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03/11/2006 01:01 AM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
I wonder why this thread wasn’t given any Dragon points? It was not only an excellent analysis of the situation but there have also been some great posts here.

indeed, oh well who cares
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03/11/2006 04:02 AM (UTC)
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i see the faces at the top but they dont really resemble anything if you ask me.

I totally agree, how the hell does it LOOK LIKE MOTARO
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03/11/2006 04:45 AM (UTC)
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well it doesn't, but it does look beastly so the only thing i thought about was motaro...i have no idea where people are getting khameleon from though i don't see any other thing in the clouds outside of the one face.
and as far as her being in the game because it will have every character...i don't think the character counts unless they've have their own character select square in the past.
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03/11/2006 05:20 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
i don't think the character counts unless they've have their own character select square in the past.

Khameleon had one on MKT for N64
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03/11/2006 06:14 AM (UTC)
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The more I think about it, the more I do want Khameleon to appear. I think she should because they gave her a story (no matter how small it was) and she was a selectable fighter.
This thread actually inspired me to do a redesign of Khameleon. (Note to people who prefer her ninja look: This aint it!) I figured that her true form should be shown (like Reptiles was) But being female, I didn't want to make her look all scaly and rough looking so I gave her skin a smoother look instead. This is how I'd picture her:

What do ya think?
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Crownjo
03/11/2006 08:30 AM (UTC)
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man that looks fucking nice. you got the grey clothing theirtongue
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03/11/2006 09:21 AM (UTC)
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Now THAT is what Khameleon should look like. You've actually made me start wanting her in the game too. Or if not that, at least be able to create her to look like that. god bless you and your imagination TomTaz smile
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03/11/2006 09:42 AM (UTC)
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TomTaz Wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I do want Khameleon to appear. I think she should because they gave her a story (no matter how small it was) and she was a selectable fighter.
This thread actually inspired me to do a redesign of Khameleon. (Note to people who prefer her ninja look: This aint it!) I figured that her true form should be shown (like Reptiles was) But being female, I didn't want to make her look all scaly and rough looking so I gave her skin a smoother look instead. This is how I'd picture her:

What do ya think?

Oh boy...do you have fanarts for Chameleon and Meat to? Maybe than everyone would like to see them in MKA too.grin
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03/11/2006 12:39 PM (UTC)
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Anyway, in the end it comes down to comparison. Meat and Chameleon, no story, just joke characters. However Khameleon had a great story in my opinion, she tied in with my favorite character and gave him something to work for. Now Reptile must find Khameleon, in hopes of repopulating their race, or just doing whatever they can.
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03/11/2006 12:55 PM (UTC)
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TomTaz Wrote:

What do ya think?

Two words. LOVE IT!!
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03/11/2006 01:06 PM (UTC)
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Yeah! Ed can't deprive Reptile of his mate!
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03/11/2006 01:43 PM (UTC)
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Everyone keeps on saying that Khameleon has a great story. That's rubbish you know. She has potential, but that doesn't automatically means her storyline will rock the world, if she's in Armageddon.
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03/11/2006 01:48 PM (UTC)
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She had both. It was a suprise to find that thee was another FEMALE Saurian lingering around. Reptile's MK2 ending said he never knew his race. Khameleon gave him a chance to know the race he tried to protect. When you think about it. She played an important pat in MK4. Because if you saw his ending then it clearly states he knows Khan killed his race, meaning Khameleon contacted him. Though fact being, we know she contacted him, but what happened to her after that?
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03/11/2006 03:48 PM (UTC)
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TT, your artwork is AWESOME !
This is how I'd like Khameleon to look like... she's easily be in my top 5 ! wow
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03/11/2006 03:51 PM (UTC)
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TomTaz Wrote:

What do ya think?

That's how I think Khameleon should look like. She shouldn't look like the other females; Jade, Kitana, & Mileena. I think she should look like she really is, a chameleon.
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03/11/2006 04:16 PM (UTC)
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Vash_15 Wrote:
She had both. It was a suprise to find that thee was another FEMALE Saurian lingering around. Reptile's MK2 ending said he never knew his race. Khameleon gave him a chance to know the race he tried to protect. When you think about it. She played an important pat in MK4. Because if you saw his ending then it clearly states he knows Khan killed his race, meaning Khameleon contacted him. Though fact being, we know she contacted him, but what happened to her after that?

You cant take that ending seriously... Reptile didnt know about Kahn killing his whole race, why would Reptile still be working for Shao Kahn in MK Deadly Alliance then?
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03/11/2006 04:23 PM (UTC)
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TomTaz Wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I do want Khameleon to appear. I think she should because they gave her a story (no matter how small it was) and she was a selectable fighter.
This thread actually inspired me to do a redesign of Khameleon. (Note to people who prefer her ninja look: This aint it!) I figured that her true form should be shown (like Reptiles was) But being female, I didn't want to make her look all scaly and rough looking so I gave her skin a smoother look instead. This is how I'd picture her:

What do ya think?

Thats the Best Khameleon fan art pic ever. Excellent job!
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03/11/2006 06:03 PM (UTC)
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subzero961 Wrote:
Vash_15 Wrote:
She had both. It was a suprise to find that thee was another FEMALE Saurian lingering around. Reptile's MK2 ending said he never knew his race. Khameleon gave him a chance to know the race he tried to protect. When you think about it. She played an important pat in MK4. Because if you saw his ending then it clearly states he knows Khan killed his race, meaning Khameleon contacted him. Though fact being, we know she contacted him, but what happened to her after that?

You cant take that ending seriously... Reptile didnt know about Kahn killing his whole race, why would Reptile still be working for Shao Kahn in MK Deadly Alliance then?

It's simple. eptile needed a master. As he devolved more he forgot about Kahn.
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03/11/2006 06:20 PM (UTC)
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Vash_15 Wrote:
subzero961 Wrote:
Vash_15 Wrote:
She had both. It was a suprise to find that thee was another FEMALE Saurian lingering around. Reptile's MK2 ending said he never knew his race. Khameleon gave him a chance to know the race he tried to protect. When you think about it. She played an important pat in MK4. Because if you saw his ending then it clearly states he knows Khan killed his race, meaning Khameleon contacted him. Though fact being, we know she contacted him, but what happened to her after that?

You cant take that ending seriously... Reptile didnt know about Kahn killing his whole race, why would Reptile still be working for Shao Kahn in MK Deadly Alliance then?

It's simple. eptile needed a master. As he devolved more he forgot about Kahn.
if thats the case wouldn't he have also forgotten about khameleon and would probably just attack her since he's devolved and doesn't remember.
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03/11/2006 06:23 PM (UTC)
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Vash_15 Wrote:
Anyway, in the end it comes down to comparison. Meat and Chameleon, no story, just joke characters. However Khameleon had a great story in my opinion, she tied in with my favorite character and gave him something to work for. Now Reptile must find Khameleon, in hopes of repopulating their race, or just doing whatever they can.

Bah, who gives a damn about the story of a fighting game. Would I buy a game because of its story it would probably be an RPG. Meat could as well get an *interesting* story like being the first/original/whatever Kung Lao or something. MKs story is crap anyway (as for every other fighting game). Although as both Khameleon and Meat are appearing/being mentioned in the ongoing story of MK and Khameleon's supposedly hidden appearance in the MKA rooster picture (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=khameleon1uq.jpg), I believe both of them have good chances for making a comeback. However, I for one would rather see Meat in MKA than Khameleon.
For now Meat might be nothing else than just a skin but almost the same goes for Khameleon. Right now she is basically nothing else than what Reptile was in the first MK. A grey (instead of green) palette swap of the female ninjas (better than Chameleon though) with their moves and no moves of her own.
Meat's appearance on the other hand leaves so many more possibilities for turning into a great character. He would be original at least for MK (though I don't any other fighting game which has a zombiefighter in their crowd, but than again don't I know that many fighting games either wink). Not that Khameleon or Chameleon don't have the chance of turning into great characters but they would just be add-ons for a race which already exist in the game. Three Saurons were two of them would almost share the exact name! I guess they would become like the shokans, were the producers would give either Chameleon or Reptile some special appearance differences like Kintaro...strange I feel somehow that there is some kind of looping going on confused
They could *take* advantage of Khameleon biography/story by adding that she has/had the ability to camouflage/morph into the seven ninjas (meaning that Chameleon and Khameleon are actually the same character) which would set an dead end for Chameleon. Than we would just have Khameleon a female Reptile(!) just like what Frost was to Sub-Zero and what Shiva was to Goro.
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03/11/2006 06:41 PM (UTC)
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It's simple. eptile needed a master. As he devolved more he forgot about Kahn.
Thats just pure speculation, you cant assume memory loss comes with de evolving. Its just better to ignore Reptile's Mk4 ending.
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03/11/2006 06:54 PM (UTC)
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I really want Khameleon to be in MKA mainly because Reptile needs something fresh in his story and also he needs to have something good happen to him for once.
Also if Khameleon is in it, make sure she has ties to Nitara somehow as well to sort of twist the story a bit.
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03/12/2006 02:59 AM (UTC)
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deathgrave Wrote:
I really want Khameleon to be in MKA mainly because Reptile needs something fresh in his story and also he needs to have something good happen to him for once.
Also if Khameleon is in it, make sure she has ties to Nitara somehow as well to sort of twist the story a bit.

Deifnitely
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03/12/2006 04:25 AM (UTC)
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Vash_15 Wrote:
queve Wrote:
I wonder why this thread wasn’t given any Dragon points? It was not only an excellent analysis of the situation but there have also been some great posts here.

indeed, oh well who cares

Are you guys blind? Plenty of Dragon points were given in this thread! confused
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03/12/2006 10:10 AM (UTC)
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Yea get Khameleon in the game! They got Ermac, Rain and so on in so why not give Khameleon a more solid story and make her playabel!
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