Why cant Raiden and/or the Elder gods just resurrect Reptiles race?
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Why cant Raiden and/or the Elder gods just resurrect Reptiles race?
One thing Shao Kahn and Shinnok in MK4 did was promise Reptile they'd resurrect his extinct race. So I wondered, why couldn't Raiden and/or the elder gods do the same, with the added difference that they might actually keep their promise, the key word being might, as Scorpion did get screwed in MKA. Whether they would do it or not, such an offer could win them a new ally, even if only temporarily.
I also wonder why Reptile doesn't think of joining the heroes. What makes Shao Kahn in particular more capable of resurrecting Reptile's race than the elder gods? Does he (Reptile) just believe that they would just flat out refuse anyway, so he sides with the one who said he'd grant his wish at some point? Maybe Shao Kahn told him the elder gods would refuse. Hell, he might have even told him the elder gods were the ones who wiped out his species. That could make a good explaination as to why Reptile sticks with the villains.
Of course, the explaination behind everything I mentioned likely has to do with NRS not being interested in developing Reptile's character in any way, nor do they care about treating him like a chump, and I get the feeling they don't want a "freak" like him among the heroes. Name me a good "freak" after all. Goro went back to being a villain (and a lackey) in MKD, Sheeva's rebellion against Shao Kahn was undone in the new timeline (thus leaving her...a lackey), and Khameleon is overwhelmingly underused plus she doesn't look at all reptilian (yet). There's also Nitara, but like Khameleon, she's underused, though other than the wings, she looks human, which does many aliens in the MK universe a favor. Just look at Kitana and Raiden, for instance.
But I'm talking about an in-universe explaination. That Reptile isn't smart enough to join the heroes wouldn't be surprising, given how NRS portrays him, but why wouldn't Raiden and the elder gods jump at the opportunity to recruit an additional warrior?
I also wonder why Reptile doesn't think of joining the heroes. What makes Shao Kahn in particular more capable of resurrecting Reptile's race than the elder gods? Does he (Reptile) just believe that they would just flat out refuse anyway, so he sides with the one who said he'd grant his wish at some point? Maybe Shao Kahn told him the elder gods would refuse. Hell, he might have even told him the elder gods were the ones who wiped out his species. That could make a good explaination as to why Reptile sticks with the villains.
Of course, the explaination behind everything I mentioned likely has to do with NRS not being interested in developing Reptile's character in any way, nor do they care about treating him like a chump, and I get the feeling they don't want a "freak" like him among the heroes. Name me a good "freak" after all. Goro went back to being a villain (and a lackey) in MKD, Sheeva's rebellion against Shao Kahn was undone in the new timeline (thus leaving her...a lackey), and Khameleon is overwhelmingly underused plus she doesn't look at all reptilian (yet). There's also Nitara, but like Khameleon, she's underused, though other than the wings, she looks human, which does many aliens in the MK universe a favor. Just look at Kitana and Raiden, for instance.
But I'm talking about an in-universe explaination. That Reptile isn't smart enough to join the heroes wouldn't be surprising, given how NRS portrays him, but why wouldn't Raiden and the elder gods jump at the opportunity to recruit an additional warrior?

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That could draw more interest to Reptile and the Saurians. I'd love if they started to do that but after all these years, i think Zaterra, the vampire realm, other species and races are only meant to reflect a character's background.
That could draw more interest to Reptile and the Saurians. I'd love if they started to do that but after all these years, i think Zaterra, the vampire realm, other species and races are only meant to reflect a character's background.
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I'm not sure about Raiden, but as for the Elder Gods, they really only care about their own preservation.


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Why would they? What's Reptile done to deserve it? What's his race done to deserve being brought back? Death, even extinction, is part of nature, it happens.
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The gods are not supposed to interfere with destiny. They're not allowed to do stuff like that.
...of course, they only choose to break the rules when there's something in it for them (Scorpion getting rid of the One Being's potential comeback being what he brought to the table). Reptile has nothing to offer them.
Raiden tried interfering with man's destiny in MK2011...and you saw the results of that. I'm sure it would just be magnified if the Elder Gods did it themselves.
Reptile doesn't go with the heroes because he is 100% loyal to Shao Kahn. He is literally like a dog at his beckoned call. Kahn has ambition...he wants more and more power. The Elder Gods can't do anything for Reptile because of their rules, but if Reptile helps Kahn attain higher and higher power, there's a reward at the end. Kahn refuses to be bound to the rules that the Elder Gods are. He doesn't want to risk losing his prize anyway.
This is fan conjecture on my part: Reptile sticks around because he'd rather have some community than no community at all.
...of course, they only choose to break the rules when there's something in it for them (Scorpion getting rid of the One Being's potential comeback being what he brought to the table). Reptile has nothing to offer them.
Raiden tried interfering with man's destiny in MK2011...and you saw the results of that. I'm sure it would just be magnified if the Elder Gods did it themselves.
Reptile doesn't go with the heroes because he is 100% loyal to Shao Kahn. He is literally like a dog at his beckoned call. Kahn has ambition...he wants more and more power. The Elder Gods can't do anything for Reptile because of their rules, but if Reptile helps Kahn attain higher and higher power, there's a reward at the end. Kahn refuses to be bound to the rules that the Elder Gods are. He doesn't want to risk losing his prize anyway.
This is fan conjecture on my part: Reptile sticks around because he'd rather have some community than no community at all.


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Also, Reptile eats people. He's kinda evil and racist against mammals. I imagine that might be a bit of a hindrance to getting along with the gang if he ever tried to join Team Raiden.
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Yeah, basically because Reptile is evil, and evil shouldn't be rewarded. Reptile would need to breed with Khameleon in order to recreate his race, not have it resurrected, giving him control over his own destiny.
Shao Kahn was himself the destroyer of Reptile's world, and it would take some pretty powerful mojo from the Elder Gods to undo that (if they could/would)
Shao Kahn was himself the destroyer of Reptile's world, and it would take some pretty powerful mojo from the Elder Gods to undo that (if they could/would)
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Yeah, basically because Reptile is evil, and evil shouldn't be rewarded. Reptile would need to breed with Khameleon in order to recreate his race, not have it resurrected, giving him control over his own destiny.
Shao Kahn was himself the destroyer of Reptile's world, and it would take some pretty powerful mojo from the Elder Gods to undo that (if they could/would)
Yeah, basically because Reptile is evil, and evil shouldn't be rewarded. Reptile would need to breed with Khameleon in order to recreate his race, not have it resurrected, giving him control over his own destiny.
Shao Kahn was himself the destroyer of Reptile's world, and it would take some pretty powerful mojo from the Elder Gods to undo that (if they could/would)
Shao Kahn didnt destroy Reptiles race.


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Yes he did. Kahn conquered Zaterra and merged it with Outworld, then he and Shang used the Raptors as slaves and worked them to death.


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While Reptile's motives are noble, he is still evil. The elder gods wouldn't help Reptile because he doesn't deserve their help.


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1.) Raiden wouldn't have jurisdiction. Any God not from that realm wouldn't have the "rite" to. Same way Raiden is inhibited/weaker outside of EarthRealm.
2.) The Elder Gods just wouldn't do it. They're more concerned with balance in the whole MK-verse.
2.) The Elder Gods just wouldn't do it. They're more concerned with balance in the whole MK-verse.
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When i said Shao Kahn destroyed Reptile's world, i meant when he merged it with outworld it lost its seperate identity, god some people are picky about details!!
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PickleMendip Wrote:
When i said Shao Kahn destroyed Reptile's world, i meant when he merged it with outworld it lost its seperate identity, god some people are picky about details!!
im actually not picky with details, i read the thing wronge and ill admit it.
When i said Shao Kahn destroyed Reptile's world, i meant when he merged it with outworld it lost its seperate identity, god some people are picky about details!!
im actually not picky with details, i read the thing wronge and ill admit it.


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Because Reptile (Old Timeline & New Timeline) has tried to kill the members of Team Raiden ever since he introduced, so do to that Raiden & the other Elder Gods wouldn't help Reptile in resurrecting his home world of Zaterra & his raptor race. Plus if they did they probably would screw him over like they did when they resurrected the Shirai Ryu, Scorpion's clan in MKA.
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