why is Mortal Kombat better than Street fighter
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posted02/03/2008 08:49 PM (UTC)by
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This is not a Versus Thread, because there is no contest between the two.

But lets here some of you Hard core Mortal Kombat fan’s opinions on why Mortal Kombat is better then Street fighter
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10/11/2007 08:00 PM (UTC)
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its plain and simple... the blood and fatalites...... nuff said...
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10/11/2007 08:19 PM (UTC)
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You can not say that MK is "better" than SF.
They are two diferent franchises that have some similarities (mostly because MK is loosely based on SF), and i just qualify both as 'diferent' when facing each other.

SF:
Story - Human fighters that master martial arts face each other in fighting tournaments (or found alliances to take down a threat, like in SF2 storyline), using some supernatural techniques, and lots of hard fighting techinques.

Videogame - 2D fighting games, using sprites as base, in a somewhat anime style of characters and backgrounds.

media (movies/series) - mostly anime, sticking close to the game's story: humans fighting in martial arts tournaments, or something like it.

MK:
story - difererent worlds enter in a war, decided by a fighting tournament, with looots of supernatural, demonic, divine abilities or techinques, and real life fighting techniques also. Not just humans fight in MK, actually, most of the fighters are from other worlds, or are supernatural entities.

videogame - beat'm up, adventure game, puzzle game, racing game, platform game...

media (movies/series): mostly live action, stick to game story, and has no connection to anime style. Pretty much american styled.

i guess that's all i can point right now to difference those two legens of the video gaming world.
I wouldn't choose one as the greatest, or better, but the two of them are excelent and diferent.

Simply, Diferent.
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10/11/2007 09:12 PM (UTC)
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I was gonna write a bitch long post...but Night CROW did it for me and got it right on the button.

I honestly dont know which franchise I like best....but I only like the Anime films and the 2d versions of street fighter...and I like all MORTAL KOMBATS appart from Armaggeddon, and both films ( allthough both films are theoreticly shite.)
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10/11/2007 09:40 PM (UTC)
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it's a matter of opinion. I personally like MK's story and visual look better.
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10/11/2007 10:46 PM (UTC)
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Actually, you CAN compare MK and SF because they're both in the same genre-fighting games...

Anyway, to answer this topic. MK is better because of storyline, longevity, characters, darkness, more seriousness, gore, fatalities like no other game that are unique and badass.

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10/12/2007 02:49 AM (UTC)
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Mk has more stuff to it.
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10/12/2007 06:34 PM (UTC)
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Street Fighter is older: for some patriarchal reason, I always respect the older designs, techniques and styles, in arts, architecture, video-games, whatever; that is, I never consider them prediluvial, dated and unworthy of memory, there was a period when those things were actually most admired. I haven't played SF as much as I did MK but I know it had some unique charm and likeability, not in fatalities and gore, but in that childishly unforgettable sense of joy: e.g. Dalshim was the first sorcerer I saw in a fighting game, I only learned of Shang Tsung much later; then, many boys of my age idolized Ruy and Ken for their fireballs and hellicopter kick; then, Blanca, the ape-like monster with whom you could be cheap as hell, using his electrocution move... and many other things which make me remember SF to this day, even though I haven't played it for many years.

Personally, I like MK more... which doesn't mean I underestimate SF. I guess MK simply suits my current stage of maturity a little more.

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10/16/2007 05:48 AM (UTC)
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1. Looks: I don't wanna play a "cartoon" fighting game. Mk is a more "mature" game to me. I'm more detatched from cartoons than I am "real people//characters".

2. Gameplay: Mk has a better mixture of fantasy and reality.

3. Story: The story was//still is more interesting to me...even with all the colossal fuck ups.

there's more, but I'm done for now.
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11/16/2007 10:22 PM (UTC)
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I fail to see how blood, gore, and supposedly more realistic looking Characters make a game more mature or for that matter better then an other. And since when is it cartoony to have animated sprites over digitized or 3D ones. MK relys on the same cartoony gimmicks as SF or any other game dose. One Example being Bo Rai Cho's fatalitys and special moves. And in terms of Longevity and Character design, i definitely do not believe MK is any better then SF or KOF or any other fighter.
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11/17/2007 09:38 PM (UTC)
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WaveMotionFist9 Posted: 11/16/2007 05:22 PM

“I fail to see how blood, gore, and supposedly more realistic looking Characters make a game more mature or for that matter better then an other. And since when is it cartoony to have animated sprites over digitized or 3D ones. MK relys on the same cartoony gimmicks as SF or any other game dose. One Example being Bo Rai Cho's fatalitys and special moves. And in terms of Longevity and Character design, i definitely do not believe MK is any better then SF or KOF or any other fighter.”

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Dude that’s harsh. If you don’t think Mortal Kombat is all that great then why even have a MK online account. I was under the impression that this was a place for real Mortal Kombat fans. And as for cartoony gimmicks. Shore Mortal Kombat has them, It’s a since of humor! However when it comes to comparing Master Bo Rai Cho’s Puke Puddle to anything that Dhalsim does, Scorpion to E. Honda, or Shao Kahn to M Bison and question who of these pare ups is more “Cartoony” In character. Street fighter would take the cake every time. The fact is Mortal Kombat has a dark since of humor witch will always make it seem less like a Kid cartoon and Street fighter has a light and palatable since of humor witch panders to the Child since of humor that is so prevalent in cartoons.

Farther more Look at Mortal Kombat 3 in the arcade and tell me that Digitized actors look cartoony. MK 3 was a huge step forward for the art of digitizing actors. Its Cartoony to have animated sprites because. . .They are cartoons! They are animated drawings. . .witch it what a cartoon is. Digitized actors are pictures of real people. I can walk up to Keri Hoskins and ask “didn’t you play sonya in MK3” and she would say yes. You cant walk up to any one and ask “didn’t you play Balaka in Street Fighter 2” (I’m excluding the SF: The Movie game on this one)

As I have said, mortal Kombat has a goofy since of humor, however it always involves killing some one, destroying the body, or disgracing a fellow opponent witch are most assuredly adult themes. Our kids are not taught to laugh at those who they beat.

Finally, Its hard to say witch characters have more longevity, only time will tell. However, In the Gamefaqs.com character battles. The people who voted kept Scorpion in the tournament longer then Ryu.


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11/17/2007 10:58 PM (UTC)
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Corndog125nalald Wrote:
WaveMotionFist9 Posted: 11/16/2007 05:22 PM

“I fail to see how blood, gore, and supposedly more realistic looking Characters make a game more mature or for that matter better then an other. And since when is it cartoony to have animated sprites over digitized or 3D ones. MK relys on the same cartoony gimmicks as SF or any other game dose. One Example being Bo Rai Cho's fatalitys and special moves. And in terms of Longevity and Character design, i definitely do not believe MK is any better then SF or KOF or any other fighter.”

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Dude that’s harsh. If you don’t think Mortal Kombat is all that great then why even have a MK online account. I was under the impression that this was a place for real Mortal Kombat fans. And as for cartoony gimmicks. Shore Mortal Kombat has them, It’s a since of humor! However when it comes to comparing Master Bo Rai Cho’s Puke Puddle to anything that Dhalsim does, Scorpion to E. Honda, or Shao Kahn to M Bison and question who of these pare ups is more “Cartoony” In character. Street fighter would take the cake every time. The fact is Mortal Kombat has a dark since of humor witch will always make it seem less like a Kid cartoon and Street fighter has a light and palatable since of humor witch panders to the Child since of humor that is so prevalent in cartoons.

Farther more Look at Mortal Kombat 3 in the arcade and tell me that Digitized actors look cartoony. MK 3 was a huge step forward for the art of digitizing actors. Its Cartoony to have animated sprites because. . .They are cartoons! They are animated drawings. . .witch it what a cartoon is. Digitized actors are pictures of real people. I can walk up to Keri Hoskins and ask “didn’t you play sonya in MK3” and she would say yes. You cant walk up to any one and ask “didn’t you play Balaka in Street Fighter 2” (I’m excluding the SF: The Movie game on this one)

As I have said, mortal Kombat has a goofy since of humor, however it always involves killing some one, destroying the body, or disgracing a fellow opponent witch are most assuredly adult themes. Our kids are not taught to laugh at those who they beat.

Finally, Its hard to say witch characters have more longevity, only time will tell. However, In the Gamefaqs.com character battles. The people who voted kept Scorpion in the tournament longer then Ryu.




Dude, your taking what i said way to seriously.wink I dont recall ever saying that i dont think MK is all that great, I believe that was you puting words in my mouth and again taking what i said too seriously. I do infact prefer MK
over SF so please dont give me that trite your not real fan speech because if so i would not have spent almost 600 dollars on MK games and merchandise.wink Im not some humor nazi either. Personally i like humor in all games because i hate it when some get consumed in some big dramatic story. I never said SF was without its Gimmicks. I was pointing out that to hold a game like MK to a higher standerd because of blood dosnt make much sense when there are many other factors that can make a game better then the other still on the table. And regarding the fact that Animated sprites are as you say cartoons dosnt make a whole lot of sense either. Compare SpongeBob to Akira or Elfen lied. Both are animated but one is a cartoon and the others are anime. There is a differance between cartoons and the anime style of SF sprites. When it gets down to it MK and SF rely on the same humor that as you said is so very prevelent in cartoons.




btw I dont want kids playing MK if thats what you think . Again i never said that MK wasnt mature. But if it is indeed more mature to play MK that dosnt mean that its less mature to play SF which is the point i was try to make accross not that i think MK is less or to equal the maturity level of the little kids who may play. Again im talking about me as an adult.wink Sorry if you thought what i typed earlier was too hard. You have the right to call me on somthing you thought was too harsh Being that its your thread. I apologize if i Offended or breed any discontent.
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11/18/2007 01:52 AM (UTC)
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WaveMotionFist9 Posted: 11/17/2007 10:58 PM “Dude, your taking what i said way to seriously. (then a bunch of good stuff that i dont what to take up a bunch of space so just read the post right above this one) breed any discontent. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The phrase “ supposedly more realistic looking Characters” comes off as Anti-Kombat in you post. By no means did I intend to put words in your mouth. For that I apologies. However I must disagree with you on the difference between terms. Cartoon is defined in the dictionary as “a motion picture that is made from a series of drawings, computer graphics, or photographs of inanimate objects (as puppets) and that simulates movement by slight progressive changes in each frame” Witch covers both Spunge Bob and Anime type of animation. As far as “Cartoony” it is defined as “a ludicrously simplistic, unrealistic, or one-dimensional portrayal or version” and to put Mortal Kombat into the category of Ludicrously Simplistic or One-Dimensional portrayal of characters just does not settle well with me. Fuerthermore in SF's Worning at the begining of the game it calls it "Cartoon-like violence" and MK's worning refers to it as "Intence Violence: I’m not quite shure what point that makes however. That is just what I thought you meant. I figured this Thread would piss some people off, and I love a bunch of complaining and griping about what other people said, I just what to hear some people back it up to.You said “I do in fact prefer MK over SF” And the point of this thread is for you to say Why. You also said “I was pointing out that to hold a game like MK to a higher standard because of blood doesn’t make much sense when there are many other factors that can make a game better then the other still on the table” witch is a great point! But as I have said, the point of this thread is to point out those factors.
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11/18/2007 02:35 AM (UTC)
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reppy Posted: 11/17/2007 09:06 PM
Hm?

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Yeah, if Street fighter was that intense I would like it more. . .but it is not
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11/18/2007 04:03 AM (UTC)
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SNORT! GUFFAW!! LOL!
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11/18/2007 04:18 AM (UTC)
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Corndog125nalald Wrote:
WaveMotionFist9 Posted: 11/17/2007 10:58 PM
“Dude, your taking what i said way to seriously. (then a bunch of good stuff that i dont what to take up a bunch of space so just read the post right above this one) breed any discontent.
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The phrase “ supposedly more realistic looking Characters” comes off as Anti-Kombat in you post. By no means did I intend to put words in your mouth. For that I apologies.


However I must disagree with you on the difference between terms. Cartoon is defined in the dictionary as “a motion picture that is made from a series of drawings, computer graphics, or photographs of inanimate objects (as puppets) and that simulates movement by slight progressive changes in each frame” Witch covers both Spunge Bob and Anime type of animation. As far as “Cartoony” it is defined as “a ludicrously simplistic, unrealistic, or one-dimensional portrayal or version” and to put Mortal Kombat into the category of Ludicrously Simplistic or One-Dimensional portrayal of characters just does not settle well with me. Fuerthermore in SF's Worning at the begining of the game it calls it "Cartoon-like violence" and MK's worning refers to it as "Intence Violence: I’m not quite shure what point that makes however. That is just what I thought you meant.

I figured this Thread would piss some people off, and I love a bunch of complaining and griping about what other people said, I just what to hear some people back it up to.You said “I do in fact prefer MK over SF” And the point of this thread is for you to say Why. You also said “I was pointing out that to hold a game like MK to a higher standard because of blood doesn’t make much sense when there are many other factors that can make a game better then the other still on the table” witch is a great point! But as I have said, the point of this thread is to point out those factors.


I hope you dont think i was pissed off or griping because i was actually having alot of fun, so sorry if I came off as Anti-Kombat but its just the way i write. The reason i posted was really that I wanted to defend SF for this is an MK website so theres bound to be a far lean towards it or maybe even a bias. I just wanted to bring an argument that would level the playing field because i believe both are great games and i really didnt want to voice my preference because at the end of the day its opinon and nothing more. While i still dont agree with on how cartoony MK is I realize that it is just my opinion. Again i didnt want say which one is better i just felt it necessary to level the field. I would have done the same thing for MK if someone said that MK's story sucks and that SF's story is as deep as The Godfather. And sorry if i was supposed to only post how MK is better then SF. If i post again ill make sure its on how MK's story is much, much better then SF's.smile
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02/03/2008 05:43 AM (UTC)
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i have to agree with com.sf is more cartoony then mortal kombat.i have the whole collection of teh famous two games.i gotm to tell u i played them both the story for mk sitcks with the whole series from liu kangs mk champion defender of earthrealm from m.bison the crazy man with supernatual poweras and ruller of earth.from shinnom taking the nertherealm from the devil!form rayden and shinnok and shao khan being fathers and brothers.form shang tsung stealing ur soul.from oni eati8ng ur bare fleshed .dang man im just getting started.from ken saying u dotn want to mess with me.heck i bang his butt with my fist!from shao kahn saying don`t make me laugh!!!! come on now! MORTAL KOMBAT RESULTS
story:so dang good
combatants:so great
graphics:more adult like
everything:good so great
STREETFIGHTER RESULTS
story:i cant play this game without ever sf story change so deeply that the sf get 2 out of 5
combatants;like come one i can draw these characters with my toes!1 out of 5!
graphics:im an adult now i want to play a mature graphical game not soem child graphics comic book turned into cartoon 0 out of 5
everything else is a 1.5 out of 5
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02/03/2008 05:47 AM (UTC)
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come on!from liu kang defender of earth.rayden is fight is father and brother.shinnokm takes control of nertheralm.streetfight got nothing except for sagat balrog vega and m.bison the only pepole tough on there!balrog could so these damn fast boxing moves i couldnt get out of teh damn way.his ass gotten a 4.5 out of a 5
everything esle:1.5 out of 5
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everything esle:10-10 lmaosmile
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02/03/2008 08:49 PM (UTC)
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I fail to see how blood, gore, and supposedly more realistic looking Characters make a game more mature or for that matter better then an other.


1. Well, as far as maturity goes, it's just my opinion really. I'd let my kids play SF before I'd let them play MK. Blood and Gore are mature attributes to have to deal with as pure entertainment in a video game. Like a Michael Myers//Freddy Kruger//Jason horror flick that I can play.

Mature, in this game to me equals that there is an abundance of violent action//consequences that I can control. To be able to adequately appreciate that kind of control and visual display, you'd have to understand the difference between real and fake, right and wrong....and be able to ascertain that "this is for entertainment purposes only".

I've seen the difference in-if the degree of understanding, in the mentality of the person is not correctly balanced, that they will fear some of the things that happen in MK for actually being possible. Either that, or they will mistake some of the actions as ones they could actually perform. This is the immature, and incorrect reaction for someone who may or may not know any better.

Furthermore, I'm saying you're less likely to witness that same reaction from the same person, if the mentality is in the same place, and we were playing SF.

2. There is a greater emotional attachment to be received from any given character on the roster of a MK game too. Because as we all know, story elements play a huge roll in what sells the games. Even in our latest MK games, you have a deeper reason to care about the(now) completely fake characters on the screen. It's not just because you like the character you choose, it's that you like the character because he/she reflects you in your own mind in some distorted manner.

Not saying that this is absent from SF, because it is there. Just saying that this attribute is more elaborate, and more obvious in MK. You have to be able to interpret what is happening to your character to a deeper degree than you do with SF. You know more about your characters in MK.

Also, to a mature individual, this is attribute only equals simple entertainment. To an immature, and even add "naive" individual, they may believe that they actually are, or can become the character they see themselves like on the screen.

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So, if through story your character feels real, and if through graphical appearance they look real, AND atop that you are essentially killing another "person", where do you draw the line?

The answer is: At the discretion of the maturity level of the player.

Mortal Kombat demands a higher level of maturity than Street Fighter....to me. Because like I said in the beginning of this whole shpeel, it's essentially just my opinion.

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And since when is it cartoony to have animated sprites over digitized or 3D ones. MK relys on the same cartoony gimmicks as SF or any other game dose. One Example being Bo Rai Cho's fatalitys and special moves.


I'd say, it's drawing vs using actual people to act out the moves. There are more visual and emotional attachments achieved through doing it this way.

It's more engaging...less a detachment from reality...It blurs the line more efficiently to have the real people there.

Childish, even frivolous humor such as Bo Rai Cho simply serves as a reminder that "this is fake". Something I think was permitted more than just the frivolousness of it. I think it was a clear message, and reaction to the stories of kids doing immature, naive things and harming themselves.

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And in terms of Longevity and Character design, i definitely do not believe MK is any better then SF or KOF or any other fighter.


Well, it's been some 15+years now. There's no disputing longevity. Then, reinvention of a characters costumes and story components keep them around...so there's no disputing character design either.....

I mean, look at the MKA roster again. We have 10 ninjas on the top row. lol That's some of the most repetitive nonsense I've ever seen. But you change their appearance a little bit, and we get to see them for another 5 games. haha..

But besides that, people still bitch and moan if even one of the original, MK1 roster is absent of the latest game.

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