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04/17/2006 02:09 PM (UTC)
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Hey Flstyle
Did u come on this site to criticize MK?
if u think all the MK games r shit then why the fuck did u join MKO?
I personally dont think MKDA and MKD were that bad. But you must know just by screenshots and information that MKA is going to be good.


Did you come to this site to make yourself look retarded by posting in a thread in which you have no bloody clue as to what is being discussed?
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04/17/2006 02:28 PM (UTC)
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No, Secondgen.
But half of these people are critisizing a game that hasn't even came out yet! I just dont think they can judge this early. Thats the only point i wanted to get across. I just think its sad that this arguement has gone on for 22 pages when weve already all reached a conclusion.
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04/17/2006 02:32 PM (UTC)
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sydney Wrote:
Hey Flstyle
Did u come on this site to criticize MK?
if u think all the MK games r shit then why the fuck did u join MKO?

No, he came here because he likes MK and wants to see it improve. The game hasn't improved over the last couple of installments, and people like FLS want to see the game become better than games like Tekken, Soul Calibur, etc.
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04/17/2006 02:37 PM (UTC)
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Right then.
I am just getting a point across. i didnt mean any offence. I just think that MK:DA and MK:D weren't as bad as he made out. There is room for improvement however. I just think people should give MKA a little bit more of a chance.
The game play was badly designed period.

They are full of glitches, bad design choices, etc...

People that know more about this stuff, say its bad because it is.

Not just to be mean

If the community starts to realize this, the developers will also. That'll in theory cause them to try and make the game better, to up sales.

If nobody complains about the quality of the product, they won't be as willing to improve it to the level required.
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04/17/2006 04:09 PM (UTC)
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sydney Wrote:
Right then.
I am just getting a point across. i didnt mean any offence. I just think that MK:DA and MK:D weren't as bad as he made out. There is room for improvement however. I just think people should give MKA a little bit more of a chance.


Read this thread. Make sure you watch the video.

Finished? Good. Now, all of the things in that video are made possible by MKD's core mechanics, mechanics that look to be unchanged for the next installment, mechanics that have actually gone unchanged since MKDA. So if the core mechanics aren't changed, how can the problems be fixed? If the problems will not be fixed (we can assume they won't because the core mechanics haven't changed, 'natch), how is it reasonable to expect people who want a better fighting game to give MKA a "little bit more of a chance"?

I don't mean to jump down your throat, but you should take the time to do a bit more research before posting in a given topic. These things have been discussed since '02. If you don't think MK's gameplay is bad, that's fine. Whatever. But at least take the time to figure out why some people do think it's bad before posting.
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04/17/2006 04:10 PM (UTC)
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Good point actually. The more complaints made, the more MK will be improved.
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04/17/2006 04:28 PM (UTC)
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Well no matter how much you people hate the fighting engine, you are going to get this game. You wouldn't be here if you didn't plan on getting it.

And anyway, this will be the last time that they are using this fighting engine.

And I think that this game is looking pretty good so far, and I'm guessing that the lack of videos means that they are working on the gameplay and then going to release more videos when it's all looking better.
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04/17/2006 04:33 PM (UTC)
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yer. I hope if there is endingz in MKA are more like MK4's and actually move. In MK:DA and MK:D they are just two or three pictures with writing. It would be better if they were actual cinematics.
For around 60 characters, IMO cinematic endings are out of the question. It takes too long to make and cost too much money. Even for real time ones like MK4. It's just not necessary...

I'm expecting more picture endings, like we've been getting.


Anyway, this doesn't have anything to do with the topic, aside from the idea of funds and time affecting the game play design in the same manner.

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04/17/2006 05:07 PM (UTC)
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I thought of a way they could have a bigger game. They coul but the Kak on a different disc to save memory so they'sd be two discs, A play disk and a KaK disc. The Custom fighters could be loaded off the memory card for play. that would save memory on the other disc (The play disc) So they could cram more features into the game.
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04/17/2006 08:09 PM (UTC)
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I thought of a way they could have a bigger game. They coul but the Kak on a different disc to save memory so they'sd be two discs, A play disk and a KaK disc. The Custom fighters could be loaded off the memory card for play. that would save memory on the other disc (The play disc) So they could cram more features into the game.


But this thread is for wanting better gameplay, cramming more features means even less time spent on fixing the gameplay mechanics.
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04/17/2006 10:36 PM (UTC)
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Cant the game just wait longer. If it comes out later then they have more time so they can cram a lot on and configure the mechanics and game engines and graphics and stuff. It would be worth it, i think.
Time = money

MK games don't tend to get pushed back, hell..., they are released unfinished.

It costs them money to delay the game, and they are in the business of making money, not loosing it. Even if it means lowering the quality standard of their product.

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04/17/2006 11:40 PM (UTC)
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Time = money

MK games don't tend to get pushed back, hell..., they are released unfinished.


It costs them money to delay the game, and they are in the business of making money, not loosing it. Even if it means lowering the quality standard of their product.



Not to mention MK is pretty much the only thing keeping Midway alive right now.
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04/17/2006 11:47 PM (UTC)
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yer. i guess your right. lets just have our fngers crossed that its as good as its cracked up to be! lol!grin
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04/17/2006 11:58 PM (UTC)
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It's official, MKA will be crap.



The moves are even faster than before, its a guessing game again....

"The new Parry system" - DA poor reversals with a new name.

When Boon was asked about Wake up game (good job MKO for asking) he just started mumbling, clearly, we will not have anything.

You can take your created character online?? wtf?? This will ruin online.

And for those who believe Boon who keeps saying they will the test the bosses and bla bla bla...... Midway couldn't test 24 characters you really think they will fully test 60?

if u don't like it, quit bitchin' like a fuckin' baby and don't buy the game. making this whole thread was pointless because you can just do a simple thing and not buy the damn game instead of complainin'. this MK is the last of it's gameplay so instead of bitchin' like a puss, wait for the next MK for PS3.
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04/18/2006 12:00 AM (UTC)
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hjs-Q Wrote:
It's official, MKA will be crap.



The moves are even faster than before, its a guessing game again....

"The new Parry system" - DA poor reversals with a new name.

When Boon was asked about Wake up game (good job MKO for asking) he just started mumbling, clearly, we will not have anything.

You can take your created character online?? wtf?? This will ruin online.

And for those who believe Boon who keeps saying they will the test the bosses and bla bla bla...... Midway couldn't test 24 characters you really think they will fully test 60?

if u don't like it, quit bitchin' like a fuckin' baby and don't buy the game. making this whole thread was pointless because you can just do a simple thing and not buy the damn game instead of complainin'. this MK is the last of it's gameplay so instead of bitchin' like a puss, wait for the next MK for PS3.


*bangs head against the wall*
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04/18/2006 12:02 AM (UTC)
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fijikungfu Wrote:
hjs-Q Wrote:
It's official, MKA will be crap.



The moves are even faster than before, its a guessing game again....

"The new Parry system" - DA poor reversals with a new name.

When Boon was asked about Wake up game (good job MKO for asking) he just started mumbling, clearly, we will not have anything.

You can take your created character online?? wtf?? This will ruin online.

And for those who believe Boon who keeps saying they will the test the bosses and bla bla bla...... Midway couldn't test 24 characters you really think they will fully test 60?

if u don't like it, quit bitchin' like a fuckin' baby and don't buy the game. making this whole thread was pointless because you can just do a simple thing and not buy the damn game instead of complainin'. this MK is the last of it's gameplay so instead of bitchin' like a puss, wait for the next MK for PS3.


*bangs head against the wall*

seriously this is bull
The point of threads like this is to help make MK a better fighting game.

By stating what needs fixing, many people inevitably become educated.

If people don't state the problem, attention won't be drawn to it.

How can threads like this have an effect on the developers of MK?

Word spreads...

The more people understand what needs fixing, the more it will be talked about and the more Midway will hear about it.
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04/18/2006 01:25 AM (UTC)
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Did anyone ever play the game Twisted Metal Black? I hope the endings in MKA are like that. While I know they won't be, I hope they make them like that in the future. IMO, the endings for TMB are probably the best kinds of endings.
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04/18/2006 01:46 AM (UTC)
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fijikungfu Wrote:
hjs-Q Wrote:
It's official, MKA will be crap.
The moves are even faster than before, its a guessing game again....
"The new Parry system" - DA poor reversals with a new name.
When Boon was asked about Wake up game (good job MKO for asking) he just started mumbling, clearly, we will not have anything.
You can take your created character online?? wtf?? This will ruin online.
And for those who believe Boon who keeps saying they will the test the bosses and bla bla bla...... Midway couldn't test 24 characters you really think they will fully test 60?

if u don't like it, quit bitchin' like a fuckin' baby and don't buy the game. making this whole thread was pointless because you can just do a simple thing and not buy the damn game instead of complainin'. this MK is the last of it's gameplay so instead of bitchin' like a puss, wait for the next MK for PS3.

Now I know why everyone hates n00bs so much. Read part of this thread and you'll understand
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04/18/2006 02:56 AM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
fijikungfu Wrote:
hjs-Q Wrote:
It's official, MKA will be crap.
The moves are even faster than before, its a guessing game again....
"The new Parry system" - DA poor reversals with a new name.
When Boon was asked about Wake up game (good job MKO for asking) he just started mumbling, clearly, we will not have anything.
You can take your created character online?? wtf?? This will ruin online.
And for those who believe Boon who keeps saying they will the test the bosses and bla bla bla...... Midway couldn't test 24 characters you really think they will fully test 60?

if u don't like it, quit bitchin' like a fuckin' baby and don't buy the game. making this whole thread was pointless because you can just do a simple thing and not buy the damn game instead of complainin'. this MK is the last of it's gameplay so instead of bitchin' like a puss, wait for the next MK for PS3.

Now I know why everyone hates n00bs so much. Read part of this thread and you'll understand

yo, i ain't a noob
You come off as someone who is uninformed.

I suggest you do some research on the subject of game play before you start snapping at people.
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04/18/2006 03:13 AM (UTC)
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You come off as someone who is uninformed.


I suggest you do some research on the subject of game play before you start snapping at people.

I did, I downloaded all the videos and screenshots and watch them all the time. the parry system is okay and it ain't bad
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