I see what you mean.

Just wanna say, i don't mean the Elder God create new realms. I'm saying the new realms already existed, but Raiden perhaps didn't fuse them together as he didn't achieve that in 40 years maybe. And we haven't heard of them as they haven't played a massive part yet.

There must be dozen of realms out there, or are the ones we've already seen the only realms in existence? I'm rather sketchy on that.

I'm pretty sure there are other minor realms, ones that have been taken over and merged with Outworld, aside from Vaeternus and Zaterra. When it comes to Raiden, I would personally rather have him be further developed as an anti-villain instead of having him as the boss in MK8.

Well IMO i'm looking for things that will contribute to the 'Gothic/Dark' feel of the new MK game. And what better way to achieve that than for the Earthrealm Warriors to fight the tyrant that was once formally their mentor in the very first game.

Then again... if the lineup is revamped, then Raiden will be perfectly suited as an anti-villian character like you've said.

Goth and gothic are two different things. Those terms are often associated with one another. It doesn't have to be goth in order to be dark. I do think that Raiden should be a boss, but not right away, hence why I want him to be built up in his anti-villain role, which he's already in, btw.

Hm....

Simplify:

1. Jonny Cage
2. Kano
3. Liu Kang
4. Goro

I feel like all these guys need to go. Face, personality, character, and story. I'd be extremely surprised to see any of them back at all. Wrap their stuff up with MkA. I mean, I still wanna hear what happened to them, and please don't pussy-foot about how they are "wrapped up", but get them up outta here already.

Hm that's funny, they've all been dead at one point or another too. Cannon or not.

Lets see..

6. Sonya: I think it's clear we need something like her in the game. Idk exactly what it is about her. Whether it's demeanor, job description, her moves, or merely what she's wearing in each game....but I'm pretty sure that at least the concept of "Sonya" needs to be in the future games.
~~~~~~~~~~~
If it isn't Sonya herself that returns as a playable character, do it like the Armed Forces everywhere do it, Rank Sonya up("General Sonya Blade" or whatever). Put her in a Position of Power more so than now. Then rank up the next bad-ass female character (almost gotta be a female).

They should be of the same vein character-wise because they are trained very similarly. Military training doesn't sway much from it regimen, especially high ranking officers like Lieutenant and General....

Too, if there is a "new" Sonya type, and the MkTeam really subtly wants to put an element of humor in the game.....Make the new Sonya-type character a weathered drill Sargent(hahaha!). One that ranked up more than she should have because she was just too damn good). She'd be one mean brawd, but she'd be "dirty"-funny at the same time.
~~~~~~~~~~~
At any rate, I'd like to see a more realized Sonya-type character. It's something I haven't seen in any game to this day actually. G.I. Jane (primary costume and personality) meets the Million Dollar Baby(alternate costume w/o the gloves) or something to that effect (sry Leo).

I've always felt like the only real "softness" in Sonya we should see....might be the thong and a reluctant submission to the other sex. lol But that's how they train military officers....

7. Sub Zero: Dude is almost too big not to be in Mk, lets face it. Alot of people like him, his look is always cool(no pun intended), and he's got enough story to move Mk in directions that revolve around him. He's probably the closest thing to what the rest of the game should be developed like.

I'm not gonna talk alot about him, but I will say I want to see him exploited more. Far as his moves and such, he's a Grand Master for cryin out loud. What can a Grand Master do..."if he must fight"? What's the extent of his power? Where's his limit?

I think the closest thing to showing us how fantastic a Grand Master can be, was his MkDa-MkD? fatalities. I'm pretty sure.

More of this...please.


8. Scorpion: I liked him in Mk Shaolin Monks the most in the past....10 years?... It was haw creative they got with the spear and his combos and so on.

Beyond that? *shrugs* I guess alot of people like him.

9. Shang Tsung: I like him enough to want to see him back. But, teach him a lesson he actually learns from. He's now been deceived by his boss in the ultimate way, but what did he learn from it? Does his intellect or skill improve any?

Maybe he takes over his first realm or something, giving him a new perspective on what it means to seek out ultimate power....or something.

For the most part, I like the way they've made him look over the years so, I'd just request more of the same difference here in any further games.

Um..Let us get our hands on that snake fatality that was in the intro of MkD. Maybe make the soul steal more graphic according to whats going on in movies now days. I really liked what was going on for Shang Tsung in MkDa. The soul steal fatality was brilliant imO.

Research and do more with his type of necromancy. He could quite possibly have power over all these dead people in Mk. Like Nitara, and the vampire race as a whole(...maybe that's the realm he conquers. ), Ashrah, Scorpion, Noob Saibot, ect ect...It's necromancy people just an idea though.

I am one who really doesn't care for the morphs, but if anything like this comes back for him....I don't like the idea of having him use the persons moves that he portrays. I think its boring....I think he should really only look like them, walk and talk like them. But mostly have his own moves that could be confused with the appearance of that person.....think about it. That's even more deceitful, especially if we consider a "divide and conquer" element.

~~~~~~
Then on the other hand, if Shao Kahn dies, the inference is that all those who pledged loyalty to him at any time in the past....will die with him. In which case I wouldn't be disgruntled over his Shang Tsungs absence....hm, that's a little too interesting for my brain to conceptualize on right now. So, I'll get on that at a later opportunity.

Either way though, I want Shang Tsung back, and I want him back even more cynical.

What if he came back effected in the opposite as Raiden? See? Too interesting to conceptualize right now..

10. Raiden: And then there's Raiden.

I wanna get this straight for once cuz i think you guys know my standpoint on Raidens future....

I don't think I would mind Raiden being this anti-villain character for maybe another game(cuz I like the ruthless//dark Raiden about as much as the light Raiden.). But, as I have voiced before, I don't think it makes any sense for him to become "evil"...technically speaking. Anti-villain is close as far as his future because its what he pretty much is right now. But again, I don't agree with the whole "make Raiden a boss" deal. It just doesn't make sense with what he's doing right now to me.
~~~~~~~~
Maybe someone cares to break this concept//standpoint down for me? Cuz as of right now, I don't buy it. lol
~~~~~~~~
Now, the Raiden in Mk1 is very similar to our current one because he's not being looked at as the "mentor" right now. He's returned to that oh so lovingly pissed off god that's simply here to do his job...."protect Earth". Sure, what's missing from that is "by any means necessary" but, same thing weigh the scale.
He's again pretty much by himself doing things behind the scenes to ensure no-one threatens his domain. *Cool*

Where do you go from here? Take him all the way away from the "mentor-ship" role completely. That's how you "start all over" with Raiden. I wanna know who on the MkA roster Raiden is responsible for having killed next game. How many did he take out besides Shujinko?


I'm not finished here....but I gotta go.

I missed Shang Tsung, so here are some quick thoughts on him:

I don't think he should come back, but if he does he should continue his alliance with Shao Kahn, Onaga, and Quan Chi to a point. (I'm not saying all 4 of them have to be playable, but I guess they could be involved in the story) Then the alliance should break up and be enemies again. Predictable, yes. Oh well, since when has MK not been predictable?

Okay with that said, recap of MK1 characters:

Liu Kang - Stay dead or align with Dark Raiden.

Johnny Cage - Personally, I want him to come back. Realistically, I don't think he will. If he does, he should stick to his MKA storyline.

Sonya - I see Sonya coming back and having a rivalry with Kira.

Raiden - Become a threat to his former allies and maybe go up against the Elder Gods.

Kano - Have Sonya kill him.

Noob Saibot - Become more of a threat and eventually have a confontation with Sub-Zero, Scorpion, and/or Sareena.

Scorpion - Lose the revenge story and kill Quan Chi.

Goro - Die for real this time.

Shang Tsung - Die, or have story involvement with Shao Kahn/Quan Chi.

I started to think about the Shirai-Ryu clan and decided that maybe it is time for Scorpion's clan to restored, and maybe somehow revert Scorpion back to normal... and lose the whole spectare thing.

So he should lose the revenge storyline (kill Quan Chi, get his clan and family revived) and also turn human again.


Scorpion is crying out for a new storyline.

Yeah, but the problem with that direction is that it takes away from the tragedy that makes a good part of Scorpion's character and story. His family and clan are better off staying dead. People would complain about Scorpion returning to his human self, because lots of Scorpion fanboys and fangirls like the specter aspect as it's part of his gimmicks.

Sad but true.

But he should lose the Quan Chi/Revenge story at least... this has occured for about 3 storylines now.

Also something has also come to my attention.

Why has Scorpy never had an encounter with the Original Sub Zero as Noob?

The guy that killed him in the first place, and he focuses on his brother... all the stuff about him finding out the Younger Sub Zero wasn't responsible for his hassle and that it was Quan Chi... where did Noob appear in this... the guy that actually killed Scorpion originally, ok granted he didn't kill Scorpion's family and clan, but then again Quan Chi wasn't the guy to kill him originally...

Alright, recap, with an added character I haven't talked about yet.



The Dead List:

- Liu Kang: Needs to stay dead. He really doesn't have a bright future in MK anymroe. Best thing for him right now is for his zombie form to be killed by someone like Kung Lao, and his Spirit form to ascend to the Heavens and watch over Earth or something like that, since it's what we'd expect from the guy who's always been the "hero".

- Kano: He's also done. The only mildly interesting concept I could come up with in my wildest thoughts is as temporary as he has been throughout MK. Needs to have one final confrontation with Sonya and get a broken neck or a Kali Stick to the face.

- Goro: Just no. Like I said before, the constant changes of alignment has made Goro a character most of us can't take much more of. He's gotta go one way or the other.



The Survivors:

- Sonya: ^_^ !!! Sonya has a lot going for her: enough that, like Pred said, we need a girl like her in the next MKs.



Contrary to what you might have expected, I'm actually not too against this idea. It's a good alternative to Sonya returning. I do think it's a risky idea, though. Just because Sonya has a large fan base right now, and introducing a "replacement" could hurt that. Many people like SONYA, moreso than her persona. I think it's possible that a Sonya replacement could be received the same way that Kira was in MK:D: the bitch who's stealing other people's characteristics.

I think the best way to go is have Sonya herself return with a revamped look and moveset. As for her going-stale storyline? Scrap the "going-after-the-evil-clan" idea, and give her some bigger meat to hunger for. With Johnny and Liu dead or gone from MK, Sonya IS the perfect character to step into a protagonist role, and same goes for Sub-Zero.



>= ( ! Grr, sorry, Pred, I wish I could agree with you here, too, but we see Sonya going in different directions look-wise, as you already know. You seem to think Sonya should delve more into the "tough" exterior, kinda more "tomboy" than "sexy femme". I'm the complete opposite: I think Sonya's "toughness" should be toned down a little more, and a more "sexy" aspect needs to be dominate her outfit and look for next-gen.


Sub-Zero: It's amazing, but even though Sub is a character we're all sick of seeing, he continues to always remain a fresh character who is interesting enough to be welcomed with open arms each time he returns.

So naturally, we're gonna see him come MK:8. I think the new step to keep him an intriguing fighter and still explore his character to the extent it's worth is to make him a protagonist along with Sonya. He and Sonya are, IMO, the two best candidates for main heroes now that MK:A is gone and we have a pretty good idea of where it could go.

Also we need to hear more about his armor and origins. Doesn't have to be exactly what I suggested for him, but something along those lines. Something that allows us to not only discover more about Sub-Zero and watch him become an even richer character, but also lets us witness a growth of power in the Cryomancer.


- Raiden: They can do 2 things with Raiden that I'll be pretty happy with. They can go further with his "anti-villain" story and bring it to the breaking point, where he can't possibly go any further or he'll become 100% villain material. I think having him go after the Earthrealm fighters who don't submit to the new main threat is a good breaking point, because it's Raiden sacrificing the lives of a few Earthlings to save billions others. Seems like the type of thing this new Raiden would do.

BUT, I also loved Pred's idea of Raiden being demoted and placed among the Earthlings to defend Earth. Raiden would be given the chance to redeem himself from everything he's done. He'd probably be, like, the Earth Reject (since he won't be liked much anymore by this former allies, lol), but he'd be given the chance to replace his dark self with a new personality composed of a love for Earth that isn't destructive, but compassionate. Then he can ascend back to god status after MK:8, whether that be thunder god and earth's protector again, or Elder God and outta-the-game.

OR (I guess there's 3, lol) they can use another of Pred's ideas and demote Raiden, but cause him to become the new Bo' Rai Cho-esque character. He'd be perfect for the role, obviously, and it would give Raiden the possibility to pop in and out of MK Games, but always be more or less "present".


Noob Saibot: He's gone in a new villainous path that I really like, so I think Noob is alright to return next-gen as a foe. BUT I don't think Noob is "ominous" enough to be the MAIN villain, you know? I think he's alright as the sub-threat, if you will. My hopes in Noob being successful in creating his cyborg/demon hybrids, and MK8 havng him unleash these ugly-ass monsters into Earth to prepare it for his ascension. He can be a sub-boss easy with this storyline!

If Noob has a storyline like this, his main rival would be Scorpion, aided by the likes of Sareena and Smoke (I prefer Sareena). Sub-Zero would be the new protag., so he wouldn't be able to worry TOO much about Noob, leaving his allies with a beautiful path to follow next-gen. Everyone's happy!



Scorpion: No more revenge. Scorpion needs to kill Quan Chi in MK:A and give his life a new meaning. Modesty aside, I really do like what I suggested for him all those pages back. I'm not gonna recap everything, but it was along the lines of Scorpion being denied entry into the Heavens and deciding to atone for his past murders both in life and death by saving them instead, and Noob and his army would be the perfect way out for him. A great rivalry, IMO, there's no revenge involved, and Scorp keeps his "neutral" alignment!



Shang Tsung: I'm not gonna do the usual "Talk-about-every-posisble-thing" format I've been using, just because I'm human and I've written quite a bit already. I'll just dish out what I have to say about our pal Shang. Maybe I'll add more later, maybe not.

Here's how I see it: Quan Chi has gotten himself tied up with Scorpion, and Scorpion's not gonna give it a rest until Quan's dead. So the only way I see things working out for the greater good is Quan Chi being killed by Scorpion, meaning our only remaining candidate for lovable necromancer is Shang Tsung.

I wouldn't be mad if Tsung returned, he's a good enough character. But he does need something "new", if he is to return.

Well, I see him siding with Khan in the future storyline, but refusing to just be a "servant". He could threaten Khan to offer his powers to Onaga unless his demands are met. Khan, knowing the extent of Shang's abilities, would grant him power in return. What shape or form that "power" is, I dunno, perhaps a status of power within the "New Outworld"? Well, the MK Team can always come up with something, Shang being the hopeful guy he is.

There's still the possibility that Shang does NOT return. In that case, I'd like to see a female Necromancer . A real dark, gothic chick with the scariest f*cking spells and magic we've ever seen. I personally think she would make one kick-ass new character! I see the manifestation of "snakes" being to her what the color green was to Shang Tsung, kind of like her "theme" or at least the theme of her attacks and powers. Anyway, I'm rambling, this is a discussiong of Shang, not someone to take his place, lol.



Johnny Cage: Oh, boy. I really do like Johnny and I'd love to play as him next-gen, but I'm not in denial and I will admit that his chances are quite slim.

His only hope of returning, like I said before, is his new serious attitude, his thirst to lead and to fight with honor rather than to prove something. I do think this MKA storyline of his is the Mk Team's way to kinda "transferring" him to MK:8 and revamping him as a new-gen character, but then again, it could always just be a way for Johnny to go out with guns blazing, heh.

If Johnny returns, I see him and Kung Lao viewing Raiden's destruction as their goal. Judging by Johnny's new persona, I think he'd make it his main concern to save the lives of the surviving Earth heroes (especially Sonya being one of them). He would worry about Khan, obviously (or whoever the new threat), but his #1 source of fret would be the danger within his own home.


So that's my recap for the MK: 1 cast. Be back soon!

I will not say who i think should leave the mk universe because i think many if not all mk characters have not really been stretched to their full potential. And i belive there are thousands and thousands of realms out there that we do not know of, we just started learning other realms in MKD, so i belive there are thousands possibly millons of other realms out there.

Yes, Scorpion should definitely lose the revenge story. Given the way his story had been retconned, it has been going on in most of his story.

Why Scorpion has never had an encounter with the Older Sub-Zero as Noob Saibot is because they didn't really interact with each other. The only time that could've been possible would've been in MK4, when they were both working for Shinnok. However, we don't know specifically what Noob Saibot did and can only assume that he fought the heroes. But even then, we don't know for sure. If he did, Scorpion wouldn't likely recognize him, and I don't think that Scorpion would even interact with him as he is more focused on going after Sub-Zero.

Although the older Sub-Zero killed Scorpion, Quan Chi later framed the older Sub-Zero for murdering Scorpion's family and clan, adding Scorpion's hatred towards the Lin Kuei warrior. Unfortunately, given the way Scorpion's story was retconned, he blames BOTH Sub-Zeros for the deaths of his family and clan, and we aren't sure why.

Given the evidence I had compiled up in the past, he either blames both of them for being associated with each other and the Lin Kuei, wants the younger Sub-Zero to suffer like his family did, or the possibility that Scorpion doesn't realize that the Sub-Zero he's been after since MK2 is not the same Sub-Zero he killed.

You might be wondering how Scorpion wouldn't know better. It states in his MKDA bio that Scorpion has been after Sub-Zero for many years, believing him to be the one who killed his family and clan until years later, Quan Chi revealed the truth. In part of Sub-Zero's MKDA Konquest, it states that many years ago, Quan Chi framed Sub-Zero's brother (the original Sub-Zero) for the death of Scorpion's family and clan, which enraged the Ninja Specter and led to the older Sub-Zero's death. But yet, there's no mention of the younger Sub-Zero being framed as well.

Then we have MK: Shaolin Monks' storyline, which is indeed intended to retcon MK1's and MK2's storylines, while unintentionally retconning story bits from other MK games, such as MKM: SZ. In MKSM, Scorpion is after Sub-Zero, goes back into the Netherrealm, and somehow wants to kill Liu Kang and Kung Lao. Scorpion is defeated, and that's it. Sure, there are going to be people trying to defend MKSM's shitty story, saying that a lot of things could've happened that weren't shown, but in cases like these, I'm gonna call it bullshit.

But either way, Scorpion is in a hell of a mess in both story and character. I think the best method is to develop something positive out of his crappy MKA storyline and post-retcon personality, gradually developing him into something much better.

To ThePredator151: I don't know if I can quite agree with you on Sonya. Ranking her up is kind of a good idea, but the key thing here, aside from a story change, is her personality, which hasn't really developed. If it has, it hasn't really been shown.

When referring to liking Scorpion in MK: Shaolin Monks, do you just mean his gameplay?

Since when is Shang Tsung a necromancer?

Regarding Raiden becoming a boss, it should be something saved for later on. I like the idea of him realizing his anger towards the Elder Gods for their indifference, not aiding him in great times of peril, such as Shao Kahn's invasion of Earthrealm or the threat of the Deadly Alliance.

Post-MKDA Raiden is not really all that much like MK1 Raiden. MK1 Raiden simply wanted to prove his superiority. Post-MKDA Raiden has a very Magneto/Ra's Al Ghul type persona going on.

To LeoBrZ81: I think what you really mean regarding Kira is that she simply has some of the same styles and specials as Sonya and Kano. In terms of characteristics, as in personality, she's much different, and imo, more interesting than Sonya and Kano combined.

I agree about the idea for Sonya to go away from the "chasing after evil groups" plot, but I'm not sure about her stepping up as the lead female protagonist with Sub-Zero as the lead male protagonist. Either way, I'm more interested in seeing her character get some development.

You may be sick of seeing Sub-Zero, but I'm (obviously) not. I agree that we need to learn more about his armor, ancestry, things like that.

I agree that Noob Saibot isn't boss material, though I don't think he should really deal with Earthrealm. He seems to be concerned with gaining control of the Netherrealm. Sure, he could likely want to get other realms, but I kind of want to see something different with him. I think Sub-Zero would likely be his main enemy, though I'd like to see Scorpion involved.

Regarding Shang Tsung, he's not really in any power to demand such from Shao Kahn. Shao Kahn would simply crush him.

I said A Lot Of People Received Kira That Way when she was introduced. I never said I agreed with any of it. I can't tell you how many posts I saw bashing Kira both MK:D and in MK:A for never having her own moves. So no, I'm not mean concerning Kira at all, especially since I've already stated how much I'd like her as a nemesis of Sonya.

As for her being more interesting than Sonya and Kano combined, I completely and utterly disagree, but to each his own. Kira is just starting out. What she has is a lot of POTENTIAL, and NOT the perfect interest level. Maybe you just don't like Sonya and Kano.



What alternate would you give to make sure Sonya still gets the development she deserves?

Again, to each his own. I personally see Sonya and Sub-Zero as the perfect candidates for protagonists. They both have defended Earthrealm in more ways we can even comprehend, and I think it's safe to say they've done more for Earth than someone like Kung Lao, who is the other candidate for protagonists. This is why I see them as a lot more deserving of the spotlight now that the old heroes are probably gonna kick the bucket.



Like the Kira situation above, I think you misunderstood me this time, too. I'm not sick of seeing Sub-Zero, I've said before he's one of my favorites. Also, if I didn't wanna see him anymore, I wouldn't have spent so much time trying to come up with a possible future for him, and I wouldn't have complimented him so much in my recap, or suggested him as the new lead in MK. When I said he's "a character we're sick of seeing, but still manages to stay fresh and have us welcome him with open arms", I meant that we've just SEEN Sub-Zero A LOT in all the past games, but we will love him every time he pops up again.



Why would Noob waste his army with the Netherrealm? It's freakin' hell! It's just logical that if given the choice, anyone would want power over Earth in place of the wretched realm that is hell. Noob throwing away the incredible power of his new army on conquering the Netherrealm would make him seem like a weak-minded villain with 0 ambition and 0 knowledge of the type of power he really has in his hands.

Sub-Zero can very well oppose Noob and still take up a protagonist role like I suggested. Hell, he should be the one who finishes Noob off in the end.



Shang Tsung isnt' a dumb-ass. He's very intelligent, we've seen that many times before, ESPECIALLY in MK:2 and the transition to MK:3, where he convinced Khan to spare his life and try out his crazy new plans.

Tsung wouldn't just go "Shao Khan, gimme this or I walk", or obviously he'd get crushed like a flea. He's crafty. He'd probably consult Onaga behind Khan's back and gauge the Dragon King's interest in his mystic powers. Obviously, Onaga would want Tsugn serving him over Khan, and to secure his allegiance, he might offer Tsung protection against his old master. That would leave Tsung with the beautiful choice of who he wants to side with, without getting "simply crushed".

1. Ohhh K. I forgot all about that kind of element having a possibility of rearing its ugly head.

The last thing I'd have to consider then, is applying standards of the Military on a "replacement-type" character for Sonya(if that be the case).

I know a little bit about this because a few close relatives have served in the armed forces around me. I get alot of info from them and in turn, see possibilities for an Mk character based on them. Allow me to state bits of "the obvious" for this point however.

So, there's a system(understatement) of finding out what your good at in the military. For every individual your "role" can be different, even if multiple persons are considered for the same rank...
In Mk, if they considered using an idea like mine, to where they ranked Sonya up, they'd need to make the "replacements" talents more obvious.
For instance, some military officers are weapons specialist, and some are just mortar-men or riffle-men...or whatever the case may be.

What happens when you know the characters skills a little more intimately is, the personality for that individual starts to shine through. Because you can see what they went through to become the position they wanted, or were type-cast for....And in a persons critical state, their personality is often the fruit of why that person was type-cast for their position in the military.

For instance, have you seen JarHead? I didn't like the movie that much, but the character that Peter Sarsgaard plays is a perfect example of why people are type-cast in the armed forces.



If a new ranking female officer were to take Sonyas place in Mk(so to speak), we'd need to know more about her. Which, I think, would help definately distinguish her from Sonya on a "character build" level for us, the players.

Doesn't say she has to have the same kinds of fighting styles, weapons, special moves, or story build. But, the "vein" Sonya comes from would be similar in a "replacement".

See what I mean? Not to mention how many different avenues there are to bring a replacement type character to the Special Forces unit. This new character could quite possibly be "tougher" than Sonya because of equal rights laws for women to men, and methods of training being adjusted for that. She could be "softer" than Sonya too because of things like more advanced technology since Sonya had been a "grunt" in the Army.

These are elements I sorely wish they would show us about any Military Officer when they enter them in Mortal Kombat. Hell, look at all these War type video games coming out now....imagine Mk having a "more close to real life" military influence on our Sonya, Jax, and any future military officers and their personas.

My take though.





Totally agree here. How about the whole Tekunin thing?

They're a sort of "clan" I guess, but we got to board their ship. lol I think that's a huge jump in terms of how big a force the Tekunin is....and besides that, I don't believe Sonya will stand idly by while Jax is captured. heheh

I'll tell you the truth, I want a sort of "War of the Worlds" thing to come out of this sub-plot for Sonya and Jax.. And if there are any new ranking SF members, I think it's a perfect time to enter them into the equation here.

What about a "Mole"? Special Ops within the Special Forces, that their job is to infiltrate the Tekunin forces strong-hold.....ect ect...

or are we not far enough along to have one those yet? lol

Good stuff Leo.



Well, no. I don't think she should be less pretty or anything like that, I'm more thinking that if they're not going to build her character up right, at least make her look like a serious Military Officer. I mean, "blonde, big breast,....A THONG?!?!. Who are we kidding here?

When they added the "short-er", "more revealing ", and "more stylish" clothing for Sonya, I gotta be honest, it was just a tiny let down for me. Nothing huge, I still play with her as one of my favorite females...but it's kinda laughable when I know better.

Now, of all people, I know you know what she looks like(heh heh), but just check out the way I'm looking at her throughout the years:

Mk1
or

She looked good in Mk1. She looked like somebodies martial arts instructor that could prrrobably handle a military issued weapon. Stretch for a riffle or hand grenade.

"Sexy" if you wanna call it that...to me.

Mk3


Again in Mk3, the "martial arts instructor", or an aerobics, or fatigue specialist. BUT, this time the looks like definitely can handle small arms....and she just wouldn't look the role of a military officer, without the:

Salute >> At ease.

A Woman, but Strong. Still, "sexy".

Mk4


Now even though I hated Mk4. Sonya was one of the best looking characters imo. Because she looked more her "role" than damn near anyone else on the roster. And "knowing your role" is what the military is largely about.

She had the more serious tone to her, more streamline. Not as much "flash", as the Mk3 Sonya(just a notation there, Mk3 Sonya will always be the best version to me). She had the utility belt, ammo pack on her leg. Cap to the front with the "I mean business" ponytail. Which is a sign of professionalism in business in gerneral.

This look commanded a respect for the character imo. Also, did you notice Kerri Hoskins face here? They tried. lol

MkDa // MkA


Got more literal in MkDa, but I think how bulky and glass-like she came out threw my off. Noh, everything about her upper body threw me off. Except for the color of things, it's all waay unconventional, even for a fictional military officer.

The alt was better, only in that it covered her up a little more, and that it gets closer to what that outfit would look like in reality than the primary.

MkSm


I liked this one all the way around really. It seemed like the equilibrium between all her interpretations so far. Nothing "bad" to say about it because it has all the positives of the aforementioned costumes (exit the belly ring, which is exceptable for this video game, I suppose).

It's simple. Look at all our examples throughout history when either they're on, or off duty. They're not wearing something unless its necessary. Which is a common trained state of mind of military personnel. Let alone any person who's a fighter.

From my experience with military persons, they love the camouflage....and for the vast majority, it's not a fashion statement.






You mean you don't agree with "needing a Sonya element" in the game?
I don't understand entirely....

I agree that almost every character needs better story and personality development. And I agree that virtually none of this attribute has been shown for Sonya.

What's really frustrating for me is that military personnel spend years getting to the ranks they currently are, or wanna be. And thus far from Sonya or Jax, we've seen nothing of what "earned" them the rank they are.

------other relative stuff------

In further games, I propose that if they ever....EVER try the mini game idea again, that they use that as an opportunity. Use it as an opportunity to let us see what it took for Sonya or Jax to become such a high rank. Sht, in real life, alot of people wouldn't cut it past grunt training....hell, some people die during mere sims. Some people get shot accidentally because they didn't treat there weapons correctly....sometimes it's a guy practice shooting who can't handle the kick-back of his weapon that kills someone. That kind of stuff should be in a mini game.

It should allow us to "know" Sonya or Jax better because we went through what they went through (in a sense) and I think, it should be closely associated with a KaK feature, or a "Practice Mode".

Instead of "everybody" always training under Master Bo Rai Cho, Military types get a Drill Sargent......it just makes sense. Think about the other characters in this instance too. All the ninjas, the elementals, outter world-ers, ect ect whatever the faction is. They're "teachers" should be sensibly matched with them. Grand Masters, Sensie, Drill Sargent's, Trainers....some people are taught by no one type of teacher, and learn from the world around them. "Trails and Tribulations" from a hard life....or whatever y'know?

But then, when you play with Sonya or Jax or whoever in the Mortal Kombat contest, you see what it took to become Lt Sonya Blade or Major Jax Briggs. In the process of all this is when you learn things about Jax or Sonya that deepens them as characters in the games. People "hear rumors" about them because they're so highly ranked. Drill Sargent will tell you crazy "facts" about them during a scolding or something.

Not all of it has to come from a bio that way too, and it gives a fantastic reason to play the game over and over....imo.




Yea, just gameplay. I'm not a Scorpion fan much past how creative they can get with him until he's gone.




Since he summons souls from a soulnado, since he helped Quan Chi put spirits back into the bodies of some of Onagas army. Since he re-poseses the souls of those who are dead, recently dead or dieing.

Shang Tsungs "type" of necromancy allows him to communicate with spirits (more command spirits) for cynical purposes. Which is almost to the letter, a definition of a necromancer. The main definition being for purposes of "seeing into the future" in some way.... 1, 2, 3 sources.

Now, Quan Chi is a more powerful necromancer than Shang Tsung. This is because he is more directly summoning, or communicating a command to the dead.

And then, Shinnok even more direct....more experienced, more powerful than Quan Chi and Shang Tsung....but they're all necros'.

The element of necromancy in general is all over Mortal Kombat though. "Sorcery" or Black Magic..."Witchcraft", ect ect...

1. Shinnok
2. Raiden
3. Shao Kahn
4. Quan Chi
5. Shang Tsung
6. Nightwolf
7. Noob Saibot
8. Kenshi (his sword more than anything, unless you count telekinesis. But then you'd have to include Ermac too. But he's more of a "product of".)
9. Nitara & Ashrah
10. Sareena (more a product of)

Like I was saying, there's a couple on the roster who are "walking" examples, or walking products of necromancy. Scorpion, Liu Kang, Ermac, Mileena, Sindel, Onaga, and a few others too.

If we're talking in general about necromancy in Mortal Kombat, it's almost like..."where isn't it?". lol

Necromancy can also be interpreted, or closely related to having a base in the command over inanimate objects. "Communication with Dead, or non-living things". "Animation of the inanimate"....which kinda goes off into a diffrent "mancy" altogether....





I see. Then I would agree....but cautiously. Say that because even in Raidens tainted state he's gonna know better than to go screw around with his leaders. It's already known that he remembers past events, and is making calculated maneuvers towards securing his domain....however ruthless his actions may be.

He should know better because he was solely responsible for what happened to Shinnok, and he shouldn't have the same motivational tools as Shinnok did anyway. Shinnok being more wise about who he was engaging in war, and loosing regardless.

It doesn't seem like a likely path for Raiden to take either because the Elders are not an immediate threat to Earth. Direct threat?, maybe(and for any realm for that matter)....but they've stood without interfering through seemingly worse conditions. To "go do something about Earth" now, and come into contact with Raiden on purpose seems just far fetched to me. Even if this is a reserved concept path for Raiden to take.

Too, at this point the Elders see what's going on with him by now. I have no doubt there because Fujin sees it.

ImO, the only thing the Elders could really do with Raiden at this point, is watch him. Let him build up a case of violations against himself, and punish him later for "Un-God like conduct" in someway. Send the best of the best to try and apprehend, or trick him into going back to the Heavens for a second. Maybe use Liu Kangs Spirit as an excuse or something so they can deal with Raiden without really hurting any other mortals.

You see, my logic is this: Raiden is not supposed to be exercising his knowledge of necromancy on a human corpse. Let alone the body of the champion. He wasn't supposed to kill Shujinko without reasonably considering he made up for it....And he's absolutely not supposed to be "Playing with the Bad Guys". Lol... Puppet Master or not, Talk about a conflict of interests at hand.




How is that so different?

Bottom line I get when I look at it is...Raiden wants to
"Prove who's Running the show around here" by securing Earth regardless of all the evil that's present. Same shade of light that was in the Mk1 Raiden.

Magneto and Ras Al Ghul both figuratively "look" like Mk1 & MkA Raiden to me, they just have different clothes on(they could both, easily be made to look like the good guys in their movies). If you consider that these guys "just know they're right" about their cause, and they have very good, educated stand-points on their position in their matters at hand, then how's that make the goal different for any of them in their situations?

Motive? Motive is the "why" right? So, motive is not different between Mk1 and MkA Raiden, or in their situations, Ras, or Magneto.

Means? Means is the "how" right? Raiden is still ~fighting~ for his mortals, and his realm. The same way Ras and Magneto fight for their causes and "their people".

The only thing that really makes these guys "wrong" is the "who" or "what".
Who or what are they hurting to accomplish the goal they want to achieve?

Who? = likely innocent people or things that are helpless against their motives, actions, and power to achieve their goals.

What? = a rule, or a law, or a way of letting life carry on without interruption. They all violated rules, laws, and ways of life.

Which in my opinion....is punishable by.....?? (making them an evil boss?? Owah?)

--------------
Now, the difference between them and Raiden is simple. Raiden has no desire to hurt or massacre large amounts of people for his cause. It's not even been considered a "risk he might just have to take...."

Which is another prominent reasoning in my mind why, making Raiden an evil boss doesn't make sense here. His targets are the threats to the rules, laws and the ways of life as they currently stand on earth.

He's not targeting regular folk "because he thinks they carry on like vermin to the Earth", he's not targeting the general populous for any change in the way they are, or the way they live. He's not even "targeting" the Mortals With significant Power...whether they be aligned with good, neutral or evil. "Just don't come over here(to Earth) with that bullshit".....basically.

They are of no real concern unless they have done something that seemingly or consequently aids the cause of a threat to Earth- first. Which, so far, has only been one mortal = Shujinko... Nobody else is on the radar but the traditional "bad-dies". lol

I'd be more excepting of a story path that say, Shinnok, Onaga, or Shao Kahn finds out why Raiden killed Shujinko, and then employ a bunch of un-expecting humans to do little deeds for them(same fashion as Onaga employed Shujinko). Which would by chain reaction, occupy Raiden (just because they know Raiden will kill them.) while they get bigger things done to get at Earth. That could make sense in eventually turning Raiden into an "overall bad guy". Because then, we wouldn't be able to tell who he might aim at next.

But that's not the case.....We know he's playing this puppet master type role with the big baddies right now....and we know who they are. So, it's a matter of "which one of those guys", instead of "what the hell is Raiden killing all these random people for?....and who's next, a helpless little child?".

You see, it doesn't matter how he fights for his goal unless he violates some rule that is supposed to maintain an order. Which is what he did when he resurrected Kangs corpse(he didn't respect the dead, let alone it being the latest champion).

I don't even think it was a violation of technical "Order" when he slew Shujinko. That was a judgment call, and imo, within full range of a gods power to exercise.

I think he's only violating "God Order" put in place by the Elders. Too, since he remembers everything, I have no doubt that he knows the rules he's violating, but he's doing things that are affective. Being careful only to commit "smaller" violations to a Gods Order so that there is minimal reasoning for the Elder Gods to intervene directly.

He remembers the rules so, he knows what he can do without provoking the Elder Gods on a major level.....

My take.

To Leo: Points noted on Kira, Shang Tsung, and Sub-Zero. As for Sonya, most likely, I'd wanna see something with her and Kira or just something that could explore her dark potential.

Well, Noob Saibot does want to rule the Netherrealm. Apparently, some power is obtained from becoming its ruler. Who knows what's going on in Noob Saibot's head about that. I think a combination of Sub-Zero and Scorpion should be the ones to take Noob Saibot done.

To Pred: I don't know if we really need a Sonya-ish character. It's just basically as a means of wanting that "tough chick" character. I think that someone like Jade pulls it off more subtly, which is better, imo.

Yeah, you would've though that they would've moved Sonya's and Jax's ranks after MK3, but I guess her superiors are just real assholes or something.

Interesting idea for a mini game.

Points made on the whole necromancy bit.

Regarding Raiden, he would of course have to obtain the power he needs to take down the Elder Gods and probably also to gain some followers for his cause.

What do you mean by being solely responsible for what happened to Shinnok? No, I don't think Raiden would have the same motivational tools as Shinnok, but I imagine both of them wanting to get back at the Elder Gods.

I think it is a possible path for Raiden to want to take down the Elder Gods. For them to have not interfered with at least the situation with Shao Kahn's invasion is pretty fucking stupid of them, namely because with each realm he conquers, Shao Kahn gets more powerful and the One Being's consciousness grows stronger.

But because of the Elder Gods' refusal to give aid to Raiden in the past, and with the realms having been in danger because of that indifference, it could serve as motivation for Raiden wanting to take them down and rule Reality himself as a means of ensuring peace and order.

Even though the Elder Gods would likely know what's going on with him, the cause still seems uncertain.

I think a lot of people think that MK1 Raiden and post-MKDA Raiden are similar or the same, because they are not the benelovent mentor type or whatever.

You have to look at this ending to see that MK1 Raiden simply took part in the tournament to prove his superiority over others and that he soon becomes bored with the competition. In turn, he invites other gods to take part, and this causes the destruction of Earth itself.

Does that sound like post-MKDA Raiden? It sure as hell doesn't to me. Post-MKDA Raiden is simply someone who takes a radical and extreme approach to protecting Earthrealm, not some snobby deity who wants to prove his superiority over non-deities and to cause the destruction of Earth.

He can be a boss character without having the "evil" label, kind of like with Blaze.

Are you sure that Raiden has no desire to hurt large amounts of people? What about reanimating Liu Kang's corpse and sending him to kill people? What about that?

Again, no need for the "evil" label.

Maybe the bad guys can use such a trick, but I'm not too fond of that idea. I would just rather see Raiden try to get power and allies.

Even if he can do things without provoking the Elder Gods on a major level, the thing is that at the end of the day, they are just going to not do much unless the realms are really in danger, like with MKD. Raiden no longer puts his trust in mortals to protect Earthrealm.

I guess that when it comes to a main threat, much more so if it's one against Earthrealm, he could have his own force to deal with it.

Scorpion is the anti-hero of the game and is Ed Boon's favorite character.
We all know that he will return and I believe that the Shirai Ryu is going to return in the new game as a clan of the undead since the concept is first intro'ed in Konquest mode. Likely Scorpion will try to lead the Ryu's into an all-out war against the Elder Gods like bak in MK4 when Shinnock lead his forces against the Gods. Scorpion will always have a sinister role in the game.

Noob Saibot is more than likely to show up in the next game as a new form of his former Sub-Zero self and Noob. I think that since both are popular that Midway will try to intro him as a new warrior with moves that reflect both personas. For example he will have power over ice and the shadows. It is like he is the coming Storm.

Sonya will more than likely reappear in the next game. In a way, Jax seems to be at the point where his character is going to be replaced. They have been saving some characters for when they Create the game from scratch. These characters are more than likely to be Chan Kang, Robert Blade, and former Lin Kuei grandmaster Homairu. Then there is Scorpion's son and wife, and Sub-Zero's sister back in America. Who Knows who will be intro'ed. For now, Sonya is heading for a more serious tone with the special forces unit.

Welcome to the site. Please be sure to read the rules, which you can click here. Please do NOT make multiple consecutive posts like that. There is the "Edit Message" feature for a reason. Use it to edit your first message so that you can add more, instead of making a new post a few minutes after your other one. If another member were to have replied to your first post, then it's ok to post again. But you're just posting multiple posts in a row.

Regarding Scorpion, you sound kind of contradictory, initially saying that he's the anti-hero of the game and then later on, you say that he will always have a sinister role in the game, implying that he's a villain, which is not the same as an anti-hero.

Given Scorpion's post-retcon storyline, he's really been more of a villain or anti-villain or something like that, namely because despite trying to get revenge, he's just been an idiotic jackass, but I won't get into that much. You might be right about him leading the undead Shirai Ryu Ninja in the next-gen MK games, which I would hate. But for him to go up against the Elder Gods is kind of suicidal as I doubt he and his forces would have the kind of power needed to take them down.

As for Noob Saibot, I really doubt that they are going to have him as that fused Sub-Zero/Noob Saibot, whatever the hell that's supposed to be. If they do, it's likely going to be stupid.

Yeah, I think Sonya will have a better chance of returning. Chan Kang? Robert Blade? Homairu? In the MK storyline, Liu Kang's brother is named Chow Kang. I don't know where you got Robert Blade from as Sonya's father's name is Herman and her brother's name is Daniel. Homairu, if I'm not mistaken, comes from MK: DOTR, which is non-canon.

Scorpion's wife and son are dead. We have no idea what is going on with Sub-Zero's sister or even his mother.

That's about it. Again, please DO NOT make multiple consecutive posts like that as we have the Edit Message feature.

Raiden was responsible for banishing Shinnok to the nether. That part, was solely Raidens doing. The "What happened to Shinnok".



At first glance, I thought they were stupid as hell too(lol). But then there's the issue of superiority. There's a ranking by power system there. Shinnok->> Raiden->>Fujin...whatever, whatever..

Like, if I'm an Elder God, and am able to view Raiden as say, a "son" or "subordinate" of any kind, there is a "reasonable doubt" that I may understand that Raiden may not be able to, just yet. Even if he was decreed an Elder God himself at some point along the lines.

So, I think this particular problem is rooted in no - one understanding the extent of the Elder Gods rule over the realms.




I see your point here. My only question would then be: When have they ever given aid to anyone?

Starts to look like they have more control over things than they are letting on, or they're preoccupied in some way.



You mean the cause of Raidens taint? That's agreeable then, even though there was a strong inference it was "a taint", we know Shang, Quan, and Raidens souls intertwined at one point while in the ether, and we know he didn't perform as he should have come his reconstitution after a sacrifice.

We basically don't know exactly where a "taint" came from, or the exactly effects of whether Quan and Shangs souls intertwining with Raidens, had anything to do with tainting him.

Reasonable doubt is reasonable doubt though, I suppose.



Even though that's true of his Mk1 ending, it doesn't really pertain to what I'm saying. I'm saying that he is trying to prove that he presents himself as the force to be reckoned with when it comes to Earths protection. Which is a commonality between both Mk1 and post MkDa Raidens.

You know like, "He's still the guy you're gonna have to ultimately face before ever having a shot at getting Earth". And he's more than an adequate obstacle to overcome. Over - more with the reanimated corpse now..

It's just that since MkD, he's even more proactive about that fact....still the same guy though. More the same as Mk1 Raiden now, because he lacks that "mentor" persona once more.



How do you think so?

He wouldn't be a tool for sacrificial purposes like Blaze. And the only other logical reasoning here....is back to "Mentor" and teaching his Earth realm representatives some kind of lesson...

Having him be a boss character is also without merit in this particular example. "Without having the evil label", validates my point about it not making any sense.



Yes, I'm sure..Check it out, from Raidens MkA bio:

I laid the corpse of Liu Kang on a ceremonial altar and bound it with the shackles. Reciting the unholy enchantments, I brought to life the body of my former ally and infused it with a thunderclap of lightning. The corpse of Liu Kang would be no mere zombie; it would serve as my ultimate enforcer. Satisfied, I then set free this abomination to wreak havoc on those who have done harm to Earthrealm.

It's not so random man, and is quite a specific//selective purpose indeed.



Again, I don't see a purpose for more of a force than he and the corpse. The job he's doing doesn't require a squad or team, nor does it let on that he wants any kind of "ultimate power" to protect Earthrealm(although I don't doubt ruthless behavior can grow into greater suspicion and paranoia.).

In fact, his actions seem quite discrete to all besides Shinnok.

Check it out again, from Raidens MkA bio:

Though I tried to conceal my activities, my use of the dark energies did not go unnoticed. Shinnok appeared before me and proposed an alliance. He would help secure the protection of Earthrealm in return for my aid in some undisclosed plot. I am no fool. I know well the treachery of this former Elder God. I accepted his offer and will complete this task, but only to discover his true objective. Until then, I will use Shinnok to serve my own ends.



You know though, we don't even have that proof because again, it's not in any cannon material I recall that the Elder Gods ever have actually intervened.

Although Raiden doesn't trust anyone anymore, he could be wrong according to what the Elder Gods foresee//predict happening to the realms amidst all this "danger".

Which again, by my understanding of a superior-to-subordinate type of situation, could put Raiden at a great risk of being in violation of "God conduct".



Up until MkD, I always thought that force, for Raiden was the Earth warriors, and the Elemental Gods....

To add to that, nobody from Earthrealm is "failing" either(not even Shujinko failed "technically", if you think about it) . They just keep getting violated as a Realm and Raiden is in the correct state of mind to deal with it head on this time around. Even if it means he may face consequences for his "Un-Holy//Un-Godlike" actions.

Liu Kang- Don't come back. I'd rather he stays dead. If he must return though, have him side with Raiden.

Johnny Cage- Gone. Probably won't die, but I think he's (over)due for retirement. And if he's to come back anyway....I have no idea what can be done with him.

Sonya Blade- I'd rather she retired, but I'll accept it if she returned. Less interested in her Sektor feud...more intrigued by a feud with Jax and possibility of developing Kira into the anti-Sonya.

Kano- Fucking die already!

Raiden- Build him up for eventual main antagonist role. Divide heroes up between who agrees with him and who doesn't. Could lead to interesting and unexpected alliances.

Sub-Zero- Honestly not all that interested in his feud with Noob Saibot (would rather see Sareena take center stage of that situation). I think Subz is due for main event stories. If he's to have a secondary feud, I'd prefer it be with Sektor.

Scorpion- Leave his clan/family dead. End feud with Quan Chi. Stop having him want revenge on everything. And crucial: have him GROW THE FUCK UP!
Noob Saibot- Don't revert him back to being Sub-Zero or even a fusion of them. Awful. If he comes back, run with his ruling the Netherealm. He'll probably take up most of Sub-Zero's attention, but I'd personally rather see Sareena deal with him. If not her, then Scorpion.

Goro- Kill him off and leave him dead this time. Bringing him back in Deception was a mistake and tainted his character. Have Kung Lao finish him off and let that be the end of it. If one of the existing Shokan characters is to carry on, run with Kintaro.

Shang Tsung- Being one of the defining villains of this generation, he should therefore go with this generation. If he's to come back, I'd like to see him more-or-less on the run from everyone. Enemies on all sides and doing whatever he can to survive. Personally, I would rather see Shao Kahn in this role (if one or the other were to return), but it could work for Shang Tsung as well.

I believe it's high time that we start the MK2 discussion, so to bridge the gap, let's begin with Reptile.

Oh yeah. Forgot about Reptile. He really should've been in the MK1 discussion like Shang Tsung and Goro were, but no matter.

I'd say that Reptile's chances of returning are not so much in his favor. I'd rather just see him live and not come back, having somewhat of a happy ending with Khameleon (in more ways than one). That's about it.

If he does return, I'm not sure what they could or should do with him storywise.

Gameplay-wise, he needs to be fast and sneaky. I think Crab was a good fit for him, and it sucked that he didn't have it in MKA.

In terms of his special moves, I'd like to see ones like the Super Krawl and Forceball to return, maybe even Acid Spray.

Overall, I kind of like Reptile, but I feel he's better off not returning.

SHANG TSUNG... Lets face it.. this guy has been defeated more times than any bad guy should be able to handle.. in MK2 he had his powers fully returned... if he makes it to MK8 he should be close to losing them all.. It would be visually interesting to have him return in his Demonic Form, atleast as an alternate.. Story wise this could take him back in an interesting direction.

I want his MK2 Soul Sucking fatality!!!! ANYWAYS- REPTILE- Im sorry, but I think Reptile is worn out.. If they do have some one from his Race in the game I think it should be Khameleon. Im tired of Reptile being some one elses bitch. Thats all he ever is in any game... I really dont think it will be likely that Reptile returns. However if he does.. Please dont make him look like a lizard. If you are gunna do a reptilian head make it look more scary or Dinosaurish like MK2. I dunno. Maybe a move that involves his sticky tongue?? Expand Reptiles Potential!! Over All i think his chances of returning are slim to nil

I can see Reptile returning. He'll of course be the bumbling henchman he's always been, but he fits the role nicely. Out of the three recurring henchman, I see him returning over Baraka or Kano. Many people believe that he's going to turn on Shao Kahn and run off with Khameleon, but I just don't see that happening. It seems to me that Khameleon already tried to convince Reptile to turn against Shao Kahn, and Reptile, being the idiot that he is, decided to attack her instead. I don't see Khameleon getting a happy ending. Here is everyone Reptile can interact with.

Shao Kahn - I can fully see Reptile serving Shao Kahn again. It's possible that he'll learn Shao Kahn never died and things will go back to the way they were.

New Villain - Alternatively, if Shao doesn't return and Reptile does, he can just serve under the new threat...unless it's Raiden or Noob. I just can't see that.

Shinnok/Quan Chi/Shang Tsung - All possible rivalries. They all betrayed Reptile (Quan Chi kinda did twice) so I could see Reptile fighting with them...especially if all of the former bosses continue their alliance and Reptile has to work with them.

Khameleon - Still a possibility. Khameleon's has a good amount of popularity so if she does come back, she should continue trying to reform Reptile. Still Khameleon needs interaction with characters other than Reptile and Kahn to be an efficient character. More on her when it's her turn.

Nitara - I'd like to see some sort of interaction between the two if they both return. Reptile would probably attack her, but Nitara's smart and could probably find a way to persuade him into helping her stop Ashrah.

Chameleon - Highly unlikely, but on the slim, slim chance Chameleon returns, he needs to interact...with someone. And since he seems like a Saurian, Reptile seems the most likely. However I'm sure we'd all rather see Khameleon back than Chameleon.

Others include Cyrax and maybe other henchmen of Kahn like Mileena or Goro. Infact, I'd like to see a bit of interaction (not a lot) between Mileena and Reptile, especially because I don't see Baraka returning.

Umm that's about it. Reptile has been the same as he's always been, but he fits his role better than any other character. Which is why I hope he returns...especially if Kahn is involved.