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Nic-V Wrote:
To support the developers with more money?
allenella Wrote:
And why buy (IF its a passable game), when you can rent!
And why buy (IF its a passable game), when you can rent!
To support the developers with more money?
But what if they use that money for another MK vs DC game? I mean buying the game sends the message it's okay.
Deathbearer Wrote:
But what if they use that money for another MK vs DC game? I mean buying the game sends the message it's okay.
Nic-V Wrote:
To support the developers with more money?
allenella Wrote:
And why buy (IF its a passable game), when you can rent!
And why buy (IF its a passable game), when you can rent!
To support the developers with more money?
But what if they use that money for another MK vs DC game? I mean buying the game sends the message it's okay.
Well we'll just have to wait and see but I believe in the next MK being a REAL MK
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mastermalone Wrote:
Hey, never once in my post did I even mention the word "GRAPHICS." I knew exactly what you meant by your original post. That is the reason why I used the word "ANIMATION." The debate was never about graphics man, I have no Idea where you got that from by reading my response. The reason that I did not mention UMK3//Trillogy etc is because the animation on those games is only marginally better than MKII's. I saw no point.
The animation for movement and attacks in the older MK games does not even come close to the smoother looking animations that are being produced by the motion capture techniques of the new MK 3D engine. That is a fact, not an opinion. The reason why both Street Fighter 4's and MK vs DCU's attack animations look choppy compared to Tekken 5/6, VF5, and Soul Calibur 4's is because SF and MK are twitch fighters. SF and MK games rely more on quick reflexes to buffer and string moves together than the other fighters. The animations are cut short to ensure the players have better control response(Although MKD/MKA were both sluggish).
They are based on 2D gameplay which has always been that way. I'm sure you already knew that. Anyway.... I don't believe I was the one "skimming" through posts. Based on the resonse you gave, I believe you were the "skimmer", but it's all good man.
Peace
allenella Wrote: Once again, to clarify.... ANIMATION(body limb movement) NOT GRAPHICS!!
I see you didn't put down on MK 3/UMK3/ MKT. MK II and MK 4 for its time and the tech that was available was good. People played it in the arcade, liked it, and got for it for consoles. If the current technology was there in the 90's, possibilities of these games of looking better is certain. Therefore I do not disagree that MK VS DC is superior in terms of GRAPHICS to old MK games. But I wasn't comparing GRAPHICS in the first place!! These games were ANIMATED (body limb movement) better.
And I'm very glad that you agree that TEKKEN 5/6, VF 5 or SC has better ANIMATION(body limb movement) than MK vs DC.
BTW I didn't rant/whine/bitch about the game having DC characters and what not. JUST the ANIMATION (body limb movement). Don't ASSUME or make an ASS of U & ME. Please stop skimming through messages!! Not to be rude to you, please read up on the difference of ANIMATION and GRAPHICS!
And why buy (IF its a passable game), when you can rent!
I see you didn't put down on MK 3/UMK3/ MKT. MK II and MK 4 for its time and the tech that was available was good. People played it in the arcade, liked it, and got for it for consoles. If the current technology was there in the 90's, possibilities of these games of looking better is certain. Therefore I do not disagree that MK VS DC is superior in terms of GRAPHICS to old MK games. But I wasn't comparing GRAPHICS in the first place!! These games were ANIMATED (body limb movement) better.
And I'm very glad that you agree that TEKKEN 5/6, VF 5 or SC has better ANIMATION(body limb movement) than MK vs DC.
BTW I didn't rant/whine/bitch about the game having DC characters and what not. JUST the ANIMATION (body limb movement). Don't ASSUME or make an ASS of U & ME. Please stop skimming through messages!! Not to be rude to you, please read up on the difference of ANIMATION and GRAPHICS!
And why buy (IF its a passable game), when you can rent!
Hey, never once in my post did I even mention the word "GRAPHICS." I knew exactly what you meant by your original post. That is the reason why I used the word "ANIMATION." The debate was never about graphics man, I have no Idea where you got that from by reading my response. The reason that I did not mention UMK3//Trillogy etc is because the animation on those games is only marginally better than MKII's. I saw no point.
The animation for movement and attacks in the older MK games does not even come close to the smoother looking animations that are being produced by the motion capture techniques of the new MK 3D engine. That is a fact, not an opinion. The reason why both Street Fighter 4's and MK vs DCU's attack animations look choppy compared to Tekken 5/6, VF5, and Soul Calibur 4's is because SF and MK are twitch fighters. SF and MK games rely more on quick reflexes to buffer and string moves together than the other fighters. The animations are cut short to ensure the players have better control response(Although MKD/MKA were both sluggish).
They are based on 2D gameplay which has always been that way. I'm sure you already knew that. Anyway.... I don't believe I was the one "skimming" through posts. Based on the resonse you gave, I believe you were the "skimmer", but it's all good man.
Peace
Twitch fighter, hahahaha.
Animation being cut just makes the big picture look bad! Thanks for that!
Once again. ANIMATION(Body limb movement). I guess you've seen the videos and seen the how unrealistic it looks. AS usual you didn't understand what I was trying to say.
The old MK games looked realistic(please don't say because it had digitized characters as MK 4 also had similar animation) and what I am trying to get at is this... If a character did a standing side kick, it looked like how a person in real life would do it. If a character did a crouching kick, it would look like the real thing, ... so on and so forth. A normal front kick shouldn't look like the abs are made of steel and can't be bent. There is more...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXMDC8P4Kog See, what I mean
Now, about skimming through messages. Since you have been ranting about MK Vs DC having better animation, it took you so many messages to tell me what you were trying to get at. In my case, while other people understood what I was trying get at. I kept writing BODY LIMB MOVEMENT. To talk about cooler/smoother animation would either mean graphics or frames(in this case frames).
I asked you stop skimming through posts is because you went an made ASS of U and ME by talking DC characters being the game and thats why this game might suck! Once again you went and skimmed through the posts. Please READ more about ANIMATION(classic and current gen). Or better, take classes and practice!!
Like you said, it all good!
allenella Wrote:Twitch fighter, hahahaha. That's a funny term! Never thought of old MK games being TWITCH fighters especially SF!
Animation being cut just makes the big picture look bad! Thanks for that!
Once again. ANIMATION(Body limb movement). I guess you've seen the videos and seen the how unrealistic it looks. AS usual you didn't understand what I was trying to say.
The old MK games looked realistic(please don't say because it had digitized characters as MK 4 also had similar animation) and what I am trying to get at is this... If a character did a standing side kick, it looked like how a person in real life would do it. If a character did a crouching kick, it would look like the real thing, ... so on and so forth. A normal front kick shouldn't look like the abs are made of steel and can't be bent. There is more...
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXMDC8P4Kog See, what I mean
Now, about skimming through messages. Since you have been ranting about MK Vs DC having better animation, it took you so many messages to tell me what you were trying to get at. In my case, while other people understood what I was trying get at. I kept writing BODY LIMB MOVEMENT. To talk about cooler/smoother animation would either mean graphics or frames(in this case frames).
I asked you stop skimming through posts is because you went an made ASS of U and ME by talking DC characters being the game and thats why this game might suck! Once again you went and skimmed through the posts. Please READ more about ANIMATION(classic and current gen). Or better, take classes and practice!!
Like you said, it all good!
Animation being cut just makes the big picture look bad! Thanks for that!
Once again. ANIMATION(Body limb movement). I guess you've seen the videos and seen the how unrealistic it looks. AS usual you didn't understand what I was trying to say.
The old MK games looked realistic(please don't say because it had digitized characters as MK 4 also had similar animation) and what I am trying to get at is this... If a character did a standing side kick, it looked like how a person in real life would do it. If a character did a crouching kick, it would look like the real thing, ... so on and so forth. A normal front kick shouldn't look like the abs are made of steel and can't be bent. There is more...
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXMDC8P4Kog See, what I mean
Now, about skimming through messages. Since you have been ranting about MK Vs DC having better animation, it took you so many messages to tell me what you were trying to get at. In my case, while other people understood what I was trying get at. I kept writing BODY LIMB MOVEMENT. To talk about cooler/smoother animation would either mean graphics or frames(in this case frames).
I asked you stop skimming through posts is because you went an made ASS of U and ME by talking DC characters being the game and thats why this game might suck! Once again you went and skimmed through the posts. Please READ more about ANIMATION(classic and current gen). Or better, take classes and practice!!
Like you said, it all good!
Dude everyone knows what you're talking about and you don't even notice it...
I have no problem with the MKvsDCU animations so I must be very weird?
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allenella Wrote:
Twitch fighter, hahahaha. That's a funny term! Never thought of old MK games being TWITCH fighters especially SF!
Animation being cut just makes the big picture look bad! Thanks for that!
Once again. ANIMATION(Body limb movement). I guess you've seen the videos and seen the how unrealistic it looks. AS usual you didn't understand what I was trying to say.
The old MK games looked realistic(please don't say because it had digitized characters as MK 4 also had similar animation) and what I am trying to get at is this... If a character did a standing side kick, it looked like how a person in real life would do it. If a character did a crouching kick, it would look like the real thing, ... so on and so forth. A normal front kick shouldn't look like the abs are made of steel and can't be bent. There is more...
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXMDC8P4Kog See, what I mean
Now, about skimming through messages. Since you have been ranting about MK Vs DC having better animation, it took you so many messages to tell me what you were trying to get at. In my case, while other people understood what I was trying get at. I kept writing BODY LIMB MOVEMENT. To talk about cooler/smoother animation would either mean graphics or frames(in this case frames).
I asked you stop skimming through posts is because you went an made ASS of U and ME by talking DC characters being the game and thats why this game might suck! Once again you went and skimmed through the posts. Please READ more about ANIMATION(classic and current gen). Or better, take classes and practice!!
Like you said, it all good!
mastermalone Wrote:
Hey, never once in my post did I even mention the word "GRAPHICS." I knew exactly what you meant by your original post. That is the reason why I used the word "ANIMATION." The debate was never about graphics man, I have no Idea where you got that from by reading my response. The reason that I did not mention UMK3//Trillogy etc is because the animation on those games is only marginally better than MKII's. I saw no point.
The animation for movement and attacks in the older MK games does not even come close to the smoother looking animations that are being produced by the motion capture techniques of the new MK 3D engine. That is a fact, not an opinion. The reason why both Street Fighter 4's and MK vs DCU's attack animations look choppy compared to Tekken 5/6, VF5, and Soul Calibur 4's is because SF and MK are twitch fighters. SF and MK games rely more on quick reflexes to buffer and string moves together than the other fighters. The animations are cut short to ensure the players have better control response(Although MKD/MKA were both sluggish).
They are based on 2D gameplay which has always been that way. I'm sure you already knew that. Anyway.... I don't believe I was the one "skimming" through posts. Based on the resonse you gave, I believe you were the "skimmer", but it's all good man.
Peace
allenella Wrote: Once again, to clarify.... ANIMATION(body limb movement) NOT GRAPHICS!!
I see you didn't put down on MK 3/UMK3/ MKT. MK II and MK 4 for its time and the tech that was available was good. People played it in the arcade, liked it, and got for it for consoles. If the current technology was there in the 90's, possibilities of these games of looking better is certain. Therefore I do not disagree that MK VS DC is superior in terms of GRAPHICS to old MK games. But I wasn't comparing GRAPHICS in the first place!! These games were ANIMATED (body limb movement) better.
And I'm very glad that you agree that TEKKEN 5/6, VF 5 or SC has better ANIMATION(body limb movement) than MK vs DC.
BTW I didn't rant/whine/bitch about the game having DC characters and what not. JUST the ANIMATION (body limb movement). Don't ASSUME or make an ASS of U & ME. Please stop skimming through messages!! Not to be rude to you, please read up on the difference of ANIMATION and GRAPHICS!
And why buy (IF its a passable game), when you can rent!
I see you didn't put down on MK 3/UMK3/ MKT. MK II and MK 4 for its time and the tech that was available was good. People played it in the arcade, liked it, and got for it for consoles. If the current technology was there in the 90's, possibilities of these games of looking better is certain. Therefore I do not disagree that MK VS DC is superior in terms of GRAPHICS to old MK games. But I wasn't comparing GRAPHICS in the first place!! These games were ANIMATED (body limb movement) better.
And I'm very glad that you agree that TEKKEN 5/6, VF 5 or SC has better ANIMATION(body limb movement) than MK vs DC.
BTW I didn't rant/whine/bitch about the game having DC characters and what not. JUST the ANIMATION (body limb movement). Don't ASSUME or make an ASS of U & ME. Please stop skimming through messages!! Not to be rude to you, please read up on the difference of ANIMATION and GRAPHICS!
And why buy (IF its a passable game), when you can rent!
Hey, never once in my post did I even mention the word "GRAPHICS." I knew exactly what you meant by your original post. That is the reason why I used the word "ANIMATION." The debate was never about graphics man, I have no Idea where you got that from by reading my response. The reason that I did not mention UMK3//Trillogy etc is because the animation on those games is only marginally better than MKII's. I saw no point.
The animation for movement and attacks in the older MK games does not even come close to the smoother looking animations that are being produced by the motion capture techniques of the new MK 3D engine. That is a fact, not an opinion. The reason why both Street Fighter 4's and MK vs DCU's attack animations look choppy compared to Tekken 5/6, VF5, and Soul Calibur 4's is because SF and MK are twitch fighters. SF and MK games rely more on quick reflexes to buffer and string moves together than the other fighters. The animations are cut short to ensure the players have better control response(Although MKD/MKA were both sluggish).
They are based on 2D gameplay which has always been that way. I'm sure you already knew that. Anyway.... I don't believe I was the one "skimming" through posts. Based on the resonse you gave, I believe you were the "skimmer", but it's all good man.
Peace
Twitch fighter, hahahaha.
Animation being cut just makes the big picture look bad! Thanks for that!
Once again. ANIMATION(Body limb movement). I guess you've seen the videos and seen the how unrealistic it looks. AS usual you didn't understand what I was trying to say.
The old MK games looked realistic(please don't say because it had digitized characters as MK 4 also had similar animation) and what I am trying to get at is this... If a character did a standing side kick, it looked like how a person in real life would do it. If a character did a crouching kick, it would look like the real thing, ... so on and so forth. A normal front kick shouldn't look like the abs are made of steel and can't be bent. There is more...
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXMDC8P4Kog See, what I mean
Now, about skimming through messages. Since you have been ranting about MK Vs DC having better animation, it took you so many messages to tell me what you were trying to get at. In my case, while other people understood what I was trying get at. I kept writing BODY LIMB MOVEMENT. To talk about cooler/smoother animation would either mean graphics or frames(in this case frames).
I asked you stop skimming through posts is because you went an made ASS of U and ME by talking DC characters being the game and thats why this game might suck! Once again you went and skimmed through the posts. Please READ more about ANIMATION(classic and current gen). Or better, take classes and practice!!
Like you said, it all good!
The 2D games were just as stiff and robotic (even more so in my opinion) as MK Vs DCU is today.
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Im glad that Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe have the best animations of all MK games.
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Sub-ZeroRulez Wrote:
Im glad that Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe have the best animations of all MK games.
Im glad that Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe have the best animations of all MK games.
AMEN to that!
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allenella Wrote:
Once again. ANIMATION(Body limb movement). I guess you've seen the videos and seen the how unrealistic it looks. AS usual you didn't understand what I was trying to say.
The old MK games looked realistic(please don't say because it had digitized characters as MK 4 also had similar animation) and what I am trying to get at is this... If a character did a standing side kick, it looked like how a person in real life would do it. If a character did a crouching kick, it would look like the real thing, ... so on and so forth. A normal front kick shouldn't look like the abs are made of steel and can't be bent. There is more...
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXMDC8P4Kog See, what I mean
Now, about skimming through messages. Since you have been ranting about MK Vs DC having better animation, it took you so many messages to tell me what you were trying to get at. In my case, while other people understood what I was trying get at. I kept writing BODY LIMB MOVEMENT. To talk about cooler/smoother animation would either mean graphics or frames(in this case frames).
I asked you stop skimming through posts is because you went an made ASS of U and ME by talking DC characters being the game and thats why this game might suck! Once again you went and skimmed through the posts. Please READ more about ANIMATION(classic and current gen). Or better, take classes and practice!!
Like you said, it all good!
Once again. ANIMATION(Body limb movement). I guess you've seen the videos and seen the how unrealistic it looks. AS usual you didn't understand what I was trying to say.
The old MK games looked realistic(please don't say because it had digitized characters as MK 4 also had similar animation) and what I am trying to get at is this... If a character did a standing side kick, it looked like how a person in real life would do it. If a character did a crouching kick, it would look like the real thing, ... so on and so forth. A normal front kick shouldn't look like the abs are made of steel and can't be bent. There is more...
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXMDC8P4Kog See, what I mean
Now, about skimming through messages. Since you have been ranting about MK Vs DC having better animation, it took you so many messages to tell me what you were trying to get at. In my case, while other people understood what I was trying get at. I kept writing BODY LIMB MOVEMENT. To talk about cooler/smoother animation would either mean graphics or frames(in this case frames).
I asked you stop skimming through posts is because you went an made ASS of U and ME by talking DC characters being the game and thats why this game might suck! Once again you went and skimmed through the posts. Please READ more about ANIMATION(classic and current gen). Or better, take classes and practice!!
Like you said, it all good!
Honestly, that video you found was recorded on some body's 3 mega pixel 2003 model digital camera or a camera phone. If you want to show an example of the game, try finding one of decent quality for comparisons sake like I did for the MKII video. Even this old MKvsDCU video has better clarity for people to make a better judgement call.
All I have to say is this:
When someone says the word "Animation", the term refers to the actual motion of an animated object on a frame by frame basis. Not the graphics as you keep on trying to claim. I'm a 34 year old Professional Instructional Designer/Web Developer/Artist and Flash AS3 Programmer. I have a pretty good handle on reading and design. Based on what you just wrote as a clarification for me, the word you should have used is:
ANATOMY
If you were trying to state that the positioning of the character's attacks are not anatomically correct, then yeah, I agree.
Next time, instead of being condescending in your posts, try using the correct terminology. You will avoid looking foolish to those of us with expanded vocabularies.
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Honestly, that video you found was recorded on some body's 3 mega pixel 2003 model digital camera or a camera phone. If you want to show an example of the game, try finding one of decent quality for comparisons sake like I did for the MKII video. Even this old MKvsDCU video has better clarity for people to make a better judgement call.
All I have to say is this:
When someone says the word "Animation", the term refers to the actual motion of an animated object on a frame by frame basis. Not the graphics as you keep on trying to claim. I'm a 34 year old Professional Instructional Designer/Web Developer/Artist and Flash AS3 Programmer. I have a pretty good handle on reading and design. Based on what you just wrote as a clarification for me, the word you should have used is:
ANATOMY
If you were trying to state that the positioning of the character's attacks are not anatomically correct, then yeah, I agree.
Next time, instead of being condescending in your posts, try using the correct terminology. You will avoid looking foolish to those of us with expanded vocabularies.
Peace
All I have to say is this:
When someone says the word "Animation", the term refers to the actual motion of an animated object on a frame by frame basis. Not the graphics as you keep on trying to claim. I'm a 34 year old Professional Instructional Designer/Web Developer/Artist and Flash AS3 Programmer. I have a pretty good handle on reading and design. Based on what you just wrote as a clarification for me, the word you should have used is:
ANATOMY
If you were trying to state that the positioning of the character's attacks are not anatomically correct, then yeah, I agree.
Next time, instead of being condescending in your posts, try using the correct terminology. You will avoid looking foolish to those of us with expanded vocabularies.
Peace
Thank you so much for getting a video made by MIDWAY and showing the MK fans the flaws(pfft as if) I have been talking about. That video seems to show more of a polished game than the video link I've put up. What did you see in the video I posted? The quality at which the video is taken or the what the video had to show? That too accurately saying "3 mega pixel 2003 model digital camera or a camera phone"?
And as you are 34 years old and an Instructional Designer who makes, you are supposed to have an understanding better than an average 10 year old. For a person with a 'expanded' vocabulary you don't understand very well do you?
I would expect you to know understand the animation of ANATOMY means the animation of BODY LIMB MOVEMENT. Didn't I repeat that a few times? Don't you read, at all? Were you at work when typing your posts?? How can you call yourself a Professional Instructional Designer if this how you understand things. Isn't you job to make instructional/education materials easier(is that how you got into Web Developer/Artist and Flash AS3 Programmer)?
I guess you are good at talking alot, but not hearing or understanding. Since you had put you resume up I might as well give you an FYI about myself. I'm 28 years old, 7 years of work experience in 3D Studio Max and Maya Animation(still at it) plus dabbling in Cinema, Flash...
Having an expanded vocabulary doesn't help in Animation, does it? Sorry that you felt I was condescending, but what could I have done if I had to repeat myself to you a few times and you kept making an ASS of U & Me a couple of times. At least in your last post you got the terminology and understood(it took you a while). I am so happy for that.
Take care, my peace loving brother.
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