So long as Smoke isn't misty man again. I'd rather have a human Smoke than that abomination.

i miss that lol but smoke is in???

Purple Cyberninja is my favorite Smoke, but personally, I actually prefer the "misty man" to the Human version. Human Smoke is one of the most boring characters in the history of the series. I think I might even like Hsu Hao more than seeing a dude who's just a ninja in gray, even if they make his outfit more ornate so he's not a Scorp/Sub palette swap.

Though some of my hate for Human Smoke could be just spite for his fanbase because I love the cyborg version and Sub and his storyline from MK3 so much that I literally get angry at anyone who wants him to go backward and be a regular boring dude again or not get automated at all.

Not that I'd want to see the "misty man" version in this game, since there was a storyline reason for that design and it doesn't fit pre-Deception.

So is this the bulk of information we get from Games Com?

I'd have say it would be underwhelming if so.

Yeah, these behind closed doors trade shows are pretty lame. PAX is in about two weeks though and the game'll be playable to the open public for the first time there, so I'd expect that to be when we get the best news.

Another cyborg and another "ninja"? They've been making some interesting choices with cast reveals thus far. Oh well, I'm just happy with more news!

Always been a fan of Cyrax; the shot with the net got me stoked! It looks bad-ass, I'm dying to see it in action. I'm happy enough with his look. I have to agree with those saying they wish he looked bulkier in comparison to Sektor. Right now Sektor looks more menacing than he does, IMO, and I would've liked it to be the other way around to some extent. Nevertheless, no major complaints, I like what I see overall.

I'm not hating on Kitana's hair. I think it's different, and given how little can be done creatively with Kitana's look, that's a plus in my book. I'm just glad to see something relatively new being done with her. As for the outfit, I don't think it's terrible, but definitely nothing to drop your jaw over. It gets the job done. As strange as it sounds, my favorite parts are the earrings and the headband. Tiny details, but again, something new to look at. Overall, her look is extremely "expected", but I'll take it.

The arenas are Bad! Ass! The amount of detail on the Bell Tower especially is inspiring (sunlight from the outside reflecting on the clock). I can almost hear the sounds of the bells just looking at the screenshot. The desert looks fun as hell. I'm 100% with whomever hopes the characters will displace the sand through movement. Small additions such as this would work in unison to bring the game to life.

I'm eager for videos, and for the news on deck at PAX!

On Smoke, if human, I'd like to see a revamped version of this:



If Cyber I'd like to see a very revamped version of this. Also don't forget about alternate costumes.

I have to disagree about human Smoke being boring. I see unlimited potential in a ninja character who's method of fighting revolves around the manipulation of smoke. I can see him with a very stealthy human ninja design, that would compliment such a move set.

I think Smoke would actually work best as sort of a recoloring of MK:DA's Cyrax.



If the shoulders were angled down and the helmet slightly redesigned, you'd be left with a cyborg that's streamlined like Cyrax, but not as sleek, yet angled like Sektor, but not as fierce. Think Lamborghini Reventon. This could look almost minimalist in practice, just what I'd expect from the stealthy Smoke.

I just hope the animation isnt clunky like every MK after MK4.

Yes yes, cool moves blah blah blah. What's using clouds to hide and fight add up to realistically? A Teleport? Stealing Reptile's invisibility? The moves he already had (as a robot BTW) in Armageddon?

I'm still not hearing anything that's better than "I failed my best friend and they mutilated him and he lost his soul and now he's a prisoner in his own body and being forced to hunt me down."

When he's not a robot, Smoke is JUST SOME GUY. There's no good reason to pay any fucking attention to him, he's a fucking nobody. After automation, Smoke became the fucking money shot of MK3. The single most interesting thing in that game is his and Sub-Zero's bios.

We'll get some kind of official video man don't worry. It'll probably come in the form of an interview or something which would be what I'm hoping for, they're not going half way across the world to reveal a couple of characters and arenas in the form of a few pictures, no way.

Human Smoke has not even been given a chance to develop story. Making a comparison is unfair. So spare me.

Character wise human Smoke is probably the worst thing ever. If Smoke does not become a cyborg, he virtually has no character or story, not that we know of anyway. Obviously he'd still do something, but his role a tragic victim is one I really hope they don't pass up just to be "inventive".

I was mostly referring to how horrid he looked in MK:D as the mist man, not necessarily the fact he was still technically a cyborg.

Give me an example. Prove there's any way to make Human Smoke interesting without automating him.

I know what you meant, but I actually liked that look a little bit.

lol. Human Smoke could be easily be given a story that surpasses that of 70% of the cast.

EDIT: God, there's an unlimited amount of directions that Smoke could go in. We don't even know if Noob-Saibot is going to be around this time.
Let's just say maybe the Younger Sub-Zero is captured, instead of him in this scenario. We could see Smoke fighting a completely desperate battle to liberate the Lin-Kuei and the younger Sub.
I'm just spit-balling. With more thought, I'm sure Smoke could be given a shit ton of purpose.

Also, come on guys. You were promised two characters and two arenas, and look what you've got. Will there be video? Who knows, a few sites are covering but I don't know if anything will be going up. You can't honestly be hoping for more revelations already though. At least wait a couple of days before groaning about wanting more.

Without an actual example, you're just bullshitting.

C'mon, get creative, use your imagination. Say something, anything, that you think would make me give a shit about Human Smoke as a person. Let's prove for real whether or not it can actually be done instead of speaking in vague rhetoricals.

If this game is covering the first three installments, both versions should be in. The cyborg story is what attached me to Smoke, but it's time to finally meet the man behind the tragedy.

As far as moves go, there's no special move from Smoke's MKD set that couldn't work for Human Smoke. You wouldn't even have to make them fight differently. The differences would be purely aesthetic.

And if we only get Human Smoke, I'll be okay. As good as the cyborg story was, it never got closure even after four games. Once Noob showed up, Smoke became a foot note. If Sub-Zero had any remorse for Smoke's situation beyond MK3, then the developers did a crap job of communicating that.

Said it before, will say again; any character can be made interesting given the right story angle. If there really is going to be some kind of cyber-ninja shakeup, I'm prepared for Smoke to be human again as long as there's a good reason. I personally don't care whether he's human, cyborg or nanomachines; even if whatever incarnation we get this round turns out crappy, it's not like it'll ruin my appreciation for the character. If he's a cyber-ninja, I can only expect that he'll be as different as Cyrax and Sektor are to each other. If he's human...I actually see him as being very ethereal in appearance. I severely doubt either way we're going to get a straight translation of either of his old forms. Being the 'borrower' of the MK universe (Shang notwithstanding), I'd hope extra effort would be made to make him just that much more unique.

Anyway:

Kitana looks kickass. Loving the hair, the patterns on her boots and armguards. Best she's looked since the old days. Cyrax was far from what I was expecting, but still pretty good. The smoothness of the head throws me off, and I'm not a fan of the predominant yellow all over his legs (makes me think of track pants), but it's forgivable. Thank god that net's back.

I can't say much about the desert yet, but...I think I REALLY want a video of the belltower stage.

I posted that message the same time you posted yours. Give me a break.

i began to like smoke in the mkd era i became amazed how his story is and why was he cut off in mkd so far n i still like noob smoke

What people seem to be overlooking is, why isn't older Sub-Zero automated either?

He was as corrupt as the Lin Kuei was...

I dunno.

Well in the original timeline, he was dead by then. We'll have to wait and see with this new "Raiden messes everything up" version.

He ain't dead now...
Unless he dies in the storyline. But still, if he is still alive he isn't with the Lin Kuei anymore.