Petition for Clan Membership
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posted08/15/2007 03:01 PM (UTC)by
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GrotesquetheBeast
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A few of us users have been throwing around this idea, and we thought it would make a fun new addition to MKO.

This is what we want:

On every member profile, we want a new space to state which clan, from the MK universe, that that user belongs to. users will be able to choose which one they want to be a member of, and there can be ranks within each clan. Of course, if a member can't make up their mind, they will be allowed to remain "Neutral". No clan has a higher status than the other.

By creating different clans based on the ones shown in MK universe, every member can belong to a little "space" inside mko, where he will find other members with the same interests. This could add an entertaining and exciting new aspect to MKO.

List of clans that MKO members can join:

-Red Dragon
-Black Dragon
-Special Forces (Outter World Investigatin Agency)
-Tekunin
-White Lotus Society
-Shaolin Order
-Shirai Ryu
-Lin Kuei
-Elementals
-Tengu
-Houan
-Moroi
-Edenian Freedom Force
-Onaga's Followers (this includes his army, holymen, etc.)
-Shang Tsung's Masked Guards
-Shao Kahn's Assassins
-Brotherhood of Shadow
-Tarkatan Hordes
-Centurians
-Shokans
-Saurians
-Netherrealm Oni
-Sedian Guardsman
-Clerics of Chaos
-Order of Light

(Note: I know some of these are races or groups, but for the sake of this petition we'll refer to them as clans)

(EDIT: I've taken into consideration some of Predator151's suggestions, and I've made a few changes to the list of clans)
Just sign below and leave the name of one of the clans above that you would wish to join if this idea becomes a reality.

I wish to join the Black Dragon clan. And TheSilverSurfer has been appointed "Vice President" of the Special Forces ("President" and other positions are still open). Please PM me if you have any questions.

Thanks To:

-LiuKangFighter, for coming up with the idea in general
-Barakaz_cuz, for giving the list of clans
-nightcrow for giving ideas and input
-TheSilverSurfer, for helping me move along with this petition
-And to Sharpeye for all the help, and for directing this project

Without you all, this wouldn't be possible. Now all we have to do is get enough signatures

Total Signatures (as of August 5th): 42
Update! Update! August 5th, 2007
This afternoon I showed the petition to DAB himself, I asked "Does this have enought signatures?", he said, "It'll never have enough signatures".
he went on to say:
"I'm sorry but we have absolutely no plans to make any functional changes in the V7 codebase."
but he added:
"Maybe we might include something like that in the next version of the site (whenever that happens), but it's not something we're going to implement."
So all hopes are lost for now. I'd like to thank everyone who signed this petition and voiced their support, without you there would never have been hope in the first place.
Even though this idea has an unsure future, I will continue to advertise it on my signature, so that it may gather even more signatures through the years, until it is implemented.
perhaps we, as users, could form clans of our own, and wear the clan symbols on our signatures or something like that, to signify which one we're in. We could make official clan thread and have art or writing competitions on our own possibly. Just a thought.
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Sharpeye
06/28/2007 10:59 PM (UTC)
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I agree.

lin-kuie.grin
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outworld222
06/28/2007 11:36 PM (UTC)
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Good idea.

I want to join the Outer World Investigation Agency.
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LiuKangFighter
06/28/2007 11:41 PM (UTC)
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Thanks man. and thank you for posting this. I will join The Shaolin Order. Could I be it's leader/grandmaster?
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Maverick3176
06/29/2007 01:02 AM (UTC)
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hmmm this is interesting. However, for those of us in established online clans...this might get confusing. Plus what if i join a clan and someone I hate joins...then what...clans should have a degree of exclusivity to them, it shouldnt just be a matter of signing up.

I do vote yes.

Although I may never use it. If others will have fun with it then so be it.
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RaisnCain
06/29/2007 01:16 AM (UTC)
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Sure, whatever floats your boat. I'll take Shaolin Order.
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Shinnok-fan64
06/29/2007 01:28 AM (UTC)
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I'll be in the Elder Gods.
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LiuKangFighter
06/29/2007 01:35 AM (UTC)
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Elder Gods is a team? GTB, how about only the people who helped start this be Elder Gods? This is just a suggestion. Your choice, I don't really care, except that there might be a lot of people in elder gods. Oh, and you have Suarians and Zaterrans as two categories, when they are one and the same.
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outworld222
06/29/2007 01:50 AM (UTC)
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Ok I still can't decide if I want Special Forces or Outer World Investigation Agency. Can't I just be both?? I mean, they are almost one and the same, right?
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Sharpeye
06/29/2007 01:55 AM (UTC)
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outworld222 Wrote:
Ok I still can't decide if I want Special Forces or Outer World Investigation Agency. Can't I just be both?? I mean, they are almost one and the same, right?
you can go nuetralgrin
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Cyber_EV1L
06/29/2007 02:04 AM (UTC)
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Tekunin.
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06/29/2007 03:36 AM (UTC)
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Ok, there will be an amount of exclusivity in the clans, Maverick, once there gets to be a large amount of people joining. I should have explained that better in the first post.

LKF, I think that the Elder Gods optin should be open to everyone, so noone feels left out. Plus, like I said, no clan has a higher status than any other, they will all be equal in terms of which members can join. And thanks for clearing up that Zaterrian thing, my bad.

Good point, o222, I was contemplating the same thing. I think I'll just put "Special Forces" in parenthesis next to "Outer World Investigation agency", since they're like the same thing pretty much.


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TheSilverSurfer
06/29/2007 04:12 AM (UTC)
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Good work Grotesque, and if you sign your name with the thread, and your desired clan "without arguing", there's a good chance clans will get made.






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Barakaz_cuz
06/29/2007 04:17 AM (UTC)
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Sure why not?

If so I wanna be a Moroi Elder. ^_^
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Cyber_EV1L
06/29/2007 04:19 AM (UTC)
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Barakaz_cuz Wrote:
Sure why not?

If so I wanna be a Moroi Elder. ^_^

I thought you would've picked Tarkatan Hordegrin.
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06/29/2007 02:38 PM (UTC)
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i guess i will be Onagas Holymen
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06/29/2007 04:39 PM (UTC)
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Well, this is pretty famous. I like the idea, essentially....but I'm also skeptical because of this pettitions method of execution. You have some conceptual vacancies....

GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:

This is what we want:

On every member profile, we want a new space to state which clan, from the MK universe, that that user belongs to. users will be able to choose which one they want to be a member of, and there can be ranks within each clan. Of course, if a member can't make up their mind, they will be allowed to remain "Neutral". No clan has a higher status than the other.

By creating different clans based on the ones shown in MK universe, every member can belong to a little "space" inside mko, where he will find other members with the same interests. This could add an entertaining and exciting new aspect to MKO.


But what's the point? Like, why would I want to be in any of the factions?

Where's the exclusivity? What do I get for being in whatever clan that should define me?

Why are there ranks? We already have a ranking system on MkO...why do you want to add more...little ones? How is that helping whoever?

What's stopping me from being a "clan whore" (you know there would be that one guy) and switching to a new clan everyday?

What about discipline? Have you thought about a reward system?

That's just a few that came to mind.

Far as the list, here's what I see right off hand:
GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
List of clans that MKO members can join:

1.-Red Dragon
2.-Black Dragon
3.-Outer World Investigation Agency (Special Forces)
4.-Tekunin
5.-White Lotus Society
6.-Shaolin Order
7.-Shirai Ryu
8.-Lin Kuei
9.-Elder Gods
10.-Elemental Gods
11.-Tengu
12.-Houan
13.-Moroi
14.-Edenian Freedom Force
15.-Onaga's Holymen
16.-Shang Tsung's Shadow Priests
17.-Shao Kahn's Assassins
18.-Brotherhood of Shadow
19.-Tarkatan Hordes
20.-Centurians
21.-Shokans
22.-Saurians
23.-Netherrealm Oni
24.-Sedian Guardsman
25.-Clerics of Chaos
26.-Order of Light

(Note: I know some of these are races or groups, but for the sake of this petition we'll refer to them as clans)



1. Good Idea
2. Good Idea

3. Special Forces should be non-specific as a clan imO. The "Outter World" thing might be a rank with in the clan. I'd say, take the that part out of the title of the clan. Other than that?...Good Idea

4. Good Idea
5. Good Idea
6. Good Idea
7. Good Idea
8. Good Idea

9. Bad Idea: Confusion with the sites Elder Gods. An excuse for that "God-complex" (lol I had to). But really, elder gods in general should be so exclusive, to a point, like on MkO already, there's only so many of them.

10. Good Idea: Better than the Elder God clan idea because there are more elements to choose from. Also, take "Gods" out of it and just make them Elementals. Maybe the gods of this clan will be the final rank,...like the representatives or examples of the clan.

11. - 13. Not bad but you will have to explain these three more. Be careful of the factions we don't know much about yet though, because they may change orientation given more "official" information about them. I'd just leave them out of consideration for now. Maybe another games release or so.

14. O.k., but it does sound a little cheesy imO though.
15. Onagas Holy men? What about his army? There's already infa-stucture for ranks and everything there...

16. Again with the site confusion. How about sorcerers, or warlocks, wizards or something?

17. This one's alright too I guess, but has a hint of cheeze. lol

18. Good Idea

19. - 26. O.k. Cool infa-structure is there already too.


Another thing I see is potential for personalizing using more than one faction here. For instance I'm a saggitarius, maybe I'd want to be a Centaur who is in the Elemental clan?


_______

Overall I think it's a cool idea as long as it doesn't conflict with how the site currently operates now at all. We kinda...sorta have a hint of this clan idea already with the Site Themes.

So sure I'll sign, and a "clan", if I were part of one would be The Elementals.

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06/29/2007 06:40 PM (UTC)
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ThePredator151 Wrote:
Well, this is pretty famous. I like the idea, essentially....but I'm also skeptical because of this pettitions method of execution. You have some conceptual vacancies....

GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:

This is what we want:

On every member profile, we want a new space to state which clan, from the MK universe, that that user belongs to. users will be able to choose which one they want to be a member of, and there can be ranks within each clan. Of course, if a member can't make up their mind, they will be allowed to remain "Neutral". No clan has a higher status than the other.

By creating different clans based on the ones shown in MK universe, every member can belong to a little "space" inside mko, where he will find other members with the same interests. This could add an entertaining and exciting new aspect to MKO.


But what's the point? Like, why would I want to be in any of the factions?

Where's the exclusivity? What do I get for being in whatever clan that should define me?

Why are there ranks? We already have a ranking system on MkO...why do you want to add more...little ones? How is that helping whoever?

What's stopping me from being a "clan whore" (you know there would be that one guy) and switching to a new clan everyday?

What about discipline? Have you thought about a reward system?

That's just a few that came to mind.

Far as the list, here's what I see right off hand:
GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
List of clans that MKO members can join:

1.-Red Dragon
2.-Black Dragon
3.-Outer World Investigation Agency (Special Forces)
4.-Tekunin
5.-White Lotus Society
6.-Shaolin Order
7.-Shirai Ryu
8.-Lin Kuei
9.-Elder Gods
10.-Elemental Gods
11.-Tengu
12.-Houan
13.-Moroi
14.-Edenian Freedom Force
15.-Onaga's Holymen
16.-Shang Tsung's Shadow Priests
17.-Shao Kahn's Assassins
18.-Brotherhood of Shadow
19.-Tarkatan Hordes
20.-Centurians
21.-Shokans
22.-Saurians
23.-Netherrealm Oni
24.-Sedian Guardsman
25.-Clerics of Chaos
26.-Order of Light

(Note: I know some of these are races or groups, but for the sake of this petition we'll refer to them as clans)



1. Good Idea
2. Good Idea

3. Special Forces should be non-specific as a clan imO. The "Outter World" thing might be a rank with in the clan. I'd say, take the that part out of the title of the clan. Other than that?...Good Idea

4. Good Idea
5. Good Idea
6. Good Idea
7. Good Idea
8. Good Idea

9. Bad Idea: Confusion with the sites Elder Gods. An excuse for that "God-complex" (lol I had to). But really, elder gods in general should be so exclusive, to a point, like on MkO already, there's only so many of them.

10. Good Idea: Better than the Elder God clan idea because there are more elements to choose from. Also, take "Gods" out of it and just make them Elementals. Maybe the gods of this clan will be the final rank,...like the representatives or examples of the clan.

11. - 13. Not bad but you will have to explain these three more. Be careful of the factions we don't know much about yet though, because they may change orientation given more "official" information about them. I'd just leave them out of consideration for now. Maybe another games release or so.

14. O.k., but it does sound a little cheesy imO though.
15. Onagas Holy men? What about his army? There's already infa-stucture for ranks and everything there...

16. Again with the site confusion. How about sorcerers, or warlocks, wizards or something?

17. This one's alright too I guess, but has a hint of cheeze. lol

18. Good Idea

19. - 26. O.k. Cool infa-structure is there already too.


Another thing I see is potential for personalizing using more than one faction here. For instance I'm a saggitarius, maybe I'd want to be a Centaur who is in the Elemental clan?


_______

Overall I think it's a cool idea as long as it doesn't conflict with how the site currently operates now at all. We kinda...sorta have a hint of this clan idea already with the Site Themes.

So sure I'll sign, and a "clan", if I were part of one would be The Elementals.



That's some very helpful input, Pred, thank you.

If this idea gets picked up and becomes reality, there will be more exclusivity to the clans. The members with seniority will Okay new members in, this will encourage people to stay in one clan, rather than clan whoring.

The ranks within the clans can just stay within the clans, not everyone on MKO has to know that a clan just gained a new leader or whatever, like members can gain votes through PMs, or something. As for the which ranks the clans will have (President;vice pres,, grand master, sorcerors etc.), that will be entirely up to themselves.

Each clan leader could make an "Official" thread for that clan where they can discuss such matters.
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outworld222
06/29/2007 07:34 PM (UTC)
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GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
Ok, there will be an amount of exclusivity in the clans, Maverick, once there gets to be a large amount of people joining. I should have explained that better in the first post.

LKF, I think that the Elder Gods optin should be open to everyone, so noone feels left out. Plus, like I said, no clan has a higher status than any other, they will all be equal in terms of which members can join. And thanks for clearing up that Zaterrian thing, my bad.

Good point, o222, I was contemplating the same thing. I think I'll just put "Special Forces" in parenthesis next to "Outer World Investigation agency", since they're like the same thing pretty much.




Thanks for youre consideration. I really appreciate it.

I'de like both to be one and the same. Special Forces is what I want it to be, but OWIA is also a parralel version of it.

So yeah, that is how I see it right now.
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06/29/2007 07:55 PM (UTC)
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Dibs on the President of the Black Dragon Clan postition!
I like this idea, Grotesque, so I will sign it:


Parody
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LiuKangFighter
06/29/2007 08:52 PM (UTC)
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Ah, good Idea on individual clan threads. I really hope this gets off the ground. Then I can create, The Shaolin Warriors!
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mkflegend
06/29/2007 09:23 PM (UTC)
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Elemental Gods.

mkflegend, I'm all for this.smile
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Sharpeye
06/29/2007 09:38 PM (UTC)
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I dont think that there should be vice president that means that almost every body would be a leader and that would be no fun!in the immortal words of lord Baraka"How can we rule a realm with nothing in it?!"grin

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I need a new sig, something with Kabal from UMK3 would be sweet. Just imagine that here
06/29/2007 10:49 PM (UTC)
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parody Wrote:
Dibs on the President of the Black Dragon Clan postition!
I like this idea, Grotesque, so I will sign it:


Parody


too bad, that's my position, you can be vice-president. But, if someone else ,that's cooler than you, wants to be vice-Pres of the Black Dragon, then I'll give it to them, and knock you down somewhere else. tongue

My official signature ---> GrotesquetheBeast-Black Dragon clan.
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Sharpeye
06/29/2007 11:24 PM (UTC)
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Ive been informed that we need two god signitures to make this possible.So if any god could sign this, that'd be fantastic!grin
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