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Sub-ZeroMasta
10/28/2004 06:07 PM (UTC)
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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE JOKING

The square changed from the Dragon to Smoke's pic at least once almost every single time on the select screen at the arcade and in home versions. You knew he was there the first time you seen it flip.

Nice try tho. Next time talk about something you know.

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You HAVE GOT to be joking.
Smoke wasn't on the select screen in MK3, THE DRAGON LOGO was!!! You had no idea it was Smoke until you unlocked it. It's not the same as in MKDA or Deception, you know that there is character there, and you know exactly who's there unless it's a new character or you've been away from planet Earth for the last five hundred years.

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10/28/2004 06:16 PM (UTC)
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It did?!
Oh... that changes everything. I just made a fool of myself hehe
Sorry didn't remember I had for the Genesis/Mega Drive and I'm not really sure it spinned once in a while but if you say it did, then it must be true. (Can't test it any more, my MK3 cartridge was stolen). Sorry for making a fool out of myself but I really didn't remember it did.

Oh well, I'm off to find some hole to put myself into now.

Sub-ZeroMasta Wrote:
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE JOKING

The square changed from the Dragon to Smoke's pic at least once almost every single time on the select screen at the arcade and in home versions. You knew he was there the first time you seen it flip.

Nice try tho. Next time talk about something you know.

DamRho Wrote:
You HAVE GOT to be joking.
Smoke wasn't on the select screen in MK3, THE DRAGON LOGO was!!! You had no idea it was Smoke until you unlocked it. It's not the same as in MKDA or Deception, you know that there is character there, and you know exactly who's there unless it's a new character or you've been away from planet Earth for the last five hundred years.

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Sub-ZeroMasta
10/28/2004 06:19 PM (UTC)
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LOL

It's cool man. Much respect for being a man about it.
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FDMK
10/28/2004 08:19 PM (UTC)
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Unlockable Character = any character who is somewhat visible to the player, but special requirements must be met or code entered, and usually no special way of selecting is needed.

- Smoke in MK3
- Reptile, Cyrax, Jax, etc. in MKDA
- Shujinko, Liu Kang, Hotaru, Havik, etc. in MKD


Hidden/Secret Character = any playable character not visible to the player, and special requirments and/or special way of selecting them may be required.

- Khameleon in MK Trilogy
- Meat, Goro, Noob, Sektor in MK4/MK Gold
- Blaze and Mokap in MKDA
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Nefarius_Flamen
10/28/2004 08:39 PM (UTC)
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I posted this in another thread but i feel like everyone should see it. I e-mail Yanden from MKAus about the news on SUs and here is what he had to say.

Hi there,

Note: They asked : DarqueBishop: I checked with my contacts at Midway this morning, and the official answer is that the info there is bogus. There are no selectable characters outside of the main 24 on the grid.

Did I say anything about them been available as additional images on the select screen? I have spoken to Scott-Howell who is ok with me and we both agree that one of us is been screwed. I do not believe its me however due to recent dealings I have with MK not to mention I am the CEO of Dark Velocity Entertainment, a game making company that they would not really lie to. If they have lied to me however they will have serious explaining to do. Only time will tell I guess.

Thanks for writing and enjoy your stay at MKAus. Hope this was informative for you.



Thats his exact words e-mailed to me. So either MKO was lied to or Yanden was lied to, but yanden sounds pretty confident with his answer...............grin

Also i played as the hacked Monster over at my friends house and he was VERY much complete. He could have all the death traps done to him and he could pick up weapons. I just think if he could do all that why is he not unlockable, I mean he doesnt even have a weapon on the one stage you fight him so why would he be animated to use one?
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JackWinkleBean
10/28/2004 09:58 PM (UTC)
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Well... not all of us can be happy. If Midway were to make MK the way everyone wants it to be, there might have to be several versions, each for different peoples' tastes. And to the reply of a post a while back to that guy:

If you bought MKD, jsut because there might not be any SUs doesn't mean you should just go trade it in for San Andreas. There is a possibility that there are Super Unlockables, just we don't have the right information. * And... how do I stop my posts from becoming that one column thing?
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Deneb
10/29/2004 04:30 AM (UTC)
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Not a single question about gameplay? What a shame. All these fanboys questions about characters and secrets. I guess I'm not like the majority of MK fans.

TonyTheTiger had an excellent question about gameplay for the future MKs... but hey what's more important than to know the truth about the koffin KP or whatever ...

wasted time, wasted...
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10/29/2004 03:13 PM (UTC)
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That's what MK has always been about...
Nobody ever tried to pretend Mortal Kombat is Virtua Fighter, it's obviously not. Would it be better if it could be? Yes it would, but without secret stuff we won't be happy... There have always been better fighters that have appealed less to be because they have no story nor the thrill of finding something secret. Some people like to waste their lives finding secrets, others like to waste their lives learning how to master VF4 Evolution.... I chose to waste my life finding secrets, is that such a big sin?

Deneb Wrote:
Not a single question about gameplay? What a shame. All these fanboys questions about characters and secrets. I guess I'm not like the majority of MK fans.

TonyTheTiger had an excellent question about gameplay for the future MKs... but hey what's more important than to know the truth about the koffin KP or whatever ...

wasted time, wasted...
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DK1983
10/29/2004 04:45 PM (UTC)
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Deneb Wrote:
Not a single question about gameplay? What a shame. All these fanboys questions about characters and secrets. I guess I'm not like the majority of MK fans.

TonyTheTiger had an excellent question about gameplay for the future MKs... but hey what's more important than to know the truth about the koffin KP or whatever ...

wasted time, wasted...



What is the interest to ask questions on a game which is not even still in programming?
I believe that it's all the same more sensible to ask questions on a game which had been released, I don't see in what that makes us stupid fanboys, this is absurd... :/
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10/29/2004 06:01 PM (UTC)
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Scott-Howell Wrote:
If you read one of our news posts after the chat, we said we are releasing a video soon, that we took of Ed Boon and Team doing Fight Night. We'll have it up soon, we just have to clear it with Midway.


Cool. Sorry if I made you think I didn't believe you, but I did. Like I said in my earlier posts I completely believed in Fight Night. If I confused anyone, I am sorry.
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CherryPopper
10/29/2004 07:59 PM (UTC)
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i like the codes for the old mk games that were impossible to figure out on your own... like a pattern of buttons at a menu or like fighting reptile in the pit (i forgot how to do it)
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Ermac7
10/29/2004 09:36 PM (UTC)
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im not gonna bitch about this til it comes out in other places and when boon gives a clear answer, i waiting a long time for the game and i love it, we can all wait a month for the "true" answer. (100% positive Boon will give a more reasonable answer somewhere after it comes out everywhere.)
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-illusion-
10/29/2004 11:24 PM (UTC)
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Sorry to say, but some of you are being inconsiderate. Appreciate the hard work and dedication Ed Boon and Crew put into the game.

Last time I checked, MK was not just mainly about secrets. It earned its reputation as one of the bloodiest-fighting game ever made.
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10/30/2004 01:54 AM (UTC)
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I am very pleased with the game Midway put out.
My response to fight night is a little disappointed in the signiture style that is Mk. Granted i know there was a lot of teasing by the staff and co-creator, Mr. Boon, i did not feel when i walked away from fight night that it actually helped with any of the gameplay.
Questions submitted were seemed to have been randomly picked and there was MK7 questions that were totally useless. gosh they even said themselves they havent even begun but a few ideas on paper.!
we got answers to the big question. but there was alot of side quest questions that were posed i felt were ignored and disqualified. I kinda wonder if the moderator just didnt know how to steer the conversation correctly.. or if he was overwhelmed. This is not meant as a criticism. i feel the major reason and feedback i am reading is the questions asked were poorly chosen, and the joking and foolishness was not stopped or corrected.I agree. I thought the chat was a mess. There was tons of people in the chat that didnt even talk either.
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"What I wanna know is, if this Shang Tsung guy's so great, how come he's got such a crummy looking boat?"

10/30/2004 03:32 AM (UTC)
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Lol... there was a bunch of people in the chat not talking because the mods were the only ones allowed to talk. This was one of the major rules of Fight Night... if everyone was allowed to talk it would have been even more of a trainwreck, if that's possible. That's why people had to submit questions to the mods in the first place.
-illusion- Wrote:
Sorry to say, but some of you are being inconsiderate. Appreciate the hard work and dedication Ed Boon and Crew put into the game.

Last time I checked, MK was not just mainly about secrets. It earned its reputation as one of the bloodiest-fighting game ever made.



This is what I'm talking about "You guys are being inconsiderate"...how are we being inconsiderate? To complain about something that we were promised?

None of us are saying it's a BAD game because of this lack of "super unlockables"...however, he DID say we'd have them, and we don't.


Everyone has a right to be mad about that, they were blatantly lied to.

Stop trying to categorize people who feel lied to, as "ungrateful" or "inconsiderate"...all Boon has to say, to that question, regardling super unlockables, months before the game comes out is "I don't know yet"...that's all.
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Deneb
10/31/2004 04:50 PM (UTC)
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DK1983 Wrote:
Deneb Wrote:
Not a single question about gameplay? What a shame. All these fanboys questions about characters and secrets. I guess I'm not like the majority of MK fans.

TonyTheTiger had an excellent question about gameplay for the future MKs... but hey what's more important than to know the truth about the koffin KP or whatever ...

wasted time, wasted...



What is the interest to ask questions on a game which is not even still in programming?
I believe that it's all the same more sensible to ask questions on a game which had been released, I don't see in what that makes us stupid fanboys, this is absurd... :/


I apologize for this. I didn't want to call you fanboys... I was just pissed, I'm sorry.

But I still think than at least one quesiton should have been reserved for gameplay. I don't know... something about the so-so breakers or the character's balance. Anyway, if those questions were the ones submitted by fans... that's okay



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Deneb
10/31/2004 04:56 PM (UTC)
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DamRho Wrote:
That's what MK has always been about...
Nobody ever tried to pretend Mortal Kombat is Virtua Fighter, it's obviously not. Would it be better if it could be? Yes it would, but without secret stuff we won't be happy... There have always been better fighters that have appealed less to be because they have no story nor the thrill of finding something secret. Some people like to waste their lives finding secrets, others like to waste their lives learning how to master VF4 Evolution.... I chose to waste my life finding secrets, is that such a big sin?

Deneb Wrote:
Not a single question about gameplay? What a shame. All these fanboys questions about characters and secrets. I guess I'm not like the majority of MK fans.

TonyTheTiger had an excellent question about gameplay for the future MKs... but hey what's more important than to know the truth about the koffin KP or whatever ...

wasted time, wasted...


You got a point there... but "wasting their lives" is a bit exaggerated. I would rather say "spending their time" smile

I mean, it's okay to ask quesitons about secrets and all that is story related. But I just can't believe that no one cares about the actual fighting game...

But, if secrets and story elements are the things that people want to know, It's fine.
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10/31/2004 05:14 PM (UTC)
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I know "wasting their lives" is exaggerated grin
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xSpydax
10/31/2004 05:21 PM (UTC)
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You Know..I was expected a big SU secret myself and was up for ne new charaters, but thats not what bothers me about the game...

What bothers me is the lack of time that the creaters have sadly put into FATALITIES..Mortal Kombat became known for its kool and creative finishers..Now, they seem to be almost identical everytime and they become more and more boring as new games come out...The fatalities in this game were horrible... and im sure many would agree with me...I could have done a much better job on many of them and i think creaters should begin to get fan input on these things.....
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"What I wanna know is, if this Shang Tsung guy's so great, how come he's got such a crummy looking boat?"

10/31/2004 07:20 PM (UTC)
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I agree with xSpydax, he brings up a very good point. The fatalities have always been one of the biggest trademarks of MK, and in DA and Deception they're getting very boring, stale, and all around disappointing. I definitely like the idea of Midway using fan input for the fatalities from now on, but something like that is not likely to happen. Honestly, Midway, if I see one more fatality that's just a simple boring decapitation, the only reason I'll be playing MK is when I'm having trouble getting to sleep.
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10/31/2004 07:22 PM (UTC)
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xSpydax Wrote:
You Know..I was expected a big SU secret myself and was up for ne new charaters, but thats not what bothers me about the game...

What bothers me is the lack of time that the creaters have sadly put into FATALITIES..Mortal Kombat became known for its kool and creative finishers..Now, they seem to be almost identical everytime and they become more and more boring as new games come out...The fatalities in this game were horrible... and im sure many would agree with me...I could have done a much better job on many of them and i think creaters should begin to get fan input on these things.....


Funny, I thought the Fatalities are absoulutely awesome in Deception! If you compare them to MKDA, they are ridiculously better - actualy u can't even compare them, because DA's are just so horribly crap.

MKD's have creativity, a bit of humour and most of all - cringe factor.

I mean, Scorpion's when u break your opponents neck and he sort of cheers after - its great. Same w/ Subby's 2nd, gross and cool at the same time.

Honestly, MKD's fatalities are the best since MK2...maybe MK4 - they had some cool ones there too.

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11/01/2004 12:13 AM (UTC)
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Everyone has a right to be mad about that, they were blatantly lied to.


You act as though Ed Boon and Crew has never lied, especially concerning MK.

When MK:DA was in the works, a lot was more said, then done. Such as:
Bruises/Character Gashes.
Rip Clothing.
Revamped Weaponry.

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ShangTsungNiceGuy Wrote:
Everyone has a right to be mad about that, they were blatantly lied to.


You act as though Ed Boon and Crew has never lied, especially concerning MK.

When MK:DA was in the works, a lot was more said, then done. Such as:
Bruises/Character Gashes.
Rip Clothing.
Revamped Weaponry.




While that may be true...ripped clothing, "revamped weaponry", etc. are not something that's considered an "attraction" to me.

These things are either something that you can unlock, or not...on top of that...do I honestly look forward to an MK game, because of ripped clothing? absolutely not, does 99% of the people on this board care if someone rips their clothes during battle? The general answer would be "It would be nice, but it's not a necessity." Are "super unlockables" a necessity for every game? No...but he was asked about them...and he said there would be...that's a lie.

and also, don't tell me how I'm acting, I'm airing my opinion, that I believe the mods are going WAY too easy on Boon, because they're changing the definition of a "lie"...that's the issue I raise...not the fact that Boon has lied before.

He could have lied about Deadly Alliance, Mortal Kombat 2...as I said, that does not make them bad games, I don't see what you're trying to gain, by saying "This isn't the first time he has lied"....yes...but that still doesn't mean if you lie enough...that it's TRUE...a lie is a lie...but for some reason, after a trip to midway, our definitions of a lie, seem abit "skewed" for a lack of a better term.
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JackWinkleBean
11/01/2004 05:23 PM (UTC)
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Well there is a possibility that they are lying about no Super Unlockables. In the Krypt and Konquest there are some interesting things...
Almost every character from MK is shown running around in the Krypt but it might not mean anything. :/
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