anyone else think, without fatalities, this isnt MK??
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posted05/10/2008 11:23 PM (UTC)by
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the one thing i liked about MK was the fatalities, without them you might as well play, Tekken, Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive, at least with them the characters moved smoother

i been a fan of MK since it came out i was kinda of dissopointed with MKA KAF, but now the fatalities are going!

And now Soul Calibur is bringing finnishing moves.. i doubt they will be fataliies but its slowly taking over MK

I hope the game after this is a full MK and will bring bak the fatalities
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Garlador
05/08/2008 02:11 PM (UTC)
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Might want to contribute this to the official "Rant" thead.
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seanay
05/08/2008 02:18 PM (UTC)
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didnt know there was a offical rant, i just read the new interview n was like wat, no fatalities
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05/08/2008 04:58 PM (UTC)
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I think it's fine if they give us cool spectacular finishing moves, and they say they will.
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05/08/2008 06:35 PM (UTC)
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Fatalities have sucked post MK2 so I say good riddance .
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05/08/2008 09:18 PM (UTC)
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Fatalities are part of the reason I play Mortal Kombat.. Not because of the violence, but it just makes it alot different than Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter or Tekken. It differentiated the games and made MK stand out.

While Fatalities didnt completely make MK, MK... they were an integral part of the game... getting rid of them will be getting rid of one of the biggest attractions of the game.
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05/08/2008 09:31 PM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
Fatalities have sucked post MK2 so I say good riddance .


Quoted for accuracy.
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05/08/2008 09:34 PM (UTC)
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seanay Wrote:
didnt know there was a offical rant,

Yep, Here
yeah.. it's just some fighting game that has mk characters in it.

But it'll be alright (hopefully)

they might be able to make it cool
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05/09/2008 05:53 AM (UTC)
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http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167739

MK v DC will have fatalities; they'll just be less gory. I can imagine some, like Scorpion's fire, will remain largely unchanged.
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05/09/2008 07:23 AM (UTC)
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Godzilla Wrote:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167739

MK v DC will have fatalities; they'll just be less gory. I can imagine some, like Scorpion's fire, will remain largely unchanged.


Good to see more interviews that mention they're pushing it as far as they can.
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05/09/2008 09:17 AM (UTC)
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-Brad- Wrote:
Godzilla Wrote:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167739

MK v DC will have fatalities; they'll just be less gory. I can imagine some, like Scorpion's fire, will remain largely unchanged.


Good to see more interviews that mention they're pushing it as far as they can.


Lol @ the guy who said:

"WHy in the name of Neil Patrick Harris would I want Mild Fatalities? Thats like asking for plain peanuts on an airplane. I want some Honey roasted ass devouring fatalities."
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~Mild~ "Fatalities"....lmaO

That's the point though. MK is supposed to be thee adult oriented fighting game. It's supposed to be thee scary, nightmare-inducing fighting game to kids. But-fun at the same time, so it dilutes the "terror" if they happen to be exposed to it.

This is not the game kids are supposed to have free access to. It's supposed to be...exclusive to a group.

Anyway, that's one big thing that's wrong with it. I don't think you can push a T rating far enough to equal "Mortal Kombat".

You effectively "hara kiri" if you do.

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Besides that..."Magic, people. Magic."

Who buys that? W.O.Warcraft fans?

All they had to do for this game to be On FIRE this year, was:

1. Obviously Improve the graphics, completely new designs and all that...

2. Make the atmosphere more mystical & scary. Fatalities, Arenas, and all that...

3. Improve the gameplay to an undeniable degree. Show us you fixed the bs from last gen and all that, not replace it with something else....

4. Tell us a straight up story this time....no "to be continued" stuff, no retons ect..

5. Make sure you get some great Online stuff to do in there...

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Now...even though it's early, it doesn't look like that's what they're in line for accomplishing. Not close anyway, and certainly not to passer-byers.

I tell you, I'd feel like we dodged a real bullet if they delayed "MK8" RIGHT NOW, until further notice. Release this mk vs dc on the hush so they can recoup some revenues, but make the big one, the real MK8 come out next year or early 2010.

Do what "Prototype" just did, make the announcement that Midway"needs more time" to deliver on Mortal Kombats potential.

Tell everybody that they're not following through with this idea, this story, this game as the "official" MK8. It's too transparent.

It'd surely give them enough time to get ahead of the curb on all that's going on right now in gaming. Hell, take a hint from Protoype, and make that the "new" Konquest mode even.

Something...geez
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05/09/2008 01:41 PM (UTC)
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Fatalities aren't really necessary if you try to find their PRACTICAL use. Besides, the fans could equally justly yell this rant about MKA's "fatalities"... And, yet, almost everyone played stupid and didn't bother because it mattered that there simply are some fatalities, it didn't matter whether they could even compare to those of classic MKs.
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05/09/2008 01:49 PM (UTC)
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Fatalities aren't really necessary if you try to find their PRACTICAL use. Besides, the fans could equally justly yell this rant about MKA's "fatalities"... And, yet, almost everyone played stupid and didn't bother because it mattered that there simply are some fatalities, it didn't matter whether they could even compare to those of classic MKs.


Oh yes it did. People were going nuts about that, just like these once we were able to find out how generic they ended up being.

Where were you during all that? It was all over the site man..
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05/09/2008 02:15 PM (UTC)
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I don't think the fatalities are a big loss. I didn't care when the movie didn't have gore. Why should I care now?
I sympathize with the people who don't like this change, but to me it's not as big as the loss of a focussed MK fighter for this 8th installment.
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05/09/2008 06:21 PM (UTC)
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i coulnt belive that fatefulday i found out no fatalitlys in mk/dc i was a little upset i mean i want a game that can make your bloodcurdle and you almost want o turn it off cuz of the pain being inflicted on characters and though mk was never that scary it came close and made everyone enjoy themselves by decaping some guy WITH A DANG HAT for pete sakes but now i just dont know...(postponed till i can think of more stuff)
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05/09/2008 06:54 PM (UTC)
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i agree with you completly
im not even buying the game
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05/09/2008 06:54 PM (UTC)
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I originally started out on the MK for SNES which didnt have blood, I wasn't even in the know of blood or fatalities until MK2 came out.
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05/09/2008 07:03 PM (UTC)
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ThePredator151 Wrote:


That's the point though. MK is supposed to be thee adult oriented fighting game. It's supposed to be thee scary, nightmare-inducing fighting game to kids. But-fun at the same time, so it dilutes the "terror" if they happen to be exposed to it.

This is not the game kids are supposed to have free access to. It's supposed to be...exclusive to a group.


Not really dude. MK 1-4 were freely available at most arcades throughout America, Europe, and Australasia. Ten year olds walked up and played them all the time, there was nothing and nobody to stop them and nobody ever intended for there to be. The only thing which has ever made MK "adult oriented" was the stupid little label that the ESRB came up with, but really it has always been geared towards kids; most actual adults are too mature to think "omg blood, that's like soooo cool!" Look around these boards, you'd be lucky to find many people over the age of 18 or 19, most of the users posting here are in their early-mid teens, dispite whatever rating the games get.

Although I have to admit that "honey roasted ass devouring fatalities" is the best thing I've read all week.
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05/10/2008 11:01 PM (UTC)
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Shibata Wrote:
ThePredator151 Wrote:


That's the point though. MK is supposed to be thee adult oriented fighting game. It's supposed to be thee scary, nightmare-inducing fighting game to kids. But-fun at the same time, so it dilutes the "terror" if they happen to be exposed to it.

This is not the game kids are supposed to have free access to. It's supposed to be...exclusive to a group.


Not really dude. MK 1-4 were freely available at most arcades throughout America, Europe, and Australasia. Ten year olds walked up and played them all the time, there was nothing and nobody to stop them and nobody ever intended for there to be. The only thing which has ever made MK "adult oriented" was the stupid little label that the ESRB came up with, but really it has always been geared towards kids; most actual adults are too mature to think "omg blood, that's like soooo cool!" Look around these boards, you'd be lucky to find many people over the age of 18 or 19, most of the users posting here are in their early-mid teens, dispite whatever rating the games get.

Although I have to admit that "honey roasted ass devouring fatalities" is the best thing I've read all week.



Certain parts of Europe, not sure if you guys know or not but believe it or not MK is banned in certain countries like Latvia, Germany and some other countries on the "banned" list. But I do remember few months ago reading about it online and GTA, MK, Manunt, Quake, Doom and Halo(even lol) are all banned in certain countries in the world.

On this fatality bit now, honestly "fatalities" are cool of course but I think when people mention MK they also think "blood and violence" in which MK8 won't be losing as boon even addressed, I think some fans are "jumping the gun here" with the violence factor.

So, we won't see any over the top, silly looking fatalities (that we saw in MKD and MKA) big deal....lol besides, let's admit although fatalities are cool and all it's not everything and nothing can match the good oldschool MK fatalities anyway in terms of originality and popularity.

I just never understood why some fans have this "mind set" going into MK8 judging the game based on the "tone down fatalities" now some kind of "finisher" which boon admitted they don't even know yet what to call them

Perhaps "Punishers" would be more appropriate now that DC is involved?

The game will still be gritty, dark and have blood, bone crusing moves and even though with the T rating, much more violent then the other fighters out there that have "sweat", "sparks" or some other kind of made up substitute for "blood"

@ seaney now, I see what you're saying and respect your view but want to make a few points here.

1. Despite MK8's fatality gig toning them down for DC's crossover, MK's fatality charm will NEVER die out overall. Would you bet your money that Midway never makes another MK game again with fatalities? I wouldn't....

Besides, I can see if Midway/Boon said officially that they're "officially done forever" with fatalities....then I can see some fans putting up a stink, but this is one game guys...one game lol where we won't get "over the top" fatalities.

2. SC and any other fighter can create their own finishing moves all they want, none will be on par to MK's success with them. Besides, SC is T rated and most likely always will be so don't expect anything insane. I find it a little amusing that a Namco game is actually taking cues from MK now....

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05/10/2008 11:23 PM (UTC)
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The rant sticky would be the best place for this. Please keep all rants about the game to that thread so the forum doesn't get clogged. Thanks.

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