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RazorsEdge701
11/16/2012 12:42 AM (UTC)
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Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
Scorpion's MK9 primary costume fits him well in 3's primary.


Nah, the primary has to be his Kahn's Army uniform. The chitinous cancer outfit will be the alt.

I already used the samurai look for Raiden's MK1 alt and will be using it again when I do DA. His MK3 alt will probably look something a little similar to this.

As for Jax, I'll figure something out but I'm definitely going for a "scientist" theme since he builds the OIA's tech himself and I really want to push that he's more than just a tough guy who talks "street" or a guy whose job is to be the responsible leader Leonardo-type to Sonya's hotheaded Raphael-type., he's actually a really talented engineer. (So...kind of a cross between Leo and Don, to keep the TMNT comparison going, lol)
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Immortal_Kanji
11/16/2012 12:58 AM (UTC)
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Are you also gonna add Kenshi & Quan Chi?

I like Quan Chi's MK4 primary/MKDA alt as his alternate.
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RazorsEdge701
11/16/2012 01:24 AM (UTC)
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Kenshi will be in MK3. Quan Chi will only be an NPC. If I do draw him, he'll definitely be in his MK4 outfit.
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Immortal_Kanji
11/16/2012 02:22 AM (UTC)
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As of Reptile... what of his MK9 costumes?

Baraka's MK9 alt?
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RazorsEdge701
11/16/2012 02:32 AM (UTC)
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Baraka's MK9 alt kind of confuses me, I'm not sure how it works 'cause see, he's got these pieces of armor on his chest, arms, and knees that glow like fire or lava and in the concept art even have smoke coming off of them and I'm not sure how that works, like are they magic or somehow packed with hot coals or something? It's worn so close to the skin, where is the heat/fire coming from? So...I'd have to understand it before I'd want to draw it, lol.

As for Reptile's MK9 costumes, his MK3 alt will probably be based on the primary. The alt is too similar to what I already did with him in MK1, though, I don't really see a point in repeating it unless I wanted to use that gold snake ornaments on his shoulders, but I didn't like those, they looked kinda goofy to me.
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Immortal_Kanji
11/16/2012 04:16 PM (UTC)
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Tremor in this story... can't he have a background like Smoke's & Sub-Zero's of how he got recruited by the Lin Kuei then to the Black Dragon?

Smoke's MK9 alt can surely be Tremor's primary instead.
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RazorsEdge701
11/16/2012 05:43 PM (UTC)
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There'll be similarities between the armor on Smoke's MK9 costume and my Tremor, yeah.
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Immortal_Kanji
11/16/2012 07:19 PM (UTC)
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How would you make Kung Lao's alternate costumes for 2 & 3? The primary costume from MKDA does suit him.

Plus....

Kabal & Stryker.

I liked the spikes on Kabal's helmet. You gonna mix the MK9 primary with the MK3 primary somehow?

Stryker... the helmet suit from mka surely fits for his alternate.

What of Fujin, Tanya & Shinnok?
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UltraKintaro
11/16/2012 07:41 PM (UTC)
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Stryker
Y'know, I have no problem with him wearing it backwards, I wear a hat backwards all the time myself...but he does look more badass with it forward. Perhaps I'll do it backward in his alt if I don't do the helmet.


I've always preferred the backwards cap, it adds more to the "normal guy" thing for me. In fact, the version of him in the Armageddon roster poster is my favourite version of Stryker, even if the only difference it and MK3 is just that his face is slightly different. Shame it wasn't playable.

Noob Saibot
I dunno, Kuai Liang's alt should suffice as the "Classic Sub" costume, and Noob's primary will use the UMK3 design so it makes more sense to do something different with his alt.


Maybe one of his two MK4 alts?

Chameleon
Well the steel undies never made sense to me, they look goddamn cybernetic. I'm gonna redesign Reptile's pants when I do MK4. If I give Chameleon an alt, the stitched together look ain't a bad idea but I'm sure I'll come up with something better to cover his...er...cloaca?


I agree with them being unfitting, it was the only thing I can think of. Although speaking of unfitting undies, will Blaze and Meat have theirs? I never saw the point of them because I just always assumed they'd have nothing there that needs covering up anyway.

And mentioning Tremor and Kenshi in MK3 reminds me, since Kia and Jataaka are in MKA's Konquest, are they gonna be in the Armageddon playable roster or will they just disappear after Taven kicks their faces in? In fact, will you keeping Armageddon's "every playable character" and adding Tremor, Nimbus, Skarlet, Monster, Belokk and Hornbuckle? I guess Nimbus wouldn't quite make sense since he'd most likely go to Heaven after Shang is blown up and isn't really special enough for someone to revive him. And Hornbuckle may be dead/really old by then.
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RazorsEdge701
11/16/2012 09:38 PM (UTC)
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UltraKintaro Wrote:
Maybe one of his two MK4 alts?


I dunno, the hooded coat one kinda sucks, the hood is the cool part and he has that in his main costumes now. The unmasked skull-head one I'll probably do a version of when I get to 4.

UltraKintaro Wrote:
Although speaking of unfitting undies, will Blaze and Meat have theirs?


Meat won't. Blaze'll have something, maybe stone underpants, dunno yet.

UltraKintaro Wrote:
since Kia and Jataaka are in MKA's Konquest, are they gonna be in the Armageddon playable roster or will they just disappear after Taven kicks their faces in? In fact, will you keeping Armageddon's "every playable character" and adding Tremor, Nimbus, Skarlet, Monster, Belokk and Hornbuckle?


Kia and Jataaka'll just be staying NPCs since they have no personality or stories of their own and I can't really think of any way to make henchpersons like them with no intention of betraying Quan Chi interesting.

As for whether I'll be adding the rumor characters to Armageddon...it kinda depends on whether they're dead or relevant or not. I could see Skarlet and Belokk making it in, but probably not the others, though it has occured to me that it might be interesting to have Nimbus pop back up as an undead under Quan Chi or Shinnok's control to fuck with Johnny since he took the leadership role.
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UltraKintaro
11/20/2012 02:33 PM (UTC)
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I'm gonna take a guess at the MK4 characters.

Liu Kang: Both already covered.

Raiden:

Primary – Same as MK2 & 3.

Alternate – Since he becomes an Elder God at the end, maybe all see-through and blue like the ones in the Elder Gods stage and in MK9's story mode?

Fujin:

Primary – His Mythologies costume?

Alternate – Something based on the real Japanese God of Wind like you did with Raiden?

Kai:

Primary – His MK4 primary.

Alternate – His MK4 alternate.

Sonya:

Primary – Her MK4 costume.

Alternate – Some kind of OIA uniform? Or maybe her unused Special Forces design?

Jax:

Primary – His MK4 costume is his MK2 one with the bionic arms and a beard. So that?

Alternate – His MK4 alternate?

Johnny Cage:

Primary – His MK3 primary? He's been in heaven this whole time, so I don't think he's had a reason to change.

Alternate – His black tux? This is the first game he's wore it. Maybe something he wears after they defeat Shinnok and return home in a “The Return of Johnny Cage” event or something.

Sub-Zero:

Primary – Since he wears his brother's uniform in that game, Bi-Han's MK1 primary.

Alternate – Don't know. His frozen limbs alternate won't work until DA, and we don't know what he got up to in the years between 3 and 4.

Jarek:

Primary – His MK4 costume, maybe with the cowboy he wears in the MK1 portion?

Alternate – Don't know.

Tanya:

Primary – Her MK4 primary.

Altermate – Some kind of formal wear? If she's an ambassador's daughter, she's probably have to attend formal events.

Scorpion:

Primary – MK4 primary.

Alternate – Continuing the “more hellish” theme you're going with for his MK3 alternate?

Reptile:

Primary – MK4 primary without the metal thong. Maybe without the purple stripe too? And a Brotherhood of Shadow logo?

Alternate – Don't know.

Reiko:

Primary – An updated MK4 primary that looks more “Brotherhood of Shadow”?

Alternate – Don't know.

Noob Saibot:

Primary – Updated MK4 primary that shares similarities with Reiko's and Reptile's to show their all in the brotherhood?

Alternate – Unmasked MK4 alt.

Quan Chi:

Primary – MK4/Mythologies costume.

Alternate – His original oni self? His DA primary but without the tattoos?

Shinnok:

Primary – MKA alternate?

Alternate – Mythologies costume?

Goro:

Primary – His MK1 primary reused?

Alternate – Don't know.

Kung Lao:

Primary – Something to show he hasn't been living in Earthrealm the last few years?

Alternate – Dunno.

Kitana:

Primary – Her MKG costume.

Alternate – A “Princess of Edenia” dress/kimono?

Cyrax:

Primary – MK3 primary? Maybe a little rusted from spending a couple years in a desert?

Alternate – No faceplate like in his ending?

Sektor:

Primary – Don't know.

Alternate – Don't know.

Mileena:

Primary – Her MKG costume.

Alternate – Don't know.

Baraka:

Primary – His MKG costume.

Alternate – Don't know.

Meat:

Primary – Bloody skeleton.

Alternate – Don't know. I'm guessing he won't have all flesh on his bones until MKA.

Belokk:

Primary – How he would have looked.

Alternate – Don't know.
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Immortal_Kanji
11/30/2012 02:05 AM (UTC)
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For Tremor, don't you think he should be unmasked. No one wants him as a ninja.
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RazorsEdge701
11/30/2012 05:27 AM (UTC)
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He'll dress like what he is. A Lin Kuei who works for the Black Dragon and thus, for Kahn during MK3.
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12/06/2012 11:36 PM (UTC)
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Have you made any for MK3 and/or MK4 yet?
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RazorsEdge701
12/07/2012 11:24 AM (UTC)
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I have extremely rough sketches of some of the male ninjas for MK3. That's the only working ahead past MK2 I've done.
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12/07/2012 01:30 PM (UTC)
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Pretty Awesome designs.
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01/17/2013 12:50 PM (UTC)
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Hey Razor just wanted to know if you have any idea when we might get an update?
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01/17/2013 10:28 PM (UTC)
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chameleon84 Wrote:
Hey Razor just wanted to know if you have any idea when we might get an update?


Keep in mind how incredibly LONG it takes him to do these. Considering what he's told me over PM, maybe ranging from 1-3 years. Check back then, K XP
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RazorsEdge701
01/18/2013 04:54 AM (UTC)
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It does take a lot longer than it ought, and I feel like a colossal jerk that such long periods of time go by without any progress.

Just for a little perspective...I drew the MK1 primaries in 2009.
If it's any comfort, I have been spending bits and pieces of the off-time working on Post-Armageddon character and plot ideas. I briefly entertained entering one of them into the KAK contest, but I don't know if any of them work as stand-alones without the context of the plot or the partners/archenemies I'm creating for them. It'd be kinda like introducing Scorpion without a Sub-Zero for him to seek revenge against, y'know?
Also, most of them don't have names yet 'cuz I'm bad at that.
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01/19/2013 04:52 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
I briefly entertained entering one of them into the KAK contest, but I don't know if any of them work as stand-alones without the context of the plot or the partners/archenemies I'm creating for them.

Shame. Might've been interesting to throw one to the whims of the cycle [in 2012], then build on that existing reference in KAKVIII. It's a tough ask for a contest essentially built on the quality of a definitive character, but I think it's also fair to say the authenticity of a character with dangling plot threads (which could be answered, in-contest) would be nice.

Being overdone, over-written, and lacking that authenticity probably hinders a lot of entries. There's always 2013/2014! [Don't forget to support KAKVII MKOmmunity voting & help us pick the winner, mofos!]
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03/07/2013 03:22 AM (UTC)
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I followed your signature here. I love these. Totally inspirational. Love.
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Gorozilla
04/29/2013 12:56 AM (UTC)
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Awesome redesigns man, keep up the good work! I can't wait to see the rest of the MK2 Kombatants. grin
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Immortal_Kanji
04/30/2013 01:22 AM (UTC)
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Its been months and no updates yet.
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06/04/2013 02:23 PM (UTC)
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Hey Razor, will you be showing the de-evolution of Reptile in future designs?
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RazorsEdge701
06/04/2013 02:52 PM (UTC)
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Indeed, though you won't really notice it until MK4 or Deadly Alliance just like in the games.
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