No one "come back from the afterlife". If you can't read well the bio, isn't Netherrealm Studios problem. The Elder Sub-Zero dies (then young takes that name) and became Noob Saibot. The rest of the bio is for Noob Saibot, not for Younger Sub-Zero or resurrected Elder Sub-Zero

God I hope that's the case because Elder Sub-Zero needs to be the main Sub-Zero in this game.

Man that's awesome can't wait to see Johnny Cage's vignette

And im probably the only one but if i were to choose ssub's alternate costume it'd be his alt from deception

This was actually my first thought, but then I heard the narrator say that the other one mastered the art of ice and cold. If it was the the younger that was killed with the codename sub-zero, which heavily implies that he knew how to master the art of ice and cold, then wouldn't it be odd if the eldest and (at that time) strongest of the brothers had to master it AFTER his lil' bro? Well, at least now that whole Cyber-Sub topic can be locked in a crate to be looked after by "top men."

I am very pleased by this reveal.

For starters, we learned the enigmatic Sub-Zero's true name. I thought for sure he'd be nameless forever and live by his codename, but it's incredible they are actually serious about fully exploring these character's pasts and origins.

I always assumed the Sub-Zero brothers were close in age, but this pretty much confirms they're twins. They look the same age as children and they are nearly identical as adults as well (though John Turk portrayed both elder and younger Sub-Zero too).

One thing that caught my attention is elder Sub's murder being called "unjust"... and I agree. Scorpion was killed in a fair fight, then came back from the dead with the powers to hell to get revenge on his murderer.

We know Sub-Zero in MK2 was sent to finish what his brother started, but I always thought he also, personally, volunteered to find his brother's killer. He took his code name, wore the same uniform... he was goading Scorpion out of hiding into a fight and if he legitimately was trying to trick Scorpion into thinking he was back from the dead (like Scorpion himself), that would make things very interesting.

But, yes, I agree. It's great to hear the Sub-Zero we all know and love, the future hero, Grand Master, and ice god, is going to carry on his brother's legacy in this game. Now who wants to see him get the scar?!

After Re-reading the bio for subzero on the official site it seems its part Noob and younger Subzero back story, but it does clearly tie in with MK 2.

This.

Besides,y'all are forgetting that the events of Mythologies already happened in this storyline. And as of Mythologies,the only Sub-Zero around is most definitely the older one.

so ed said there will be a new cyborg and it isnt ysubs. so maybe we will see a completly new cyborg fighter...

It's hard to believe people would weep over a character like older Sub-Zero. If he were in this game, we probably don't get to see his brother... or if we did, it would be as some sort of cyborg ice cream maker abomination. Not only that, no Noob Saibot either.

This is the right way to do things and the one that makes the most amount of sense. Raiden seeing glimpses of the future isn't going to change the timeline so much that older Sub-Zero has a magical ability to come back from the Netherrealm like nothing ever happened.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm starting to see a pattern here. Last vignette, Scorp killed Sub with his fatality and Sub was the next vignette to be released. Now, Reptile is killed by Sub by his fatality. Maybe Reppie will be the next vignette released.

Idk, It's probably just a coincidence.

I will say that is one thing I never quite got, how people loved a character that appeared in one fighting game, not including mythologies.

Because he came first! He's the original! And that makes him automatically superior in every way, shape, and form!

Not every original is better than ones that come after it! For instance Grease 2 is far more superior than Grease!

I hope that's the case. You're correct that there's not much room for anything to be altered - the Elder was supposed to have been killed as the first tournament came to a close, and there is no reason that the younger one would have been around yet,, unless he had a reason to follow his older brother.

It really depends on when Raiden starts taking action, and what he does. Scorpion could THINK he had his revenge, but it would require him mistaking the younger for the older, which would require the younger to be wearing the elder's mantle for some reason. The only reason I can think of is the cybernetic conversion process, but that would be happening too early.

Sorry, folks. I'm a conspiracy theorist at heart. I'm just going to use Occam's razor and decide along with everyone else that the simplest explanation is the correct one. This should be the younger....I hope.

As an aside, originally it seemed that both operated under the name simultaneously, but now they present it to us as one only taking up the mantle after the other's death. A slight retcon.

I was being ironic.


In all seriousness, in the grand scheme of things, the only purpose of the elder Sub-Zero is to be dead. Like Uncle Ben in Spider-Man, or Bruce Wayne's parents, or planet Krypton.

Not necessarily a retcon, as they never specified how the "Sub-Zero" name was passed on. It could have been the name was handed down only to the elder of the siblings.

Seems more like a clarification than a retcon.

Glad to see another bio video, nice details about their backstory. BUMMER to hear it's suddenly the young sub zero again, I was really diggin the elder sub zero story. And I always prefered the elder one, but I can live with this, as long as they dont make him too much of a good guy. I hope the team won't do this "trick" again. I wonder what made them change their mind.

Very happy they have names now. So now we can stop saying "Older/Younger".

Also, I really hate the way the announcer said Fatality. I liked the way he screamed it in Scorpion's video.

Clad in blue, this formidable assassin began his deadly path on a mission from the Lin Kuei to murder Shang Tsung. That's when he was killed by Scorpion only to reappear as Noob Saibot, with his younger brother taking on the identity of Sub-Zero. Now he emerges with untold secrets of the afterlife propelling him fearlessly into the bloodiest battles.






so at first it seems hes talking about older subs plot to murder shang, then older subs got killed by scorpion, younger subs took the identity of his older brother, then older subs came back as NOOB saibot. then it says he comes back with secrets of the AFTER LIFE.

so noob saibot has been confirmed too.

What I get from this is that Qwai(?) Liang (who I believe to be Elder) is killed by Scorpion, and Bi han (younger) takes up his elder brothers identity to seek revenge.

I think Qwai Liang is elder because they say that Bi han has to master the power of ice and cold. We know it was Elder in mythologies, whose soul was tainted with darkness since he enters the Nether Realm, so its going how it logically should. Noob will be in this game. It makes sense. And the way the odds are now, it looks like Scorpion is going to die...again. A resurrected wraith and a brother with his mind set on revenge? Either that or they all gang Quan Chi...

Looks like real thought is getting put to the story, as well as everything else. I like.

I don't quite understand the "unjust" murder part. When scorp was killed he had no special powers while Sub could freeze people. Right? Then he got his revenge when he got the power too.

Cool video though.

Was watching this earlier, I'm very glad with this bio.
Before this video, I thought the MK team was seriously about to ruin (cyborg) who I think had the best story and my favorite character in younger Sub-Zero.
I like their names have been given.

That is a ridiculous arguement. Just because he was the first doesn't automatically make him the superior. Elder brother Subbie died by Scorpion's hand after Scorpion was ressurected, younger brother Subbie has survived Scorpion's attacks throughout the rest of the series. That makes the younger Sub-Zero clearly the superior. He's accomplished much more than his elder brother ever did in his lifetime.

Edit: And I just now noticed your reply about how you were being ironic. ^^ However, I still stand by my words.

Could be. His MKII bio always gave me the impression that they were both operating under the name. But I like this new depiction just as much.

That's already been answered earlier in the thread.

If the previous bio was basically told from Scorpion's viewpoint,then this one is being told while keeping Younger Sub's POV in mind. Therefore,it makes sense that he thinks his older brother was unjustly murdered. He probably doesn't even know about that his brother and Scorpion had a history.