Oh you of little faith. I'm still optimistic about the gameplay of MK:DA. As opposed to the completely die-hard, I was happy with MK:DA's engine, but I felt it could be improved. I feel it HAS been improved with MK:D, and the combo-breakers I think are a GOOD idea, and I really doubt that it will be as simple as you people state it to be. Timing will of course play a part in it, much like Soul Calibur's "soul break(?)" where, if you timed your attack right, you could throw your opponent's attack off guard, but only if you timed it at the same time he attacked. It's a part of the strategy. I still believe Konquest mode will be fun, but not in-depth, since it wasn't the focus, and the mini-games are just that: MINI-games, not complete games in and of themselves. Also, gameplay wise, you people have whined and whined about what was wrong with MK:D, and they've answered nearly all of your prayers: interactive, multi-layered battle arenas, double fatalities, stage fatalities, the uppercut (YEAH!), more martial arts styles, more combo possibilities... but the sheer notion of an universal combo breaker has you up in arms. I say it's good, since it prevents MK:D from become a 3-D Killer Instinct (you know, the game with the 10-minute combos that gives you time to eat, sleep, and make some coffee?). The game will be good. Midway's losing sleep to guarantee us that. MK:DA was good, MK:D will be better. Fatality.

Amen.

Garlador Wrote: Oh you of little faith. I'm still optimistic about the gameplay of MK:DA. As opposed to the completely die-hard, I was happy with MK:DA's engine, but I felt it could be improved. I feel it HAS been improved with MK:D, and the combo-breakers I think are a GOOD idea, and I really doubt that it will be as simple as you people state it to be. Timing will of course play a part in it, much like Soul Calibur's "soul break(?)" where, if you timed your attack right, you could throw your opponent's attack off guard, but only if you timed it at the same time he attacked. It's a part of the strategy.

Pressing Forward + Block is nothing like counters in Soul Calibur (and Soul Calibur has similar problems, but its far beyond MK). Midway enjoys to half-ass things, and as most people have already said, it'll probably just be constant breaking.

Garlador Wrote: I still believe Konquest mode will be fun, but not in-depth, since it wasn't the focus, and the mini-games are just that: MINI-games, not complete games in and of themselves. Also, gameplay wise, you people have whined and whined about what was wrong with MK:D, and they've answered nearly all of your prayers: interactive, multi-layered battle arenas, double fatalities, stage fatalities, the uppercut (YEAH!), more martial arts styles, more combo possibilities... but the sheer notion of an universal combo breaker has you up in arms.

No, WE haven't (the people who enjoy gameplay more than anything else) but its the rest of the fucking scrubs who enjoy shit like fatalities above all else. If you're going to add in fatalities and multi-tiered stages, give me a reason to get there in the first place. Speed is the only thing I see improved, and dear god I still hoping throwing isn't blockable.

Garlador Wrote: I say it's good, since it prevents MK:D from become a 3-D Killer Instinct (you know, the game with the 10-minute combos that gives you time to eat, sleep, and make some coffee?). The game will be good. Midway's losing sleep to guarantee us that. MK:DA was good, MK:D will be better. Fatality.

Killer Instinct? 10 minutes? Wow, you must've sucked at the game. It required you to be able to know a combo breaker so it wouldn't BE constant breaking.

=B,F+2,3- C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER.

You might have taken shots, but his ass is on the ground.

MK:DA was crap. MK:D will be better, but at this rate still crap. As a game, Mortal Kombat's good. As a fighting game, it fucking sucks. They've shown more enthusiasm in the mini-games than the actual fighting! Shit, why not just scrap the whole fighting system and label it Mortal Kombat Karnival?

Um .... correct me if im wrong. But this is "MORTAL KOMBAT" ... not DOA, not VF .... not Tekken or Soul Calibur. This is Mortal Kombat. Mortal Kombat has ALWAYS relied on Characters, Story, and Over the Top gore. This game wouldnt have made a red fucking cent if it was based SOLEY on its fighting engine. So if you dont think the fighting engine is complex enough, wait for Tekken 5. Its that dam simple. I can see why people would be pissed, but the game was never about a GREAT fighting engine. And you know what , I could give a shit, as long as there is a bunch of fatalities and death traps and STORY.
Another thing too ..... Juggling is cheap, and it sucks and im glad you are limeted to how long you oppenent can be hit up in the air. Everyone wants a realistic fighting engine, yet you bitch because you cant keep a guy up in the air the whole match.

WoW..... I'm so sorry for you MKJokes....

I don't know why ANY of you scrubs are in such "Shock" and "Awe" I'm still shocked this games even had a fan base since MK2.

All y'all shut the fuck up, get in a real game like Soul Calibur or Tekken or go to 2D 3rd Strike OWNS hardcore, so does the KOF series.
Or do like my good friend MENTHOL did, and just quit fighting games, plug up your X-cocks & play HALO til HALO2 comes out & be FPS homos.


Man.... *shakes head* you people suck, Ed Boon sucks.... if him & his team of FLUNKIES can play what garbage they put out last time & compare it to ANY standards of which fighters are held to, they are just WHACK.

Bottomline: they took suckas for a ride a long time ago, just put the same garbage on the self everytime with a better lookin' wrapper & some "FATALITIES" ..... you people make me sick.

do me a favor, go get your favorite winter coat, put it over your head & blindly run out in traffic.

Wow. I got some heat. It's call exaggeration. 10 minute combos should be read as "really long combos." You don't have a life-bar long enough to take 10 minutes... *sigh* Why do I bother.
But, yeah, I agree with the above statement. MK was MK because it had the gore. That's how it differintiated itself from Street Fighter and the million other fighters of the 90s. If I'm not mistaken, it still have the great cast of characters, the over-the-top gore and fatalities, and detailed storylines... just a better fighting engine. I see no reason to complain about it if you had no problem with the original games. And, I haven't played MK:D, so my guessing on the blocking system in MK:D was just that: a guess. I'll have to see it in action to make a final assumption. Wait; I take that back. I'll have to play the game first-hand to tell you if the game is good or not anyways. Until it is released, I can only speculate... just like everyone else. Fatality.

It is beyond me why some people are even here. Obviously, nothing that is created by Midway or Ed Boon will ever possibly please you.

God forbid that a FIGHTING game markets something besides FIGHTING. Fucking hell, can't Mortal Kombat advertise a NEW aspect, something besides a 1v1 aspect to try and grab new players, without the so called "fans" cursing Boon, burning down Midway, and screaming that "the end is near!!" They are obviously very excited about these new additions, why can't you be too. Most the people that are in this thread don't seem to be giving a hopeful or optimistic shit about this game, so why even waste your time bitching about something you aren't going to be happy with, a decision which you made long before recent announcements.

I honestly don't care what anyone else thinks about this game, I've played the other games, and I've always been more satisfied with Mortal Kombat games, so I refer to myself as a fan. But some of you, I just don't know.

I said it a while ago, along with many, many, many other long time MK fans out there.

Why even begin to get involved with silly @ss n00blet sh*t like konquest mode or what have you, if you can't even smooth out and polish the existing fighting engine? You know, that little thing that your entire fighting game is based on. In theory, the fighting engine used in any fighting game should be tight as a drum before any other game feature is even considered. The extra MK characters, new storyline, and other added features are great of course, but really, is there anyone here that cannot honestly agree with the above statement regarding gameplay?

That said, knowing MK's track record I don't see how any old school "Kombatant" could be in the least bit surprised with MK:D. I mean seriously, is this news? Ed Boon, with all due respect to him, has been arguably running MK into the ground since MK2.

I guess that MK:D will be released as the nitch, quasi-fighting game, that it was always meant to be. Not that at least half of the "special" people in this forum would know and/or care regardless.

My theory, the little red lights that pop up when you are fighting, what if that was your oppurtunity to break? The lights flash very quickly, so the timing on them would really be a challenge to master. Really though, what other purpose would those lights serve aside from this?

Wanderer, you really need to chill out man. You don't know for 100% certainty if it is a breaker at any point. For one, you're quoting a game mag, for two, it's Gamepro. And they've NEVER made mistakes previewing/reviewing games.

I'm glad to hear you say that atleast MK is a good game. I was beginning to wonder why you even came here. I have never once seen any post by you saying anything positive about MK:DA or MK:D.

I'm not saying I wouldn't also like to see some things changed in MK:DA's engine. I think everybody would like something or other changed to improve the gameplay. But, you still don't know the facts about how exactly this combo breaker will work, and even if you did, things can change before the release.

To the people saying "WTF is Boon doing??!?!?!?". He's doing exactly what the majority of people want. I can say with 100% certainty, after MK:DA came out, the major complaints were 1) only one fatality per character. 2) no stage fatality's. And 3) the obscene amount of worthless content in the krypt. I never ever once saw a topic about the gameplay of MK:DA untill about 2 months before E3. At this point, the game was already what? 1 year and 9 months into production? You expect Boon at that point to scrap the whole game and start over because NOW he see's people complaining about the engine?

Menthol, sorry man, but you really need to calm down. Just because someone actually likes the MK:Da system does not mean that is the only fighting game they have ever played. That's the most ignorant comment I've ever heard. For all you know he has every fighting game ever released in the US. Different people like different things, and there's no reason to cut someone down because they like something that you don't.

There's 3 kinds of fighting game fans in the world. The casual fighter, the fighting fan, and the Fighting purist. It's not hard to tell that most people that are cussing about this combo breaker are fighting purist. And if you are a purist, that's fine. The problem I have with this whole thing is that you are basing your thoughts off of 2 sentences from a game magazine that is notorious for being shitty. You could at the very least try to keep an open mind and wait to see how it is incorporated into the game for yourself. There is bound to be a video showcasing it. And if by some chance there isn't, spend the $6.50 to rent it first, or wait for someone to post about it here after the game is released.

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The above dots represent my hate for you sorry ass LOSERS that do not have enough common sense to know when to have a gripe and or LIFE about a game.

Just admit, the game SUCKS now & is gonna suck with sprinkles on top.

Just FACE that fact. Don't let Mr Boon slap a jimmy on & lube you faggots up with utter WORTHLESS shit like MKCHESS, wtf?! *puts gun in own mouth*

Someone please get these 48yr old losers off this board.

Or do like my good friend MENTHOL did, and just quit fighting games, plug up your X-cocks & play HALO til HALO2 comes out & be FPS homos.

So you and your friend MENTHOL quit fighting games and turned into FPS homos?

Geez, I'm thankful you didn't go into detail with your FPS sexcapades and adventures, that's something that should be kept between you 2 guys.

MK needs to go back to its roots 2-d never gets old its classic.Most of the younger fans never even knew how great mk was in 2-d and going to the arcades and playing them.3-d is ok for games that where always in 3-d like tekken and soul crapper.I just find those games boring sure the fighting system is ok. But its to cartoonish i can accept mk in 3-d i guess but its hard to because mk isnt like it use to be now its not even focus on gameplay.Its a damn shame really.

I was talking to my friend. who has contacts with midway. the fighting engine is EXACTLY the same but with a few touchups with the combos. and its 15% faster...... this blows...

Fighting needs to come FIRST in a fighting game. Trying to hide the fact your engine is shit by adding content isn't justifying anything. Sure, add all sorts of crap, but make sure your engine is GOOD before you start crap like that. I use to like MK. I thought it was fun and I liked the story and characters. That is, until about MKT. They began seriously milking the shit out MK. As it was the same crap as before. Deadly Alliance was FINE except for one very important aspect: The fighting engine. Juggles, combos, the works. It was awful. I was happy with one fatality, 18 different characters, and one layered stages. But no, all of the fucking scrubs had to bitch about that because they couldn't play a fighting game to save their ass.

Now its MY turn to bitch. MK7 better pick up the slack, because MK:D isn't looking good in the fighting department. I hope the promised "Dash" doesn't look like the breaker.


(Well, I'm off for a few days. I hope my thread has some good arguments when I come back. A lot of you people on the opposing side are doing pretty good and making good points, and arguments are fun.)

Good one souledge, why must you sport that name? Have you even placed at any soul calibur events? better yet, do you even play the fucking game? Cause I don't know you.

and if your popular that shit must be in New Mexico or something.

B00gieman Wrote: ............................. The above dots represent my hate for you sorry ass LOSERS that do not have enough common sense to know when to have a gripe and or LIFE about a game. Just admit, the game SUCKS now & is gonna suck with sprinkles on top. Just FACE that fact. Don't let Mr Boon slap a jimmy on & lube you faggots up with utter WORTHLESS shit like MKCHESS, wtf?! *puts gun in own mouth* Someone please get these 48yr old losers off this board.

Great, we've established that you hate MK, hate Boon, hate Midway. So get the fuck out. What the hell are you doing here? Do you have anything constructive to add to a topic? Or are you just hear to call other people names? Do you get picked on at school and then come to a board like this to try and sound like a bad ass?

Here is a novel approach, since YOU don't like MK, Boon, OR Midway, why don't YOU leave this board eh?

I think you guys are taking this a bit out of proportions. It's just a magazine article. Hell, for all we know, it might be old and they dumped the idea.

But seriously, I don't think we should be complaining about the gameplay until we pick up a controller and play the game itself. Just a recommendation, since I believe some of you are over reacting to this.

Or maybe I'm mistakin'. Who knows...

"Great, we've established that you hate MK, hate Boon, hate Midway. So get the fuck out. What the hell are you doing here? Do you have anything constructive to add to a topic? Or are you just hear to call other people names? Do you get picked on at school and then come to a board like this to try and sound like a bad ass?

Here is a novel approach, since YOU don't like MK, Boon, OR Midway, why don't YOU leave this board eh?"




WoW....just WoW....
unlike 99.999999% of you that are in totaly DENIAL about this game, I take fighters seriously.... it shows... www.thevgames.com peep the Dallas regionals ho bag.

Stop ride'n Boon's bloat & fuckin' suck it up & play a real FIGHTER. you are a gaywod.

Well that's the first steady net name I got back when SoulEdge came out at the arcades and I get tired of remembering different log ins on message boards so I stuck with it on almost every place I post. I don't think I need to meet any requirements to sport a name on the internet, although I do like SoulBlade on PSX more than Soul Calibur, but it's mostly due to nostalgia and the music.

Sad to say I've never been in any Soul Calibur events or competitions since there haven't been any in my area, all they've had here aside from lonely MvsC2, Tekken 4 and VF4 machines are DDR and Dance machine competitions, and I'm afraid I'm not a good dancer.

B00gieman Wrote: "Great, we've established that you hate MK, hate Boon, hate Midway. So get the fuck out. What the hell are you doing here? Do you have anything constructive to add to a topic? Or are you just hear to call other people names? Do you get picked on at school and then come to a board like this to try and sound like a bad ass? Here is a novel approach, since YOU don't like MK, Boon, OR Midway, why don't YOU leave this board eh?" WoW....just WoW.... unlike 99.999999% of you that are in totaly DENIAL about this game, I take fighters seriously.... it shows... www.thevgames.com peep the Dallas regionals ho bag. Stop ride'n Boon's bloat & fuckin' suck it up & play a real FIGHTER. you are a gaywod.

You hate fighters, but you know what a real fighter is? Just FYI on PS2 alone I own MK:DA, Tekken Tag, Tekken 4, VF4, VF4 Evo, Capcom vs SNK 2, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, DOA2. Hell, I even own Budokai 1 & 2.

I'm not at all ashamed to admit that most of those games are ahead of MK:DA in gameplay. But you know what? MK:DA had other things that make it a good game. Story, vivid and diverse characters, and yes fatality's. DO any of those other fighters have those things? No. Gameplay is not everything to everybody.

So I ask you, what is more sad? The fact that I come to a MK website because I like to talk about MK. Or the fact that you hate MK and come here to call people names and talk about how much it sucks?

man wtf? where did I say I hate all fighters? man you a junkie and I hate to tell you but only a handful of the fighters you mentioned are worth a damn....

MAN you suck ... and don't get me started on the Dragon Ball Z game, wow, whoever wasted money on that game should SERIOUSLY break in up into pieces, put it in a bowl, pour some milk on it and put a spoon in that shit, cause it's fucking DONE

i like the system used in MK GOLD< u could draw weopens, then throw the weopons at your oponent, then pick the weopons up and throw them again, u could pick up a skull or rock, and throw it repeataly at your oponent, or use your oponets weopons against them, or throw them.

you could run up and rail the shit out of them

you could throw fireballs and shit at them

but, in deception u cant throw shit, and fireballs and projectiles asre non existant, i mean back forward A for a spear? WTF?

mack the button movemenst something you can pull off in mid combat, not something that needs plenty of space, hours of practice, and some good luck in ur oponent not jump kicking ur ass, o wait jumb kicks/punches and upercuts where removed from the game as well

Some ideas for Mkdeception!

This thread is interesting, but really necessary? If MKD turns out really bad, sell your copy and get a game you might like. Problem solved, right? Just saying....................

B00gieman Wrote: ............................. The above dots represent my hate for you sorry ass LOSERS that do not have enough common sense to know when to have a gripe and or LIFE about a game. Just admit, the game SUCKS now & is gonna suck with sprinkles on top. Just FACE that fact. Don't let Mr Boon slap a jimmy on & lube you faggots up with utter WORTHLESS shit like MKCHESS, wtf?! *puts gun in own mouth* Someone please get these 48yr old losers off this board.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man, I'm all out of ideas and I won't explain myself anymore.

This game looks like it plays horrible. All of you who think oterwise will see when the game comes out. It will play horrible. Online component will suck because the gameplay is just not there.