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04/10/2011 03:14 PM (UTC)
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Human Cyrax and Sector will probably have slightly different movesets. Think Falco Wolf and Fox in Super Smash Bros brawl, or Ness and Lucas, or Ganondorf and Captain Falcon.

The reason i believe this is
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They have the same name and same announcer, but so does Cyber Sub-Zero, and Cyber Sub from the txt leaks is known to have different special moves than the original Sub Zero. So i think they will be similar to their Cyberkinetic selves but still different.
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04/10/2011 03:16 PM (UTC)
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trust me, they'll have the same moves and gameplay. they're alt costumes: the only difference is VISUAL. anything else would be a different character
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04/10/2011 03:29 PM (UTC)
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jagro Wrote:
trust me, they'll have the same moves and gameplay. they're alt costumes: the only difference is VISUAL. anything else would be a different character


Who knows, maybe, maybe not... thats one of the secrets....
They're visual... or do the alts add anything?
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04/10/2011 03:31 PM (UTC)
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jagro Wrote:
trust me, they'll have the same moves and gameplay. they're alt costumes: the only difference is VISUAL. anything else would be a different character


Im sorry but different animations for the same move set does NOT = different character
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Milaana
04/10/2011 03:45 PM (UTC)
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Human Sektor is so stupid, really.

A) He looks like Shang Tsung, which sucks.
B) When I hear SEKTOR I don't think of any asian man... I think of somebody American or Caucasian. The name Sektor is very wrong for somebody asian... Sektor should be non-asian in my opinion just for his name-sake.

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Legendary-Scorpion
04/10/2011 03:49 PM (UTC)
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Well he is Asian, he is the Lin Kuei Grandmaster's Son after all. Deal with it.
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Jaded-Raven
04/10/2011 03:51 PM (UTC)
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jagro Wrote:
trust me, they'll have the same moves and gameplay. they're alt costumes: the only difference is VISUAL. anything else would be a different character


Not just visual. Voices are different as well. More human, of course.
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KombatKhief
04/10/2011 04:05 PM (UTC)
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Milaana Wrote:
Human Sektor is so stupid, really.

A) He looks like Shang Tsung, which sucks.
B) When I hear SEKTOR I don't think of any asian man... I think of somebody American or Caucasian. The name Sektor is very wrong for somebody asian... Sektor should be non-asian in my opinion just for his name-sake.


Sektor & Cyrax are most likely their codenames, not their actual names
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04/10/2011 04:06 PM (UTC)
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KombatKhief Wrote:
Milaana Wrote:
Human Sektor is so stupid, really.

A) He looks like Shang Tsung, which sucks.
B) When I hear SEKTOR I don't think of any asian man... I think of somebody American or Caucasian. The name Sektor is very wrong for somebody asian... Sektor should be non-asian in my opinion just for his name-sake.


Sektor & Cyrax are most likely their codenames, not their actual names


Yeah, like Sub-Zero and Scorpion aren't their real names either.
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04/10/2011 04:07 PM (UTC)
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KombatKhief Wrote:
Sektor & Cyrax are most likely their codenames, not their actual names


Cyrax: Nimbus Terrafaux
Sektor: Wu Lae

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04/10/2011 04:14 PM (UTC)
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As long as the timing and hitboxes of their moves stay the same, it doesn't matter what the animation of them performing the move actually looks like.

So as long as human Cyrax takes the exact same amount of time to throw a bomb from his belt as robot Cyrax takes to launch it from his chest and they both occupy the same hitboxes during it, it won't matter.
(Note that hitbox data is separate from the model you are actually seeing, but for visual reference it would be best if they still filled the same hitbox as closely as possible).

Also, since this confirms that alternate costumes can have different voices/intros/animations, hopefully robot Smoke will just be a DLC costume for regular Smoke instead of taking up a DLC character slot.
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04/10/2011 04:18 PM (UTC)
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Sub Zero (Older): Bi-Han
Sub Zero (Younger): Kuai Lang
Smoke: Tomas Vrbada
Jax: Jackson Briggs
Scorpion: Hanzo Sattore Hasashi
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04/10/2011 04:22 PM (UTC)
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I'm 100% in awe at the moment. I have always loved the fact that Cyrax was African-American. I've always loved him since MK3 this is beyond dope! I just hope that these models are actually playable! Also love Sektor's look as well!
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04/10/2011 04:34 PM (UTC)
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I see many people having problems with Sektor.

Personally, I know i was more worried than all of you. And I love it.

These comments about looking like Shang Tsung beings me back to whites saying blacks all look the same and blacks saying whites all look the same. Which is completely untrue.

Hes asian, has a ponytail and facial hair and a rather similar facial structure with a narrow lower face, just like Tsung. Could they have maybe givin him short hair to set him apart? some frost-like spikey black hair wouldn't go astray.

Sure they could have tried to implement some change. But im not about to complain. He looks amazing. And its exactly what I expected from an asian warrior of that area and time period.

100% happy as a Sektor fan. And that matters more than a passer by's opinion who wont ever pay second attention after this thread.
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04/10/2011 04:35 PM (UTC)
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I absolutely love Sektor's look. Probably more than Cyrax's.
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04/10/2011 04:37 PM (UTC)
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Casselman Wrote:
I see many people having problems with Sektor.

Personally, I know i was more worried than all of you. And I love it.

These comments about looking like Shang Tsung beings me back to whites saying blacks all look the same and blacks saying whites all look the same. Which is completely untrue.

Hes asian, has a ponytail and facial hair and a rather similar facial structure with a narrow lower face, just like Tsung. Could they have maybe givin him short hair to set him apart? some frost-like spikey black hair wouldn't go astray.

Sure they could have tried to implement some change. But im not about to complain. He looks amazing. And its exactly what I expected from an asian warrior of that area and time period.

100% happy as a Sektor fan. And that matters more than a passer by's opinion who wont ever pay second attention after this thread.


Yes, your opinion matters more than other peoples.

/facepalm
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04/10/2011 04:45 PM (UTC)
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nerdrage Wrote:
Casselman Wrote:
I see many people having problems with Sektor.

Personally, I know i was more worried than all of you. And I love it.

These comments about looking like Shang Tsung beings me back to whites saying blacks all look the same and blacks saying whites all look the same. Which is completely untrue.

Hes asian, has a ponytail and facial hair and a rather similar facial structure with a narrow lower face, just like Tsung. Could they have maybe givin him short hair to set him apart? some frost-like spikey black hair wouldn't go astray.

Sure they could have tried to implement some change. But im not about to complain. He looks amazing. And its exactly what I expected from an asian warrior of that area and time period.

100% happy as a Sektor fan. And that matters more than a passer by's opinion who wont ever pay second attention after this thread.


Yes, your opinion matters more than other peoples.

/facepalm


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04/10/2011 04:47 PM (UTC)
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nerdrage Wrote:
/facepalm


Good Save
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04/10/2011 04:48 PM (UTC)
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Casselman Wrote:
I see many people having problems with Sektor.

Personally, I know i was more worried than all of you. And I love it.

These comments about looking like Shang Tsung beings me back to whites saying blacks all look the same and blacks saying whites all look the same. Which is completely untrue.

Hes asian, has a ponytail and facial hair and a rather similar facial structure with a narrow lower face, just like Tsung. Could they have maybe givin him short hair to set him apart? some frost-like spikey black hair wouldn't go astray.

Sure they could have tried to implement some change. But im not about to complain. He looks amazing. And its exactly what I expected from an asian warrior of that area and time period.

100% happy as a Sektor fan. And that matters more than a passer by's opinion who wont ever pay second attention after this thread.
Your the coolest Sektor fan in my opinion. So this coming from you is a sigh of relief. :)
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04/10/2011 04:49 PM (UTC)
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Casselman Wrote:
I see many people having problems with Sektor.

Personally, I know i was more worried than all of you. And I love it.

These comments about looking like Shang Tsung beings me back to whites saying blacks all look the same and blacks saying whites all look the same. Which is completely untrue.

Hes asian, has a ponytail and facial hair and a rather similar facial structure with a narrow lower face, just like Tsung. Could they have maybe givin him short hair to set him apart? some frost-like spikey black hair wouldn't go astray.

Sure they could have tried to implement some change. But im not about to complain. He looks amazing. And its exactly what I expected from an asian warrior of that area and time period.

100% happy as a Sektor fan. And that matters more than a passer by's opinion who wont ever pay second attention after this thread.


I think you're making too much of this. Its not racism since...well...they are cartoons not real people. He looks like shang because he has the exact same hair style, same color scheme and similar body type (as many characters seem to) These rendered polygons don't share real human's inherent uniqueness so just because they gave him slightly asian features doesn't mean people are saying all asians look the same.
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04/10/2011 04:50 PM (UTC)
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nerdrage Wrote:


Yes, your opinion matters more than other peoples.

/facepalm ORIGINALLY SAID "idiot"


To drop it down to something that simple is of absolute retardation. I cant believe you even posted that.

Its meant in a way that changes from situation to situation. Lets (for arguments sake) say your a Smoke fan. I don't believe my opinion would matter on that subject when one of any number of parties are approaching that situation as a fan of that character.

If we are talking about somebody you devote hour upon hour towards in every game. Clearly I would take your opinion over my own(ask Shadaloo). And your opinion is the one that should (in most cases) be payed attention to by the team as long as it makes sense to the canon.

Partially crippled sentence on my part. Completely the wrong impression on your part. And I seen the edit. And im being nice not skulling. bro
jeebus Wrote:

I think you're making too much of this. Its not racism since...well...they are cartoons not real people. He looks like shang because he has the exact same hair style, same color scheme and similar body type (as many characters seem to) These rendered polygons don't share real human's inherent uniqueness so just because they gave him slightly asian features doesn't mean people are saying all asians look the same.

Woah lets back up there. I NEVER said racism. Its a matter of perception. Which is clearly almost unanimous. And read the posts, they ARE saying they look the same. That's exactly what started this. I just believe it is rooted back to that way of thinking. Even I say, yes they look the same. But not enough to make me upset. and I understand the reasoning behind. If Kung Lao grew long hair and lost the hat, he'd look like Liu Kang. If Cyrax shaved his head, he'd look like Jax. Or at least the forum would say so in some cases. I promise you
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04/10/2011 04:54 PM (UTC)
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Maybe shang is sektor from another dimension that went back and time and saved him self by selling his soul to kahn?




or he could just have a beard and ponytail.
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04/10/2011 04:54 PM (UTC)
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A lot of Asians look the same.

Sorry, no offense to anyone but it's true.

But in the land of vidyagame technalagy, the developers of a game can make any face different from others. So there's no reason Sektor should look like Shang. The least they could do is change up the hair and stuff, but they have no excuse.
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iHeartXenomorphs
04/10/2011 04:55 PM (UTC)
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*full African stolen from his home as a child
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Jaded-Raven
04/10/2011 05:00 PM (UTC)
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I'm a Jade fan, but that doesn't mean my opinion has more value than someone who never uses Jade in any game or outright dislike Jade. Every opinion is of equal importance. It's how you present it that matters.

I can tell more about Jade than someone who haven't played as her or haven't bothered to look up her background, so the information I can provide is what affects my opinion about her. So when it comes to facts and information about Jade, I can probably state some things that are alot more accurate than someone who aren't a Jade fan.

But that's only accounting factual information. Opinions aren't factual.

And facts are, Human Sektor and Shang Tsung indeed have alot in common when it comes to looks. The hairstyle, facial hair, the asian features, even the outfit resembles eachother a bit. Someone who didn't know this is Sektor might mistake him for Shang Tsung because of their resemblence.

I'm glad that you're happy with Sektor's look though, Casselman. But please, don't put your opinion higher than someone else's, just because you're a fan.
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