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Vasculio
09/03/2006 06:49 AM (UTC)
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What if Noob Saibot ended up with Two Fighting styles instead! What would be the other one? *Pondering*
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Sub-Zero_7th
09/03/2006 07:49 PM (UTC)
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Vasculio Wrote:
What if Noob Saibot ended up with Two Fighting styles instead! What would be the other one? *Pondering*


2 unarmed styles? That's kind of a tough one actually. I would say Fan Zi, but I'd like to see either Sektor or Smoke have that. Then again, they do have Fan Zi and Ba Shan Fan, which are the same martial art. Overall, hard to say.
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Vasculio
09/03/2006 08:07 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Vasculio Wrote:
What if Noob Saibot ended up with Two Fighting styles instead! What would be the other one? *Pondering*


2 unarmed styles? That's kind of a tough one actually. I would say Fan Zi, but I'd like to see either Sektor or Smoke have that. Then again, they do have Fan Zi and Ba Shan Fan, which are the same martial art. Overall, hard to say.


Jade's Fan Zi sound interesting... She was kinda fun to play. Its been a LONG time.

I'll try out Hotaru and Jade, To see if i can adapt to one those style.
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Sub-Zero_7th
09/03/2006 08:10 PM (UTC)
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Well, the reason why I say Fan Zi is because it's a Northern Kung Fu style that has acrobatic moves in it and is big on striking and joint-locking. I still feel it would go well with either Sektor or Smoke, but if it were to be Noob's other style, I hope it can be toned up.
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Vasculio
09/04/2006 07:19 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Well, the reason why I say Fan Zi is because it's a Northern Kung Fu style that has acrobatic moves in it and is big on striking and joint-locking. I still feel it would go well with either Sektor or Smoke, but if it were to be Noob's other style, I hope it can be toned up.


Okay, i finally play some more deception.

I 100% agree with "Fan Zi", as secondary fighting style. I'm actually getting the hang of it, and feels alright too.

But not the "Ba Shan Fan"! Its too actward and funky. Worst than Monkey!

Yes i said it!

Worst than Monkey!

Jade's other style "Kuo Shou" is under consideration.
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Sub-Zero_7th
09/04/2006 04:12 PM (UTC)
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Vasculio Wrote:
Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Well, the reason why I say Fan Zi is because it's a Northern Kung Fu style that has acrobatic moves in it and is big on striking and joint-locking. I still feel it would go well with either Sektor or Smoke, but if it were to be Noob's other style, I hope it can be toned up.


Okay, i finally play some more deception.

I 100% agree with "Fan Zi", as secondary fighting style. I'm actually getting the hang of it, and feels alright too.

But not the "Ba Shan Fan"! Its too actward and funky. Worst than Monkey!

Yes i said it!

Worst than Monkey!

Jade's other style "Kuo Shou" is under consideration.


Fan Zi and Ba Shan Fan are the same martial art. The MK team messed up both of them by making the movement slow. Gameplay-wise, Ba Shan Fan is better than Fan Zi, because it has better combo mix-ups and B + 1 is a good mid pop up.

Kuo Shou, which is supposed to be spelled Kuoshu, is Chinese for "national art". The MK team messed up even worse with Kuoshu as it is not a martial art, but one of the many broad terms for Chinese martial arts (sometimes even referring to Taiwanese martial arts). It shouldn't be in any game whatsoever.
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Vasculio
09/04/2006 04:43 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Vasculio Wrote:
Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Well, the reason why I say Fan Zi is because it's a Northern Kung Fu style that has acrobatic moves in it and is big on striking and joint-locking. I still feel it would go well with either Sektor or Smoke, but if it were to be Noob's other style, I hope it can be toned up.


Okay, i finally play some more deception.

I 100% agree with "Fan Zi", as secondary fighting style. I'm actually getting the hang of it, and feels alright too.

But not the "Ba Shan Fan"! Its too actward and funky. Worst than Monkey!

Yes i said it!

Worst than Monkey!

Jade's other style "Kuo Shou" is under consideration.


Fan Zi and Ba Shan Fan are the same martial art. The MK team messed up both of them by making the movement slow. Gameplay-wise, Ba Shan Fan is better than Fan Zi, because it has better combo mix-ups and B + 1 is a good mid pop up.

Kuo Shou, which is supposed to be spelled Kuoshu, is Chinese for "national art". The MK team messed up even worse with Kuoshu as it is not a martial art, but one of the many broad terms for Chinese martial arts (sometimes even referring to Taiwanese martial arts). It shouldn't be in any game whatsoever.


Kuo Shou an't bad all! Just lacking combos! I thought about this style and i think Kira could use it.

I don't care if there same martial arts! Ba Shan Fan is funky! Its more Hotaru than Noob Saibot anyway

All i'm saying is, I pick Fan Zi over Ba Shan Fan anyday. wink

Ps
The new gameplay video with Sareena sucks!

Sareena has Ba Shan Fan? and Kira has the Yuan Yang?

Click Here

I total disagree with these new choices.

After was watching this video
Click Here

I think that Zha Chuan would be a good fighting style for Noob Saibot.
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Sub-Zero_7th
09/05/2006 09:12 AM (UTC)
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It's not that Kuo Shou is bad or anything. It's just that not only is it spelled incorrectly, but much more importantly, it's not an actual martial arts style but just a relatively modern term amongst the many different terms to refer to Chinese martial arts in general as opposed to a specific Chinese martial art. So there are no particular attributes whatsoever. The 3 useful moves like Kuo Shou in MKD are B + 1, a mid elbow pop up move, D + 3, a low, partial-knockdown move, and B + 4, a double axe kick that hits high twice and plant slides the opponent.

I don't think Sareena's and Kira's unarmed style choices will be finalized. I mean, I'd personally rather see Sareena with Chuojiao and Kira with Kenpo.

For Zha Chuan, I think it's fine with Sindel. Zha Chuan, one of the 5 main Long Fist styles, is a very graceful, rhythmic, and elegant style, one that imo, is fitting for someone like Sindel, who has it in MKD and MKA.

Here is a short clip of some Zha Chuan stuff:

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09/05/2006 12:01 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
It's not that Kuo Shou is bad or anything. It's just that not only is it spelled incorrectly, but much more importantly, it's not an actual martial arts style but just a relatively modern term amongst the many different terms to refer to Chinese martial arts in general as opposed to a specific Chinese martial art. So there are no particular attributes whatsoever. The 3 useful moves like Kuo Shou in MKD are B + 1, a mid elbow pop up move, D + 3, a low, partial-knockdown move, and B + 4, a double axe kick that hits high twice and plant slides the opponent.

I don't think Sareena's and Kira's unarmed style choices will be finalized. I mean, I'd personally rather see Sareena with Chuojiao and Kira with Kenpo.

For Zha Chuan, I think it's fine with Sindel. Zha Chuan, one of the 5 main Long Fist styles, is a very graceful, rhythmic, and elegant style, one that imo, is fitting for someone like Sindel, who has it in MKD and MKA.

Here is a short clip of some Zha Chuan stuff:

Click Here


Um, Changchuan a.k.a. long fist has 8 subdiversions not 5.

Pao Chui (cannon fist)
Cha Yuan Yi
Tai Tzu Chuan (emperor Taicu fist, basis of all ong fist styles mostly)
Fan Zi Chuan (tumbling fist)
Huong Chuan (Red fist, 13.C a.c.)
Huong Chuan (flood fist)
Hua Chuan (huan mountain man style)
Hua Chuan (flower fist)

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09/05/2006 12:38 PM (UTC)
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Chrome, I said one of the 5 main Long Fist styles, which are Cha Chuan (Cha's Fist), Hua Chuan (Flower Fist), Pao Chui (Cannon Fist), Hong Chuan (Red Fist), and Tai Tzu Chuan (Grand Emperor Tai Tzu's Fist).
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09/05/2006 12:48 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Chrome, I said one of the 5 main Long Fist styles, which are Cha Chuan (Cha's Fist), Hua Chuan (Flower Fist), Pao Chui (Cannon Fist), Hong Chuan (Red Fist), and Tai Tzu Chuan (Grand Emperor Tai Tzu's Fist).


Now thats strikes me just as weird.

Btw, notice how all Hong and Hua styles are homogramms and homopho-nes..(red/flood fist) (hua mountain/flower fist). I am seriously doubting that
wikipedia had it correctly for once, as persay, according to this tanglang chuan could also be considered long fist, as long fist is a dirct shaolin derivate if not shaolin by itself.

same with the north/south stuff. tanglang mantis is very much =/= with 7 star mantis and co. Same with She Quan with southern snakes (btw, Snake style as She quan is not snake in translations. It is She people
fist....if northern, than this must refer to the evenk and naga people who
are considering themselves snake people. But again, the naga people live almost near India and Tibet...) weird.
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09/05/2006 01:50 PM (UTC)
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Vazculio, love what u did with this thread. Very productive.

My imput on the ninjitusue thing, i don't think he should have that when Noob use to quote when alive "i'm not a ninja. I'm lin kuei. Scorpion was a ninja."
So that style the clan would find insulting. But i wouldn't mind seeing how the lin kuei were out before the ninja's, the lin kuei having their own style thats still different. More powerful mightbe nice, ortherwise swifter.

I don't know on the second style. Either the one sub-zero_7th posted, or a neitherealm like style. Theres five other realms, i'm sure making up some styles won't hurt.

The weopon though, i would like to see noob saibot use his powers to make one from shadows, kinda like what sub-zero did with the kori blade. I do think noob-saibot should have a weopon thats shot range, so he can get in easily, and have a quick defence.

And yes, noob saibot should have his full name. They should not disrepect tobias work or demean Noob saibot by calling him (shudders)...Noobfurious
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Vasculio
09/05/2006 06:50 PM (UTC)
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Since i'm getting tired of argueing about fighting styles. I want Noob Saibot to have a secondary fighting style that *I* like.

Whats the point of Ed Boon's words when he said that some characters will have 2 hand to hand styles

This way, you Monkey lover can have yours and i can have something more to my liking.

Yes it must have more combos!

But hell man!

I'm sick of branching combos! I HATE the L1 buttom with a passion.

I'm hoping for good, regular lengthy combos
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09/05/2006 07:06 PM (UTC)
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Vasculio Wrote:
Since i'm getting tired of argueing about fighting styles. I want Noob Saibot to have a secondary fighting style that *I* like.

Whats the point of Ed Boon's words when he said that some characters will have 2 hand to hand styles

This way, you Monkey lover can have yours and i can have something more to my liking.

Yes it must have more combos!

But hell man!

I'm sick of branching combos! I HATE the L1 buttom with a passion.

I'm hoping for good, regular lengthy combos


Yeah i hate the brachings too. Hope they figure out a way to mix styles with out pressing L1 to contiune it.
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Vasculio
09/07/2006 12:11 AM (UTC)
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Yay Smoke has two fighting styles "His one from Deception and Judo"

Which means... Noob Saibot is probly going to get 2 fighting styles also!

Now if they'll fix his name to Noob Saibot and add that secondary fighting style. I'll be happy

Ps
With hell with the Scythe! He doesn't need it anyway.
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Drifting_Ravage
09/07/2006 12:32 AM (UTC)
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In the new vid, he's still Noob. But it's probably still subject to change.
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Vasculio
09/07/2006 02:17 AM (UTC)
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I hope that video is still in building stage.

Or the evalution copy in general
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I made this! Yay!

Guess who's back!

09/26/2006 12:33 AM (UTC)
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"Hoping that Ed Boon and the rest of the mk team gets this!

The link to Noob's Concept
http://www.mortalkombataustralia.com/MK%20Australia%20The%20Elder%20Gods/MK%20Deception%20Production%20Art/TheElderGodsMKDeceptionProductionArt01.php

COSTUMES

1. Default: MKDeception Noob Saibot "MKD Alturnate"
2. Alturnate: MKDeception "MKD default"
3. Alturnate 2: MKDeception Noob Concept "Far right one and all black of course"



FIGHTING STYLES - Choose any one of these fighting styles except for Monkey. Yes.. theres a few missing because like Monkey they didn't match his style.

Ninjitsu and Dragon are my picks

1. Ninjitsu
2. Dragon
3. Shinto Ryu
4. Shotokan
5. Shorin Ryu
6. Ba Gua
7. Tang Soo Do
8. Tae Kwon Do
9. Pao Chui
10. Jun fan
11. Ying Yeung
12. Mian Chuan
13. Silat
14. Hung Gar
15. Zha Ghuan
16. Jujutsu
17. Goju Ryu - Less favorite of choice
18. Hua Chuan
19. Choy Lee Fut
20. Val Tudo
21. Zi Ran Men
22. Yue Chuan
23. Wing Chun
24. Kenpo

WEAPON STYLE

SWORDS







DAGGERS









SCYTHES

Still looking for Scythes

SICKLES











STORY

Personally, i'd like his story to tie into Ashrah Ending if possible.

In a since Ashrah defeat Noob Saibot, but True Evil never really dies... so Noob Saibot retreats... while Smoke is shock trying to recollect himself.

Maybe the Demon Sword i chose for him could come into play. A sword that enhance his abilties and will use this new weapon to continue his quest to amass the army that he desires.

I'm going to break here... but hopefully if new ideas spark i'll be update this topic.

This time, Noob Saibot is a solo fighter and also his name should be Noob Saibot, not Noob!


SPECIAL MOVES

1. Black Fire Ball and Air Black Fire Ball that damages opponites?

2. Black Skull Fire Ball and Air Black Skull Fire Ball that damages opponites?

3. UMK3/Trilogy: Disabler, Shadow Throw and Teleport?

Option 2 sounds cool to me!

But what do you guys think?"




Please god let Vasculio's hopes be true.
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Vasculio
09/26/2006 12:39 AM (UTC)
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Well... there only two things i want now, or hope already happen

1. Noob Saibot's full name in the lifebar
2. Noob Saibot gets a second hand to hand style
Zha Chuan, Fan Zi, Jeet Kune Do or Something new with basic punches and kicks, that are very quick.
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Sword_Saint
09/26/2006 12:51 AM (UTC)
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How about Crab?
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Vasculio
09/26/2006 01:19 AM (UTC)
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Oh hell no! Its bad enough he has monkey! and you wanna give him another lame ass fighting style. No thanks!
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Drifting_Ravage
10/05/2006 02:13 AM (UTC)
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What would you think of Noob Saibot having the Devastator?

The end result being:

Reiko- Crude Hammer
Fujin- Wind Staff
Noob Saibot- Devastator

Think this is a good idea?
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10/05/2006 02:28 AM (UTC)
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Drifting_Ravage Wrote:
What would you think of Noob Saibot having the Devastator?

The end result being:

Reiko- Crude Hammer
Fujin- Wind Staff
Noob Saibot- Devastator

Think this is a good idea?




maybe ,but if noob had a weapon of my chice it would probably be a sword like the goblins from moria had in LOTR you know like a rusty goblin schimtar or jus a plain schimtar,anyone agree?
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Sub-Zero_7th
10/05/2006 02:29 AM (UTC)
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Drifting_Ravage Wrote:
What would you think of Noob Saibot having the Devastator?

The end result being:

Reiko- Crude Hammer
Fujin- Wind Staff
Noob Saibot- Devastator

Think this is a good idea?


Eh, I'm not fond of that idea. I see Noob as a speedy fighter and for him to wield a big, heavy sword like that would be bad.

I think if he doesn't get a weapon such as the Kusarigama, he should have another unarmed style. I'm just not sure what out of the ones that are in the game. Outside of the games, I would've suggested something like one of the Southern Praying Mantis styles like Jook Lum.
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Vasculio
10/05/2006 02:31 AM (UTC)
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If he ends up with a weapon, then why not.

But i'm sticking with the idea of two hand to hand styles.
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