SubMan799 Wrote:I've noticed there is no gameplay discussion on these boards. I figured I might as well start one.
Some quick info for people who aren't familiar with fighting game termonology.
Juggle: The player combos a character while the victim is still in the air. The player literally juggles the character around in the air.
Wake Up: When a player is lying down on the floor they can choose whether to roll away, attack, or do nothing upon getting up. For 2D fighters this is usually not implemented.
Overhead Attack: An attack that hits opponents that are blocking low.
Damage Scaling: This is when hits in a combo do less and less damage as the combo goes on. It is a universal element in all fighters
50/50 or Wake Up Game: A common element in 2D games. When a player knocks an opponent on the floor, the players decides what to do when the opponent gets up. They can perform and overhead attack, sweep attack, cross up, grab or any other move. The victim must guess what the opponent is going to use and defend against it accordingly.
Frames: In the most basic sense, this is how fast a move comes out.
Frame Advantage: A move which allows the player to recover before his opponent leaves either hit stun on hit or block stun on block is considered to have frame advantage in those areas. Moves that enjoy frame advantage on hit are often used in links to perform combos, while moves that enjoy frame advantage on block are often used as pokes.
Recovery Frames: This is the animation after a move is done. Moves like Scorpion's Spear has a lot of recovery frames and is deemed unsafe, while a move like Kabal's air fireball has almost no recovery frames.
Punisher: When an opponent is in recovery frames, a player can dish out damage, or "punish" the opponent with a huge combo. Moves like Ermac's teleport punch can be punished when blocked for a huge combo.
Safe: When a move has a few recovery frames. Moves like a regular jab are considered safe.
Anti Air: Anti Air, often abbreviated AA, is a move that deals damage to incoming airborne opponents. Think of Ryu's Shoryuken.
Pop Up or Launcher: A move that launches the opponent into the air, setting up a juggle
Dash/Run: A dash is a quick movement forward. A run is when your character runs forward towards the enemy.
Throws/Techs: A throw is a move that goes through blocks. Techs are included in street fighter. It is when a character cancels an opponent's throw
HP, HK, LP, LK: High Punch, High Kick, Low Punch and Low Kick respectively.
Command Attacks: An attack that is unique to the character. It is not a special move. This has not been implemented in the 2D MK games
Scrub: Basically an asshole that thinks they are really good at fighters, when in reality they are just terrible
I think I've got enough down for now. If you got anything else I can add to the list then just post it. I'm sure I forgot something important.
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Now onto the main discussion.
One thing that MK has never done successfully is give each character individuality. MKDA-MKA failed to do this. Prior to these games, every character was basically the same. Sindel and Kung Lao are basically the same when you take away their specials and dial-a-combos.
EDIT 6/18: From the gamespot hands on, we now know that each character will be very unique and play completely different. Nice one MK team!
Characters need to have varying amounts of health. And their attacks should have different ranges, power and frames. Without individuality, the game becomes shallow as every character will play the same.
Give each character command attacks. Kung Lao could have a command overhead where he attacks the opponent with his hat. Baraka can have his blades out all the time to give him more range then other characters
Another thing that MK has never done is add a grapple character. A character that mainly uses command throws. If they plan on adding new characters, add a grappler!
Kombo Breakers, if added to this game, need very special care. You don't want it so that they are common and ruin the tempo of the game, and you also don't want it to be so sparse that its never seen and not viable. The way they did it in MKDC was alright, but maybe make it a bit harder to fill the meter for Kombo Breakers.
EDIT 6/18: Another thing the MK team nailed. Congrats So there are some of my ideas. I might post some more ideas as I get them. Also note that we are not discussing fatalities, costumes, stages, ect. as they do not add anything to the gameplay
Interesting video. This shows Sektor combo-ing into an X-Ray move, The X-Ray move is scaled heavily and the combo only deals about 40% damage. Nice job MK.
