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03/02/2003 11:38 AM (UTC)
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Indeed, its hard to read. :D
Who has some good tips for Drahmin?
edit: why is my picture not normale sized? de green man picture i mean (piccoro/piccolo)
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03/03/2003 02:49 PM (UTC)
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Versatile Wrote:
Bo Rai Cho number 2? Whatever dude. BRC is top tier, but I don't know about Number 2.

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do you play with him any? i thought the same thing UNTIL i started using him! he's tops, if only for his cHeApNeSs!!! but scorpy and his hellfire ChEeZe can still 'bring da whoopin' on his azz tho! grin
Peace out bro!
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03/03/2003 11:09 PM (UTC)
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Versatile Wrote:
Bo Rai Cho number 2? Whatever dude. BRC is top tier, but I don't know about Number 2.

Looks like you haven't played against a good Bo.
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03/04/2003 07:48 AM (UTC)
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MK_Legend Wrote:
antanca666 Wrote:

people like you are the reason why forums are lame. you should kill yourself.


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Well spoken, legend
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03/04/2003 02:49 PM (UTC)
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konqrr Wrote:
Versatile Wrote:
Bo Rai Cho number 2? Whatever dude. BRC is top tier, but I don't know about Number 2.Looks like you haven't played against a good Bo.

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yo konqrr...when are you gonna bust out with tha' bo rai' shiznit? we're all waitin' to glam some more movies! grin
Peace out bro!
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03/05/2003 04:03 PM (UTC)
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i don't like Bo's general appearance, so i don't use him, but i was forced to plas as him when i picked random select.
just from the one or two rounds i used him i could tell he kicks ass. he's just not my style.

i don't have any real insight at the moment, as i am hooked on movado, and i don't think i have anything to say that i haven't said already...

d+2, and d+4 are damn good in wing chung.
bbdash out of either one..
i mixed it up with a throw, and fuked dudes up easy like.

newest development in my circle that i wanted to mention altho it may be a little late...

we love the acid bath.

i didn't like it when i bought the game, but now it's like the only arena i want to play in.

when you know your char really well, like what his repulsor moves are, and what distance they push your opp. and when you have a good sense of moving around the arena...
oh man the acid bath is the shit!

i did movado from long fist, 1,1,b+2,b+4,SS to hookswords, f+4(repulsor), and drove my opponent right into the bath...
devestating damage, 27%(they had weapon drawn) took damage off the wall, and then washed in acid.

if they are lined up with the bath then do b+2, b+2, then the f+4 with hooks. leave out the b+4 in long fist which is a sidestepping launcher.

fun to watch too, since the f+4 changes the camera angle to right over Movado's shoulder grin

his throw is also good for putting them in the bath as well as the 2 attack in long fist.

in wing chung 1,1,u+1, worked well too.

i must say, i didn't like the acid bath at first because i thought of it as tainting the kombat.

but now i see that it only helps to hone your skills of placment, ie; either walking your opponent into danger, or just knowing where you are in relation to your surroundings while dodging strings.

i hope this is exlpoited even more so in the next game.
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03/05/2003 05:21 PM (UTC)
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movado is low tier. it is literally impossible at high level for mavado to beat Bo.
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03/05/2003 05:45 PM (UTC)
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movado is low tier. it is literally impossible at high level for mavado to beat Bo.

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agreed. tongue
it seems that they designed the game by giving certain characters abusable moves and kick azz strings (cough*JIN*cough tongue) and labelling these as '1-3' in the difficulty list, but then taking other characters and giving them less abusable stuff and less combos, launchers and what not and labelled these '4-5' characters or 'more difficult to master'. movado just doesn't have as much abusable stuff like bo or scorpy or even sonya for that matter.....(my 5 cents! tongue)
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03/05/2003 06:49 PM (UTC)
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MK_Legend, with a good defense ANY character can defeat any other character. It is possible for Mavado to beat Bo in high level, but not likely.

I remember back in the MK2 days, I was playing this really good Mileena player that used the mid-air sai cheapness and had a knack for knowing what I was going to do...needless to say, my superior defense won and I beat him 3-2 with Reptile...what's that? Yes, Reptile.
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03/05/2003 07:13 PM (UTC)
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appologies for the doublepost... it's late i'm stoned my bad.
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03/05/2003 07:28 PM (UTC)
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MK_Legend Wrote:
movado is low tier. it is literally impossible at high level for mavado to beat Bo.


thats the most closed minded statment ive read on this matter.

i can say nothing about bo,
i've never really played him, but i know he's good.
but to completly dismiss the matchup?

i see nothing in say, kung lao's actual content that dosn't have somthing comperable in a stance of movado.
all movado lacks is a distance game.

or mabey your basing it on his lack of branch stuff from long fist?

i understand that you know your shit,
but that statment is just plain confounding...
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03/05/2003 07:35 PM (UTC)
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konqrr Wrote:
MK_Legend, with a good defense ANY character can defeat any other character. It is possible for Mavado to beat Bo in high level, but not likely.

I remember back in the MK2 days, I was playing this really good Mileena player that used the mid-air sai cheapness and had a knack for knowing what I was going to do...needless to say, my superior defense won and I beat him 3-2 with Reptile...what's that? Yes, Reptile.

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Reptile was AWSOME in MK2!
hard to use, but so underestimated.

and yes, reptile could do just as good a job as anyone else in the game.

they never should have changed his special moves at all, ever.
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03/05/2003 11:45 PM (UTC)
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i dunno, i'm starting to have my doubts about mavado. don't get me wrong, i still like him as a character and he's a lot of fun to fight with, but i just don't think he's got what it takes to compete with some of the other characters at high gameplay levels. it's a simple matter of not having enough moves in wing chun and combo strings in longfist. this isn't to say it's not possible for someone to really compete with mavado, but it's much harder than it should be. i can't remember what level difficulty he is, i think it's 4, but he should be like a 6. i find myself running out of things to do with him, whereas with other characters i still feel like there's a lot to experiment with. even drahmin, who is more difficult to use than most characters due to his lack of combos, has more to work with because he's got such a great diversity of attacks. mavado sadly doesn't have this. i still like him but i don't know if i can really get behind him anymore in the "he's as good as any other character" debate.
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03/06/2003 04:45 AM (UTC)
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I honestly feel mavado is a fill in character to add to the roster, without adding competition to the game. His sidestep mixups are about all he has going for him as far as high level play. There are other aspects of his fighting styles to debate, but when compared with higher tier characters, there is a lot of emptiness coming from Mavado. IMHO...
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03/06/2003 05:59 AM (UTC)
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03/06/2003 06:03 AM (UTC)
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konqrr Wrote:
MK_Legend, with a good defense ANY character can defeat any other character. It is possible for Mavado to beat Bo in high level, but not likely.

I remember back in the MK2 days, I was playing this really good Mileena player that used the mid-air sai cheapness and had a knack for knowing what I was going to do...needless to say, my superior defense won and I beat him 3-2 with Reptile...what's that? Yes, Reptile.



i said at high level!!!!!!!!! there is NO way u beat a top level MK2 players mileena with reptile. maybe u beat a scrub/average player but nuthing more. in MK2 is is IMPOSSIBLE for reptile to beat jax or mileena at high level its the same for mavado in DA vs Bo. believe me, movado CANNOT beat Bo at the highest level and thats not me being closed minded........its a fact!!
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03/06/2003 06:12 AM (UTC)
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MK_Legend Wrote:

konqrr Wrote:
MK_Legend, with a good defense ANY character can defeat any other character. It is possible for Mavado to beat Bo in high level, but not likely.

I remember back in the MK2 days, I was playing this really good Mileena player that used the mid-air sai cheapness and had a knack for knowing what I was going to do...needless to say, my superior defense won and I beat him 3-2 with Reptile...what's that? Yes, Reptile.


i said at high level!!!!!!!!! there is NO way u beat a top level MK2 players mileena with reptile. maybe u beat a scrub/average player but nuthing more. in MK2 is is IMPOSSIBLE for reptile to beat jax or mileena at high level its the same for mavado in DA vs Bo. believe me, movado CANNOT beat Bo at the highest level and thats not me being closed minded........its a fact!!


you're a fucking idiot dude
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03/06/2003 07:31 AM (UTC)
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i said at high level!!!!!!!!! there is NO way u beat a top level MK2 players mileena with reptile. maybe u beat a scrub/average player but nuthing more. in MK2 is is IMPOSSIBLE for reptile to beat jax or mileena at high level its the same for mavado in DA vs Bo. believe me, movado CANNOT beat Bo at the highest level and thats not me being closed minded........its a fact!!


So, it's not possible for anyone you don't know to be a good player? I'm not talking about scrubs here...I beat an excellent Mileena player with Reptile, end of story...doesn't matter if you think we're all scrubs or not. It wasn't easy, but I won. Hell, I beat several really good MK2 players with Reptile. Invisiblity is god.

MKL, even if you're the greatest MK player in the world...you're way too cocky for your own good. Nearly every response I've ever read from you is putting someone down or telling them that they are wrong. You're against positive discussion. Look at your choice of avatars...

MK5.ORG = Agent Smith
MyUnrealBB = Sith Lord

You don't like the good guys sad
We're not all idiots you know...
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03/06/2003 12:27 PM (UTC)
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MKlegend,

ok, i can believe thers a lot ive yet to see in MKDA, but let's face it, MK2 wasn't rocket science by comparison.
and i was there with that one long after KI came out, and after the bootleg 'upgrade' chips.
im fairly confident i saw all there was to see on that game. and i definitly hung with the best of the best...

and im fairly confident in saying if that if you believe reptile couldn't beat her then your credentials are severly compramised. (and also we must have been better than i thought we were, i guess)

but this isn't about prickwaving braggingrights that no one can prove, and i don't want to turn this into a disscussion that belongs in another forum, i just can't help wonder what else your wrong about.

by the way, i'm still wondering what the 'slide trick into a stance change' is...
iv'e found it easy to change stance at will, during kombat, low tap, bbdash into dif. stance combo... or just whenever...
so what does this mean?

no offence intended that your arrogance does not prescribe.

i do have another question for whoever,

is there any reason why the special button does a kick in mid air?
i've done some work with this and found nothing 'special' about it.
just wondering if anyone had insight, it mabey is just like that for no reason at all i suppose.
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03/06/2003 04:19 PM (UTC)
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fellas!! man-up guys, man-up! y'all actin' like pansies!! grin

PS: and if you're goin' to the texas tourney, you better hope MKL's not in YOUR bracket and YOU have to face him! (although HE knows my WS+2 ownz his kazama-yama boy 2,1 cheeZy aZZ..hee hee hee....tongue)

Peace out bros!!
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03/06/2003 07:26 PM (UTC)
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i think i'd give my left nut to get down there for that, but i can't attend for too manny reasons sad

im still hoping somthing will work out to have some kind of big brawl here in RI, but i get no takers in my area, and i don't have a place to have it now anyway...
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03/07/2003 05:46 AM (UTC)
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Just like anything in life, certain things hold avantages over other things, including mortal Kombat fighters. Just like the two teams with one being severely overmatched, the underdog prevails. Impossible? According to some, this could be true. It would be impossible. Me? Shit, I think I've seen people play the game at the 'highest' level and uh...Well, I'm saying this, people can find a way to win no matter the odds stacked up. Why would someone try to match up well against another fighter anyways? That's boring. lol Yall probably think the same way too. If not, I'm dumb and I won't post here again.
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03/07/2003 05:52 AM (UTC)
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MK_Legend Wrote:

konqrr Wrote:
MK_Legend, with a good defense ANY character can defeat any other character. It is possible for Mavado to beat Bo in high level, but not likely.

I remember back in the MK2 days, I was playing this really good Mileena player that used the mid-air sai cheapness and had a knack for knowing what I was going to do...needless to say, my superior defense won and I beat him 3-2 with Reptile...what's that? Yes, Reptile.


i said at high level!!!!!!!!! there is NO way u beat a top level MK2 players mileena with reptile. maybe u beat a scrub/average player but nuthing more. in MK2 is is IMPOSSIBLE for reptile to beat jax or mileena at high level its the same for mavado in DA vs Bo. believe me, movado CANNOT beat Bo at the highest level and thats not me being closed minded........its a fact!!


OT:
I totally, 100% percent agree with MK_L. Both Mileena and Jax were the best of the best in mkII there is not question about it. Mileena being #1 and Jax #2. As for a player being able to defeat a Mileena player at high-level gameplay well...that just would not have happened. Even if the guy/gal playing Mileena was having an off day, still almost no chance for the Reptile player to win.

Definitely is refreshing to see another player recognize who the best truly were in mkII. I thought I was going nuts, cause up to this point this has always been a HUGH battle on any forum that discusses this topic. Honestly it shouldn’t be. Back in mkII’s hey day at the 4 arcades I hung out at, everyone knew those two (Mileena and Jax) were the best. Just baffling why people think Reptile is, or how he was even top tier for that. Anyway....

As for you Konqrr, how in the world in you beat this guy? I mean yes Reptile does have invisible, but it is a weak special compared to the arsenal of specials that Mileena and Jax have at their disposal. Also, (forgive me if I am wrong) are you not about 16 years old? How in the world did you even play at a high level play being 6-7 years old? Not that age has much to do with it, but if you can barely reach that machine and you know for a fact you were playing as much others you could drive there on their own and had jobs.

I apologize to the original poster, but just wanted to add my 2 cents.
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03/07/2003 06:26 AM (UTC)
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1. Both Mileena and Jax were the best of the best in mkII.

2. Just baffling why people think Reptile is, or how he was even top tier for that.

3. As for you Konqrr, how in the world in you beat this guy? I mean yes Reptile does have invisible, but it is a weak special compared to the arsenal of specials that Mileena and Jax have at their disposal.

4. Also, (forgive me if I am wrong) are you not about 16 years old? How in the world did you even play at a high level play being 6-7 years old?


1. I totally agree, Mileena and Jax are unmatched in MK2.

2. I never said that Reptile was top tier or anything like that. I mostly played Reptile and was determined to find ways to beat these cheap bastards...plus, at the time I had tons of great competition. When you have great comp, you become a great player.

3. When you learn to buffer invisible after every move and can close the distance on Mileena...she can be defeated, Jax is another story. That and anti-air belongs to the ninjas of MK2. It wasn't easy and it was like 8-9 years ago so...go figure.

4. I'll be 28 in July, thank you very much.
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03/07/2003 12:55 PM (UTC)
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TO Konqrr: Again, sorry about the age thing. Obviously I am getting you confused with someone else.
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