Bowling rocks man ^^ I used to be in a league myself, ever play wii sports bowling man? Game is TONS of fun IMO especially with 4 players.

Yeah you and Atari both have annoying and very good Sindels IMO.

Kobra, yeah I agree he's annoying too but I don't believe he's nearly as good as MKD Kobra. MKD Kobra was just a freaking pain in the ass lol

dan i think he uses a 331 combo or something, not the ac we all no. kinda like jumping in with a late 11 to land and than dial.

^ i sent you a friend request red .

i tryed challenging you but you didnt accept or it kept saying match canceled .

btw were supossed to have a 4 star connection .

yea im in a summer league. i bowl every tuesday. my average is now up to 142. i been going up each bowling season fall league starts in sept. so basically i bowl like every tuesday for 40 weeks a year. i dont own a wii and prolly will never own one.

my next gen system of choice will be PS3. Tekken dr and MK2 online HOTT!!








thanks fo rth einfo. i just found a way to do 33 w/ sindel now. i recall him doing her 1,1,2 combo on me. i can do 33 off of that combo. YAY i can do 35% combos w/ sindel ONLINE. crazy O_o

Great games to both Bone and Dan from PS2.

You guys got skill. I look forward to getting more games in with you both and I learn alot while playing.

Bone very good Smoke by the way. I didnt expect that!!

**After his throw I usually have time to do 1 or 2 missed throws and then attack to help my 50/50 mix up. But the 2nd throw actually worked!!! Crazy connection but still very good games***

Dan very good Sindel as always and Daegon. Hes tough in your hands as well.

So now I figured out Daegon isnt the worst....its Sindel. lol. She sucks in this game. J/K

I dont know. I guess it really depends on the player. I need to work on some of the games mechanics. I make too many mistakes.
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Sindel has a 40% + combo mid screen.


(mid screen) works on and offline (most connections).
weapon U+1, Air 1,1,2.... CS... 3,3,2+CS (Air Cancel) as soon as she lands CS,CS to close the gap and 1,1,4 in weapon.

I did it once vs you I think. Main thing is using her air cancel in her first stance and using CS CS to walk up and attack.
Offline you can do some mean juggles using this technique like CS, CS..1,1..CS..1,1,CS ect. but depends on connection when online and rarely works for me.

In the corner of course you can just jump up and start an Air Combo or do another pop up. Rinse and repeat. 3,3,2CS can be used as an infinite in the corner.

Sonya has the same one. Few other characters do it, but Sindel is the only one that can dail a combo afterwards from mid screen. Well, maybe someone else if you use parry cancel.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3,3,2,CS is done in her first stance. Get used to the timing after the 2 then CS. And it has to be done after 2 or 3 hits in the Air. So I use 1,1,2 or 3,3,2 in weapon first....then CS....3,3,2,CS Air cancel. It can be done by other characters also. Just wanted to make that clear to anyone who doesnt know.

Good Shit Atari!

I'm a huge fan of Sindel. So all your tips are now marked down for training tonight.

Trax

aww man im only known for having the best smoke on ps2 man .

you have a nice kai . that kai vs your sindel was probably my favorite . good shit .

1) or you can do u1 cs 11cs4 cs 11cs4 for 50% online and offline

2) pretty sure its 33cs2, not 332cs

3) NEVER USE IT MIDSCREEN, CORNER ONLY

4) 33cs2 reduces the damage by 2 acs, does very shitty damage

5) better of using u1 jump 112 33, cs, b1, jump, 33,33, 33, combo.

6) doing just 11cs and not 11cs4 will not guarentee a second 11cs/11cs4 most of the time, always do 11cs4, last hit moves her closer and recovers faster.

7) using the cs glide ( cs cs ) to move in is also way too hard and not worth risking for shitty damage, BARELY works offline, and barely works period.

8) no idea what u said for the corner, but i guess u mean pop up ac ac pop up ac ac. with 33cs2, the damage is already reduced by 4 ac's after the second one, so there is no point in doing a second pop up after it. if you were to use a second pop up: 112cs33cs2, b1, jump, 33, 33, 33, combo, or 112cs33cs2 b1, jump, cs, 11233, combo........... for just 1 acs in the corner: 112cs33cs2 cs 1121134 ( not really a ac, but oh well )

9) again, its the most useless air cancel in the game, other characters who have it, also have 11233 ( online only ) and leads to better combos. for example cyrax's 58% off b1: b1, jump, 33, 33, 33, land, 11, jump, cs, 11233, cs, 11, 11cs.

10) i doubt dan knows how to parry cancel with anyone, but if he has any shot of landing 11cs4 after 112cs33cs2, hes gonna have to parry cancel, cant rely on the cs glide unless you have a severe connection advantage over someone and are moving at the speed of sound.

11) parry cancel infinite: 11cs4 cs pc 11cs4 cs pc 11cs4 cs pc etc etc etc, found by me a while back. enjoy

http://www.yousendit.com/download/OGhjNHAvYWJOQncwTVE9PQ

12) her best air cancel is 112114cs but it doesnt work online. to attain the same type of damage use 333333

13) anytime you do u1, always go for 11cs4, cs pc, 11cs4. you dont have to parry cancel for the second one, but it guarentees it if u do. been a while since ive been online, but possibly even 11233 after u1. ( note: she can only do one 33 after 112 in second stance, but its good enough with the previous 3 hits, also, for some reason she cannot jump back up after 11233, so no, 11233 11233 pop up etc. ) follow it up with either a combo or a second popup, then 333333 or combo

14) shes got way more then 40 offline midscreen: u1 ac ac b1 ac combo. ( add one ac for wall combos )

15) for sonya sektor jade etc always use 11233, and not 112cs33cs2

16) find a friend to practice with online and learn the things i did. dont forget about her glitch throw, they made sindels throw alot better because of this

17) on the ground, 11cs4, walk up throw = over 30

18) u1 1121134 = 35%

19) u1 cs 11cs4 cs 11cs4 = 50% ALWAYS and ONLY USE THIS after u1

20) off a parry, use b1 in first, i believe its the only pop up she can 33 off of

21) dont ever go for the big combos unless you parry them or happen to hit u1, stick with 1121134 because online is stupid like that. NEVER GO FOR 112cs33cs2. but be my guest and find out for yourself. and of course, 11cs4 cs 11cs4 for 50%

22) stick with 4, 44 and 441 on the ground if 44 connects. follow 441 with cs 11cs4 cs 11cs4, or 1121134 or 11233 cs combo. 4 is a great because its a tracking mid thats safe.

23) dan is great with u3, make use of that somehow, if u catch someone in the air with it, they go higher up off the screen, so jump up and do 1121134, i dont ever recommend doing her air cancels online, just 11cs4 cs 11cs4, all day. or just 1121134, land, then mixup.




good luck and dan the offer is still on the table if u got a mic, ill teach u how to 33 with everyone






later

Check ~ Thanks for all the info.

Sadly i can only 33 w/ certain types of Pop ups. i found one w/ atleat every character. i cant even 33 off line w/ the other pop ups. so its me not the lag.
just like i couldnt do some combos in MKD.

if it isnt easy i cant do it

i would of found sindels sooner had i not been Dumb.

example of the type of pop ups i can 33 off of.

Kabal B+2 in weapon
Mavado ~ the pop ups w/ 2 and 4 in 1st stance. and B+2 in 2nd.
Sindel ~ 1,1,2 in 1st
Mileena ~ 4,1
Kung ~ F+1 in 1st
Kitana ~ Fan wave
Frost ~ 1,3 and the pop up in weapon.
Sonya ~ 2 in 1st and F+1 in weapon
Scorpion ~ F+1 in weapon.
Reptile ~ b+2 IN 1ST UP+4 in 1st. and prolly his pop up in weapon, i never tried it though.


i can go on and on.

i cant do 33 on the slower recovering Pop ups. like Up+1 in weapon w/ sindel.
Up+4 w/ kitana in 1st... etc



im fine w/ the pop ups 33's i can do.

Check I disagree with a lot of you statements - I assume 1,1,CS,4 is her ground dail you are talking about. If so it is badly flawed. Even offline in practice mode its difficult to maintain a ground juggle with Sindel. MKD is another story. Sometihing with her hit box in MKA.

UNLESS you are saying 1,1,CS,4 as an air cancel? I wasnt aware she can do it.
And I cant do 1,1,3,CS,4,4,4 with her.

Only usefull A/C outside of 3,3 is the combo I mentioned and frequently do.


3,3,2,CS (YES it is 3,3,2,CS in that order easy as cake) is much easier to pull off and doesnt require special timing to start the attack. However if this isnt landing ONLINE and your opponent keeps dropping before the hits register, then you're....fucked...and probably should quit mid match unless you dont mind playing 10 frames behind. lol.


And yes CS,CS 4,4,1 after the 3,3,2,CS A/C is VERY EASY to pull off and if you follow up with just 4,4 in weapon it can lead more hits.

Bottom line is the mid screen combo I mentioned is very easy to pull off and is 40+ % damage VS. her ground juggles and/or 3,3 combos. In my opinion.

Let Dan decide for himself what works best for him.



*** If Red wants to cap anything I talk about, Im up for it. ***

Oh and Dan - you can 3,3 off of her 1,1,2 ground dail but that combo reduces the damage and is unsafe.

Risk vs. Reward.

One more A/C I find usless but maube you can use it.

first stance 3,1. I do it with a couple of characters for a 50/50 but with her air combo move set she can dail afterwards if you time it right...so

pop up..1,1,2..CS..LATE 3,1 and your opponent will keep spinning in the air as you drop down and can attack.

The LATE 3,1 after a pop up doesnt require any prior hits. Doesnt do much outside of looking pretty. Credit this to You Will Perish. He was doing things like this when the game first came out. I still cant do some of his other A/C off of 2 the way he did them.

I said before most A/C's are easy and most of them happen when you attack late and do an unlisted Air Combo for that character. Not really usefull all the time but looks good.

to many button combos

^
lol

Check...Man i would love some of this info man. Like dan could do all sorts of jump kick combos on me and 33 combos that are like 10 minutes long...

I want to do that stuff to...Or at least give my self the option. I want to 33 with anybody!

Any tips? Should i pm you or try to talk on MSN or IM? If your willing?

Kai is not the worst, Shujinko is, by far.

He takes more damage! That's insane,he get's beaten so fast. Also, he has no safe mids, at all. The only thing going for him is his throw. And even when you get it, he has some of the worst juggle options in the game.

Now Kai has b+2 in Moi Fah and the best thing. d,f+1.

Those two moves alone make him better than Jinko. And also, he gets normal damage.


And Frost d+4 in weapon is a mid.

imo -

1. Shujinko
2. Kai
3. Frost
4. Shang
5. Sindel

u2 for jinko is pretty safe for the most part...

If you play a smart 50 50 game he is GOOD. still low tier but...

u2 spear, 112, ft, 112, 1134 is like ~50% damage or something...easy to pull off too.

And Frost d+4 in weapon is a mid.

Yeah but it's unsafe as fuck.

Jinko is very hard to work with, but not the worst.

Use F+4 to start your combos. Side steps and hits mid.

F+4,1,2.....is safe and your opponent has to watch out for B+2 which is a pop up.

His freeze is safe at a distance and you should whore it vs certian characters.

That silly sparkling ballerina kick hits mid and leads to a easy free throw. Also a very good anti air move for the most part and can lead to a juggle.

Scratch his teleslam for now and work it into you game later.


After a pop up/throw, I use an A/C that leads into another 50/50 and is difficult for most to deal with.

actually im almost 100% for sure that jinkos only mid is up+2 in weapon.

ill do a High mid/Mid and unparrible low poke profile on him tonight. i havent worked on those in awhile.

go here to see the ones i worked on so far. i have done 18 characters so far.

i havent been bored in awhile which is why i havent done a profile in almost 2 months.

Cyrax is 5th, hell Sindel is toned down but damn..not nearly that bad lol

Good thing you left .5% or so there. Mantis u+3 and any combo that uses this move (1,1,u+3, etc.) hits mid. Not that it's good though. Dan Tien Dao 1, d+1, and 2 are also mids.

i am hearing alot of talk about Frost mids..

Imo....her best mid is her ice puddle...if someone is going to block low....they will be sliding all over the place. If they jump backwards....the ground freeze...if the jump over you...22 is not bad.

Frost has some real good options...i wouldnt think to say that she is one of the worst characters...Shujinko, Cyrax, Shang, Kai among others are FAR worse than Frost imo.

Ice puddle a mid? Could've swore it was an unblockable low.

Either way she's a joke character. If I'm full screen away from her, what's the first thing she'll try and do. Either her ground freeze or her teleport uppercut. So all you have to do is block low, wait until she decides to do her teleport, then punish it. Preferably with a grab. She becomes predictable easily.

Up close she's still a joke. Although people do get confused when she does her b+1 cuz it looks like it hit high when it's a low hit. But any good player knows it's a low. Once again block low until she does her ice puddle then jump over her. If you jump away from her chances are the puddle will still get you. Once you're over her punish her. The animation of a jump is faster than the animation of her ice puddle. That's how she gets fucked over most of the time.

Which is why IMO she's number two on the list of shit characters. She only has one mid which is unsafe as fuck. Her useful pop-ups are unsafe on block. So she's forced to rely heavily on her specials which eventually makes her easy to read.

*NAKM*

Unblockable low is a semi redundant term. It's just an unblockable move.