ok..time for smoke

u know the drill

i dotn have time to say much

smoke is cool
he has an amazing storyline

i missed him and i'm glad he's back and i dont care what haters have to say

Smoke is cool, unfortunately I'm a fan of robot Smoke and not Human Smoke.

Robot Smoke is a great and cool character and has a good storyline. He's the best of the robots imo and owns the other two!

Now that he is back in MKD, I am hoping he'll be a robot, or as both robot and human and make both forms good. Although it has been said he'll be neither so however he does look, I hope he looks badass!

I have no idea what his story will be, but I can guess it'll revolve around Sub-Zero. And it'll probably involve Sektor too. Hopefully, they'll take Smokes story and improve upon it.

I also hope they make him a very good fighter and give him some worthy and decent styles. And a good weapon also.

As for his Fatalities, I hope he'll have new ones. His old ones were not that impressive.

I hope Smoke is a combination human/cyborg..

I hope one of his costumes has a straight up ninja look.. sorry but I like ninjas.

First off as I've said before I'm happy as hell Smoke is back. I hope they continue his storyline as far a his relation to Sub-Zero. It would make the most sense for him to come back as a cyber ninja since that's where his story left off however I wouldn't mind seeing him human. But as we already know he's not either so I'm REALLY interested how the MK team is going to handle his new look and story.

I personally hope he comes back as a Ninja regardless of form. I mean he was part of the Lin Kuei with Sub-Zero so it only makes sense. Regardless though I can't wait to learn more and see more of Smoke in Deception. Hopefully thay won't change him so much that he stops becoming one of my favorite characters(Sub-Zero and Scorpion are my other two favorites).

As I stated many times Smoke was my favorite MK character in MK3 both human and cyber. I used to love pulling the cyber-to-human trick during the second round on the UMK3 arcade, especial before people knew about the trick and watch their reactions

Hopefully Smoke achieved his new form some way other than "he died and came back". That would not only be unorginal, but it'd be ripping off Scorpion yet again, something Smoke needs to cut back on.

I think it'd be interesting if Smoke gained his new form undertaking some ritual in Outworld. While Cyrax was seeking a technological solution to his cyber form with Jax and Sonya, Smoke traveled to outworld looking for a mystical and more absolute escape form his robot body. Would at least be more orginal than some lame rising from the grave plotline. Would also explain what Smoke has been doing all this time and why he's in outworld to take part in MKD in the first place.

Hopefully if the new form rumors are true we'll at least be able to recongize him. If there false I'd welcome his cyber form back just the same.

That being said I hope Smoke has his trident spear and invisiblity intact He could stand to lose the rest of his Scorpion moves IMO though.

I think maybe he'll have his cyber formm in his alt like cyrax. i also think that render is smoke like when two people pick the same person and costume just a little differant

My boy Smoke is back and i'm thrilled, i've always wanted him to return since the old days, and now that he has, i'm more than happy. I would like him to be a full ninja with his own unique looks and move sets, but i also wouldnt mind if he was half cyborg half human. From what we've heard so far, he might just end up being a cloud of smoke which sounds........well, interesting, if they do it right.

Personally, i cant wait to play as him. I'm thinking his story will revolve around subzero, and he'll probably be helping him out. I want to know where smoke has been and what he has been doing. If he does end up being just smoke, i want to learn how he became this way.

Yep, Smoke is amazing

i hope Sektor is really in MKD.
I've been waiting to see a Smoke vs Sektor showdown.

Its about time Smoke got a real place in the game with his own moves and not being secret.(umk3 and MKT dont count)

from the rumors and word on the net, Smoke wont be human or robot.

i guess he'll be Smoke thats in the shape of a human.

kinda like the only way he could come back.

i like the theory about Smoke using magical meathods to exit his robot body..it is much cooler than Cyrax's techno way to humanity.

Its great to have Smoke on the team..this should really help Sub-Zero, who , like i've always sai, could really use a friend!!!

i am very excited about smokes return.... he has been my second favorite character since mk2... reptiles my first... but smoke ive always loved.... my preference for him is to be ninja though if he was a robot again i would still love h8im cause it's smoke i just preferd him as a ninjua.... but if he is a cloud of smoke i think that could be awesome i like the idea of him using mystics to escape his body... and if done well it could be a really interesting form for him... hopefully they won't make it too plain or dumb looking... can't wait to see what he's going to look like.... story wise i hope they develop more to it and don't just leave it as is cause i love his story but needs some expanding and some new directions..... oh well nuff said smoke is awesome can't wait to hear more of him.

If the rumors are true I envision Smoke's new form as a grey, etheral figure in the crude shape of a Lin Kuei warrior made of smoke and shrouded in a light layer of misty smoke.

Got to imagine we'll at least be able to make out arms, legs, and a head on him, otherwise how would he be able to fight?

Or Smoke will be still be a robot to some degree and the whole "neither human nor robot" rumor is someone's idea of having fun with the deception theme.

a cool move should involve Smoke making his body transparent or whatever the word is(u pass right through him)

it'd be a cool defense move

**Looks at his MK Trilogy CD case**

"...copyright 1996 Midway games..."

Wow. Eight years it's been, since my favorite character has been in a game. Eight long years.

I'm very very excited that he's back. This time, I'm utterly confident that he'll have all of his own moves.

When you think about it, he's never had one original special move of his own. Not one. His MKII presence featured super-speed bursts (which was nice, but Jade, Saibot and Reptile had them too, even if they were slower), and scorpion's spear.

MK3 came around, but the trident was just scorpion's spear redux, Sektor had the teleport uppercut, reptile had the invisibility, the air throw was also originally Scorpion's. In cyber-form, he did have his own fatalities, but to be honest, they were both kind of lame (i'm aware his armageddon bomb fatality is popular, but I loathed it).

If that wasn't enough, UMK3 saw his human form come back, and rather than have his own moveset, he again used scorpion's spear, got his teleport punch, and got Ermac's uppercut decapitation fatality.

He had some quickly dashed-out fatalities of his own in human form in MKT, but they were for the most part, lazily made (teleport punch decap?). His body entrance fatality, which everyone wanted, could have been better looking if only they'd taken the time...
but no, they just made him do his winpose, and then the other guy started stretching...ugh.

And then the poor schmuck dropped off the face of the planet for almost a decade, having only marginally passable fatalities, animalities and friendships to call his own. AND he was stuck in a cyborg's body. Sucks to be him, you know?

But now, in this age of technology and promise, where there's nary a pallete to be swapped, he can come back with promise. It's been stated that he's now neither human nor cyborg. We can only wonder...and giggle with anticipation.

I can picture it now: he's stuck somewhere between both states, mechanical patches all over his body, going crazy, wandering around all pissed off at the MK development team....ah, I mean, uh, the Dragon King, or Sektor...it doesn't matter. I just know he's going to kick some ass this time around.

I hope he doesn't have a trident, unless it's as a weapon style, and he's holding it. I hope he doesn't have anything that makes him even remotely connectable to anyone else. I want originality.

I want cool shit like this:

http://www.mktemple.com/smokekardsmokedodge.jpg
http://www.mktemple.com/smokekardscreen.jpg
http://www.mktemple.com/smokekardsmoke.jpg
http://www.mktemple.com/smokekardfatal.jpg

a cool fatal would be him wrapping around the opponent and making him choke

that'd be cool

I always felt that so much can be done with Smoke but that they didn't do much. Now that he's back, I think he'll be so much more interesting. He's not going to be human or cyborg. Anyway, in real life, there are more groups of "ninjas" than people know of.

The first of course was the Lin Kuei of China.
Some of their skills were taught to Tibetans and Koreans. The Trulkor are the Tibetan type of ninjas and the Sulsa (not Salsa!) are the Korean type of ninjas.

I think that it'd be cool if Smoke had Sulsa as one of his styles. Sulsa has to do with concealment and stuff like that but also, there are a lot of combat techniques in Sulsa, namely 4000+.

As for his storyline, it'll most likely involve characters such as Sub-Zero and Sektor. I hope he'll have his own unique special moves and not any of Scorpion's.

I'd like Smoke to be the one that kills Sektor.

Both Smoke and Subby deserve to get a few shots at him..but come on..Smoke really has a reason..so much of his life lossed.


Smoke is a truely noble friend....but what if he still had those evil tendecies..what if he betrays Sub-zero..i mean this is Deception and all.


great..now i got the image of Sub-zero following smoke into a room and then getting ambushed by Sektor and his clan.

then its bye bye subby

Sulsa sounds like a good stance for Smoke. I REALLY hope Smoke doesn't betray Sub-Zero; he has enough potenial traitors with Forst and Sereena as it is and one more would just be a wasted plotline. And we know the traitors will never succeed since killing off Sub-Zero would be suicide for Midway.

I still stand by Smoke having his trident harpoon, but I've thought of an interesting twist to make it different than Scorpion's: What if once he snagged an opponent instead of pulling them to him he flung them behind him? Think of the death trap setup possiblites It wouldn't be cheap since projectiles are fairly easy to dodge in 3-d. Any thoughts on that one?

For a weapon maybe he could have that axe he and Scorpion used in UMK3/MKT in their combos. Since Scorpion now uses ninja swords it wouldn't be ripping him off anymore.

Smoke is the bom!!!!!! I was psyched to hear that he was going to be in Decepetion. It has been far too long since the best cyborg has graced Mortal Kombat. I want his form to be a perfect balance of man and machine. I want his weapon to be a bladed ring, like the razor storm from Turok. But I have had enough of the this Bullshit, you've heard it please join me,"Smoke was just a rip off of Scorpion, he sucked, wawawa".Shut the hell up!!
Damn!!!! If you can stop wereing your ass as a hat and pay attention you would've noticed that every secret ninja in MK history had Scorpion's moves, and that included Noob Saibot, and Reptile. The only reason Smoke was a pallete swap was because he was a fan request. If he was to be a full character in MKU they would have put his icon on the dragon symbol. And as for MKT he was there as a favor to the fans. So quite your whinning, and your pissing and maoning and move on.
*Takes a deep breath*
Ah that felt great. Sorry if I got off track a little.

SmokeNc-017 Wrote: Smoke is the bom!!!!!! I was psyched to hear that he was going to be in Decepetion. It has been far too long since the best cyborg has graced Mortal Kombat. I want his form to be a perfect balance of man and machine. I want his weapon to be a bladed ring, like the razor storm from Turok. But I have had enough of the this Bullshit, you've heard it please join me,"Smoke was just a rip off of Scorpion, he sucked, wawawa".Shut the hell up!! Damn!!!! If you can stop wereing your ass as a hat and pay attention you would've noticed that every secret ninja in MK history had Scorpion's moves, and that included Noob Saibot, and Reptile. The only reason Smoke was a pallete swap was because he was a fan request. If he was to be a full character in MKU they would have put his icon on the dragon symbol. And as for MKT he was there as a favor to the fans. So quite your whinning, and your pissing and maoning and move on. *Takes a deep breath* Ah that felt great. Sorry if I got off track a little.

word smoke ruled back in the day and he'll kick even more ass now

new look, new moves...he's gonna kick everyone's ass

It is possible that Smoke might betray Sub-Zero, but I don't think that'd be a good storyline idea. He should help Sub-Zero out but also have a unique storyline of his own to make him stand out if you know what I mean.

I think a cool weapon for Smoke would be a Triple Crescent Blade. (ok...well I did make up the name since I don't know the name of this weapon but...for those of you who've watched Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and remember the scene where those 3 people were fighting Jade Fox and one of the people fighting her had this weapon that looked like 3 crescent shaped blades put together..)

So, Smoke isn't going to be completely human, But not completely robot?... So... He's going to be a cyborg?. I hope he isn't going to look corny. I just hope he still has the three-pronged harpoon. If they can have two bloody "Sub-Zero's" in MK:DA, Then Smoke can at least still have that one move- And it still has to come out of his chest.

Sorry I'm late, guys. I didn't want to post unless I had the time to fully write out my ideas.

Now because all the basic questions have already been asked(What he'll look like, is he human, ect.), I'm going to skip most of that(read: not all). I'm surprised no one has asked the million dollar question yet: Where the fuck has Smoke been since MK3? Let's start with the obvious choices.

Most likely answer would be the living forest. Two very signicant reasons for this would be A) this game takes place in the outworld and B) Smoke is one of the few warriors who has the stealth and survival skills to be able to take refuge in the place. I'm going to avoid plugging my fanfic at all costs, but I must also point out that if Smoke is no longer a cyborg, then there may be a large possibility that after his service in MK3, he was rewarded with his human form and has been training under Fujin to master his air/Smoke ability.

So that's my speculation to that question. Now let's move on to his present condition. Based on rumors, Smoke is now a manifestation of actual smoke which projects itself into a humanoid figure(at least to my understanding). So if this is the case(which I do believe it is), allow me to represent my theories.

Mostly likely, whether he's human or cyborg, Smoke has been training his ass off since the third tournament. Therefore, he may have mastered his powers to the point where he can fully utilize his body into an air-based weapon. Thus, Smoke is many times more powerful. So really, he could be human or cyborg in MKD, but is now in his most powerful state of being. But still, it's also possible that he puts himself in this mystic condition because it's the closest he'll ever be to becoming human again(if he's a cyborg). All I know is that whenever a character becomes fully embodied in their own forte, it usually means they've reached "perfection", or at least arrived at the pinnacle of their power.

In conclusion, I don't think Smoke returned to Kombat, I think kombat returned to Smoke. Once the Dragon King took form, the outworld became a breeding ground for conflict, and therefore I believe either Subzero ran into Smoke during this conflict, or Smoke left his sanctuary in the midst of disturbance and discovered his ol' pal Sub was on his turf.

Smoke has always been one of the more tragic character of MK. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he's been absent from kombat due to his high attendanace of daily therapy. By the word's purest definition, Smoke was raped.

Interesting theories Temp but there wasn't a "third tournament". Smoke most likely went to the Living Forest after he helped out Sub-Zero.

Sub-Zero_7th Wrote: Interesting theories Temp but there wasn't a "third tournament". Smoke most likely went to the Living Forest after he helped out Sub-Zero.

Ah, that's right. But you get the idea, lol.

good theories indeed.

Smoke is pretty damn tragic...i bet he doesn't even want to fight..but he knows he must

maybe he's got that spider-man thing

he did his time..he repent his evil deeds..he learned his lesson..but maybe after that horrible robot experience and those times he tried to kill his friend, he is tired of the fight...i know that i'd be tired.

i agree that something must happen to make him fight.

it makes sense to have him in the living forest and i imagine him to always take the form of mist and roam freely there...but then he does see the DK and all the horror and then someone dies (fujin?) and he has to fight...not for revenge...no Smoke is better than that..he fights for a reason....if he lost everything..he must go back to the only thing that gave his life meaning...oncce a warrior..always a warrior..welcome back smoke!

mister_satan666 Wrote: good theories indeed. Smoke is pretty damn tragic...i bet he doesn't even want to fight..but he knows he must maybe he's got that spider-man thing he did his time..he repent his evil deeds..he learned his lesson..but maybe after that horrible robot experience and those times he tried to kill his friend, he is tired of the fight...i know that i'd be tired. i agree that something must happen to make him fight. it makes sense to have him in the living forest and i imagine him to always take the form of mist and roam freely there...but then he does see the DK and all the horror and then someone dies (fujin?) and he has to fight...not for revenge...no Smoke is better than that..he fights for a reason....if he lost everything..he must go back to the only thing that gave his life meaning...oncce a warrior..always a warrior..welcome back smoke!

That's true. Every MK character has their "Fuel" per say. I too don't believe Smoke is the type to go out for revenge. He's been aquainted with emotional and physical pain in it's purest form, and I don't think he could bring himself to inflict it unless he absolutely had to.

And that brings us back to the fuels. Sub's fuel was justice. He was stabbed in the back and escaped death by a hair, and therefore lives his trying to wash away such inhumanity. Now look at Scorpion. His fuel was hatred, and after five games he hasn't accomplished shit.

I think Smoke has learned the value of life, and probably finds true purpose in protecting it, along with the companionship of his ally. I think that sort of fuel is far greater than hatred could ever reach.