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05/22/2011 08:29 PM (UTC)
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DC Direct would awesome. I have their GL line and some other various ones and they're great. It would piss off the collectors who believe action figures have to have 40+ points of articulation though.


DCD blows. They're fucking statues with shoulder joints. I'd rather have Mattel, and THAT's saying something. hell, I've been asying since 09 that Hasbro needed to do the MK figures. Their 1:18 lines are fucking gorgeous (see Marvel universe and GI Joe) and what we've seen of their 6 inch lines isn't bad either
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RazorsEdge701
05/22/2011 08:56 PM (UTC)
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I don't know what DCD figures you bought but I have an entire shelf-full of Justice Leaguers and Green Lanterns that are articulated perfectly fine.
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ZeeDoctor
05/23/2011 02:30 AM (UTC)
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These look way too cartoony for my tastes.
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Shadaloo
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05/23/2011 03:37 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
I don't know what DCD figures you bought but I have an entire shelf-full of Justice Leaguers and Green Lanterns that are articulated perfectly fine.


What's fine though? I find that DCD figures usually look lovely, but typically they can move their necks, shoulders, elbows and knees, and waists. That's not a lot, really, not by today's toy standards. And a lot of the time with DCD figures there's absolutely no point in even having said knee or thigh articulation as the only way they're capable of standing up unaided is in their default straight-kneed pose. There are of course stands, but those don't even always work proper.

Case in point: I've a number of those DCD lanterns myself, one of them being Kryb of the Sinestro Corps. And while it's a gorgeous sculpt, she is constantly tipping over because of the front-stepping pose she's in plus the weight of the top of the figure, which is too damn heavy - even with the stand on.

You look over at the DCUC figures, and not only are most of them articulated everywhere the DCD figures are, you've also got wrists, ankles, mid-torso. The neck goes forward and back in addition to sideways - shoulders and elbows that go side-to-side as opposed to just up and down. And the figures still manage to look beautiful, all for roughly the same price point as a DCD figure. Not saying every figure has to be Marvel Legends Spider-Man or anything, but there's just something wrong when your 10-dollar GI Joe - and hell, most of today's Transformers - are twice as poseable as DCD's stuff, and look just as good.
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evilekim
05/23/2011 05:01 AM (UTC)
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DCD should've been an obvious choice for WB. These Jazwares figures claim to have 15 points of articulation, so do DCD. Not to mention that DCD figures, include accessories, a stand, and builder figures. Best part is that the sculpts are much better. How cool would it have been to get an MK builder figure for collecting each series?
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Shadaloo
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05/23/2011 05:10 AM (UTC)
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evilekim Wrote:
DCD should've been an obvious choice for WB. These Jazwares figures claim to have 15 points of articulation, so do DCD. Not to mention that DCD figures, include accessories, a stand, and builder figures.


That's DCUC you're referring to, not DCD.
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05/23/2011 07:02 PM (UTC)
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Whoever sculpted the Raiden figure needs to get out of the business now!! same with the people that approved it, it's just AWFUL! how long did they want his head and neck to be? and the hat isn't even right, it's just terrible. Johnny looks more latino or something, the 2 ninjas look ok but they all lookk pretty cheap.
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evilekim
05/23/2011 07:31 PM (UTC)
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Gotcha....DCUC then ;)
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05/24/2011 12:26 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, sure. DCUC is great if you want poor distribution, overpriced figures, and every other character to be an online exclusive. I'm sticking with what I've been saying for years. Hasbro needed to do these.
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05/24/2011 12:52 AM (UTC)
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Vash_15 Wrote:
Yeah, sure. DCUC is great if you want poor distribution, overpriced figures, and every other character to be an online exclusive. I'm sticking with what I've been saying for years. Hasbro needed to do these.


Not like Jazwares are any better. I never saw more than one wave of the MKSM figures when they were out. The only online exclusives were for DCUC were a few two-packs available at mattycollector; anything else could also be acquired at specific retail chains. And really, the distribution hasn't been so poor that I've never been able to find who I'm looking for. For how good these figures typically look, I can pony up twenty bucks.

Hasbro are great, and I'd love for them to get ahold of this license, but they're not exactly perfect themselves when it comes to distribution. When the GI Joe DVD packs were released, not once did I ever, ever see the pack with Alpine in it. They also have a bad tendency of cutting one line short in a flash for the next big thing - now that TF: Dark Of The Moon is coming out, I'm going insane trying to find Generations Warpath and Kup. And I only ever saw RTS Jazz the day I bought him, not since.
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Hatetriot
05/24/2011 07:02 AM (UTC)
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Most Western toylines are subpar nowadays, DCUC being one of the bigger culprits with it's unnecessarily high price tag for it's heavy mold reuse and bad QC.

If I could choose any company to do the MK guys justice I would've picked BANDAI of Japan or even Kotobukiya. Seeing Sub-Zero as a D-Art or even a Revoltech would have been delicious.

That being said Jazwares churns out cheap products at a rather cheap price. You get what you pay for.

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Hasbro are great, and I'd love for them to get ahold of this license, but they're not exactly perfect themselves when it comes to distribution. When the GI Joe DVD packs were released, not once did I ever, ever see the pack with Alpine in it. They also have a bad tendency of cutting one line short in a flash for the next big thing - now that TF: Dark Of The Moon is coming out, I'm going insane trying to find Generations Warpath and Kup. And I only ever saw RTS Jazz the day I bought him, not since.


With scalping and store distribution it's almost impossible to find the figures you want. Even online is shaping to be the best option if you take into account all the gas money it takes to go from store to store, week to week.
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05/24/2011 08:01 AM (UTC)
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Ugly and lazily put together junk that looks like it should be tossed in the 80 cents bin at fucking dollar general.

And Cage's face looks like a smashed testical.
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RazorsEdge701
05/24/2011 09:17 AM (UTC)
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Shadaloo Wrote:
Case in point: I've a number of those DCD lanterns myself, one of them being Kryb of the Sinestro Corps. And while it's a gorgeous sculpt, she is constantly tipping over because of the front-stepping pose she's in plus the weight of the top of the figure, which is too damn heavy - even with the stand on.


I don't know what you expected from a Kryb. Look at the body and tell me there was a better way with that character. Some aliens just weren't drawn with action figures in mind, man. None of my human GLs have problems standing up with or without bases pegged to their feet.

You're right about DCUC though...but again, that's still a DC toyline, which means it's a company WB could be using to make toys for the Mortal Kombat property instead of cheapass Jazwares. I'm looking at a DCUC Superman figure of mine right now with a ball joint neck and shoulders, turning biceps, waist, hips, and thighs, and hinged elbows, wrists, knees and ankles. The only articulation for an action figure I can think of that he doesn't have is that abs joint they put on things nowadays, and frankly, I've always found that one kind of pointless and ugly. I've got a Steel from that line too. I think that one even does have the gut hinge.

Perhaps the difference is, this Superman and Steel are from a line that was meant to be played with, not stood on a shelf for bland display like Direct. And yet the sculpts are just as good if not better. I don't think I've ever seen a Steel this good. Why do we need two lines, one you can get in a Wal-Mart and bends more and one you can only get at a comic book store and bends less, both for the same price and the same sculpt quality? That doesn't really make sense.
But the thing I like about Direct (or I guess both lines) is they're goddamn thorough, they can afford to make the obscure characters. Odds are you wouldn't just get Scorpion, Sub-Zero, and Raiden, you'd get all 30 fucking characters so everybody can have their favorites.
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05/24/2011 10:55 AM (UTC)
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They look terrible.
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Hatetriot
05/24/2011 03:21 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:Why do we need two lines, one you can get in a Wal-Mart and bends more and one you can only get at a comic book store and bends less, both for the same price and the same sculpt quality? That doesn't really make sense.


DCUC and DCD have style differences. DCUC is more about giving the characters their "iconic look" while DCD replicates a character's look in a given story by a given artist. Now I believe DCD's price is justified due to it's higher plastic quality and only being able to sell in specialty stores. With DCUC using a lot of mold re-use (this is pretty much Matty's creed) and being purchased by by retail stores it should have been way cheaper.

RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
But the thing I like about Direct (or I guess both lines) is they're goddamn thorough, they can afford to make the obscure characters. Odds are you wouldn't just get Scorpion, Sub-Zero, and Raiden, you'd get all 30 fucking characters so everybody can have their favorites.


DCD doesn't seem to care about a line unless it has Batman or Lanterns in it, with WoW being the odd man out. They'd probably do the MK staples before dropping the line like always. Hell, look out they treated the Mass Effect line. The first wave is still being delayed and it's been a year so far, and the second wave was eventually cancelled. Bioware wasn't too happy about that one.

DCUC relies on a lot of mold re-use and the characters looking pretty "same-y". They could probably do a very succesful Klassic figures run but they wouldn't get into the MK9 property too far with most of the characters having such intricate details in their attire. Also DCUC does crappy females.
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RazorsEdge701
05/24/2011 07:02 PM (UTC)
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I dunno, if DCD is as flaky as you say, why is it I can so easily find action figures of characters nobody gives a shit about from the comics like Metallo and Red Tornado?
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Spider804
05/24/2011 07:06 PM (UTC)
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No one gives a shit about them? lol
Then again, I don't remember hearing about Red Tornado.
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Keep dunking your Kenshi breadsticks into your Skarlet sauce, people! The main course isn't coming for a while, and you never know when it's going to be disappointing.

05/24/2011 07:28 PM (UTC)
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Luxury!

I'd kill the dinosaurs a second time for even ONE piece of Stryker merchandise, regardless if these guys made it or not.
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Spider804
05/24/2011 07:33 PM (UTC)
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Poor T-Rex. Can't catch a break.
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Keep dunking your Kenshi breadsticks into your Skarlet sauce, people! The main course isn't coming for a while, and you never know when it's going to be disappointing.

05/24/2011 07:37 PM (UTC)
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Poor T-Rex. Can't catch a break.


......I spared him.

Should have killed him while I had the chance!
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Spider804
05/24/2011 07:40 PM (UTC)
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Oh boy, shit's not gonna end well. lol
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Hatetriot
05/24/2011 11:25 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
I dunno, if DCD is as flaky as you say, why is it I can so easily find action figures of characters nobody gives a shit about from the comics like Metallo and Red Tornado?


Metallo was shown quite prominently in the Superman/Batman series which is why he was made in the DCD Superman/Batman line. Red Tornado has always had a pretty vocal fanbase. He seems to show up in a lot of the animated DC shows and has his hand in most of the big DC events.

DCD chooses a given source material and does a handful of characters for that line. If they chose something as large as Mortal Kombat 9 there's no way they would get to all the obscure characters.

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05/25/2011 10:16 AM (UTC)
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Vash_15 Wrote:
Yeah, sure. DCUC is great if you want poor distribution, overpriced figures, and every other character to be an online exclusive. I'm sticking with what I've been saying for years. Hasbro needed to do these.


Not like Jazwares are any better. I never saw more than one wave of the MKSM figures when they were out. The only online exclusives were for DCUC were a few two-packs available at mattycollector; anything else could also be acquired at specific retail chains. And really, the distribution hasn't been so poor that I've never been able to find who I'm looking for. For how good these figures typically look, I can pony up twenty bucks.

Hasbro are great, and I'd love for them to get ahold of this license, but they're not exactly perfect themselves when it comes to distribution. When the GI Joe DVD packs were released, not once did I ever, ever see the pack with Alpine in it. They also have a bad tendency of cutting one line short in a flash for the next big thing - now that TF: Dark Of The Moon is coming out, I'm going insane trying to find Generations Warpath and Kup. And I only ever saw RTS Jazz the day I bought him, not since.


Don't forget that their second action figure line, Masters of the Universe Classics, are only sold through an online subscription. The Ghost Busters were exclusives too. Even the last wave of movie masters was only sold at Matty Collector for a while. And honestly, I remember trying to find the Knightfall Batman, and it took me a month of searching at least 20 stores before actually finding him. I've still never seen half of the ones I want. Also, Jazwares MK figures clogged every KB Toys shelf I saw.

With GI Joe I've always been able to find what I want, same for their Marvel line. I've never had trouble with Hasbro, even when I can't find the figure I want, it always gets reissued a few waves later.The only thing I've ever hd real trouble with was finding the villain figures from their 3.75 Spider-Man line, since the Spider-Mans shelf warm like crazy and the villains are packed 1 per case.
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05/25/2011 02:05 PM (UTC)
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mattycollector.com has no fees for being a subscriber. Getting figures off there was very simple. The only place I ever saw MK(Jazwares)figures were at KB and Big Lots. It was a headache trying to find Scorpion and Sub Z
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05/25/2011 03:49 PM (UTC)
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evilekim Wrote:
mattycollector.com has no fees for being a subscriber. Getting figures off there was very simple.


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