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03/01/2019 11:47 AM (UTC)
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Wow another disappointing roster, How NRS make their roster choices is completely bizarre to me, if this roster is final I can’t believe Rain and Smoke (or at least 1) hasn’t made it in yet we are getting; Kano, Dvorah, Jax, Jacqui and Shinnok? Seriously who has been asking for these guys??? And as far as story relevance goes I am sure none of these characters are so important and integral that they couldn’t just sit out as NPC/cameo to allow some actual requested fan favourites a roster spot! I mean I know shinnok isn’t entirely confirmed yet but come on how can be in two games in a row and no smoke?????

On a more positive note at least my fav Noob is getting a main roster spot this time round and he looks absolutely awesome!!!!

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ErmaSco
03/01/2019 12:15 PM (UTC)
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Well you can't have everybody. People need to accept it that a self thought ideal roster will never happen. The fanbaee is huge and the cast is big as well so there will always be people missing out.

Roster looks good to me. Kano looks amazing on that select screen. Hope Frost gets hair... I mean she will be like Kronika.

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Onaga
03/01/2019 12:21 PM (UTC)Edited 03/01/2019 12:29 PM (UTC)
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Noob-Smoke-MK11

Wow another disappointing roster, How NRS make their roster choices is completely bizarre to me, if this roster is final I can’t believe Rain and Smoke (or at least 1) hasn’t made it in yet we are getting; Kano, Dvorah, Jax, Jacqui and Shinnok? Seriously who has been asking for these guys??? And as far as story relevance goes I am sure none of these characters are so important and integral that they couldn’t just sit out as NPC/cameo to allow some actual requested fan favourites a roster spot! I mean I know shinnok isn’t entirely confirmed yet but come on how can be in two games in a row and no smoke?????

On a more positive note at least my fav Noob is getting a main roster spot this time round and he looks absolutely awesome!!!!

Well, I was asking for at least four of those characters. You know who I wasn't asking for? Cassie, Jacqui, Kotal and Erron.

@ErmaSco

Well if NRS had paced themselves this go around and stayed consistent with their character roster in each game and exercise some restraint when it came to adding to it this wouldn't be a problem. But they just keep tying that noose with each and every game.

Yes I do mean I would hold them to including every character from MK9 to MKX and then pepper in 3 new characters AKA the Tekken/Soul Caliber (up to 4 at least) method.

Sounds a little demanding? The roster would be massive you say? Well, that's NRS's fault. Maybe that will teach them a lesson in moderation.

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03/01/2019 12:34 PM (UTC)
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I’m pretty sure that was only 100% percent fanmade and the OP of the leak is trolling around.

Seriously, leakers just ruin surprises.

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thisiscourage
03/01/2019 12:45 PM (UTC)
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So Smoke is definitely one of Noobs 50 shadows, right?

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03/01/2019 01:38 PM (UTC)
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Jacquie being in while Shang Tsung is no where to be seen. Seriously, what the actual fuck?

Good. Jacqui needs to be back.

She needs to be properly developed instead of thrown to the side. Shang Tsung's in, anyway. Cary Tagawa won't stop hinting about it.

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03/01/2019 01:55 PM (UTC)
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Noob-Smoke-MK11

Wow another disappointing roster, How NRS make their roster choices is completely bizarre to me, if this roster is final I can’t believe Rain and Smoke (or at least 1) hasn’t made it in yet we are getting; Kano, Dvorah, Jax, Jacqui and Shinnok? Seriously who has been asking for these guys??? And as far as story relevance goes I am sure none of these characters are so important and integral that they couldn’t just sit out as NPC/cameo to allow some actual requested fan favourites a roster spot! I mean I know shinnok isn’t entirely confirmed yet but come on how can be in two games in a row and no smoke?????

On a more positive note at least my fav Noob is getting a main roster spot this time round and he looks absolutely awesome!!!!

Well, I was asking for at least four of those characters. You know who I wasn't asking for? Cassie, Jacqui, Kotal and Erron.

@ErmaSco

Well if NRS had paced themselves this go around and stayed consistent with their character roster in each game and exercise some restraint when it came to adding to it this wouldn't be a problem. But they just keep tying that noose with each and every game.

Yes I do mean I would hold them to including every character from MK9 to MKX and then pepper in 3 new characters AKA the Tekken/Soul Caliber (up to 4 at least) method.

Sounds a little demanding? The roster would be massive you say? Well, that's NRS's fault. Maybe that will teach them a lesson in moderation.

@Onaga

But they don't. They change movelists and animation every game ( save MKDA-MKA) Ed said he likes to change things to make them feel and look fresh Everytime. You don't like it but others do. Heck even Tekken and Soul Calibur cut a huge piece of their fan favorites and yet kept the same style/animation.

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lastfighter89
03/01/2019 02:00 PM (UTC)
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Just two things:

1) Leakers suck. One thing is hinting/joking about the characters that are in, another is posting pics and videos of them, even in a private chat (and no, the internet is never private, not even discord chats, deep and dark web)

Sites and magazines are (like Ign did with Jade and Johnny's reveals) paying a lot of greens in order to have exclusives, and those greens have the purpose of financing the development and the salaries before the actual distribution goes on.

Now that the roster has been leaked why the hell should they pay for something that is no longer exclusive?

2) To all people saying "who asked for Johnny? Who the hell wanted Cassie? Jacquie sucks! Etc"

Get out of your little, pathetic MK communities box Those characters have a larger audience recognition beyond the Mk subreddit or mk fan sites. Just because a vocal minority wants Fujin and Havik it doesn't mean that putting those two in the game is the best thing to do.

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Onaga
03/01/2019 02:03 PM (UTC)
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Noob-Smoke-MK11

Wow another disappointing roster, How NRS make their roster choices is completely bizarre to me, if this roster is final I can’t believe Rain and Smoke (or at least 1) hasn’t made it in yet we are getting; Kano, Dvorah, Jax, Jacqui and Shinnok? Seriously who has been asking for these guys??? And as far as story relevance goes I am sure none of these characters are so important and integral that they couldn’t just sit out as NPC/cameo to allow some actual requested fan favourites a roster spot! I mean I know shinnok isn’t entirely confirmed yet but come on how can be in two games in a row and no smoke?????

On a more positive note at least my fav Noob is getting a main roster spot this time round and he looks absolutely awesome!!!!

Well, I was asking for at least four of those characters. You know who I wasn't asking for? Cassie, Jacqui, Kotal and Erron.

@ErmaSco

Well if NRS had paced themselves this go around and stayed consistent with their character roster in each game and exercise some restraint when it came to adding to it this wouldn't be a problem. But they just keep tying that noose with each and every game.

Yes I do mean I would hold them to including every character from MK9 to MKX and then pepper in 3 new characters AKA the Tekken/Soul Caliber (up to 4 at least) method.

Sounds a little demanding? The roster would be massive you say? Well, that's NRS's fault. Maybe that will teach them a lesson in moderation.

@Onaga

But they don't. They change movelists and animation every game ( save MKDA-MKA) Ed said he likes to change things to make them feel and look fresh Everytime. You don't like it but others do. Heck even Tekken and Soul Calibur cut a huge piece of their fan favorites and yet kept the same style/animation.

I'm just saying this is what has created this problem and at this point, this is the only way to fix it.

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03/01/2019 02:14 PM (UTC)
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FROID

Ha! That's called karma.(for wasting a kombat kast week with a throwaway version that no one will ever play)

& oh boo hoo, muh Reiko! muh Havik! muh Fujin!

If you're good little children to daddy boon, maybe he'll make your no-name muh 3D era characters playable in a season pass. ta-ta!

lol...but...seriously...muh Havik. :-P

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thisiscourage
03/01/2019 02:50 PM (UTC)
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Shinnok picture was released too.

Looks like Ike his body is new and has a clear transition on his neck. Almost like kronika put his head on another body.

Im on my phone so can’t copy and paste the picture, or don’t know how. It’s on Twitter

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Gillbob316
03/01/2019 02:58 PM (UTC)Edited 03/01/2019 03:02 PM (UTC)
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thisiscourage

Shinnok picture was released too.

Looks like Ike his body is new and has a clear transition on his neck. Almost like kronika put his head on another body.

Im on my phone so can’t copy and paste the picture, or don’t know how. It’s on Twitter

I saw that pic, and I'm starting to get concerned that things are getting less reliable now... so I'm filing the Shinnok pic under "grain of salt" for the time being.

There was also a pic of Cary Shang Tsung released which was quickly debunked as fake (using fan-art), and a pic of a big lava-moster-esque character that's seemingly out of left field, and no one can explain... around the same time as the Shinnok pic.

Feels like people are starting to make convincing fakes just to piggyback onto the original leak. BUT who knows, maybe the Shinnok pic is genuine. *Shrug* I have no idea. If he had a new body, that would explain why he'd be a secret (kind of a story plot twist similar to Cyber Sub-Zero)

All that said I am still REALLY hoping the info about Shang, Mileena & Shinnok being extra characters it true, because I'd love to have them.

EDIT: To re-enforce everything I just said, there's now also a fake mileena pic which was fairly obviously a photoshopped cosplayer, and quickly debunked as such.

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thisiscourage
03/01/2019 03:02 PM (UTC)
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thisiscourage
03/01/2019 03:03 PM (UTC)
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thisiscourage

Shinnok picture was released too.

Looks like Ike his body is new and has a clear transition on his neck. Almost like kronika put his head on another body.

Im on my phone so can’t copy and paste the picture, or don’t know how. It’s on Twitter

I saw that pic, and I'm starting to get concerned that things are getting less reliable now... so I'm filing the Shinnok pic under "grain of salt" for the time being.

There was also a pic of Cary Shang Tsung released which was quickly debunked as fake (using fan-art), and a pic of a big lava-moster-esque character that's seemingly out of left field, and no one can explain... around the same time as the Shinnok pic.

Feels like people are starting to make convincing fakes just to piggyback onto the original leak. BUT who knows, maybe the Shinnok pic is genuine. *Shrug* I have no idea. If he had a new body, that would explain why he'd be a secret (kind of a story plot twist similar to Cyber Sub-Zero)

All that said I am still REALLY hoping the info about Shang, Mileena & Shinnok being extra characters it true, because I'd love to have them.

Just got to my computer...

I think you are right... this is definitely skeptical. especially looking at it on my computer....

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barakall
03/01/2019 03:05 PM (UTC)
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Shinnok is fake, based on an artist’s work.

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Gillbob316
03/01/2019 03:05 PM (UTC)
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Yep, Shinnok pic also debunked as fake. Real Shinnok's head photoshopped onto a fanart body...


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03/01/2019 03:15 PM (UTC)
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it's funny that people complain they want to see more the kombat kast are a waste

mkx was too dark, mk11 is brighter- ugh why is sub and scorp have green and red shaders, don't pick that shader it's a choseleak comes out and shows up early concept of the select screen - people bitch
they show images of noob, liu, kano, kotal people are ok some love some hate

then some people feel bad about the leaks, you guys ok? you bitch you want to see the roster, the roster was literally handed to you on a plate (early concept) now you cry cause fujin, rain, havik etc etc are not in, face the facts if they were not in mk9, mkx there's a low chance they will add them in mk11 (i could be wrong so be it)

leak isn't fake its early concept, stop crying that sonya, johnny, jax are in plus cassie and jacqui all your doing with your whining is hurting your chances for the people you want, ED is a cockteaser you fans want so and so Ed sits there and purposely teases you with fujin and rain, hell Havik and Reiko died in the comics that's Ed's secret way of saying 'they died too bad not in this game' so i guess you will have to wait another 4-5 yrs

same with the cyborgs, Ed put triborg into mkx i think that's it for a while we might not see them until mk12, or 13 or 14 so whine all you want
this is the roster you hate the game ok don't buy it but hating it cause frost has no hair or cassie is in and not havik, also it's about time traveling of course mk1 and some of mk2 will be there they started off the games, be happy they added Baraka and Kabal

no where did they ever say that the kids would replace anyone, Johnny says someday you guys will be taking over for us old folks someday, he didn't say when he said someday and you think Ed will just remove Johnny and yet keep in Sub and Scorp? also anything can happen they can go back and forth and make it where they reboot the game again down the line it's their games they can add and not add who ever, just think about it though the more you hate on certain characters the more they will add them, the more you whine about a fav you want the more Ed will remove them

wait and see who the dlc is, i'm not hating on anyone like i've said so many times i'm the person who prefers bigger rosters even if i don't play with everyone, i'd want there to be favorites for everyone, but complaining on these threads or bugging ed on twitter won't make him be like ALRIGHT I'M PUTTING IN FUJIN, HAVIK, REIKO MY GOD LEAVE ME ALONE, remember cockteaser he wants you dangling for more and knows what he is doing his games sale no matter what love or hate of the game they sale, he never says what he means and always talks in riddles. so you hate this roster ok hate it and move on, yes you can have opinions but you have to remember ed's game he can do what he wants and put who he wants. your whining and hating just makes Ed more happy that there is attention positive or negative it's called hype, it gets the money rolling and i'm pretty sure mk11 will sell better than mk9 and mkx did

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Gillbob316
03/01/2019 03:21 PM (UTC)
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Kitana147

it's funny that people complain they want to see more the kombat kast are a waste

mkx was too dark, mk11 is brighter- ugh why is sub and scorp have green and red shaders, don't pick that shader it's a choseleak comes out and shows up early concept of the select screen - people bitch
they show images of noob, liu, kano, kotal people are ok some love some hate

then some people feel bad about the leaks, you guys ok? you bitch you want to see the roster, the roster was literally handed to you on a plate (early concept) now you cry cause fujin, rain, havik etc etc are not in, face the facts if they were not in mk9, mkx there's a low chance they will add them in mk11 (i could be wrong so be it)

leak isn't fake its early concept, stop crying that sonya, johnny, jax are in plus cassie and jacqui all your doing with your whining is hurting your chances for the people you want, ED is a cockteaser you fans want so and so Ed sits there and purposely teases you with fujin and rain, hell Havik and Reiko died in the comics that's Ed's secret way of saying 'they died too bad not in this game' so i guess you will have to wait another 4-5 yrs

same with the cyborgs, Ed put triborg into mkx i think that's it for a while we might not see them until mk12, or 13 or 14 so whine all you want
this is the roster you hate the game ok don't buy it but hating it cause frost has no hair or cassie is in and not havik, also it's about time traveling of course mk1 and some of mk2 will be there they started off the games, be happy they added Baraka and Kabal

no where did they ever say that the kids would replace anyone, Johnny says someday you guys will be taking over for us old folks someday, he didn't say when he said someday and you think Ed will just remove Johnny and yet keep in Sub and Scorp? also anything can happen they can go back and forth and make it where they reboot the game again down the line it's their games they can add and not add who ever, just think about it though the more you hate on certain characters the more they will add them, the more you whine about a fav you want the more Ed will remove them

wait and see who the dlc is, i'm not hating on anyone like i've said so many times i'm the person who prefers bigger rosters even if i don't play with everyone, i'd want there to be favorites for everyone, but complaining on these threads or bugging ed on twitter won't make him be like ALRIGHT I'M PUTTING IN FUJIN, HAVIK, REIKO MY GOD LEAVE ME ALONE, remember cockteaser he wants you dangling for more and knows what he is doing his games sale no matter what love or hate of the game they sale, he never says what he means and always talks in riddles. so you hate this roster ok hate it and move on, yes you can have opinions but you have to remember ed's game he can do what he wants and put who he wants. your whining and hating just makes Ed more happy that there is attention positive or negative it's called hype, it gets the money rolling and i'm pretty sure mk11 will sell better than mk9 and mkx did

TLDR:

7 paragraphs of bitching and whining about people doing too much bitching and whining.

Also, an oldie, but still applies:

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03/01/2019 03:29 PM (UTC)
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Gillbob316
Kitana147

it's funny that people complain they want to see more the kombat kast are a waste

mkx was too dark, mk11 is brighter- ugh why is sub and scorp have green and red shaders, don't pick that shader it's a choseleak comes out and shows up early concept of the select screen - people bitch
they show images of noob, liu, kano, kotal people are ok some love some hate

then some people feel bad about the leaks, you guys ok? you bitch you want to see the roster, the roster was literally handed to you on a plate (early concept) now you cry cause fujin, rain, havik etc etc are not in, face the facts if they were not in mk9, mkx there's a low chance they will add them in mk11 (i could be wrong so be it)

leak isn't fake its early concept, stop crying that sonya, johnny, jax are in plus cassie and jacqui all your doing with your whining is hurting your chances for the people you want, ED is a cockteaser you fans want so and so Ed sits there and purposely teases you with fujin and rain, hell Havik and Reiko died in the comics that's Ed's secret way of saying 'they died too bad not in this game' so i guess you will have to wait another 4-5 yrs

same with the cyborgs, Ed put triborg into mkx i think that's it for a while we might not see them until mk12, or 13 or 14 so whine all you want
this is the roster you hate the game ok don't buy it but hating it cause frost has no hair or cassie is in and not havik, also it's about time traveling of course mk1 and some of mk2 will be there they started off the games, be happy they added Baraka and Kabal

no where did they ever say that the kids would replace anyone, Johnny says someday you guys will be taking over for us old folks someday, he didn't say when he said someday and you think Ed will just remove Johnny and yet keep in Sub and Scorp? also anything can happen they can go back and forth and make it where they reboot the game again down the line it's their games they can add and not add who ever, just think about it though the more you hate on certain characters the more they will add them, the more you whine about a fav you want the more Ed will remove them

wait and see who the dlc is, i'm not hating on anyone like i've said so many times i'm the person who prefers bigger rosters even if i don't play with everyone, i'd want there to be favorites for everyone, but complaining on these threads or bugging ed on twitter won't make him be like ALRIGHT I'M PUTTING IN FUJIN, HAVIK, REIKO MY GOD LEAVE ME ALONE, remember cockteaser he wants you dangling for more and knows what he is doing his games sale no matter what love or hate of the game they sale, he never says what he means and always talks in riddles. so you hate this roster ok hate it and move on, yes you can have opinions but you have to remember ed's game he can do what he wants and put who he wants. your whining and hating just makes Ed more happy that there is attention positive or negative it's called hype, it gets the money rolling and i'm pretty sure mk11 will sell better than mk9 and mkx did

TLDR:

7 paragraphs of bitching and whining about people doing too much bitching and whining.

Also, an oldie, but still applies:

why is it anytime i say something people get so annoyed and start stuff

but when others say shit about other people bitching and whining they get a pass

also i hope you are not calling me 9-15 yrs old cause i'm not, i wish i was 15 again but i'm not

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Onaga
03/01/2019 03:35 PM (UTC)Edited 03/01/2019 03:39 PM (UTC)
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thisiscourage

Huh, yeah I'm with Gillbob316 on this. That looks really sketchy. The body actually looks like a retextured version of his demon form from MKX. The texture quality also looks substantially lower than anything else we have seen in this game.

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03/01/2019 03:37 PM (UTC)
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Huh, yeah I'm with Gillbob316 on this. That looks really sketchy. The textures for the body look substantially of lower quality.

the shinnok, lizard guy and shang have been debunked as fakes

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predac0n
03/01/2019 03:39 PM (UTC)
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LOL imagine being that long winded just to repeat the same thing over and over again for 7 paragraphs

"You whiners should quit whining, so i'm going whine about the whiners"

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Onaga
03/01/2019 03:39 PM (UTC)Edited 03/01/2019 03:53 PM (UTC)
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Huh, yeah I'm with Gillbob316 on this. That looks really sketchy. The textures for the body look substantially of lower quality.

the shinnok, lizard guy and shang have been debunked as fakes

Sometimes stuff just moves too fast for me to keep up with.

Anyway yeah this brings me back to the skeptic table now. I'll just wait for the official press releases again.

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Gillbob316
03/01/2019 03:44 PM (UTC)Edited 03/01/2019 03:51 PM (UTC)
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Kitana147
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Kitana147

it's funny that people complain they want to see more the kombat kast are a waste

mkx was too dark, mk11 is brighter- ugh why is sub and scorp have green and red shaders, don't pick that shader it's a choseleak comes out and shows up early concept of the select screen - people bitch
they show images of noob, liu, kano, kotal people are ok some love some hate

then some people feel bad about the leaks, you guys ok? you bitch you want to see the roster, the roster was literally handed to you on a plate (early concept) now you cry cause fujin, rain, havik etc etc are not in, face the facts if they were not in mk9, mkx there's a low chance they will add them in mk11 (i could be wrong so be it)

leak isn't fake its early concept, stop crying that sonya, johnny, jax are in plus cassie and jacqui all your doing with your whining is hurting your chances for the people you want, ED is a cockteaser you fans want so and so Ed sits there and purposely teases you with fujin and rain, hell Havik and Reiko died in the comics that's Ed's secret way of saying 'they died too bad not in this game' so i guess you will have to wait another 4-5 yrs

same with the cyborgs, Ed put triborg into mkx i think that's it for a while we might not see them until mk12, or 13 or 14 so whine all you want
this is the roster you hate the game ok don't buy it but hating it cause frost has no hair or cassie is in and not havik, also it's about time traveling of course mk1 and some of mk2 will be there they started off the games, be happy they added Baraka and Kabal

no where did they ever say that the kids would replace anyone, Johnny says someday you guys will be taking over for us old folks someday, he didn't say when he said someday and you think Ed will just remove Johnny and yet keep in Sub and Scorp? also anything can happen they can go back and forth and make it where they reboot the game again down the line it's their games they can add and not add who ever, just think about it though the more you hate on certain characters the more they will add them, the more you whine about a fav you want the more Ed will remove them

wait and see who the dlc is, i'm not hating on anyone like i've said so many times i'm the person who prefers bigger rosters even if i don't play with everyone, i'd want there to be favorites for everyone, but complaining on these threads or bugging ed on twitter won't make him be like ALRIGHT I'M PUTTING IN FUJIN, HAVIK, REIKO MY GOD LEAVE ME ALONE, remember cockteaser he wants you dangling for more and knows what he is doing his games sale no matter what love or hate of the game they sale, he never says what he means and always talks in riddles. so you hate this roster ok hate it and move on, yes you can have opinions but you have to remember ed's game he can do what he wants and put who he wants. your whining and hating just makes Ed more happy that there is attention positive or negative it's called hype, it gets the money rolling and i'm pretty sure mk11 will sell better than mk9 and mkx did

TLDR:

7 paragraphs of bitching and whining about people doing too much bitching and whining.

Also, an oldie, but still applies:

why is it anytime i say something people get so annoyed and start stuff

but when others say shit about other people bitching and whining they get a pass

also i hope you are not calling me 9-15 yrs old cause i'm not, i wish i was 15 again but i'm not

To address point A, I'd argue YOU started the shit here. The 4 or 5 posts directly preceding yours were completely unrelated to anything you said, and there was a relatively cordial discussion about whether or not the recent pic of Shinnok was fake happening... then you kicked the door to the thread in and posted SEVEN PARAGRAPHS that were all directed at no one specifically, and seemed to amount to just ranting about people bitching.

Who was bitching? We were discussing Shinnok getting his head welded back on. You came in all guns blazing, "You cry about this!" "You cry about that!" and I'm over here like, "Dude, who are you yelling at?"

Bitching at someone on the internet directly about a specific topic at hand is one thing. I do it quite a bit myself. Bitching randomly at an entire community of thousands of people about how much bitching they're doing... I will never understand. If you're picking a fight with thousands of many and varied people, OF COURSE some of them are going to do and say things that annoy you.

To address point B, I didn't write the comic strip, and no, it wasn't my direct intention to call you out as a 9-15 year old, that was just an unfortunate side effect. I'm sure you're older. The comic wasn't a critique of your age, so much as it was a way to somewhat jovially say: Use some friggin' punctuation!

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03/01/2019 03:48 PM (UTC)
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Let 'em whine. People have been doing that since the first baby was born, and it ain't stopping anytime soon.

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