed boon already confirmed that mk1-3 characters will return look at the gt jax reveal video he slips up and say all the characters from mk1-3 will return or sumthing THE FUCKIN ROSTER WAS ALREADY DECIDED b4 they kratos was even talked about bein in the game hector already said in an earlier interview he new all the characters in the game kratos will have NO EFFECT ON THE TOURNY SECENE WAT SO EVER
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12/12/2010 05:34 PM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
lol, Soul Calibur was at Evo like 2 or 3 years, and the only one where it actually had console exclusive characters was like 2003. SC4 made their characters available to all consoles.

after a couple of months mayb even a year but guess wat tho HAVIN DARTH VADER AS AN GUEST CHARACTER DIDNT DESTORY SC TOURNY SECENE ITS STILL PLAYED IN TOURNYS TODAY SC4 ANYWAY SO TELL HOW WILL HAVIN KRATOS IN MK DESTORY MKS TOURNY SECENE PLZZ TELL ME HOW
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12/12/2010 05:35 PM (UTC)
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BecomingDeath13 Wrote:
It won't be Master Chief... Bungie Highly guard their story aspect of their games and want nothing tarnishing it. That's why DOA didn't get Master Chief, but a "different" spartan.

See,why can't NRS be like that instead of letting in pasty-looking motherfuckers who smolder with generic rage?

Oh,and for those people (now,I won't name any names,but it starts with "Professer" and ends in "Ahnka") who are for some incomprehensible reason morally outraged about this,there's that word again. "Tarnish."
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12/12/2010 05:42 PM (UTC)
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so u speak for everybody or the majority of the fans u dont no wat they want all u no is wats on mko mk has fans all over the world so i guess u speak for them to sumbody like that kratos is like me sum dont and others could careless so u cant speak for everybody unless u went to every mk fan and asked for yourself
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@ rayden4u2335
The only problem with that comparison is that the audience in that video does not represent the Mortal Kombat community and MKO does. If I was sitting in the Dr. Phil show, I'd have to clap and cheer for whatever passes by. Its just the way it works.
I base my statement on the fact that this website is a representative sample of the target market that WB is aiming for. And lets be honest; the majority of the (Mortal Kombat) fans didn't want Kratos in.
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12/12/2010 05:49 PM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
~Crow~ Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
lol, Soul Calibur was at Evo like 2 or 3 years, and the only one where it actually had console exclusive characters was like 2003. SC4 made their characters available to all consoles.


Doesn't change the fact SC2 (the one with the 3 varying exclusives) was still at EVO. Kratos isn't going to hurt MK's chance, at least not in my opinion. The quality of the game is still the most important factor, and that won't change due to Kratos.


I'd put money that Kratos will either be banned or the Xbox version will be hosted.

Also, EVO wasn't nearly as big of a deal in 2003 as it is now.!Quote
wats make u think he will b banned in order to ban a character from tournys is that character has to b severely overpowered broken has other things that characters dont does tremendous damage has infinite combo
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12/12/2010 05:52 PM (UTC)
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SEGAmaniac7 Wrote:
QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
YAWN....

And Kratos just sucks. Lame design, uninspiring weapons/abilities, eye-rolling personality....

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Are you trying to troll?

Thats how Kratos always looked, hes always had those weapons. And you have not seen his game-play so you cant judge his weapons/abilites

You saw like a 10 second appearance from him how can you judge his personality.


look at luca hes already sayin that there goin to ban kratos from tournys with even seeing any gameplay hell the game hasnt even cum out yet and hes makin accusations
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Garlador
12/12/2010 05:54 PM (UTC)
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My personal opinion is I don't want Kratos in.

Some people say he "fits" for this MK game, but I say there are other characters that would fit this MK game better...

... like other actual MK characters. More MK characters would totally fit a Mortal Kombat game better than Kratos. I mean, we only have 60+ fighters we could tap into.

Sareena, Kenshi, Fujin, Sheeva, Rain, etc. all would be preferable to Kratos, thank you very much.
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EmperorKahn
12/12/2010 05:59 PM (UTC)
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the team does read the forums. here is what hans lo just wrote on his twitter.
“Diehard fans fear not, we're not forgetting about u. More character & arena announcements will be coming. Have a little faith & patience. :)”
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EdenianNinja
12/12/2010 06:00 PM (UTC)
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HELP!

Who the heck is this Krato's guy and why the heck is he in this Mortal Kombat game?

That trailer was awesome, but I would have rather seen a Mortal Kombat character take the spot light. Who cares about Kratos!? I've never heard of the guy! I thought it was Quan Chi for a sec


SMH
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prettyboycj100
12/12/2010 06:06 PM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
Gahhhh, I really hope Mortal Kombat grows a damn identity and doesn't turn into Soul Calibur. I would say I hope they learn to take their game seriously and fuck off with console exclusive characters, but I don't want guest characters in my version so...

who cares wat u want this game is for all mk fans not just u yea i understand that u want a pure authentic mk game who doesnt but if dont like this dont buy the game or get 360 version which doesnt have any guest characters but most likely if it doesnt the ps3 version of mk will b played at tournys bcuz of the extra character so your stuck between a rock and a hard place
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12/12/2010 06:09 PM (UTC)
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prettyboycj100 Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
Gahhhh, I really hope Mortal Kombat grows a damn identity and doesn't turn into Soul Calibur. I would say I hope they learn to take their game seriously and fuck off with console exclusive characters, but I don't want guest characters in my version so...

who cares wat u want this game is for all mk fans not just u yea i understand that u want a pure authentic mk game who doesnt but if dont like this dont buy the game or get 360 version which doesnt have any guest characters but most likely if it doesnt the ps3 version of mk will b played at tournys bcuz of the extra character so your stuck between a rock and a hard place


I don't know which is harder.... To believe your little 9 year old arrogance or reading your posts.
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GodlyShinnok
12/12/2010 06:31 PM (UTC)
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Nephrite Wrote:
The worst thing of all... Scorpion and Sub-Zero again! Fuck it. It couldn't have been Shao Kahn himself versus Kratos, or Raiden versus Kratos... No, it had to be Scorpion and Sub-Zero with Scorpion coming on top again.

Fuck you Scorpion, not even Mokap annoys me as much as you do.



True that.
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NoobSaibot5
12/12/2010 06:36 PM (UTC)
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I'm let down to see him included only because it gives off the impression to other gamers that the Mortal Kombat characters and it's mythology are not able to stand on their own two feet without guest fighters like Kratos.

It's almost as if they are saying: "We're going to draw back in all of our old fans by remaking MK1-3, but for the rest of the world who doesnt have a clue about our franchise, our history, or anything about us at all, we'll include Kratos in there too so you have a familiar face who'll make things more modern and cooler".

I mean, the whole reason people voted for Mortal Kombat on Spiked TV was to see a character like Jade, Baraka, or even Sheeva announced and revealed for the game...a warrior from within the franchise back in their former glory. To reveal a fighter who's not actually from our franchise has caused the one thing I've feared most since I heard the Kratos rumour: The hysteria caused by his inclusion means he's becoming more and more popular and hyped about than the warriors who are actually from the game itself.

You can't promise us a nostalgic, remade version of the series and then confirm an outside, unrelated warrior to the fans after they voted to see these nostalgic characters. Of course some fans feel betrayed, and they have every right to be if they got their hopes up for nothing.

I dont think I would have minded Kratos if he was last minute announced and included, after the finalised Roster was revealed and a fair share of the MK warriors had a moment in the spotlight with Vignettes and combo videos, because at least that way we'd have had wave upon wave of solid information and attention focused on the characters which make Mortal Kombat so interesting. I could be happy with a guest character being included if the characters within the MK franchise demanded the spotlight while the guests took the back seat, but already it's been proven this is not the case.

Kratos has been the buzz of the week, people have not stopped talking about him for a while now and knowing the NRS staff he'll be likely flaunted off in some upcoming video's showing his attacks and xray moves, which will prolong the attention on him. And the more attention he gets, the less attention the likes of Sonya, Kano, Baraka, Goro, Sindel or even Reptile will get. My ultimate fear is that characters who were the foundations of this series, who were childhood favourites to a lot of fans out there, will be completely ignored to flaunt Kratos off to the new generation of gamer, and that all of Mortal Kombat's credibility and history will be sold out completely just to draw in some new fans.

In all honesty, with the way fans are reacting, it looks like a lot of people feel this is already starting to become the case, and it's depressing to think a game I grew up with would sell it's own characters and history short just to be appealing to some 13-17 year old kids.

I personally couldn't give a fuck about God of War, I've never played it and I dont think I ever will after hearing that "K" word so many times in the space of a week. But I'm prepared to completely look over this if the attention goes solely back to Mortal Kombat and we can see better promotions of the characters and features that actually makes Mortal Kombat memorable, so much so that it's almost completely forgotten that Kratos is even in this game.

No more drips and drops of information, if MK needs to be whored off to the media to sell to the masses, at least spread information about the franchise itself and the characters that have shaped it rather than guest warriors. As a guest character he's already caused more of a stir than some of the MK series most popular warrior's, and that's just a bad reflection on our franchise to outside gamers.
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XiahouDun84
12/12/2010 06:57 PM (UTC)
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Meh. Whatever.


Although, I do have to say seeing Kratos piss all over the big nostalgia boner makes me smile.

Cue the sad trombone.
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12/12/2010 07:05 PM (UTC)
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Kratos is possibly dlc people chiilll out.
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12/12/2010 07:07 PM (UTC)
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EmperorKahn Wrote:
the team does read the forums. here is what hans lo just wrote on his twitter.
“Diehard fans fear not, we're not forgetting about u. More character & arena announcements will be coming. Have a little faith & patience. :)”


Yeah diehard fans. But what about 360 fans? As I said before, it's not the fact Kratos is in that matters, the problem is they are favoring one console over the other when they have fans on BOTH consoles. Someone should retweet that back to them.. I wish I had a twitter account just to do that. smile
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12/12/2010 07:11 PM (UTC)
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HyperDrive Wrote:
EmperorKahn Wrote:
the team does read the forums. here is what hans lo just wrote on his twitter.
“Diehard fans fear not, we're not forgetting about u. More character & arena announcements will be coming. Have a little faith & patience. :)”


Yeah diehard fans. But what about 360 fans? As I said before, it's not the fact Kratos is in that matters, the problem is they are favoring one console over the other when they have fans on BOTH consoles. Someone should retweet that back to them.. I wish I had a twitter account just to do that. smile


Some people actually don't want the 360 version to have a guest character so it can remain a virgin, I agree with them.
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