haasjin Wrote: As for you Konqrr, are you not about 16 years old? How in the world did you even play at a high level play being 6-7 years old?

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LOL........

konqrr Wrote: 3. When you learn to buffer invisible after every move and can close the distance on Mileena...she can be defeated, Jax is another story. That and anti-air belongs to the ninjas of MK2. It wasn't easy and it was like 8-9 years ago so...go figure.

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preach on.

ok, i swear just one more post dealing with reptile mk2 then i'll get over it.
youve all had manny years to form your opinion on the matter, and no force on earth can crack that concrete. especially since this MK2 stuff will most likely never be relevant again.

true, reptile didn't have as much up his sleave, and i always played him knowing it was not in my favor. i played him to spite people who said he was imbalanced and weak. they just never gave him a chance.

invis was the best thing reptile had.
people didn't realize you could block instantly after the move, if they broke the invis so what...
i can put it right back on.

some people also didnt realize you didn't have to hold block to do the up down(or was it down up?) for the invis, you could throw a roundhouse for example, and be invis before they hit the ground.

and once you were invis the object was to do exacty opposite what you would normally do while visible, and not to be where they would expect you to be.

the invis was the best because it was psychological kombat.
you can't calculate that into x vs y = x>y.

that equation is left for computer vs computer

When I was invisible, I ALWAYS knew where I was and it pissed off a lot of people. This is MKDA discussion, so let's now get back "on topic"

I plan on making Cage combo vids, but I have no time right now...when I do though, I'll post here.

Devil, lets try to not kiss MKL's ass for a few minutes shall we? You two are ruining the topic. Contribute with some good stuff or be gone.

I've faced some decent BRCs, but nothing high level caliber. I never said BRC was not top tier, I am saying that he is not the 2nd best. Just because MKL says hes 2nd ranked in some topic at earthrealm doesn't mean BRC automatically owns everyone. The game is a bit too fresh to be to hasty about tiers. Lets wait till TiT5 is over.

Rep is low mid tier in MK2. He's basically all about setting up the forceball with sweeps. Saying Reptile can't beat mileena is bs.

Mavado can't take out BRC? I hope you get a nice wakeup call at TiT5. Mavado may be low tier, but this isn't T4 pal. Everyone stands a good chance. Mav may not have any true mix ups, but he does have Long Fist: b+4. This baby auto steps and may get him a good launcher if it's not blocked. His punish tools are also heavily underestimated. 1,1,b+2,b+2,cs,1,2,4 barely scratches the surface of what he can do.

Cage is so ill in MKDA.Possibly the best mid tier in the game(though Quan Chi gives him a good run for his money). JKD is too good. You've got u+4, which from what I have seen so far, tracks side steppers. You've got a2,2,3,3,cs,b+2,b+2,cs,1,2,4 juggle that does 35%. Nunchaku is also pretty sick. d+1 is a nice poke that can break up strings rather effectively. 1,1,1,1 is prolly the best thing you have out of Nun. Nice damage, and it's really safe on block. Also, Karate has u+3 which auto steps and avoids all kinds of stuff.
Overall, I must say that Cage is by far the most underrated character.

Nice little trick with Sub Zero that, while risky, can be seriously rewarding. Shoto: 1,2,b+2,1,2,4,cs,2,cs. While the cs,2 will miss, if they tech roll, the last hit will track their ass. Ill stuff, but it may be a bit too risky to try in high leveled play.

MKL plays jin? Oh wow, much skill involved there. I play Hwoarang/Craig/Kazuya. I bet MKL plays Sonya in MKDA since he thinks top tier characters are "elite".

I may have just discovered the illest juggle ever with SZ. I noticed many(including myself) have complained about SZ being weak. This is far from the truth. It's funny how this juggle was right in front of us all this time, and no one ever noticed it...

Shotokan: 1,2,b+2,b+2~b,d+2~cs~sm~1,2,cs does a hefty 33%! No walls, no nothing.

Also, I hope you've all notcied that SZ has a guaranteed power up juggle off of a freeze. b,d+2,sm,1,1,2,d+2,1,2,cs does anywhere from 35-47%. Sickness...

Kano has some good moves too:

In first stance: 1, 1, 2, cs (after this move you are in the second stance en your enemy is still high in the air after popup. Do a powerup/nejin and then this attack: 4, 3, cs, b+2

I dont know what the total damage is because you can't combine the two attacks. But the first does normal damage and the second attack does around 53% damage. Between the two moves you can a powerup as described in the first text.

Ahh man I got a skull.. Actually, you can do *wall* 1,1,2,cs,4,4,3,cs,b+2, which does a hefty 57% if my memory serves me correctly(not that fond of Kano).

Ahh man I got a skull.. Actually, you can do *wall* 1,1,2,cs,4,4,3,cs,b+2, which does a hefty 57% if my memory serves me correctly(not that fond of Kano).

*EDIT* u guys r right. i am a stupid dummy. i get owned all the time i just like to come on here and sound like a good player. mavado owns my Bo for free. i will get a wake up call at TiT when i get raped. I suck, I'm a phoney, I am an ass.........peace out MK5.org

you may be good MKL, but your a crybaby.

i'd like a nickle for every argument i read that ended with 'im leaving this forum'.

i guess this means i don't get my 'slide trick into a stance change' deffinition?

you are far too thin-skinned.

p.s. come back from texas with video, i wish i was going to be there

"I would beat u 100 straight in T4 and DA with random. and as for mavado giving me a wake up call at TiT, if i win it will be u who has the wake up call.......since u guys think that i'm messing up this thread i wont post on MK5 anymore. i'm sorry for messing up this thread..... peace out."

How ignorant was all of that mess? What if I *gasp* pick Bo Rai Cho and you get Mavado on random? Oh no, you can't win because it's impossible for mavado to win at a "high level". You may be good, but I know for damn sure that you can't beat me 100 straight. Not with these make believe rules you make up. Get out of here and go practice your JFLS and Sonya/Scorpion cheese.

As for the trick step, Im pretty sure he ment tapping f or b to walk instead of holding it. BRC moves much quicker in Drunkenfist using this technique instead of just holding forward or back.

"I would beat u 100 straight in T4 and DA with random. and as for mavado giving me a wake up call at TiT, if i win it will be u who has the wake up call.......since u guys think that i'm messing up this thread i wont post on MK5 anymore. i'm sorry for messing up this thread..... peace out."

How ignorant was all of that mess? What if I *gasp* pick Bo Rai Cho and you get Mavado on random? Oh no, you can't win because it's impossible for mavado to win at a "high level". You may be good, but I know for damn sure that you can't beat me 100 straight. Not with these make believe rules you make up. Get out of here and go practice your JFLS and Sonya/Scorpion cheese.

As for the trick step, Im pretty sure he ment tapping f or b to walk instead of holding it. BRC moves much quicker in Drunkenfist using this technique instead of just holding forward or back.

Please stop double posting. Forums are to discuss, not to attack and demean (which happens all to often). And MKL, saying that you can get 100 straight wins over someone you've never met is a pretty stupid statement...for any game. I hold my own pretty well in Tekken, even with random, and nobody can beat me 100 straight times...not even MadDogJin.

man.. this is like a mortal kombat version of jerry springer.

Movado wing chung cheese throw.

been playing with the d+2 in movado's second stance, the forward crawling low punch...

i used two d+2's and then the throw when the chance came up. nothing fancy, but when ducking below say, kung lou's 1,1,1 in mantis, it makes a good opritunity to slow it down for a moment with this change up.

whats interesting tho, is the way i cought some of my oponents with the throw...

over and over, movado went thru his throw animation after my oponent was sidstepping...

they would go thru their 'being thown' animation, but it was over to the side of where i was, and they were out of camera.

i also cought raiden as he tried to jump away from me, he went thru his being thrown animation up above me in the air.

it actually boils down to them just plain not blocking my throw, so no mystery there... just interesting that the throw MUST be blocked there, then countered. rather than countered immediately.
(at least i think thats the way it works, don't yell at me)

the throw does seem to make a good change up, just because it isn't just a high block, unless like me, your opponent just always knows they should block for the throw.

heh, i don't want to start another OT tangent, but remember the MK1 sonya leg trap? (and were you man enough to get out of it?)

bla bla bla...
anyway, a less cheesy mix up i've been using is,

wing chung stance d+2, bbdash, CS to hookswords while bbdashing, then coming out of the dash with either 4,4,b+3, or...

come out with the 3, if it hits deep (both swipes high and low) then try 4,4,b+3.

if you come out of bbdash with the 3 and it hits shallow (1rst swipe only, high), i like to bbdash again and either 4,4,b+3, or just f+4(repulsor).

im fuking tired, im going to bed.
later all.

(Correct me if I am wrong, with a legitamet rebutal, not a pissant lowlevel attitude attack) MK2 Mileena High Level game play...

I Know some serious corner damaging combos with Mileena, but she has 3 moves...Sais, Roll, Drop Kick... Two of which if blocked give opportunity to an uppercut, therfore 25% loss of health. Her Sais where a great midair/land attack, but even that can only give her so much of an advantage.

I always found anyone using mileena way to easy to beat. Often without even needing an arsenal of special moves.

As far as reptile vs. Mileena. Reptiles moves are weak in comparison as far as damage is concerned. His invisibility would be his greatest ally. I could see either fighter winning. But if I had to choose who I would be, I would prefer Reptile. I know I could win with either no matter the scenario, but I like Reptiles fatalities better.

Also, during highlevel gameplay vs Mileena, any jumping attacks are void and null...won't work. Therefore you have to play the MKDA game...Wait for the attack and counter after the block...

As in any highlevel of gameplay timing is the key regardless. If you can time an attack you will get a hit. Whether your need to block a few attacks first or not.

My favorite timed attack: Uppercutting Shao Khan out of his shoulder dash in MK2... That's a rush...especially doing it 5 times in a row...Oh so good. :)

heh, i honestly don't remember how to fight shao kahn MK2...
think it was jumpkicks, right?
it was always jumpkicks.

lol, i don't think i had the balls to try to upercut him out of the charge

another good night of kombat, and i just want to add this correction to my last on-topic post...

my associates at work fared better against the cheesey low tap then throw, last night.

again, no one punnished me properly for trying the thro, but they did manage to escape it a bit more than previously (which was pretty much not at all), raiden jumped out of it, and didn't get caught in mid air like he did before, leading me to assume that that was rare.

so i have to change what i said about having no choice but to block the throw-change-up.
they did escape a few times, and thus leads me to assume that they can elude the throw and punish you for it, which is only natural.

Versatile Wrote: Devil, lets try to not kiss MKL's ass for a few minutes shall we? You two are ruining the topic. Contribute with some good stuff or be gone.

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don't be callin' me out like you know me or something yo... i've posted strats and contributed to plenty of discussions...maybe if you take the time to actually READ the threads, you might enlighten yourself....(or maybe NOT!)
ALSO, i've spoken with MKL on many occasions and the information he's given me with regard to strategy etc., has been top-notch. sure, he's arrogant, and a tad elitist, but who here isn't? i know who's in his social circles, i know who he plays, and i know his grasp of the game (T4 also) is spot-on. visit the 'zai' and 'EC' for vids of his buds winning T4 tourney's...
AND for the record, i thought the same thing you did UNTIL i started talking to him...he's actually pretty cool (and it takes A LOT to earn my respect!). 'IM' the dood and chat with him, hell even YOU might learn something!
peace out bros.

This is the most rediculous thread i have ever read. Ok, im gonna go out on a limb here and say every last one of you suck, and dont know what the hell your talking about. MKL knows his stuff, so you all should listen to and worship this man.

I also found it very funny that some J-bro said he beat a mileena player with reptile. Now, anybody worth a damn in mk2 knows that is bull. You must be trying to play a joke on us or something. Another thing, i dont think ANY of you know what high level means. I dont mean being the neighborhood champ. I mean being able to compete nationally. I seriously doubt ANY of you except for MKL knows what the hell is going on.

Your all garbage......

You don't have the right to say that they are garbage. And especially when you say we must listen to this MK_Legend...very objective.
CONTINUE this thread as it was supposed to be:
SHARING EXPERIENCES!
ps: I have learned loads of good gameplay from this topic.

RoboJOP Wrote: This is the most rediculous thread i have ever read. Ok, im gonna go out on a limb here and say every last one of you suck, and dont know what the hell your talking about. MKL knows his stuff, so you all should listen to and worship this man. I also found it very funny that some J-bro said he beat a mileena player with reptile. Now, anybody worth a damn in mk2 knows that is bull. You must be trying to play a joke on us or something. Another thing, i dont think ANY of you know what high level means. I dont mean being the neighborhood champ. I mean being able to compete nationally. I seriously doubt ANY of you except for MKL knows what the hell is going on. Your all garbage......

devilgene Wrote: Versatile Wrote: Devil, lets try to not kiss MKL's ass for a few minutes shall we? You two are ruining the topic. Contribute with some good stuff or be gone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ don't be callin' me out like you know me or something yo... i've posted strats and contributed to plenty of discussions...maybe if you take the time to actually READ the threads, you might enlighten yourself....(or maybe NOT!) ALSO, i've spoken with MKL on many occasions and the information he's given me with regard to strategy etc., has been top-notch. sure, he's arrogant, and a tad elitist, but who here isn't? i know who's in his social circles, i know who he plays, and i know his grasp of the game (T4 also) is spot-on. visit the 'zai' and 'EC' for vids of his buds winning T4 tourney's... AND for the record, i thought the same thing you did UNTIL i started talking to him...he's actually pretty cool (and it takes A LOT to earn my respect!). 'IM' the dood and chat with him, hell even YOU might learn something! peace out bros.

1. how much do you want to bet that devilgene is really just an alternative nick that mk_legend made up so that he could talk himself up on the forum?

2. considering that whoever wrote this was in all likelihood white, i find it a bit poser-ish to use so many 'yo's and 'bro's..