MK DA-A characters Where were they during MK1 thread
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posted07/07/2010 02:18 AM (UTC)by
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I've wanted to start a thread like this for a long time, but I always forget.

With the next MK being an MK1-3 reboot, it's worth asking where the 31 post MK3 characters were during the events of the first three games, and which ones could logically be integrated into the story.


MK4:

Kai: I always assume that most "student" characters are in their early 20s. Kai was imo probably in his late teens as of MK1, and probably of no consequence.

Shinnok: Stuck in the Netherealm of course...worked behind the scenes, but any physical presence in the MK reboot would be premature.

Reiko: Reiko is one of the characters that would definitely have an explainable presence in MK (2011). He's presumably been serving Shao Kahn for centuries, and it'd make very little sense for Kahn to not have one of his top generals involved in MK2 and MK3.

Jarek: Being an unworthy thug, I imagine Jarek's soul was sucked up by Shao Kahn during the invasion. There's very little of interest that could be done with Jarek in MK1-3.

Tanya: Tanya, like Reiko, actually makes a lot of sense for the first 3 games. She's an edenian who is thousands of years old, and wears similar garments to the three palatte swap female ninjas. It'd make sense to assume that Tanya served along side Kitana, Mileena, and Jade as an assassin.

Fujin: Fujin was presumably guarding the amulet as of MK1-3. It'd be interesting to see how he reacted to the invasion, but as a whole, not entirely necessary.

Quan Chi: I'm going to be controversial and say that Quan chi has no place in the first 3 MKs. He can appear in story mode, or in characters endings, but it'd seem out of character for him to serve as anything other than Noob Saibot's go to guy in the invasion.

Meat: Could very well work in the storyline, but I don't really see the point of his inclusion.

MK5:

Kenshi: Kenshi is the one post MK3 character who imo, has the best chance of being in MK 2011. He's of age (probably mid 30s in MKDA and thus mid 20s as of MK1). Like Reiko and Tanya, it almost doesn't make sense that he wouldn't be involved in MK3, but unlike those characters, Kenshi is almost universally loved. If non MK1-3 character is making it, it's Kenshi.

Mavado and Hsu Hao: Both characters are of age (both probably in their late 20s when the original mk tournament happened and 30s during deadly alliance) and both would have a logical place in the story (I can't imagine the red dragon just suddenly started looking for kano in MKDA), but I also don't think either character is popular enough to make it.

Moloch and Drahmin: Both of these oni have persumably been in the Netherealm for a long time, with no escape. They could theoretically escape during MK3, the same way Scorpion escaped....but I don't see this happening, as both characters have had sort of a mixed reaction with fans.

Bo Rai Cho: Even though several people hate Bo, he does have a strong fan base, and storyline reason to appear in a reboot of the first MK trilogy. I would love to see him return, but I'm going to say he will only appear in story mode and in certain characters endings.

Li Mei: generally in mortal kombat, if a character is from a world other than earth, i assume they are centuries old. This might not be the case with Li mei. Given that she is shown as niave, and inexperienced, I'm going to say that like Kai, Frost, Kobra and Kira, she's too young to have been involved in the first 3 MKs in anyway.

Nitara: Nitara is persumably hundreds of years old, being a non-earthrealm character. Her realm was merged with outworld long ago, and I imagine during the first 3 games she was looking for a way to split Vatreus from Outworld. The only game I could see her involved in is MK3, maybe trying to use some of the earth warriors to seperate her realm from outworld.

Frost: Like Kai, I assume that Frost as of her first appearance, is quite young..I'd put her age at between 18-25 in MKDA. That would make Frost between 8 and 15 during the first MK tournament, and most likely unable to compete.

Mokap: Don't even feel the need to explain this; he won't be in the game, let's leave it at that.

Blaze: In the first 3 MKs, Blaze is guarding Onaga's egg, as he has been for probably hundreds of years. I could see him making an appearance based on his background character status from MK2, but I doubt it.

MKD:

Ashrah: Possibly the only MKD character to have a chance of appearing. MKD's konquest shows she's been on a holy mission for a long time. Perhaps during Kahn's botched invasion of the Netherealm, Ashrah escaped trying to slay Scorpion. Other than that, I don't see her being involved, as the first MK Trilogy is about Earthrealm vs. Outworld (and all the realms that have been merged into Outworld)

Shujinko: Shujinko's storyline is such a clusterfuck given that in konquest we literally see him interact with every single MK character. I'm going to go ahead and say that Shujinko was as of Deception, just released from 25 years in prison in Seido. Thus I don't see him having any role in MK 2011.

Hotaru, Drahmin, Darrius and Dairou: I imagine the whole orderrealm/ chaosrealm storyline is too wrapped up in itself to bother with the invasion of earthrealm. i don't see any of these characters appearing in MK 2011.

Kobra and Kira: same thing as Frost; I can't imagine either were adults yet when the MK1 tournament occured, and thus both are probably a non-issue.

Onaga: Like Shinnok, there's no reason to show Onaga. It would blow a potential villain for sequels.


MKA:

Taven: Asleep and waiting for the signal from Blaze, Taven will likely have no impact on the new MK game.

Daegon: Unlike his brother, Daegon is highly involved in the fight for the realms for the entirety of the series. He created the Red Dragon to look for Blaze, presumably hundreds of years ago. He's also struck a deal with the fallen Elder God, Shinnok, further integrating him into the actual fabric of MK.

Like his brother though, Daegon had sort of a mixed reaction, and I don't see either son of Delia showing up in MK 2011.
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TheSoulOfErmac
07/03/2010 03:55 PM (UTC)
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Very well thought out post. I agree with practically all the points you've made about the post MK3 characters.

However more of a technicality, you put Drahmin in the place of Havik. No big deal I still got it.

ErmacMk5 Wrote:

Hotaru, Drahmin, Darrius and Dairou: I imagine the whole orderrealm/ chaosrealm storyline is too wrapped up in itself to bother with the invasion of earthrealm. i don't see any of these characters appearing in MK 2011.



Overall good read.
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Garlador
07/03/2010 04:27 PM (UTC)
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You forgot one character, and one that I think matters.

Sareena.

She was heavily involved in events before MK1 in MK: Mythologies, had her physical form destroyed, was banished to the netherrealm and tortured, managed to escape to earth, and wandered around until she stumbled upon Sub-Zero during the course of MK:Deadly Alliance.

Given her strong ties to Quan Chi and both Sub-Zeros, it's not unreasonable to assume she'll have some sort of presence, especially given that the elder Sub-Zero will be in the game.
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XiahouDun84
07/03/2010 04:31 PM (UTC)
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According to Armageddon, Reiko joined Shao Kahn after Shinnok's invasion. Reiko should be serving in the Netherealm.

Seeing as it was pointed out Tanya was an Edenian ambassador's daughter, I really have trouble seeing her being affiliated with Shao Kahn at this time. I also think it goes against her character...seeing as she's supposed to be a cowardly and somewhat spoiled person.

Sareena should be damned in the 5th Plane of the Netherealm being tortured for betraying Shinnok & Quan Chi during Mythologies. Drahmin should be there too, being as he was one of the chief torturors of the realm. He may even have been the one torturing Sareena.

According to Havik & Hotaru's Deception bios, they spent a great deal of time in Outworld. Hotaru claimed he was defending Lei Chen from Tarakatans for a long time, and Havik just causes general trouble-making.
Though, they don't give specific time frames.
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07/03/2010 05:13 PM (UTC)
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I actually feel of all the post-MK3 characters, Quan Chi deserves some good attention in this game, not only because he was technically around since before the events of MK1, but also because he has become entangled in many fan favorite storylines. Back when MK1 came out, the developers had no idea that Sub-Zero and Scorpion would end up being two of the franchise's biggest poster boys. Now that they know this and the game being made as a fan service, I would say it is pretty likely Quan Chi would be present in the storyline and maybe even play an important role in some sub-plots since he is entangled in the Sub-Zeros' and Scorpion's storylines, it is likely they give this attention in the new game since it is supposed to have a deep story mode. This makes sense to me since they claim it will be a storyline full of depth, which would leave room to address the sub-plots of Sub-Zero and Scorpion, being that they are fan favorites. I feel this is a good chance for the developers and writers to finallty clear up the mess of whether or not Scorpion's MK2 vow is canon or not and how that will play out in the rest of the series. With the inclusion of Quan Chi in all of these elements, I feel it would be a great experience. I wouldn't even count out Quan Chi being a playable character...but who knows...definitley DLC.

Good read man, like what you had to say about where they are and their relevance to the Earthrealm struggle. Guess we will see how it all plays out come March.
When it comes to Kenshi,I think he would fit the time line.

I believe he was blinded prior to mk 1,Shang Tsung was simply too busy during the other games with Outworld.

But if he does appear he will have to change a little. Ermac was not freed untill after mk3,so kenshi would not know tk. So they would have to come up with cool sword specials for Kenshi.

The tk was not why people liked him (hopefully) so his character should get him through.
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07/03/2010 07:56 PM (UTC)
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Hsu Hao: He helped Sonya and Jax form the OIA while being a spy for the Red Dragon.
Nitara: Searching all over Outworld for the Vaeternus orb.

Mokap Man: Helping JC make his movies.

That's all I could think of.
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07/03/2010 08:39 PM (UTC)
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Now, let's see... I will only mention those I disagree with the main post. The rest I agree with.

MK4:

Kai: I see Kai as being the same age as Liu Kang and Kung Lao, but perhaps he was just not ready to fight alongside them. However, I could see him be present along his shaolin brothers.

Reiko: He would be part of the Brotherhood of the Shadows in Netherrealm, preparing for the coming of Shinnok.

Tanya: I have always seen Tanya as a sorceress instead of an assassin. Her garments would be explained as being those of an Edenian along with the other female Edenians.

Fujin: He would be present, but since Raiden is 'in charge' of preparing the Earthrealmers for Mortal Kombat, I believe he would just stay behind the scenes and watch.

Quan Chi: He, along with Reiko, would prepare for Shinnok's coming.

MKDA:

Kenshi: He would be trapped in the maze after having been blinded, because of Shang Tsung's treachery. At this time he would be learning how to harness his sword's gift of telekinesis and find his way out into freedom.

Moloch and Drahmin: Moloch and Drahmin didn't find their way out of the Netherrealm before MKDA. They fled through the portal which Quan Chi opened post-MK4.

Bo Rai Cho: He would definately be present, but in Earthrealm, training apprentices, as it is shown in MKD's Konquest. So he wouldn't be present at the tournament itself.

Li Mei: She would at this time around be a slave of Shao Kahn along with the rest of the Outworldians, maybe too young to be able to do anything really.

Nitara: She would be searching for the orb to free her realm from the merging with Outworld... She might be present, but maybe not interested in the whole going-ons between Earthrealm and Outworld.

MKD:

Ashrah: I believe she found the kriss some time after Shinnok's demise in MK4. I might be wrong, but that is my theory. And therefore she would be with the rest of the Brotherhood of the Shadows, preparing for Shinnok's coming around MK1.

And as go for Sareena, she would be fleeing Shinnok's agents and try to find a way out of the Netherrealm.
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07/03/2010 08:44 PM (UTC)
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Good topic.

I have a strong gut feeling that the team is going to try and integrate some aspects of the new games with the old. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Kenshi or Bo Rai Cho as playable characters, either in the main game or as DLC.

Kenshi just missed joining the first tournament right? There's no reason why Raiden couldn't alter that by notifying him or transporting him to the island in time for MK1. How that would help in preventing Armageddon, I have no idea, but it would be interesting to see him in the MK1-3 time line nonetheless.

Bo Rai Cho is someone who they could easily include in the early time line in terms of story. The problem is more with appearance and his comical nature. I'm sure they could find a way for him to fit in, if they really wanted him in the game.

Those are the two that make the most sense in terms of the story that we already have. You have to remember that things are going to be changed. Whether these changes are major or minor, remains to be seen. One that we already do know is that Lui Kang doesn't win MK1-4. I don't know if that means he wins one title, or none at all, but that's pretty significant. Including the new characters in a way that makes sense, would be a relatively easy task since all bets are off in this game.

I know I'm probably the only one who wants to see this, but I'd really like to see Hsu Hao in this game one one way or another. Apparently he had been working along side Jax for a while before he turned on him in Deadly Alliance. Something interesting could be done with that situation and with Hsu Hao, but I'm aware that most fans hate the character. An appearance in the story mode, could help set up for a future appearance in a sequel, but I get the sense that the MK team has no plans of trying to improve him and would rather just forget about him.

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07/03/2010 10:40 PM (UTC)
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WomenOfMK Wrote:
I know I'm probably the only one who wants to see this, but I'd really like to see Hsu Hao in this game one one way or another. Apparently he had been working along side Jax for a while before he turned on him in Deadly Alliance. Something interesting could be done with that situation and with Hsu Hao, but I'm aware that most fans hate the character. An appearance in the story mode, could help set up for a future appearance in a sequel, but I get the sense that the MK team has no plans of trying to improve him and would rather just forget about him.



Actually, I'd like to see Hsu Hao get a cameo working for the Special Forces too. He doesn't have to be playable, but he's definitely a member of Sonya and Jax's team during this timeframe.

The same could be said of a scene of Jarek and maskless Kabal hanging out with Kano before MK1 starts.
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07/03/2010 11:53 PM (UTC)
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Nitara:

I think during this period(MK1-3); Nitara was probably still looking for a way to separate her realm from Outworld, therefore she probably was being aid by someone or she was manipulating people for her own good. Or maybe she was the one being manipulated(by Shao Kahn or any other person in high power) in order to get help for her realm.
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07/04/2010 02:06 AM (UTC)
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ErmacMk5 Wrote:


Reiko: Reiko is one of the characters that would definitely have an explainable presence in MK (2011). He's presumably been serving Shao Kahn for centuries, and it'd make very little sense for Kahn to not have one of his top generals involved in MK2 and MK3.

Kenshi: Kenshi is the one post MK3 character who imo, has the best chance of being in MK 2011. He's of age (probably mid 30s in MKDA and thus mid 20s as of MK1). Like Reiko and Tanya, it almost doesn't make sense that he wouldn't be involved in MK3, but unlike those characters, Kenshi is almost universally loved. If non MK1-3 character is making it, it's Kenshi.


Yeah, I want Reiko in and that's reason enough.

Kenshi would be different though. He could still see and wouldn't know telekinesis.
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07/04/2010 02:07 AM (UTC)
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Kenshi went blind before MK1, Shang was still an old man when he tricked him.

He didn't master his psychic powers until after MK3 or 4 when he joined the Special Forces, went on assignment to Outworld, and met Ermac, though. That much is true.
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Thanks redman for the sig!

07/04/2010 03:19 AM (UTC)
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Belokk was busy being rejected by Midway and Boon. Maybe Raiden can change all of that. And while he's at it, perhaps he can keep his name spelled Rayden.
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07/04/2010 03:27 AM (UTC)
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ErmacMk5 Wrote:

Shujinko: Shujinko's storyline is such a clusterfuck given that in konquest we literally see him interact with every single MK character. I'm going to go ahead and say that Shujinko was as of Deception, just released from 25 years in prison in Seido. Thus I don't see him having any role in MK 2011.


But, he COULDN'T have been in prison for 25 years. He was forced by Damashi to leave Earthrealm just shortly before MK1's Tournament started just after sending Kenshi along to the boat (which I assume he misses). The events between MK1 and MKD wouldn't be 20 years. It was 10 years, if I'm not mistaken. If we ignore (or move the DA related events from his conquest mode to after his imprisonment, and have him in Lei Chen for different reasons) some slight time issues, and make the grey haired Shujinko in his 50s instead of in his 40s (I say the game's use of 27 years passed at that point could have been a mistake), things flow nicely.

We do know for certainly that he was heading to the MK tournament to fight when Damashi sent him along...Then he fought Raiden at the portal, at the start of MK1's period...when Raiden got the message from his future self.

Shujinko would fit perfectly in this game.

And his name is spelled Raiden (as in the Arcade games) Because it's Japanese. The pronunciation differs, but the point stands.
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07/04/2010 03:48 AM (UTC)
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Reiko
He was a Brother of Shadow - he was just chilling in the Netherrealm.

Jarek
An active member of the Black Dragon this whole time. His MKA card says that shortly after Kano's "death" was when he left for Edenia. Since it says EDENIA and not OUTWORLD, and given that Kano indeed almost died during MK3 when Sonya tossed him off that building, I guess directly after MK3 was when he made the transfer from Earth to Edenia.

Tanya
She was the daughter of Edenia's ambassador, and since Edenia was a part of Outworld, I'm guessing that Tanya was under Shao Kahn's rule this entire time...but not as a fighter. Since she's a diplomat herself, probably as some kind of politician.

Kai
He was wandering the Earth learning all that he could about fighting and about being a Shaolin warrior.

Shinnok
Well, as we now know, he and Shao Kahn actually had some kind of alliance. They would often trade soldiers off to lend a help to eachother. Shinnok, at this time, was preparing Sindel's soul for corruption so that Kahn could enter the Earth. It seems as though Kahn is on his conquest in order to prepare the realms for Shinnok's return. Shinnok, of course, doesn't trust Kahn entirely and that's why he has Noob and Mileena up in his ranks - not just to help him in Earth's conquest, but to make sure he's down and out so that when Shinnok comes out he doesn't have any competition.

Quan Chi
WHOA - as we now know, Chi has actually been in the background this entire time. He was the one who resurrected Scorpion for MK1.

Bo Rai Cho
Well, as we know, it was Cho who trained Liu Kang in preparation for the Mortal Kombat tournament. So, he just chilled and waited. Then, once he heard Kang won, he went back to Outworld...where he remained the entire time.

Li Mei
....uh...in Outworld, I guess, being a simple village girl.

Kenshi
According to Deception Konquest, Kenshi was actually on his way to board the Nethership to Shang Tsung's island so he could compete. But, well...I guess he never made it? The ship left without him? Since then, Kenshi's just been spying on Tsung the whole time - actively keeping an eye on him.

Mavado
Waiting in the background as Hsu Hao did the job he asked him to. He just kinda sat back, watched, and the Red Dragon just did what they had to (all the while searching for Blaze).

Nitara
...uh....in Outworld, I guess, being a vampire. Of course, every now and then, she makes trips to Earth to suck some blood.

Drahmin and Moloch
rotting away in the Netherealm, torturing and eating whoever they could.

Hsu Hao
He was in the Special Forces this whole time, actively helping them out wiping the Black Dragon clean (doing the Red Dragon's bidding, of course).

Frost
This one is actually hard to say. We don't know anything about Frost's past.

Sareena
She's been in the Netherealm getting tortured and experiencing lots of pain for betraying Shinnok.

Blaze
Shoot, this entire time, he's been in Outworld forced to guard that damn egg.

Havik
This one's also hard to say, since we don't know anything about his past. Maybe just going around causing trouble where he could?

Shujinko
According to Deception Konquest, Shujinko has actually been wandering the Netherrealm for MK1-MKDA, struggling to regain his impurity since Nightwolf had washed it away.

Hotaru
Probably in the city of Lei Chen, fending off attacks from Shao Kahn. He's the governor of the place now, after all.

Ashrah
In the Netherrealm, slaying demons and gaining purity.

Dairou
Hard to say, since we don't know much about him. Probably just being a mercenary, working where he could for whoever.

Kobra
Shoot, man, he was just a punk-ass this entire time. Or maybe he was in his "vigilante" stage the entire time? For sure just a loser doing whatever he could to get in fights, though...

Darrius
Hard to say. Maybe still leading his resistance in the Realm of Order? We don't know much about his past.

Kira
Probably in her terrorist stage back then - acting like a man selling weapons to Afghanistan and whatnot.

Onaga
His body lay in the sarcophagus in Outworld. His soul was contained within that Dragon Egg, but used its massive power to manipulate an astral puppet to tell Shujinko where to go and whatnot. From beyond death, he was setting up his resurrection. For now, he had told Shujinko to stay in the Netherrealm.

Taven
...still asleep in that pillar beneath the Earth...

Daegon
Sitting back, wondering where the hell Blaze and Taven were. Not much to do with him, since Mavado handles all operations.
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07/04/2010 06:43 AM (UTC)
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Mewzard Wrote:
But, he COULDN'T have been in prison for 25 years. He was forced by Damashi to leave Earthrealm just shortly before MK1's Tournament started just after sending Kenshi along to the boat (which I assume he misses). The events between MK1 and MKD wouldn't be 20 years. It was 10 years, if I'm not mistaken. If we ignore (or move the DA related events from his conquest mode to after his imprisonment, and have him in Lei Chen for different reasons) some slight time issues, and make the grey haired Shujinko in his 50s instead of in his 40s (I say the game's use of 27 years passed at that point could have been a mistake), things flow nicely.

We do know for certainly that he was heading to the MK tournament to fight when Damashi sent him along...Then he fought Raiden at the portal, at the start of MK1's period...when Raiden got the message from his future self.

Shujinko would fit perfectly in this game.


And his name is spelled Raiden (as in the Arcade games) Because it's Japanese. The pronunciation differs, but the point stands.

Damn! I was gonna point that out too! If I remember, Shujinko was sent to Hell cuz Damashi wanted him to keep some evil in him so he can travel the realms. Raiden wanted Shujinko to compete after getting his ass kicked by him and seeing how strong he is! However if a more "enlightened" Raiden goes back in time, he may force Shujinko into the tournament!
Personally, I want to see Shujinko in, not cuz I really like him but because it will help make Deception's story make sense and fix the GIANT loopholes MK is fameous for! Hell, if Jinko doesn't survive the tournament, noone gets the kamidogus, Onaga will never be revived, and this mess wouldn't happen!grin All I can say now is WHOOP HIS ASS SCORPION! SHOW HIM YOUR THE CHAMP!furious
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07/04/2010 07:09 AM (UTC)
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Maybe they can make Shujinko the "Next-generation Liu Kang" like they originally intended this time around.
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07/04/2010 08:24 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
WomenOfMK Wrote:
I know I'm probably the only one who wants to see this, but I'd really like to see Hsu Hao in this game one one way or another. Apparently he had been working along side Jax for a while before he turned on him in Deadly Alliance. Something interesting could be done with that situation and with Hsu Hao, but I'm aware that most fans hate the character. An appearance in the story mode, could help set up for a future appearance in a sequel, but I get the sense that the MK team has no plans of trying to improve him and would rather just forget about him.



Actually, I'd like to see Hsu Hao get a cameo working for the Special Forces too. He doesn't have to be playable, but he's definitely a member of Sonya and Jax's team during this timeframe.

The same could be said of a scene of Jarek and maskless Kabal hanging out with Kano before MK1 starts.


That would be incredible if they put cameos of those characters in the new game. I'd love to get to see Hsu Hao and his relationship with Sonya and Jax. Were they good pals, or was it a sticky relationship? Could they see him betraying them from a mile away, or was it a big shock? Hsu Hao may seem like a generic character at first, but his story can potentially be compelling.

Appearances from Jarek, mask less Kabal, and any other character from the new games that fit in with the MK1-3 time line would be welcome by me.

I really hope the MK team puts in a good effort with the story mode. I know it's not a main focus for a lot of people, but I'm really looking forward to see what they do with the time line. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high though. MK vs. DC's story mode was fun, and they actually put in a solid effort to try and make sensible story for that game, but it was just going from point A to point B.

I mean there's no indication that the story mode will be anything like MK vs. DC's but we know basically nothing about it at this point. I'm gonna wait for more details and information on the story mode before I get too excited.
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07/04/2010 05:03 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Kenshi went blind before MK1, Shang was still an old man when he tricked him.

He didn't master his psychic powers until after MK3 or 4 when he joined the Special Forces, went on assignment to Outworld, and met Ermac, though. That much is true.


I always thought that shang tsung tricked kenshi after he is defeated by liu kang in the first tournament. After all isn't that how he regains his youthful appearance and strength in mk2? It would make sense seeing as tsung would be super weak after being beaten, he would need help to get those souls; ent Kenshi
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07/04/2010 07:45 PM (UTC)
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First off, I want to make it clear that the initial subject was meant to be MK1-3. Not just the tournament, but the invasion of earthrealm.



Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Now, let's see... I will only mention those I disagree with the main post. The rest I agree with.

MK4:

Kai: I see Kai as being the same age as Liu Kang and Kung Lao, but perhaps he was just not ready to fight alongside them. However, I could see him be present along his shaolin brothers.

Reiko: He would be part of the Brotherhood of the Shadows in Netherrealm, preparing for the coming of Shinnok.

Tanya: I have always seen Tanya as a sorceress instead of an assassin. Her garments would be explained as being those of an Edenian along with the other female Edenians.

Fujin: He would be present, but since Raiden is 'in charge' of preparing the Earthrealmers for Mortal Kombat, I believe he would just stay behind the scenes and watch.

Quan Chi: He, along with Reiko, would prepare for Shinnok's coming.

MKDA:

Kenshi: He would be trapped in the maze after having been blinded, because of Shang Tsung's treachery. At this time he would be learning how to harness his sword's gift of telekinesis and find his way out into freedom.

Moloch and Drahmin: Moloch and Drahmin didn't find their way out of the Netherrealm before MKDA. They fled through the portal which Quan Chi opened post-MK4.

Bo Rai Cho: He would definately be present, but in Earthrealm, training apprentices, as it is shown in MKD's Konquest. So he wouldn't be present at the tournament itself.

Li Mei: She would at this time around be a slave of Shao Kahn along with the rest of the Outworldians, maybe too young to be able to do anything really.

Nitara: She would be searching for the orb to free her realm from the merging with Outworld... She might be present, but maybe not interested in the whole going-ons between Earthrealm and Outworld.

MKD:

Ashrah: I believe she found the kriss some time after Shinnok's demise in MK4. I might be wrong, but that is my theory. And therefore she would be with the rest of the Brotherhood of the Shadows, preparing for Shinnok's coming around MK1.

And as go for Sareena, she would be fleeing Shinnok's agents and try to find a way out of the Netherrealm.



just in response to you:


Kai: Kai was according to his storyline someone Liu Kang recruited while looking for new shaolin monks to restore the temple. He definitely wasn't afiliated yet when MK1-3 happened.

Reiko: Reiko's MKA trading card indicates to me at least, that he was born in the Outworld (that much is fact; he is from Outworld) and served Shao Kahn, not Shinnok, before MK4. I figure that like Baraka and Reptile, he no longer had Shao Kahn to serve is why he found himself in Shinnok's service.

Even if at one time, Tobias intended him to be a demon of the netherealm, that has been shed in favor of a much stronger tie to Shao Kahn than he ever had to Shinnok. So imo, Reiko was serving Shao Kahn during the first 3 mk games.

Tanya: That's a good point; i could actually see her being more an apprentice to Shang Tsung during her long life under Kahn's rule. She's obviously of noble blood, and all known nobles of edenia were integrated into Shao Kahn's system of rule in some way.

Fujin: Yes he was guarding the temple, but I wonder what he did during MK3...perhaps he chose to not interfere...

Moloch and Drahmin: this was more of a way to possibly integrate them into the new game than saying what they were doing; if they really wanted Drahmin in the game, they could have them slip through the portal the same time as scorpion in MK3.

Bo rai cho: he wouldn't factor into the MK1 tournament, but I can't imagine him standing idly by while his adopted planet was invaded by Shao Kahn.

Nitara: In MK3, Outworld and Earthrealm were merged. A good way to integrate Nitara into the first trilogy would be to have her searching for the orb.
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RazorsEdge701
07/04/2010 11:34 PM (UTC)
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GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Kenshi went blind before MK1, Shang was still an old man when he tricked him.

He didn't master his psychic powers until after MK3 or 4 when he joined the Special Forces, went on assignment to Outworld, and met Ermac, though. That much is true.


I always thought that shang tsung tricked kenshi after he is defeated by liu kang in the first tournament. After all isn't that how he regains his youthful appearance and strength in mk2? It would make sense seeing as tsung would be super weak after being beaten, he would need help to get those souls; ent Kenshi


Hell no.

This is the second time this week someone has been wrong about how Shang got his youth back and I don't understand why, because MK2 freaking TOLD us how it happened. After Liu beat him, he made the island start collapsing and escaped back to Outworld. He went to Kahn and begged for mercy, told him his MK2 plan, and Kahn GAVE Shang his youth back with his magic. It's in his bio. It's in the official comic by Tobias. We've known this since 1993. Where is the confusion coming from?

Also, Kenshi's story was part of Deception Konquest. Shujinko meets him right before the MK1 tournament, he's already been blinded by Shang, and he asks for Shujinko's help getting invited to the tournament so he can get revenge, but they both end up missing the boat.

And by the way, to those confused about Reiko? His story works like this: He served as Kahn's general LONG AGO, before the tournaments. Then he died. THAT is how he ended up serving Shinnok. He died, became a Brother of the Shadow, and served as Shinnok's general. Then after MK4, he was free because he ran and hid when Shinnok was losing, and he went back to Outworld to become Kahn's general again in Deception/Armageddon after Kahn stopped pretending to be dead and took his kingdom back.

Y'know how I know when Reiko died? Because the canon explicitly states Goro was Kahn's General during MK1, Motaro was General during MK3, and Kano was General from the end of 3 to Deadly Alliance. If Kahn had other generals during those games, then obviously Reiko wasn't around.
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Siang
07/05/2010 12:58 AM (UTC)
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According to MK: Conquest, Reiko was once Shao Kahn's general.. so maybe he died century before MK (2011) and was in the netherealm plotting revenge against the Emperor who executed him..

Overall some great reads people
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Jaded-Raven
07/05/2010 01:03 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Kenshi went blind before MK1, Shang was still an old man when he tricked him.

He didn't master his psychic powers until after MK3 or 4 when he joined the Special Forces, went on assignment to Outworld, and met Ermac, though. That much is true.


I always thought that shang tsung tricked kenshi after he is defeated by liu kang in the first tournament. After all isn't that how he regains his youthful appearance and strength in mk2? It would make sense seeing as tsung would be super weak after being beaten, he would need help to get those souls; ent Kenshi


Hell no.

This is the second time this week someone has been wrong about how Shang got his youth back and I don't understand why, because MK2 freaking TOLD us how it happened. After Liu beat him, he made the island start collapsing and escaped back to Outworld. He went to Kahn and begged for mercy, told him his MK2 plan, and Kahn GAVE Shang his youth back with his magic. It's in his bio. It's in the official comic by Tobias. We've known this since 1993. Where is the confusion coming from?

Also, Kenshi's story was part of Deception Konquest. Shujinko meets him right before the MK1 tournament, he's already been blinded by Shang, and he asks for Shujinko's help getting invited to the tournament so he can get revenge, but they both end up missing the boat.


And by the way, to those confused about Reiko? His story works like this: He served as Kahn's general LONG AGO, before the tournaments. Then he died. THAT is how he ended up serving Shinnok. He died, became a Brother of the Shadow, and served as Shinnok's general. Then after MK4, he was free because he ran and hid when Shinnok was losing, and he went back to Outworld to become Kahn's general again in Deception/Armageddon after Kahn stopped pretending to be dead and took his kingdom back.


Y'know how I know when Reiko died? Because the canon explicitly states Goro was Kahn's General during MK1, Motaro was General during MK3, and Kano was General from the end of 3 to Deadly Alliance. If Kahn had other generals during those games, then obviously Reiko wasn't around.


Thanks for clearing that up. ^^
The MK storyline is just so vast that it is easy to get confused. I wouldn't want it any other way though.
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ErmacMk5
07/05/2010 02:52 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Kenshi went blind before MK1, Shang was still an old man when he tricked him.

He didn't master his psychic powers until after MK3 or 4 when he joined the Special Forces, went on assignment to Outworld, and met Ermac, though. That much is true.


I always thought that shang tsung tricked kenshi after he is defeated by liu kang in the first tournament. After all isn't that how he regains his youthful appearance and strength in mk2? It would make sense seeing as tsung would be super weak after being beaten, he would need help to get those souls; ent Kenshi


Hell no.

This is the second time this week someone has been wrong about how Shang got his youth back and I don't understand why, because MK2 freaking TOLD us how it happened. After Liu beat him, he made the island start collapsing and escaped back to Outworld. He went to Kahn and begged for mercy, told him his MK2 plan, and Kahn GAVE Shang his youth back with his magic. It's in his bio. It's in the official comic by Tobias. We've known this since 1993. Where is the confusion coming from?

Also, Kenshi's story was part of Deception Konquest. Shujinko meets him right before the MK1 tournament, he's already been blinded by Shang, and he asks for Shujinko's help getting invited to the tournament so he can get revenge, but they both end up missing the boat.


And by the way, to those confused about Reiko? His story works like this: He served as Kahn's general LONG AGO, before the tournaments. Then he died. THAT is how he ended up serving Shinnok. He died, became a Brother of the Shadow, and served as Shinnok's general. Then after MK4, he was free because he ran and hid when Shinnok was losing, and he went back to Outworld to become Kahn's general again in Deception/Armageddon after Kahn stopped pretending to be dead and took his kingdom back.


Y'know how I know when Reiko died? Because the canon explicitly states Goro was Kahn's General during MK1, Motaro was General during MK3, and Kano was General from the end of 3 to Deadly Alliance. If Kahn had other generals during those games, then obviously Reiko wasn't around.


I always took reiko's mk4 bio to mean that he "died" in the battle between Shinnok's forces and the Gods, and that's why he didn't appear in the first few revisions of MK4.

Nothing about Reiko's story or physical traits indicate he's an undead wraith like Noob Saibot. My belief remains that he's of the same race as Bo rai cho and Li mei, and he's an exceptional powerful general in Kahn's army.

For the record, You can have multiple generals in an army for the record. It's not a one man job necessarily. The United States has multiple Generals, and Outworld is an entire realm, not just a country; I can't imagine they'd have only one general.
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