Anyone else agree that Subby seems slow in the demo?
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Anyone else agree that Subby seems slow in the demo?
03/27/2011 05:22 PM EDT
I've played through the demo a few times with all four characters, and I must say that I'm the worst with Subby. It may just be me, but his moves/specials feel slow compared to the others and I don't seem to land as many big juggle combos with him either. Anyone else feel the same?
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03/27/2011 05:23 PM EDT
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03/27/2011 05:24 PM EDT
He's a more powerful character this time around which is balanced out with making him slower than, say, Scorpion who isn't as powerful, but relies more on speed.
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03/27/2011 05:25 PM EDT
Sub-Zero is fine, nothing wrong with him.

If anything he's a fucking powerhouse.


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03/27/2011 05:27 PM EDT
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
He's a more powerful character this time around which is balanced out with making him slower than, say, Scorpion who isn't as powerful, but relies more on speed.


Agreed, good point. I guess it just depends on personal preference. I prefer quick, even if its less powerful.

My comments to the other guy who posted.... My bad man.... I don't get to check this site as often as I would like to, so I didn't know this topic has been discussed at length. I didn't see any posts about it on the first three pages, so get over it.
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03/27/2011 05:30 PM EDT
yeah hes not a quick stealthy ninja, desptie his apperance. He a chinese warrior. He uses freeze abilites it makes sense that he is a slower powerhouse type character. once you get his cold touch juggeling figured out, his combos feel faster IMO. Sure hes no johhny cage but I dont feel hes def not the zangeif of mk, hes a power house but not a huge slow guy.

ALSO i was watchin the gameplay trailer. did they take out the icy counter its just the ice clone now?
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03/27/2011 05:32 PM EDT
In all fairness i see where your comming from. Sub was faster than scorp in DCU.
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03/27/2011 05:36 PM EDT
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In all fairness i see where your comming from. Sub was faster than scorp in DCU.


I wouldn't know that because I didn't play DCU. I'm happy to be back on this site, as I haven't really been keeping up with it since Deception! I was turned off with DCU because I'm personally not a fan of combining franchises for fighting games, so I never played it. So far, I'm loving the new direction of MK. Reminds me of when I first played the original MK when I was in middle school. Man, this franchise has been around for a long time!
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03/27/2011 05:42 PM EDT
Yes, but slow isnt a bad thing.

They just mixed things up gameplay-wise.
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03/27/2011 05:44 PM EDT
Yeah this game is giving everyone a nostelgia bonner.
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03/27/2011 05:46 PM EDT
He is defensive in this game. Sub should always be defensive and slow. When i think ice i think slow. when i think fire i think fast.
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03/27/2011 08:27 PM EDT
I'm sorry but I don't agree with most of the comments here. Slow and defensive? That's not the subby I grew up with at all. The MK3 subby was a BEAST, both fast and agile. This subby is a walking tank...
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03/27/2011 08:28 PM EDT
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I'm sorry but I don't agree with most of the comments here. Slow and defensive? That's not the subby I grew up with at all. The MK3 subby was a BEAST, both fast and agile. This subby is a walking tank...


but remember in mk3 everybody was fast so..........yea
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03/27/2011 08:32 PM EDT
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DigitalAssassin Wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't agree with most of the comments here. Slow and defensive? That's not the subby I grew up with at all. The MK3 subby was a BEAST, both fast and agile. This subby is a walking tank...


but remember in mk3 everybody was fast so..........yea



good point man. idk there's just something off about him being so slow. IMO he should be as fast as scorpion.
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03/27/2011 08:34 PM EDT
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scienceguy14 Wrote:
DigitalAssassin Wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't agree with most of the comments here. Slow and defensive? That's not the subby I grew up with at all. The MK3 subby was a BEAST, both fast and agile. This subby is a walking tank...


but remember in mk3 everybody was fast so..........yea



good point man. idk there's just something off about him being so slow. IMO he should be as fast as scorpion.


he was kinda slow in deception too....to me it kind of fits him since he has to use ice to slow you down....and all the armor he has on...but idk its ok
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03/27/2011 08:35 PM EDT
The versatility of the Ice Clone coupled with Scorp's speed would be overkill imo. I mean, I think the dude can Ice Clone out of his wake up animation and that's incredible enough as it is.
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03/27/2011 08:35 PM EDT
Only played as him once,not a very big Sub fan. But yeah he is slow as hell.
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03/27/2011 08:36 PM EDT
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DigitalAssassin Wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't agree with most of the comments here. Slow and defensive? That's not the subby I grew up with at all. The MK3 subby was a BEAST, both fast and agile. This subby is a walking tank...


but remember in mk3 everybody was fast so..........yea


I'm sure if Bo Rai Cho was in UMK3 he could run a marathon without even breathing.


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03/27/2011 08:38 PM EDT
Im fast as LIGHTNING!!
Im faster then FYA!!

Im speedfreak im addicted to ICE!!! I dont think of ice as fast unless were talking about drugs. Same with an earthbased character (earthqaukes and stuff)
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03/27/2011 08:41 PM EDT
I love how he plays, slow he may be but when he hits it counts, i like his kick combo where he pulls out the sword and his slide attack can be pulled off quickly. Also I piss the hell out of the people I play against with Sub's Ice clone when they try to jump kick me and the enhanced version of the ground freeze. He's my favorite guy to play with in the Demo.
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03/27/2011 08:47 PM EDT
stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:
yeah hes not a quick stealthy ninja, desptie his apperance. He a chinese warrior. He uses freeze abilites it makes sense that he is a slower powerhouse type character. once you get his cold touch juggeling figured out, his combos feel faster IMO. Sure hes no johhny cage but I dont feel hes def not the zangeif of mk, hes a power house but not a huge slow guy.

ALSO i was watchin the gameplay trailer. did they take out the icy counter its just the ice clone now?


How do you pull of his cold touch juggling? that's the first i heard of that
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03/27/2011 08:48 PM EDT
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I love how he plays, slow he may be but when he hits it counts, i like his kick combo where he pulls out the sword and his slide attack can be pulled off quickly. Also I piss the hell out of the people I play against with Sub's Ice clone when they try to jump kick me and the enhanced version of the ground freeze. He's my favorite guy to play with in the Demo.


Indeed he's a beast.

My cousin only plays against me as Sub-Zero and everytime I have to literally be careful because he will get me with that damn ice clone or freeze me then give me the ice blade and that's alot of damage to take.


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03/27/2011 09:09 PM EDT
As great as Sub-Zero is in the game and I kick effin' ass with him, I hate how slow he has become ever since MKDA. He got like the most choppy and stiff fighting styles they could find.

In this game, he's nowhere as stiff as he was in MKDA-MKA, but he's still some sort of a slowpoke. At least his fighting style doesn't look as stiff anymore.
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03/27/2011 09:24 PM EDT
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As great as Sub-Zero is in the game and I kick effin' ass with him, I hate how slow he has became ever since MKDA. He got like the most choppy and stiff fighting styles they could find.

In this game, he's nowhere as stiff as he was in MKDA-MKA, but he's still some sort of a slowpoke. At least his fighting style doesn't look as stiff anymore.


Try and look at Sub-Zero as a character that you do not want to make any mistakes on, he's the trickiest one out of the whole lot in the demo and his combos vary in attacking you in high and low spots. Next time you play with him try predicting the other guy's moves and set up traps with his special moves because to me that's what Sub-Zero is all about, set up a trap for the unsuspecting moron and punish him or her vigorously, it's such a rewarding feeling man lol.
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03/27/2011 09:35 PM EDT
Don't misunderstand. I know how to use him, as I said, I kick ass with him. I just dislike how he's become a pale shadow of his former agile self.
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