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Jaded-Raven
05/14/2012 06:41 AM (UTC)
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See, before MK9 release when Boon released the infamous leg photo and everyone began to talk about how it could be Skarlet, I thought that most people were saying that she was a blonde. I could be wrong though.

That's why I was picturing a blonde character, or maybe even a light colored redhead. When she was revealed as a deep redhead I just kept thinking what the hell?

I also feel that blonde would have fit better. I wonder if they just want Sonya as the only blonde in the series because we have now seen plenty of black hair, and two redhead girls. The only blonde we have seen is Sonya though.


I love red hair, Kira's appearance was one of the good things about her and I am glad to see Skarlet having red hair too. I mean, her name is Skarlet, she is made of blood, it makes sense. :P
At least she doesn't have black hair, except for a couple of stripes. ^^
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RazorsEdge701
05/14/2012 03:03 PM (UTC)
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I'd spell her name with two Ts. It just looks more like a person's name to me that way I guess.

I'd give her a deeper backstory. For example, if Shao Kahn created her, then she's technically more of an actual daughter to him than his adopted ones Kitana and Mileena, right? I mean, she's not made out of pre-existing personalities like Ermac, she was born when Kahn made her. Maybe there's somewhere to go with that. I've got ideas but this is hardly the time for fan fiction...

I'd also overhaul her entire moveset:

- No drop-out-of-the-sky teleport or straight knife throw, those make her seem like a red Mileena. She could chuck the ninja knives a different way, like maybe have them spin through the air on an arcing trajectory like Cage's forceballs or be able to subtly aim them like Kung Lao's hat?

- Instead of chucking a ball of blood, she should spray it like a hose like Rain's water move, it would look somewhat less absurd. OR if you really want to take the "controls blood with her mind" idea and run with it, don't just have her chuck bubbles, that's uncreative, give her constructs, like she could shape blood into floating axes and swords and shit like a Green Lantern.

- And the tentacles from her one fatality? I'd give her a ground attack where one of those stabs up like Freddy's claw move/Shang's up-skulls...though this could also fall under the category of just giving her some "hemokinetic construct" moves.
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NoobSaibot5
05/14/2012 03:55 PM (UTC)
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Her teleport would look better if she just burst into blood and instantly re-appeared behind the opponent with an upwards slash. Make it a pop up rather than a knockdown move, and give it quicker wake up with a slightly faster starting animation. Could be spammed to shit but it would be quite useful. Her enhanced could stay the same, I like the way she sticks the swords into the back and rolls of them.

Her knives are fine for me. I like how practical they are and easy to incorporate into combos. As is the slide. So far she's the only female with a slide move.

The only move I'd drop would be her overhead groundbounce special, and I'd swap it for a special where she makes those veins in her fatality spike up from the ground. Another move she could use would be something like a blood lust or a frenzy move, where she has increased damage but can't do special moves for 4 seconds.

I never use the blood ball because it's just not safe imo, way too risky to use as her considering her damage output is already quite low. That could be removed and I wouldn't personally miss it.

As for her fatalitys, I'd like to see her go inside an opponent's body through a cut by stabbing herself and entering their wounds. Once inside the victim has those veiny tendrils burst and erupt from the body frequently, which tears them apart. When they fall to the floor, she seeps out of their body and re-solidifies covered in blood.
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RedSumac
05/14/2012 04:26 PM (UTC)
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The costume is fine. She's one of Kahn's creations and therefore she's dressed like one.

I don't buy it. Ermac doesn't go around in leather strips and iron skulls and he is also Kahn's creation (and giving Kahn's own style it would be logical for him to look like that).
For me her design is another stupid attempt at fanservice and another uncreative and lousy female design. There is much more could be done with her premise for the good design.
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Icebaby
05/14/2012 05:22 PM (UTC)
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Well, if you haven't noticed, red is kind of a thing for Kahn's creation.

You have:


Scarlet: Who's all in red and black.
Ermac: Who's all in red and black.
Mileena: Who's in pink (a shade of red) and black.

I'm going to say that there's a thing going on with Kahn's creations that if it's made by him or help with him... there's some sort of redness going on there. And black.
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Harle
05/14/2012 06:21 PM (UTC)
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If we're gettin' technical, Mileena is Shang Tsung's creation... Clearly, this is why she is pink. Hehehehehe...... grin
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05/14/2012 07:31 PM (UTC)
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Skarlet is pretty sweet, man; there's not much wrong with her.

In all honesty, the only thing I'd change about her is her costume. it seems too cliche and kind mis-matched. And for someone who loves being bathed in blood (as shown from her fatalities), I think it would make more sense if she was barefoot.

That's just my take on it.
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DJMikey80
05/14/2012 09:06 PM (UTC)
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I like Skarlet, but I do feel she plays very similarly to Mileena. Bladed Projectile, Blood Drop = Teleport Kick, Blood Slide = Ground Roll..

She's definitely an A-tier character, which is cool and everything. But it makes her inaccessible to some players, which is perhaps not great in the 1st decent new character to the series.. However I do think that shouldn't be changed now, purely because she's already established as an A-tier character..

Her back-story is a little bland, but since her story couldn't be explored in story mode that's to be expected..

Her costume defo needs work!! The boots were great!! The top, I guess, was OK.. The Loincloth, even by the current MK stripper on a pole standards, was trashy and wrong.. The shoulder-pads and other armoured details of her costume didn't really work, they were mis-matched and didn't fit in purely because "What's the point in wearing armour on your shoulders etc, if you're going to expose more vulnerable parts of your anatomy by being half naked". The mask and cowl were also deeply wrong, because they just looked weird with the low-cut bikini top..

However the red hair looked totally perfect and was a nice departure from the black hair of the other female ninjas..

For the most part, the things I'd change about Skarlet are cosmetic. I saw a very cool alt costume design, drawn by a fan, where her loincloth was longer and more flowing and her top half was clad in Samurai armour. It looked totally amazing!!

Also I'd lessen the self-damage inflicted by the Blood Ball. I'd increase the damage caused by her X-Ray to bring it in line with the other characters.. Somebody suggested her being able to manipulate blood into different weapons, which is quite a cool idea.. But I think this could be expanded upon..

I'm not sure exactly how it could be employed or how the mechanics of it would work. But it would be pretty awesome and cool, if Skarlet could manipulate her opponents blood, while it flowed through their veins maybe it could be an extension of her X-Ray attack. Or a fatality in which Skarlet does some mumbo-jumbo which appears to do nothing until her opponent ruptures and spews blood everywhere..
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05/15/2012 12:10 AM (UTC)
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RedSumac Wrote:
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
The costume is fine. She's one of Kahn's creations and therefore she's dressed like one.

I don't buy it. Ermac doesn't go around in leather strips and iron skulls and he is also Kahn's creation (and giving Kahn's own style it would be logical for him to look like that).

The pattern of dress for male characters under Kahn's rule has always been separate from the one applied to females. If Kahn went through the trouble to create a slave with an exceptionally attractive body, he's probably going to wanna see it. A lot.

Edenians in general tend to under-dress. That staple has been very consistent since the early days, and I'm glad they've stuck to that. They never straight-up say it, but it's most likely a cultural thing (not too unlike what we've see in real historical cultures who celebrated the human body). Hell, maybe it's just really humid in Edenia.
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Jaded-Raven
05/15/2012 01:34 AM (UTC)
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There are some really good ideas being posted here. Let's hope someone from NRS takes a peek at them. ^^
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05/15/2012 06:18 AM (UTC)
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In my honest opinion, Skarlet is the only character I feel should be completely nude.

I think it suits her strong, blood thirsty nature. Of course, certain areas will have to be censored, simple blood stains can take care of that, with blood stains on other parts of the body as well, to keep the censoring from being blatantly obvious or odd in appearance.
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projectzero00
05/15/2012 10:04 AM (UTC)
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Scar_Subby Wrote:
In regards to her costume, Did anyone else besides me picture her as a blonde?

I always thought she was a blonde, or that she was rumoured to be blonde? Am I wrong there?

Also in regards to her attire I pictured her as a blonde elektra with a red mask and minus the bandana.

In fact that was the perfect picture of what Skarlett should look like. So, you can only imagine what I thought when I saw her in MK9. My initial reaction was WTF?lol

Still she's a good character and I feel she can be built off of. I say that she should be on the main roster in the next game.


I also think blonde would fit her a lot better. That red from head to toes gets boring...her costume is also generic and her powers could be given to nitara. All in all i find skarlet's portrayal awful...she was the only newbie in this game and it was all utter dissapointment for me :/
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RazorsEdge701
05/15/2012 10:31 AM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Edenians in general tend to under-dress. That staple has been very consistent since the early days, and I'm glad they've stuck to that. They never straight-up say it, but it's most likely a cultural thing (not too unlike what we've see in real historical cultures who celebrated the human body). Hell, maybe it's just really humid in Edenia.


Well...the place is deliberately named after the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve weren't exactly known for wearing a lot.

That said, "Edenians don't wear a lot" was never actually a thing. Kitana used to cover everything but her arms and thighs all the way from MK2 to vsDCU, and Jade and Tanya followed suit. Mileena was the first one to get into a two-piece but it coincided with the creators giving her dialogue where she says shit like "don't you find me sexy?"...and now suddenly in MK9 everyone's doing it.

And then there's Rain who actually gains more clothes each time he appears, lol.
Also, Skarlet isn't Edenian or connected to the Edenians in any way...unless you consider being the only Kahn-ninja girl who's NOT Edenian (or fake-Edenian in Mileena's case) conspicuous in and of itself for some reason.
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05/15/2012 02:06 PM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
Scar_Subby Wrote:
In regards to her costume, Did anyone else besides me picture her as a blonde?

I always thought she was a blonde, or that she was rumoured to be blonde? Am I wrong there?

Also in regards to her attire I pictured her as a blonde elektra with a red mask and minus the bandana.

In fact that was the perfect picture of what Skarlett should look like. So, you can only imagine what I thought when I saw her in MK9. My initial reaction was WTF?lol

Still she's a good character and I feel she can be built off of. I say that she should be on the main roster in the next game.


I also think blonde would fit her a lot better. That red from head to toes gets boring...her costume is also generic and her powers could be given to nitara. All in all i find skarlet's portrayal awful...she was the only newbie in this game and it was all utter dissapointment for me :/


I don't think she should be a blonde.

It seems too human-like, to me. I think it should be dark brown, a non-reddish hair color I feel can represent stained blood. I mean, seriously, if she loves being surrounded and consumed in blood, she should be drenched in it. No clothes, no shoes, no armor, just blood.
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05/15/2012 02:21 PM (UTC)
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Making her blonde? She already looks just like Sonya with recolored hair, that's my biggest problem with her looks for me, more than the outfit.
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NoobSaibot5
05/15/2012 02:36 PM (UTC)
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The red hair suits her. I just dont see the appeal in a blonde, bloodthirsty ninja in heels. It would just look out of place. :/
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RazorsEdge701
05/15/2012 02:37 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, I think being blonde would totally throw her whole look out of whack too.

I mean, there's a blonde ninja in Soul Calibur 5 and it looks completely ridiculous.
I wouldn't mind seeing another blonde chick besides Sonya one day...but not in a mask and vaguely Asian-themed attire, that just don't fit. Maybe an elegantly-dressed sorceress-type or a Seidan or a goddess, something like that...
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projectzero00
05/15/2012 04:27 PM (UTC)
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My problem is that many females in mk already have too many common traits in their appearance. Most of them have black hair which is hard to change for characters like mileena or jade or whatever character was an original and has an established fanbase the way they look now. But they could make the "new" ones a little more original like skarlet. They finally decided not to make another black haired female ninja and they do what? Turn skatlet into a kira look alike with powers that could be given to nitara!

About the blond hair thingy, they should deff reintroduce some girls with a new look and blonde hair in the next game...i will post some sketches i made for nitara with long ice blond hair and pale skin some time. I think it fits a lot better than the look she has now. She is a freagin vampire! She should look like it, not like some random pole dancer with an eye patch :S ashrah shoul also turn blond imo...give her some flowy white garments, as well and along with blond hair it woul add to the whole "purification" theme she has going on. Dunno i just think we need more blondes in mk :P and i expected skarlet to be one of those in this game
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05/15/2012 05:06 PM (UTC)
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Well of course her costume would look better on a better model, hehehe... These tiny heads, gargantuan shoulders, pencil waists, nonexistent hips, erect ass cheeks, monster boobs, weirdly thick arms for such skinny women, etc... Are probably the biggest problem for most of the costumes (notably, Jade's primary is flawless except for the horrid fitting on her wonky proportions)... But Skarlet has the dubious honor of not being able to blame it on entirely on her figure.


I'd still do them.
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RazorsEdge701
05/15/2012 05:30 PM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
She is a freagin vampire! She should look like it, not like some random pole dancer with an eye patch


It's a headband. Nitara's designer said her primary costume was inspired by Vincent Valentine from Final Fantasy VII, who himself is not a vampire but was designed to sort of evoke or have a lot in common with one...pale, fanged, sleeps in a coffin, angsts about love/loneliness/being undead alot like an Anne Rice book, etc. But that's where the wild black hair and fold-y red headband came from.

...And her alt is based on the rock band KISS. I'm not sure why they came up with that.

Y'know, I can't think of any blonde vampires off the top of my head. It's not actually a common look, probably because it doesn't contrast well with pale skin, the whole "goth" look is all about stark black and whites. Well...there's Spike from Buffy, but he's supposed to be a British punker, it's bleached.
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05/15/2012 08:57 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
She is a freagin vampire! She should look like it, not like some random pole dancer with an eye patch


It's a headband. Nitara's designer said her primary costume was inspired by Vincent Valentine from Final Fantasy VII, who himself is not a vampire but was designed to sort of evoke or have a lot in common with one...pale, fanged, sleeps in a coffin, angsts about love/loneliness/being undead alot like an Anne Rice book, etc. But that's where the wild black hair and fold-y red headband came from.

...And her alt is based on the rock band KISS. I'm not sure why they came up with that.


Y'know, I can't think of any blonde vampires off the top of my head. It's not actually a common look, probably because it doesn't contrast well with pale skin, the whole "goth" look is all about stark black and whites. Well...there's Spike from Buffy, but he's supposed to be a British punker, it's bleached.


Well there are Darla and Harmony from that show too.. however I do agree that blonde hair just does not seem to fit for vampires.

Since this thread was made, I've been thinking a lot about what NRS has in store for Skarlet (if anything at all...given their track record with new fighters).

Now that Kahn is out of the picture (though who knows if that's gonna last) she's pretty much a blank slate. I'm truly hoping they don't take her the revenge route (like in her ending, which I'm glad cannot be canon due to the story mode ending)... it'll be Scorpion all over again. The "character out for revenge" bit has been done to death. I hope they give her a new purpose that separates her from Kahn and allows her to grow as a character ,,, instead of making her "just another minion".
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05/15/2012 08:58 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
She is a freagin vampire! She should look like it, not like some random pole dancer with an eye patch


It's a headband. Nitara's designer said her primary costume was inspired by Vincent Valentine from Final Fantasy VII, who himself is not a vampire but was designed to sort of evoke or have a lot in common with one...pale, fanged, sleeps in a coffin, angsts about love/loneliness/being undead alot like an Anne Rice book, etc. But that's where the wild black hair and fold-y red headband came from.

...And her alt is based on the rock band KISS. I'm not sure why they came up with that.


Y'know, I can't think of any blonde vampires off the top of my head. It's not actually a common look, probably because it doesn't contrast well with pale skin, the whole "goth" look is all about stark black and whites. Well...there's Spike from Buffy, but he's supposed to be a British punker, it's bleached.


Blonde vampires:

Louis, LeStat and Claudia - Interview With A Vampire..

Betsy Taylor - UNDEAD AND books series..

Eric Northman and Sophie-Anne LeClerq - Southern Vampire Mysteries (TrueBlood for those more familiar with the TV series)

Darla - Buffy the Vampire Slayer..
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Jaded-Raven
05/15/2012 10:05 PM (UTC)
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Not to mention Eric Northman (YUM) in True Blood. ^^

But anyways, this isn't about Nitara and blonde vampires.
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projectzero00
05/16/2012 05:14 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
She is a freagin vampire! She should look like it, not like some random pole dancer with an eye patch



Y'know, I can't think of any blonde vampires off the top of my head. It's not actually a common look, probably because it doesn't contrast well with pale eskin, the whole "goth" look is all about stark black and whites. Well...there's Spike from Buffy, but he's supposed to be a British punker, it's bleached.


http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np2/char1/xtra/bb-rachel-alucard.jpg

That's who i had in mind...i dont get how blond hair and pale skin dont fit nicely togetherconfused
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Harle
05/16/2012 06:16 AM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
In my honest opinion, Skarlet is the only character I feel should be completely nude.

I think it suits her strong, blood thirsty nature. Of course, certain areas will have to be censored, simple blood stains can take care of that, with blood stains on other parts of the body as well, to keep the censoring from being blatantly obvious or odd in appearance.


As a creation of blood, who says Skarlet even has reproductive organs? I think an interesting look for her would be completely vag-less, no nipples (maybe as far as no breasts), perhaps even lacking a belly button! Instead of clothes she could have tiny versions of those blood tentacles she uses in her fatality wrapped decoratively around her body. Maybe they even squirm a little.
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
And then there's Rain who actually gains more clothes each time he appears, lol.

This should be remedied......
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