True i told you so many times, who the fuck on here would spend the time to travel just to play one chump for a couple of bucks huh????NOBODY, except a guy like you....GEEEEE, i wonder why???If you actually have the time to do so, thats just sad LOL.Some of us have what you call *cough* A LIFE!!!


Just as i anticipated King lol, that drug comment went right over your head.

I don't play for money, i play for fun and competition True, thats why those people who make the xbox,PS 2 and Nintendo soon all have something called online play.Now lets try something called memorization this time.IT's not an excuse, it's called "I have a life and don't have time to waste by beating a chump that thinks he's knows everything online.

Look up online play if you can't figure it out, then tell me where in there does it say requires money and gambling LOL.

Hey True i got a great idea for you, get a job at the closest casino near you.It's rich, it's filled with high maintainance scrub monkies/stuck up idiots, 50 year old mid life men that feel sorry for themselves by gambling their life away, and have nothing better to do with their money, so i strongly recommend you become a dealer, hey easy money dude, you can rip off so many people.With your personality it shouldn't be hard at all.

Yeah tiger i pretend that Deception is perfect all the time, whatever you say man LOL.I only said that Deception was broken so many times now between this forum and others.I just play it because i love MK regardless and can still enjoy it.It's funny a few others have said the same thing, yet you target me, wonder why that is??And don't give me some BS because you're ignorant, dumb yada, yada, yada.You and i both know that it's because you don't like me.Just say it, i really don't give two S$#$@.

Oh yeah and BTW Tiger, it's MKFlegend,not WTF legend.Lay off the booze please.

Or unless you're suffering from dyslexia, then there's nothing i can do about that.Hey perhaps you and True are both on the same stuff lately, since both you and True can't seem to read my name correctly.

And King, yeah i am a legend of MK, thanks anyway.I'd rather be a legend than a King anyday of the week pal.

$1000 is a little more than a couple of bucks don't you think? He said he's willing to go to you meaning you have to do very little work. Just admit you aren't secure enough in your skill at the game to warrant a wager like that.



Ok, I don't like you. But the reason I don't like you has nothing to do with you liking Deception which is something I don't think you can understand. If you spend a little time to read what I wrote to fuzzdork you'll see that I was very friendly to him despite the fact that he said he likes the game. So what does that tell you? What it should tell you is that I don't like you because you won't respond to a single question without contradicting yourself, resorting to L0LZR0X0RZIB33TJ00, or dodging the question completely. And to top it off you pretend you actually did answer the question. Just look above at what you wrote to 1TruKing. You say you're so good at Deception. He said that he will travel to you and play for $1000. And all you can say to that is "a couple of bucks" and talk about having a life? What do you consider "having a life"? Traveling around the country playing for big cash or sitting at home playing hundreds of matches on Xbox Live?



See, this scares me because I seriously am starting to think you aren't seeing the satire of WTFlegend. Either you're not good at dealing with a little mockery or concepts like irony, sarcasm, and puns go right over your head.

I honestly don't know how old you are but I'll assume you're 22 like your profile says. Let me take a guess at what your were like in high school. You weren't a bad student but weren't a great one either. You probably hovered around the C+/B- range most of the time. You did your homework well enough but didn't pay much attention to learning from it, meaning you made the same mistakes on a test that you did on the homework leading up to it. Chances are the majority of your mistakes were related not to huge concepts but small oversights. Meaning on a math test you probably would do mostly everything right but end up with a B or C because you didn't pay close enough attention to the simple stuff. You'd get through a large algebra equation/expression/inequality but end up with the wrong answer because you made simple computational errors or flipped the < or > signs. In the verbal department you probably were the same type of student and in your papers you often ended up with teacher comments like "Use better transitions", "Check the flow of this argument", "Relate this back to your thesis", etc. The thing is, you saw these things on both the first and second drafts of your papers, meaning you often didn't correct things when they were brought up. I know you're going to tell me I'm dead wrong or not even respond but from what I can see from you in just this thread alone, I think that's a pretty good assumption on my part.

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I'd actually say someone has more of a life by travelling the country to compete in tournaments, you get to meet new people, socialize and see new places all at the same time. People who play online don't, just stay at home. You should travel sometime, meet the real competition and real people.



Legends are dead, Kings are alive and kicking and have the power and usually end up being legends themselves. You didn't read the part where he says his name comes from the Tekken character 'King' did you?


Anyway - I really hope that MK7 is a major improvement over MK:D, but I can't see it somehow. It's going to be another big let down. Mortal Kombat's biggest flaw is ultimately Midway. I don't even know if they are capable of creating a workable fighting engine, I'm not confident in them...

What country(ies) are you referring to when you say that kings are alive and kicking and have the power?

As for MK7, I too would like to see an improvement, but I think what they need to do is to let a company that knows their stuff when it comes to making good fighitng games like Namco and just deal with the gameplay department like I said before. However, there should be some Midway involvement in terms of specials and stuff...

To mkflegend: It's your attitude and your approach to things that is the core of why you aren't liked.

Metaphorically speaking.

Midway probably couldn't afford to hire someone from Namco. Better idea, Namco should just buy Midway. Mortal Kombat needs a complete overhaul. If Midway use the same engine a third time running, that's unforgivable. They wouldn't do that would they? I wouldn't put it past them.

The main thing for them to do is get rid of the dial combo system and implement a totally new engine that allows creation of custom combos and fluid movement. It doesn't have to be identical to the likes of Tekken, but it does need to catch up. It's current system is very dated.

Out of curiousity do Midway own a half-decent game at all?

You guys didn't read my post did you?
There is no need to speculate about what MK7will be...think about MK history.
Think about the neglect of the franchise.
You are going to get Ultimate MKD...with every character in MK history.
There will be a few bells and whistles but it will still suck or have fixes that break the game even more.

Soul Calibur 3 will be out soon...I suggest you guys get up on that.

peace.

I really want to get SC3, but I don't have a PS2. I've been wanting to get one for a while though (mostly because I wanted to get into the Tekken series, and maybe even the Virtua Fighter series), but I didn't have enough money. Once, I got really close to buying one (I was right at the check-out counter with a PS2 in a box) but I decided not to after the guy at the counter said that they overheat and sometimes catch on fire. I asked for the older model, but they didn't have it. In fact, I couldn't find it anywhere. I might end up buying a PS3 for those fighting games, although I heard that Virtua Fighter (which is apparently one of the best fighting game series' out there) is going to the Xbox 360...

My buddies have a PS2 though, so hopefully they'll get a copy of SC3 and I'll be able to play it at their house...

Trouble is, people are going to buy it anyway because it has 'Sektor' in it or 'Rain', or new fatalities, like all that matters! So gullable! All Midway has got to do is take MK:D, design new characters, fatalities, add in some crappy MK Solitaire mini game and then shove it onto the shelves, big advertising campaign promising all sorts of surprises, and all that money for miniscule effort. Wait not even miniscule, what's smaller than miniscule? What a cheap cop-out, I hope your wrong. Somebody should just put the series out of it's misery already, although I think Midway will do that all by themselves when they go out of business from bankruptcy. I will still hold out hope for a better MK future but I'm not going to be counting my chickens...

And your right, at least we can rely on Tecmo or Namco to deliver.

Look, I really care about Mk...I wouldn't be where I am today if it weren't for MK. I just hope that my criticism will eventually be taken as something positive. I hope that Ed will someday (soon I hope) retire and give the reigns to someone who cares. I think he has a couple of guys (Paulo Garcia and Eddie Ferrier) that could do a great job of designing MK...if not them then they would at least know someone who could.

Ed should retire, it's that simple...he's too out of touch with what a fighting game really is.

Licensing power is everything these days...it doesn't matter how good the game actually is if it has a name it will sell regardless.

Take the last game I worked on Wrestlemania 21, it got shredded by reviewers and admittedly it isn't the most polished game in the world.

But its a top 5 selling XBox game and it's also in the top ten of the video game charts.

Licensing is everything...I bet you the game I'm working on right now sells a buttload. The difference is that my game might actually be good if all goes well in production.

MK doesn't need to be a good game to sell and the folks at Midway are into making safe decisions...they won't change what is already working for them. The only way to make them notice is to make them starve, and there is no way to make that happen. MK has brought Midway back from the ashes on countless occasions and it will continue to do so for as long as there is a casual gamer that wants to be entertained.

They are going to milk MK for all its worth because they have to...The Midway lineup doesn't look to good as of right now, and it looks like they are putting all their eggs in one basket. That explains the one MK title every year till the end of time mentality....regardless of the quality.

I think MK SM is a buggy glitchy mess, did you guys notice how broken the demo was? Countless glitches and I made it crash more than once. I'm really surprised how bad the character models look, because I think Steve Beran is a great artist. The environments are ok which is to be expected from Tony Goskie...

But anyways...I'm ranting

I wish Midway and MK the best of luck...they helped get me started and I can't thank them enough for that. I'm glad I got my start in the biz in my hometown working on the game that meant so much to me growing up.
I've moved on though and I'm working for a bigger company on a great game with huge licensing power....designing combat mechanics no less. So I hope someday, I do get to make that fighting game I always wanted to make, but doubt it will ever be MK.

MKhas so much potential..it really could be the best fighter out there.

The problem is that Ed already thinks it is, and he doesn't want to change it out of sheer stubborness and ego.

Girlfriend was distracting me while I typed the post up and I guess I messed up on more than a few tags :P

Well when the majority of the posters are like wtflegend it's easy to see why we're so quick to toss the ignorant/moron statement.

We've never said that you can't enjoy the game we just said it's broken to hell and not playable at a casual, let alone, competitive level without drastic "rules" changes and even with that...



"what do you think of MK"

I always liked it as a distraction. I was usually excited at it's release since it always came out far after a sf game release and a good bit before a new sf release. I spent more time playing mk 2 than almost any fighter I've ever played and I played a good bit of ultimate. Having two of the best players to ever grace the game in my city one of whom is probably the best to ever play umk3 period didn't hurt either. I didn't much like mk 1 but it was a decent distraction. I was pretty disappointed when mk 4 came out. I was in LA for a major tekken tournament and having gotten to be one of the top in the nation at that wanted to do the same with mk 4 and continue the large tournament scene that existed for UMK3 but then I played the beta and it was LOL bad. I remember all the stupid glitches and the unblockable elbow drop that was as fast as dairous TSD that got nerfed in the final. The final wasn't much better maximum damage was a joke and I couldn't take it serious. 5 and 6 were pretty bad disapointments as well but I still enjoy the series. I enjoy the characters quite a bit and found it to be amusing. I especially like throws on umk3 though some lead to infinites. I don't care about the story because when you get down to it the story for mk is like the story for sf,tekken, doa etc... stupid. It's nowhere near the story of an average action game let alone a rpg so its background stuff and less than fluff for me.

"What did you hope to accomplish by posting in this thread?"

I'm not going to lie I came to this thread 1 because somebody sent me a pm telling me to and 2 because wtflegend was being excepctionally dumbassish(is that a word). I don't hope to accomplish anything I just enjoy making him look bad and figure if I do that then the rest of you can concentrate on a real discussion cuz you know somebody is owning his ass for you. Like ray said I doubt it will do much due to boon's ego.

"What's your stance on the whole gameplay issue?"

Well my stance is it's broken to the point of being unplayable.

I think I'd be happy if it was just playble and average not even good. I don't care if it's as deep as vf4:FT or tekken 5 or third strike.



I told you before lots of people travel to play for money. The fact is tons of money matches happen at tournaments and in fact quite often there are situations where money matches happen outside of tournaments when people, like you, run their mouth about how good they are and really can't back it up. You challenged me on any mk I said umk 3 or mk2 you ran away and cling to I play for fun. I play for fun too. I also enjoy playing for money. I enjoy playing the highest level I can which means playing in tournaments. Again who's the one who lacks the life. The guy who has no issues getting women and is able to travel around the country and play in tournaments just because or you who has bahsed women and would rather play online in his own home than go out and test his skills when there is no variable factor aka lag. You go on with your "life".



No I understand it perfectly I just turned it around on your ass to make you look stupid. Notice how you didn't respond to any of it right? Notice how you failed to point out any of my delusions or paranoia. I think it's you who had something go over his head.



The highest levels of competition are FACTUALLY based around money and fun so I guess you must not play for too much of either. You do realize that online play was around before ps2 and xbox right? I love how you want to play me so badly but when I suggest playing in person it's a waste of time. You'll only play online because you know in person you won't stand a chance. You're afraid to put up money because you know you'll lose. The amount of time involved in playing a match in person or online is the same yet if you play it online you have a life and in person you don't. You've got some wonderful concepts of what having a life is...



Tournaments don't qualify is gambling. Money matches could be considered that. However why should I bother to play you when I'm obviously a better player? You're supposedly a top player on deception which has a very small competitive player base I was a top player on a game that has a huge competitive player base. That alone lends to me being a superior player on fighting games in general so why should I waste my time playing some moronic scrub who thinks he's good just because he plays a game so mindless that anybody can master a character in a day? Only reason I'd play you is for money and well you did say you would own me at any mk game so it's not much of a gamble unless you doubt your own skill. Bottom line is you know and I know and everybody here knows that were we to play for money on umk3 or mk2 you'd get your ass handed to you and if we played on any of the games I listed you'd get your ass handed to you. Deception you might be able to beat me but it's so random that you may end up losing to me as well. You're a joke man.




This is yet another example of your moronic rambling posts. Seriously I love to read your attempts at insulting me it just makes me laugh. You're so far outclassed and you don't even know it. Every post you own yourself more and more. That paragraph was just stupid man come up with something worth my time.



I guess you haven't read your posts before. You should read some of the things tony put up in a previous post about you where you contradict yourself numerous times.



You say the drug comment went over my head and you post that. Seriously you don't even understand what it means let alone the nirvana statement and no I'm not saying you're like kurt cobain. seriously man what the fuck.



Dyslexia wouldn't have anything to do with him calling you wtf as opposed to mkf. Dude, buy a clue or something. See the stupid part is the whole not reading the name correctly despite me making it clear I did read it correctly I simply feel, as do others aparently, that WTFlegend is FAR more apropriate to you. I now know I'm not the only one who's read your posts or portions of your post and said to myself what the fuck?!



Well your stupidity is legendary so you're a legend in that area. Seriously I've explained where my name comes from and you still think I'm saying I'm a king that further supports the legendary stupidity now doesn't it. Seriously wtflegend just go away man you're outmatched. I mean you'd be outmatched by a wall with scribbles from a five year old but you're so far outmatched here it's not even funny.

I commend you for such a delicate and wonderfully written testament to how you feel about MK, and games in general. I fully agree with near every comment.

My regards.

What do I think of MK?
A huge, exponential waste of potential. There is simply so much this franchise could do, explore and implement as far as mechanics go. If you sit back, especially if you understand the shit that exists as of now, the "what could be" is just astonishing. You have an aura and style that could be developed beyond anything in any fighting game. So many liberties on creativity, mechanics and so forth are just waiting to be tapped...but it's not happening. It realy is quite sad.

I like to relate MK to that of a lost, teen crack whore - don't laugh, i've experienced this, actually. It's like a teen girl who's riding the bus. She's lost and "out of it." Kind of rambling and speaking in word salad. You look at her and you feel, deep down in your gut, such pitty. Not for what she "is," but for what she could be. So much un-tapped potential. So much beauty. She has all this support, people wanting her to change, to become what they know she can be; something great. They tell her how and why she's this way, along with how to fix it. She doesn't listen, though. In fact, she spites it. People that she hangs around with, spite it. The only things that "change" are those which she deams convenient.

Yeah, I know, it's uber abstract, lol. It's true, though.

What do I hope to accomplish by posting in this thread?
I simply want people to become educated with the real issues. People need to be objective and look at the whole picture; which is hard, because we're human. We suck, lol. If just one person can see that there are major mechanical and gameplay problems with in the franchise then I have served a purpose.

I don't give a shit if somebody understands frame data right away, how movement options create true tactical scenarios or how mechanical componets need to be designed with intent to cohesively work together, feeding off of one another. It would be nice if individuals understood this, simply for reference durring conversation and debate - or for the MK dev team to get their shit together. I simply want to aid in someone "seeing something differently." I want them to leave with more questions than when they came. I want them to become even more confused, but confused on a higher level.

It's about spreading knoweldge. It's about aquiring that knowedge and then demanding improvement. Not because you want to "bash" the game or prove who's the biggest fan. It's to increase knoweldge which aids in enjoyment and acheiving greater potential.

What's my stance on the whole gameplay issue?
There needs to be a serious re-direction of the mechanics and gameplay. I don't know if the dev team actually sits around durring meetings and decides to make a game that an individual with down syndrome and dyslexia could be "competitve" at. Or, if they really have absolutely no clue what a fighter consists of. I'm guessing it is a little of both, with a lot of the later. All I know is that there are serious failures in the current system. There have been failures in all the systems, really. But these last two have been abnormally dysfunctional.

People need to understand that depth does not equate to complexity, or vice versa. That "learn" and "patience" are not dirty words. And that true joy comes from aquiring a greater understanding and developing. If the content simply is not there to obtain understanding and develop as a player, then a person is being short changed. Again, a huge waste of potential.

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People will eventually understand. Even though humans initially suck, they adapt. We are creatures of knoweldge, that's how we survive. People will eventually learn. Even if MK never reaches a mechanically sound eptome, individuals will have. It's individuals who make the game and it's individuals who play the game. As long as knoweldge is continualy thrown out, and not sugar coated,, then it will be benificial as a whole.

Well it's no damn wonder people play Tekken more than DOA or MK. It's because their Sony fanboy retards. Tekken is so short., whereas MK is long and full of ideas and secrets, especially Deception. The conquest mode in Deception was kind of linear, but at least it's more fun earning secrets that way instead of fighting hundreds of people for coins. Tekken hasn't done anything innovative. They were boasting about breakable environments in Tekken 5. Hello?!?!? Ever fucking hear of DOA??? Of course you haven't because all you want to do is fight with animals vs. people. Why don't you go play Bloody Roar if you're into beastiality. The characters in Tekken are boring, they have no development, and they have no lives. Mortal Kombat has interesting characters and stories.

Please refrain from making such comments about fanboys. Console wars are not allowed on the site. tgrant

I don't know if you've noticed, but the discussion in this thread is gameplay, all of that you just said doesn't mean much at all.

The thing about tekken is you aren't required to play the extra mode to unlock secrets and you are with MK.


More people play tekken than DOA because tekken is a far deeper fighting game.

Nothing you listed has to do with gameplay and I know it's difficult for one of your mentality but thats what this thread is about. Interesting stories and characters that are far less interesting than a below average rpg combine with horrible gameplay doesn't sound appealing to me but then again I'm not a brain dead DOA fanboy who wouldn't know gameplay if it bit me in the ass either.

Tekken actually has done innovative things and MK honestly never has.

And that's exactly the reason you're on a MK site, as opposed to Tekken, right?

I think MK online is almost a better Tekken site then the actual Tekken site.

There are more reasons WHY Tekken is the best here, everyone at Zaibatsu already knows that Tekken is the best and there is never any question.

Here you have to preach to blinded MK fans that MK actually sucks and probably always has.

So Tekken always comes up because it is nearly flawless...VF4 is actually considered to be the best fighter, but Tekken dominates the US. AMericans can't get into VF4 because it such an intimidating game to master.

Tekken is like a simplified version of VF4 with a greater presentation value.

Mk blows...anything good that ever came out of MK is usually blind luck or abusive glitches.

The juggle for instance...MK invented the juggle, but do you think Ed intended for that to happen?

He clearly states in one of the MK documentaries that he was astounded by the fact that juggles actually existed. He didn't even know he did it.

case in point

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=6130

Yeah, but now juggles are apart of all fighting games....

A major part.

MK started it first....

Please king, now you're trying to turn my comment around and failed horribly, shit come up with an all new insult all together instead of the lame nirvana statement and running high on my comments.You're trying to run them against me.

Now, as for the money travel thing, *cough* i'm sorry but i when did i ever mention a Tournament????I specifically said why travel to face one person for a couple of bucks???Never said anything about a tourney.you have selective reading or you just didn't understand what i said.I never mentioned a tournament.

yeah, nice insults, arrogance doesn't even come close to describe you man.


Sub-Zero the 7th, i have no problem with you but i'm not the one with the bad attitude.True has been starting with me for the longest time now.

I think if you poll people here you will find that I've never once failed to turn your comments around against you. It's doesn't take a genius to do that to you in fact I know several 12 year olds who could turn your statements around while providing a more interest arguement at the same time.





Gotta love this. Another example of why people think you're stupid or can't read. Lets look at what I said and I'll bold the part that makes you look stupid.

I told you before lots of people travel to play for money. The fact is tons of money matches happen at tournaments and in fact quite often there are situations where money matches happen outside of tournaments when people, like you, run their mouth about how good they are and really can't back it up.

Aparently you're the one with the selective reading problem wtflegend indeed. I could point out the whole king comment you made despite me saying it came from the character named king on tekken but hey wouldn't want to beat a dead horse on this now would I.



Just because you're scared to face me and have admitted to being too poor to play for 1000$ doesn't mean I'm arrogant. You challenged me and you backed down not I. I was willing to travel.

You're missing my point, i can easily get several people to back me up that i'm the real deal in UMK3 or Deception for that matter.If you want i can ask them if they wish to talk to you via email?As i told you before, i would do it if i A.Had the time, B.Had the money, C.Thought it was actually worth my time,(which it is clearly not)Sorry, but i don't play people that aren't rational or have the intelligence to respect ones opinion.All i ever said was tht i'm very good in UMK3, can't remember saying that i would own you automatically even though i never faced you .Unless of coarse, it was in retaliation to one of you many degrading posts doing nothing but putting me down.


It's funny, you call me stupid, ignorant and such, yet you say something like i'm afraid to face you because i don't have the balls to back it up, yet i only played the game a couple of thousand times along with beating all the top kids around my area that thought that i sucked, hehe they learned the hard way.Now guess what BingKing, they now respect me as all do that have their doubts about me in MK.

Also, i'm not aware if you realize how stupid, ignorant and arrogant you sound when you say that i'm too poor to face you as one of the reasons why you think i'm afraid.LOL(no sterotype there).Yeah, you know what i clearly admit that i'm not rich like your rich ass or *cough* excuse me your wealthy ass(just to be politically correct)But the fact that you pretty much admitted to all here to read that you have that kind of money to spend on a video game thats not a tourney tells all.It tells you have nothing better to do with it, and it tells that you base everything in the world around money.

I work hard for the money i earn, i choose to spend it on more important things like a car, a girl and such.Not to travel to face a cocky know it all.But hey, if your mommy and daddy or whoever spoiled your little ass while you were growing up, hey good for you.Then you're no different than most of the scrubs i live around that are nothing more than spoiled rich, know it all AS@!##@!#!!!Wouldn't be surprised.Besides, say i had the money, i wouldn't trust your ass anyway, probably hire someone to shoot me if i winded up handing your ass to you.Since you like to like to brag about your money bags, why not ensure the money?Right??LOL, fuck that.

And how many times have i challenged you online in Deception??HHHHMMM???Several, yet you come up with lame excuses like, Deception is broken and such, i don't play online, BS man.Admit, you don't like the game because you're not good in it.At least the reasons i can't travel is because of family and financial reasons, but i would think for such a stuck up wealthy man like yourself, you can come up with a few hundred bucks to buy a xbox with live and one game.OHHH, i see you don't want anyone monitoring the matches i bet.Thats fine, it also says that you're afraid to be proven wrong.

I think that's the biggest problem right there. It seems as if Ed just rolls with the flow and hope that it all works out instead of anything intentionally implemented. It's sad to say that if MK7 is good, most likely it's because it wasn't intended to be.

If we look at the gameplay specifics that Ed mentioned as a step from MKDA to MKD, we have the following:

Stage Weapons - Which prove worthless as their speed was too slow compared to the 50/50s that characters can normally do, which is more the fault of the character animation than anything.

Deathtraps - Which is marred by the fact of the way they handled it. Some moves will DT and some moves wont, but they don't truly follow any sort of logic. Some character's jabs will throw you out, and some won't. The fact that they don't logically go out normally due to juggling is also a problem because it looks weird and odd.

Breakers - A promise of a way to break out of ground chains made a lot of people happy that they were finally going to discourage dial-a-combo. It didn't follow through of course, and you can use it in the air, it looks extremely weird, you can waste it right after you've been killed and waste it in the middle of throws (and still suffer the damage you would have suffered).

Throws - Throws were promised... but with incorrect animation and the frames being on it way too fast, it turned into an abusive 50/50 tool. Without throw escapes, it gets even worse. Above all, it's also glitchy and allows infinites.

Multi-tiered Environments - This has spawned a lot of problems, mainly glitches, of characters landing and falling to weird. Again, it suffers the same deathtrap problem as the hits don't logically make sense as to what would hit into the environment or not.

Movement - There were supposed to be more ways to move, but we didn't get anything really. No crouch-dashing still and no real sidesteps either, just the same sidewalking and all.

Even without all of these "new" promises, MKD has way too many problems with the rest of the other stuff.

Ok so a bunch of scrubs think you're good at UMK 3 when I've played a person who's beaten top players in the country and has never lost a competition in UMK3 despite me coming from an area that dominated on UMK3 everywhere but chicago and only a few in chicago could beat the 2nd and 3rd guys from portland. Hey have them tell me how good you are all you want it doesn't change the fact that I'm better.



Well you've got the time to play online so you've got the time to play in person guess thats a bullshit reason. B. you claimed that you would own me in any MK game because I'm not a real fan so obviously when I was willing to put up money on mk2 and umk 3 you backed down and suddenly it went from a sure win to well maybe I'll lose. C. is the most bullshit answer you don't have the money for the bet yet it's not worth your time to play for a grand yah whatever and you wonder why I call you stupid. You can't remember saying you'd own me hmmm... bet tony could find it via the search feature bet I could too. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen. In retaliation to what I said or not you said it you got called on it and you ran like a pussy.



Lets see you're not from one of the top areas and I am. I've played games that had much larger competition bases and been one of the best in the country and you haven't. I've beaten top players in a top area and you haven't. Yeah guess I am stupid to think I'd beat you on a game that requires some skill and is playable. I don't doubt you're good at deception I doubt you've got a clue on any game otherwise and you've done nothing but support my opinion. I'd own you across the board on every fighting game that I played you would have no shot.



You said yourself that you're too poor to face me in one of your PM's to me. So how do I sound stupid or ignorant when you fully admit that you can't afford it. You even said in this post you can't afford it. Hence you being too poor to do it. You also are now trying to say you never made the claim you could take me in ANY mk. Sorry I challenged you on the two mk's I play and you backed down. I also made the statement that I'm not rich but 1 it's easy money for me 2. I'm willing to back up my statements unlike some people. The reality is that it shows I don't base everything around money and in fact care very little about or for money since I'm willing to put it up on 1k$ bet though again it's an easy win for me.



I work hard for the money I earn as well. It's funny you say you spend it on a girl when you said in a pm you can't get a girl and all girls deserve to be played cuz all they care about is money. I don't have to pay for my women wtflegend sad that you do. I didn't say you had to travel I was willing to travel to play you but you backed down. I was never spoiled but obviously I hit a sore spot there. I guess you're a tad poor since you have such obvious hatred for people with money. It's cute how you try to put me down by saying I have money thats one of the best insults I've ever seen from you. Bottom line your ass said I wasn't a fan and you could smoke me in any MK. I challenged you to two mk's for money and your ass ran away. You know damn well I'd smoke you. You know damn well you have no shot at me on any game that I actually play thats why you incessantly challenge me to deception because it's common knowledge I don't play it. That would be like me incessantly challenging you to tekken 5 I know you don't play it so whats the point. You're really reaching with the hiring somebody to shoot you thing if I wanted something to happen to you I'd beat your ass myself but as you are admitting I'm the superior player now it doesn't matter. It makes sense to hire somebody to shoot you over a 1000$ bet when a chump hitman would charge 10k for the job and anybody decent would charge 6 figures plus. That really makes sense. Show one example where I've bragged about my "money".... idiot.



How many times have I said 1. I don't play deception 2. I wouldn't play online anyway since lag is a variable. 3. I have no reason to play you unless money is involved on any game. You wonder why I call you stupid when you keep talking about you traveling when I'm the one who was going to travel. You are stupid because you first say I'm ignorant saying you can't afford it and you admit you can't afford it. I've said before why should I buy an xbox get live buy a stick all to play somebody on a broken game using a broken feature for no money? It makes no sense.

If ignorance is bliss wtflegend has found nirvana.

If darwin's theory is correct he should be keeling over anytime now.

After seeing the recent coverage of Soul Calibur 3 on Gamespot and PS2 IGN, I think one of the saddest possibilties is that we may not ever see a good 3d MK other than in Soul Calibur 3's Create-A-Character mode where we can recreate many Mortal Kombat characters pretty much. Would be kinda cool to see the likes of Sub-Zero, Liu Kang, etc. in an amazing 3d fighter with deeper mechanics and strategic gameplay, even if they're just imitations of the real characters due to the lack of signature moves.