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Army_Of_Ermac
03/30/2011 04:13 AM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
T-rex Wrote:
Gentlemen,start your torrents...

You do realize this makes you part of the problem?

I think its funny how butturt people are over this considering that just about everyone here is buying this game new anyways. Climb down off your fucking crosses folks.


I'm sure everybody here is going to buy Mortal Kombat new but I'm "butthurt" over this because I buy many game on the 2nd hand market due to the fact that most games today are half assed multiplayer games with almost zero replay value. And yes to someone like myself who lives alone $10 can be a big deal.
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03/30/2011 04:13 AM (UTC)
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They haven't tanked because they're too ashamed of themselves to mention anything about this on the package j/k...sorta, After word gets around maybe. Hope not...but i can think of more than a few people I know who don't have the love of Mk that I do and will boycott on principle.
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03/30/2011 04:14 AM (UTC)
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jeebus Wrote:
They haven't tanked because they're too ashamed of themselves to mention anything about this on the package j/k...sorta, After word gets around maybe. Hope not...but i can think of more than a few people I know who don't have the love of Mk that I do and will boycott on principle.


And what principle would that be?
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03/30/2011 04:16 AM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
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I wonder if the trial has to be 2 consecutive days...

Anyhow the demo was leaked to hell and back so I'm sure legit 'codes' will be found everywhere on the Internet after a few days.



Doesn't really work that way. They're one time use codes.

Oh well
TheManWithTheGoldenGun Wrote:
T-rex Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
T-rex Wrote:
Gentlemen,start your torrents...

You do realize this makes you part of the problem?

I think its funny how butturt people are over this considering that just about everyone here is buying this game new anyways. Climb down off your fucking crosses folks.

Dude,I'm buying the KE and the TE new,and I'm still pissed off about this.

It's an underhanded business practice,and I hope it comes back to bite WB in the ass.

Oh well. Even if I do buy the PS3 eventually,I'll take comfort in the fact that it's not the version I'll be playing online anyway.


Yup exactly. I hope WB just realized that the number of new copies sold just TANKED and the number of torrented copies just went through the roof.


Haha...I doubt it
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03/30/2011 04:17 AM (UTC)
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So, in the event that a developer suffered financial hardship as a result of rampant piracy and second-hand circumvention...


Is this a realistic scenario? As in, has it ever happened before?

Also, who/where does the majority of consumers money go to anyway, when they buy the game? And to which positions in the company(WB/Netherrealm)?
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jeebus
03/30/2011 04:17 AM (UTC)
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Weren't you the one who said "if you hate it that much than don't buy the game?" now you're acting oblivious to why someone would do that?
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03/30/2011 04:17 AM (UTC)
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NapalmSanctuary Wrote:
jeebus Wrote:
They haven't tanked because they're too ashamed of themselves to mention anything about this on the package j/k...sorta, After word gets around maybe. Hope not...but i can think of more than a few people I know who don't have the love of Mk that I do and will boycott on principle.


And what principle would that be?

I reckon it's the principle of "giving greedy corporate fucks the finger when they treat you like a criminal for buying used games".
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03/30/2011 04:18 AM (UTC)
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jeebus Wrote:
They haven't tanked because they're too ashamed of themselves to mention anything about this on the package j/k...sorta, After word gets around maybe. Hope not...but i can think of more than a few people I know who don't have the love of Mk that I do and will boycott on principle.


It's the Entertainment industry, there are NO principles.

TheManWithTheGoldenGun Wrote:
T-rex Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
T-rex Wrote:
Gentlemen,start your torrents...

You do realize this makes you part of the problem?

I think its funny how butturt people are over this considering that just about everyone here is buying this game new anyways. Climb down off your fucking crosses folks.

Dude,I'm buying the KE and the TE new,and I'm still pissed off about this.

It's an underhanded business practice,and I hope it comes back to bite WB in the ass.

Oh well. Even if I do buy the PS3 eventually,I'll take comfort in the fact that it's not the version I'll be playing online anyway.


Yup exactly. I hope WB just realized that the number of new copies sold just TANKED and the number of torrented copies just went through the roof.


BULLSHIT, You're buying it, I'm buying, everyone's fucking buying it.
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03/30/2011 04:18 AM (UTC)
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TheManWithTheGoldenGun Wrote: Wow 2 full days! I mean people totally dont have lives outside of gaming like school, work and friend. That could totally get me like 4-6 hours tops of online time once I actually activate the online pass


4-6 hours is plenty of time to see how well the online portion functions.

I dont get the sense of entitlement here. You guys do realize it costs money to maintain Servers, right? It makes perfect sense to have to pay for online usage if you bought a second hand copy, considering that WB & NRS dont see any money from those purchases otherwise.



I agree. Clearly if you buy it used then you don't really care to begin with, and 4-6 hours is still enough to find out if the multiplayer is worth it.

All of these people who think that WB is a crooked big business is full of shit. Gamestop is a crooked big business. Every time you buy a used game that game publisher and developer is losing money, and Gamestop is gaining money. So the franchises you know and love are getting screwed. Ironicly the same company distributing games is fucking the game makers.

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Gillbob316
03/30/2011 04:19 AM (UTC)
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I could have told you that a month ago when I read it in the big giant hacked file. :P
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jeebus
03/30/2011 04:20 AM (UTC)
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Its not just buying 2nd hand...its the EVIL practice of USED CIRCUMVENTION! that's why not a single company has ever successfully produced any new product before. ever. 2nd hand circumvention man...gets ya every time. Just ask Henry Ford about that fancy automatic horse he tried to sell once. wink
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scienceguy14
03/30/2011 04:23 AM (UTC)
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I hope COD does this so it can fucking die......better yet I hope COD does a monthly fee im so sick of that franchise with the noobs lolgrin
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03/30/2011 04:24 AM (UTC)
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People don't give a damn if a business is losing money, they don't give a damn if you're pissed....I mean afterall, you weren't going to support them anyway! You can get mad all you want, but it is what it is
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03/30/2011 04:25 AM (UTC)
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I understand that if you buy the game new, it comes with a code for on-line. Buy it used, you will need to buy the code.

My question is, what happens if you change systems?

What I mean is, I buy the game new and I'm enjoying the on-line play. Suddenly my system fries, brakes, Red Ring/Dot of Death, whatever and I need to get a new system so I can keep playing.

Will the code transfer to the new system as it linked to my account like other DLC? Or am I boned and have to buy a new code as it is a one time use code and I used it up on the old system?


You have to get on xbox.com and register your new console and then do a license transfer that transfers all the licenses to your new console. It can only be done once a year.

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As far as people calling this bullshit.

When someone purchases a game USED the game developers do not earn any money. The online pass helps them get a little profit off of used games as well. Of course it doesn't seem right, but it is what it is. No reason to bitch because it won't change.

Luckily for me I don't play online much anyway. I have mk paid off already and i'll have the code in the game case that i'll use.
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03/30/2011 04:26 AM (UTC)
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What if this is a big April Fools Joke *ducks under a table*grin
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03/30/2011 04:29 AM (UTC)
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jeebus Wrote:
Weren't you the one who said "if you hate it that much than don't buy the game?" now you're acting oblivious to why someone would do that?


That was just an honest question. I protest EB/Gamestop because i feel that when i buy something, the bulk of the profit should go to those who bring us the product. Im just wondering what principle your referring to.

T-rex Wrote:I reckon it's the principle of "giving greedy corporate fucks the finger when they treat you like a criminal for buying used games".


Do you not see the greed in the sense of entitlement here? Its easy to point out everyone else' flaws and such but then you have people here talking about stealing it cuz they want WB to pay for their online usage.
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Army_Of_Ermac
03/30/2011 04:29 AM (UTC)
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jbthrash Wrote:
NapalmSanctuary Wrote:
TheManWithTheGoldenGun Wrote: Wow 2 full days! I mean people totally dont have lives outside of gaming like school, work and friend. That could totally get me like 4-6 hours tops of online time once I actually activate the online pass


4-6 hours is plenty of time to see how well the online portion functions.

I dont get the sense of entitlement here. You guys do realize it costs money to maintain Servers, right? It makes perfect sense to have to pay for online usage if you bought a second hand copy, considering that WB & NRS dont see any money from those purchases otherwise.



I agree. Clearly if you buy it used then you don't really care to begin with, and 4-6 hours is still enough to find out if the multiplayer is worth it.

All of these people who think that WB is a crooked big business is full of shit. Gamestop is a crooked big business. Every time you buy a used game that game publisher and developer is losing money, and Gamestop is gaining money. So the franchises you know and love are getting screwed. Ironicly the same company distributing games is fucking the game makers.



So something like eBay and Amazion is evil? What the about restate market? Or used car dealerships?
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03/30/2011 04:30 AM (UTC)
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DEPRAVED Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:

So, in the event that a developer suffered financial hardship as a result of rampant piracy and second-hand circumvention...


Is this a realistic scenario? As in, has it ever happened before?

Also, who/where does the majority of consumers money go to anyway, when they buy the game? And to which positions in the company(WB/Netherrealm)?

Look at the PSP, Piracy MURDERED that platform which is why 3rd party developers abandoned it.
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03/30/2011 04:34 AM (UTC)
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Army_Of_Ermac Wrote:So something like eBay and Amazion is evil? What the about restate market? Or used car dealerships?


Car companies dont typically give extended service to used buyers.

Builders are only on the hook for faulty work.
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Army_Of_Ermac
03/30/2011 04:38 AM (UTC)
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And what does everybody do when they trade games into Gamestop? By new games with the credit! So I don't want hear how Gamestop is killing the video game market. If anything Gamestop has helped video games become bigger and put them into more peoples hands.
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03/30/2011 04:41 AM (UTC)
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DEPRAVED Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:

So, in the event that a developer suffered financial hardship as a result of rampant piracy and second-hand circumvention...


Is this a realistic scenario? As in, has it ever happened before?

What,a company losing money because of their attempts to stop piracy and fucking over the rest of its customers as a result? Oh,that happened.

jbthrash Wrote:

I agree. Clearly if you buy it used then you don't really care to begin with, and 4-6 hours is still enough to find out if the multiplayer is worth it.

Because I may not be able to afford a game at full price and would rather try to save at least $10 on a purchase,that makes me a criminal who "clearly doesn't care to begin with"?

Get off your fucking high horse. How much of a rich prick can you get?

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BULLSHIT, You're buying it, I'm buying, everyone's fucking buying it.

Exactly.

That's why it's hilarious seeing people go BUT YOU'RE ROBBING POOR NRS AND WB BLIND WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN

Didn't nearly even MK title in the last generation sell well into the Greatest Hits territory?

Hell,the KE and the TE are completely sold out at most retain outlets. If there's one thing NRS won't be doing this year,it's starving.

BecomingDeath13 Wrote:
Of course it doesn't seem right, but it is what it is. No reason to bitch because it won't change.

Do you always take everything lying down like that?

If there's no backlash from this,they'll keep doing it.
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Army_Of_Ermac
03/30/2011 04:42 AM (UTC)
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NapalmSanctuary Wrote:
Army_Of_Ermac Wrote:So something like eBay and Amazion is evil? What the about restate market? Or used car dealerships?


Car companies dont typically give extended service to used buyers.

Builders are only on the hook for faulty work.


Yes not typically but some do, in fact my girl friend just got a used car and the extended service is still good.
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03/30/2011 04:42 AM (UTC)
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All of these people who think that WB is a crooked big business is full of shit.

WB is in fact laden with crooked jerks, they're just not in the video game department. *cough*RIAA*cough*

jbthrash Wrote:
Gamestop is a crooked big business.

Now this interests me. I've been wondering why Video Game devs haven't cracked down on this. Can't they form a trust like the MPAA or something?
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03/30/2011 04:44 AM (UTC)
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Army_Of_Ermac Wrote:
And what does everybody do when they trade games into Gamestop? By new games with the credit! So I don't want hear how Gamestop is killing the video game market. If anything Gamestop has helped video games become bigger and put them into more peoples hands.


I miss when my Gamestop was a FuncoLand...
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03/30/2011 04:47 AM (UTC)
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FallenAV Wrote:
I understand that if you buy the game new, it comes with a code for on-line. Buy it used, you will need to buy the code.

My question is, what happens if you change systems?

What I mean is, I buy the game new and I'm enjoying the on-line play. Suddenly my system fries, brakes, Red Ring/Dot of Death, whatever and I need to get a new system so I can keep playing.

Will the code transfer to the new system as it linked to my account like other DLC? Or am I boned and have to buy a new code as it is a one time use code and I used it up on the old system?


The code will be attached to your online account. So if you log in with that on the new system, you should still be able to play online.
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