In MK1 he wanted revenge on Sub-Zero. He got it.
In MK2 he wanted revenge on Sub-Zero. He learnt that it wasn't the same Sub-Zero.
In UMK3/MKT he was a "wild card", whatever that means.
In MK4 he is Quan Chi's slave and is ordered to kill Sub-Zero. He learns Quan Chi is the murderer of his clan.
In MKDA he wanted revenge on Quan Chi. Didn't get it.
In MKD he became the Champion of the Elder Gods and was sent to kill Onaga. Shujinko beat him to it.
In MKA, the Elder Gods resurrected Scorpion's clan as undeads, so now he wants revenge on the Elder Gods.

And in MK9 we go back to the same old story of him wanting revenge on Sub-Zero and being a slave for Quan Chi.

As said, Scorpion is about the same thing throughout the games which is revenge. He just switches targets from time to time. I call that underdeveloped, and I call that a fact due to the proof above.

So no, it is not just in the recent games.

Who cares if Scorpion is an underdeveloped character though? Like why would that even matter? You have to be a well developed character to be the most iconic now?

Scorpion is proof of that it isn't a necessity, no.
That wasn't the point though. fijikungfu called me ignorant for saying Scorpion is an underdeveloped character, so I proved my point.

You call it underdeveloped but I call it development, and you just add the word 'revenge' in every subplot without the whole dynamic of why he's so fixated on it. In MK2 he realized that this new Sub-Zero was not the same one he defeated, and instead he decided to help him and turn against the Outworld force.
Then in UMK3, he had no targets of vengeance hence why he was a 'wild card', because his alignment could swing either way.
Then came MK4, it made sense that Quan Chi killed his family and clan because up until that point he never found out who actually did it. And it in turn made out Quan Chi on who he really is.
But he failed to even reach Quan Chi in DA, and instead got reborn into the Champion of the Elder Gods since all of Earth's heroes were killed off in Deadly Alliance. It was progress and development until MKA happened, so he's not the one-note character you're making him out to be. And he's certainly not Quan Chi's slave in the old story, they just threw that in MK9 because, well MK9.
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The ignorant part I called upon you is because you call it fact when it's actually opinion.

This cover really sucks. The art is sick, but it's just boring for cover art imo. Maybe it's also because this image is the promo image for MKX. If they're going to throw Scorpion on it, use an image unique to the box art I say. I really hope if there is a collector's edition that the box art will be different.

And you call me ignorant. XD
Look, if you wish to see it as development, then fine. But I don't. So let's just agree to disagree, because neither of us are going to change the other's mind.

This.

I still don't see what the big deal/fuss is about Scorpion being on the cover art. The reality of it is, regardless of story or character development, Scorpion is MK's most iconic character. It may be the looks, it may be that he is a specter, it may be his power, it may be his spear, hell it may even be his classic voice, but the fact of the matter is the general public identifies most with Scorpion than any other MK character.

It's all about marketing. Sub-Zero will never be on the cover alone of an MK game, unless it's not with Scorpion. And why this bothers people, I do not understand.

Yes, I understand we are definitely not going to change each other's minds.I know how you feel about Scorpion but it's your opinion about him that makes it an opinion, and not a fact. I see his story as development and you don't, it doesn't make any one of us righter than the other. I'm not flat-out calling you an ignorant person, but I'd like to point out that saying your opinion in a biased and factual manner comes off as a little bit ignorant.

Because there are people on this forum who do not like Scorpion and who wish he wasn't the front man of the game, and thus they are speaking their mind, as that is what a forum is about - to share thoughts, ideas, opinions and discuss these.

If you read through the thread, there are also people who don't think this is a good cover, even though they like Scorpion and/or have accepted the fact that he is the front man of Mortal Kombat, but are discussing the very aesthetics of it instead.

There are also those who think the cover should just feature the MK logo, like it has done in many previous game covers, which would make it recognizable enough. I dare say the MK logo is just as known as Scorpion is, as that is the first thing you see when you start any MK game (or most, at least).

Allow me to return the favour and say that calling Scorpion's storyline throughout the games as development comes off a little bit ignorant as well. No matter how you twist or turn it, Scorpion's main story point is revenge. And instead of giving him satisfaction, the MK team/NRS just gives him something else to focus his lust for revenge on. That is not development.

I fully understand that there are some people in this forum that would not like to see Scorpion on the box cover. I respect that. However, it is a small percentage of people when comparing to the general public that just identifies themselves with Scorpion. I'm sure the market research that has gone into discovering this is plentiful. There comes a time when you just have to accept it.

I didn't know we were discussing aesthetics. I was simply discussing the fact the Scorpion is in the cover. I, for one, like the cover art. It's simple, the details are there, and it's straight to the point. 10x better then MK9's crowded and busy cover art.

I highly doubt this will be the final cover art, anyway.

It's really just Sub-Zero (Noob Saibot) and Quan Chi that fueled his revenge. From MK1-MKD he's made a steady development with a few bizarre events turning the tide on his story (Younger Sub-Zero, MK4 Ending, Soulnado Ressurection).

Sure we can bring up MKA and MK9's story, but there's a case to be made that those games really halted story development on most of the characters (MKA because it was Trilogy 2.0, and MK9 because of all the unnecessary retcons and changes in the timeline). But when I look at the original timeline, I can't help but believe they were definitely making progress with Scorpion, and he had more of a dynamic than just a 'vengeful spirit'. And to say that it's a bit ignorant to believe in his development is both insulting and condescending.

People will whine endlessly about Scorpion always being about revenge yet I love how no one complains about characters like Tanya. Her only character trait is "stab people in the back".

As were you when said the same about me.

Feel free to make a thread and complain about it then. No one is stopping you. However, this thread is about the box art and Scorpion being on it, not about Tanya.

Because it came across that way when you say it's a 'fact' that he's undeveloped, but when someone else says otherwise he's wrong. Saying my opinion that he's developed doesn't warrant the same treatment.

I personally don't mind the box art of Scorpion, I think it's pretty cool. But I would LOVE a Sub-Zero cover, though I'm sure everyone would want one of their favorite character.

I never said the thread was about Tanya. It's just absolutely hilarious how people hate on Scorpion and not her for being bland. I won't make a new thread about it because we SHOULD all know that bitching about something isn't going to change it, but clearly some of us don't know that.

The point of this is that he is on the case due to being the most known character to the public, whether it be for his catch phrase that everyone got to know in MK1, fans (hardcore or casual) thinking that masked spectre with flaming skull for a head is badass, etc. We could say "what if?" about if someone like Sub-Zero was made the front-man (if he were to be Ed Boon's favorite) but the fact of the matter is they wouldn't have Scorpion being the front-man if he wasn't the most popular in reality. Do you really think Boon cares about himself enjoying the case more than the fans?

The case makes sense in the whole "not being flashy like MK9" case thing. It is pretty clear they are trying to take a gritty, possibly dark turn with the game... so the case doesn't need all the flashiness that the MK9 case had.


People can choose to not like the case all they want, but Scorpion wasn't heavily featured in almost all of the promotional work until MKDA so blame the people who loved Scorpion in MK1-MK4 for that. NRS/Midway pushed a lot of characters during the promotional work for the games they made but do you really think that WB is going to turn down the idea of making so much more money by always featuring the most recognizable character?

Well, I do consider it a fact, for the reasons I have stated and the proof I've given. If that makes you think I am ignorant, well, then I can't change that.

For someone who don't like bitching, you sure bitch alot about it.

It would be cool if they had multiple covers for the Komplete Edition.


Is it wrong to think that notion ignorant? Story development is completely up to personal interpretation, it's not an actual fact.

Me saying the case is perfectly fine in regards to the direction they are taking for the game is me bitching? You've always been difficult to deal with but this is a whole new level if you are looking at this as me bitching because you are being outlandish (no MK pun intended. Caught it when I reread it).


EDIT: I also guess that saying 1 brief thing about Tanya and a reason for me NOT to make a thread about bitching is enough to cause an uproar. Maybe you should tell me to see a therapist about it since that's your gimmick.

No, you were bitching about people bitching. Whatever else you had to say, I didn't care about.

When a character keeps going back to square 1, then yes, I consider it a fact that said character has no story development.

If you don't like the cover, then take the damn thing out and make your own. It's simple as that. I mean, my 2011 game doesn't have its cover, the only reason why is because it's hung in my room after the live action actors autographed it but still... Just make your own cover if you don't want to see Scorpion's pretty face on the cover.

Hehe, pretty face... good one. XD
That's not a bad idea though.
And cool you got those autographs. ^^

One of the smartest things I've heard so far.

Let's try to dumb the hostility toward each other down too, yeah?

Again, you considering it a fact is actually an opinion.

I don't like the cover simply because I don't like it being dedicated to a single character. I realize Scorp is the most popular, but that isn't why I don't like it. Just feels underwhelming.

I'm just nitpicking though. Not as if it'll have any bearing on my enjoyment of the game. Still very much excited.