Khameleon and Chameleon...WHY?!
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posted05/28/2007 05:06 PM (UTC)by
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DigitalAssassin
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06/09/2006 05:06 PM (UTC)
Can someone please explain to me the purpose of these 2 lame ass characters? Whats all the hype about?? i mean WHERE IS THE CREATIVITY???..when are we ever gonna get something orginal like scorpion, sub, or baraka again???...I really really loved mk at one point but it fuckin sickens me how the team keeps introducing all these half-assed lame characters... mk8 is gonna suck if Khameleon is a sign of wats to come...her outfit and many others are horrible.. she looks like something i would of drawn when i was ten...100% pure laziness is what created those outfits..ugh.....once again WHERE DID THE CREATIVITY GO? Im frustrated man cuz i want mk to go back to the old days when it was GOOD... furious
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05/01/2007 12:47 AM (UTC)
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For one, Khameleon is an important plot device connected to Reptile, and perhaps Chameleon. Her existance primarily affects the fate of their race, the Zaterreans/Raptors (whichever you prefer). If she does not come about, there will be no more future "Reptiles."

Meanwhile, Chameleon is a worthless crock of shit. lol

But if you are just noticing these characters now, they were created a long time ago, at the time MKT came out, which was 10 years ago - they're nothing new.
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05/01/2007 12:51 AM (UTC)
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ERRRR.....Will the jealousy and hatred never cease?
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05/01/2007 01:13 AM (UTC)
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Legacy Wrote:
For one, Khameleon is an important plot device connected to Reptile, and perhaps Chameleon. Her existance primarily affects the fate of their race, the Zaterreans/Raptors (whichever you prefer). If she does not come about, there will be no more future "Reptiles."

Meanwhile, Chameleon is a worthless crock of shit. lol

But if you are just noticing these characters now, they were created a long time ago, at the time MKT came out, which was 10 years ago - they're nothing new.


ya i know they were in mkt, but werent they put on just for the hell of it??... as characters that weren't suppose to be taken seriously...like meat in mk4...
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05/01/2007 01:20 AM (UTC)
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they ARE meant to be taken seriously, learn your facts. Now meat and mokap, they ARE joke characters. Whats the point of this thread anyway? This seem useless to me, its just about bashing.
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05/01/2007 01:31 AM (UTC)
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and people say I add nothing to these boards.
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05/01/2007 01:37 AM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
they ARE meant to be taken seriously, learn your facts. Now meat and mokap, they ARE joke characters. Whats the point of this thread anyway? This seem useless to me, its just about bashing.


They are just as much of a joke as Mokap and Meat in my opinion - very little established storyline, generic looks, copycat moves, and not the best of fighters. Until something happens to make them more important to the game (more likely for Khameleon), I consider them nothing more than an extra fighter or two.
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05/01/2007 02:25 AM (UTC)
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Legacy Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
they ARE meant to be taken seriously, learn your facts. Now meat and mokap, they ARE joke characters. Whats the point of this thread anyway? This seem useless to me, its just about bashing.


They are just as much of a joke as Mokap and Meat in my opinion - very little established storyline, generic looks, copycat moves, and not the best of fighters. Until something happens to make them more important to the game (more likely for Khameleon), I consider them nothing more than an extra fighter or two.


I don't give a crap if you consider them jokes, the point is they are not. Now if you want to have a debate over this we can, but let me just warn you, i'm liable to shake my ass in your face and get real ghetto on youglasses
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05/01/2007 02:30 AM (UTC)
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Oh noes....
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05/01/2007 02:32 AM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Legacy Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
they ARE meant to be taken seriously, learn your facts. Now meat and mokap, they ARE joke characters. Whats the point of this thread anyway? This seem useless to me, its just about bashing.


They are just as much of a joke as Mokap and Meat in my opinion - very little established storyline, generic looks, copycat moves, and not the best of fighters. Until something happens to make them more important to the game (more likely for Khameleon), I consider them nothing more than an extra fighter or two.


I don't give a crap if you consider them jokes, the point is they are not. Now if you want to have a debate over this we can, but let me just warn you, i'm liable to shake my ass in your face and get real ghetto on youglasses


Since this is my first time back in a while, I'm liable not to start and fight and got banned, so I'll leave you and your precious ninjas alone...











...for now.

Anyways, how is it possible to get "ghetto" over the internet? People in the ghetto can't afford paying for internet service. Unless they're drug dealers. Are you a drug dealer?
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05/01/2007 02:33 AM (UTC)
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And you don't want me to get ghetto

"Starts to sing *Walk It Out*wink
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05/01/2007 05:26 AM (UTC)
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Basicly Khameleon had a story, and Chameleon didn't. Many fans were upset since only Chameleon, who had no plot, got chosen over Khameleon in Midway's C/Khameleon choice. Khameleon had loose ends to tie up with Reptile and such.

So to comply to fan feedback Midway has included her in the Wii version. Hopefully they give her a relevent ending and not one like Chameleon, Kintaro, Jarek.....

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05/01/2007 05:23 PM (UTC)
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To Professor Ahhnka: I like 'Meleons but they WERE introduced as joke characters. Think about it, they look exactly like their female and male counterparts and switch colors so that they can emulate all of them. They were put in Trilogy to poke fun at the palette-swap thing Midway had going on. Khameleon was just lucky enough to have a legitimate storyline behind her. Really, Meat and Mokap are just as important as the ninjas or, if anything, are more important because Mokap appeared in Deception's Konquest and Meat was someone that Midway knew they were going to put in Armagedon before they even started the game wheras the 'Meleons made no Konquest appearances and weren't even going to be in Armagedon until fans complained about it.

To Digital Assassin: Again, the 'Meleons weren't meant to hightlight MK's creativity. The only reason they're in Armagedon is to include everyone in this one game. They look, fight, and act the way they do simply as a throwback to those precious "old days" that you miss so much and were created in the first place as jokes, not to be taken seriously.

I myself like Cha and Kha meleon and am a proponent of their inclusion in Armagedon simply based on the fact that the MK team said everyone was going to be this game. I also think they look pretty kool. The invisible skin syncs up nicely with their names and gives them a bit of an identity as is the case with all of the other ninjas and ninjettes when they were brought into real 3D (A trait that is actually counter-productive for these two...) and I love how they wear costumes that reference their old appearances (One of the few occassions that I mark out for nostalgia.).
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05/01/2007 09:36 PM (UTC)
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They both look like spermotozoids. Bad idea.
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05/01/2007 09:42 PM (UTC)
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They are both wastes of space. There was just a bunch of stupid rant going on on them not being there... like Tremor... and Hurnbuckle. Characters that do not actually do shit. I myself wouldn't have brought such worthless things as Mokap or Striker, even if Stryker kinda got half-okay.
It's not like the creators actually cared for them... Just too much worthless ranting for anything. They were brought back for the n00bs.
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05/01/2007 10:49 PM (UTC)
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in MKT, they were secret characters, both Khameleon and Chameleon...I suspect that they made a mistake on Chameleon that they didn't replace the "C" with a "K" so then it was too late and they needed to make another one with similarities and as such...that was then they created Khameleon.

Still, in my opinion, the two suck, like they can't produce their own specials, and they need to mimic the ninjas. But still, it is just my small opinion.
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05/01/2007 11:05 PM (UTC)
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ErmacFan Wrote:
in MKT, they were secret characters, both Khameleon and Chameleon...I suspect that they made a mistake on Chameleon that they didn't replace the "C" with a "K" so then it was too late and they needed to make another one with similarities and as such...that was then they created Khameleon.

Still, in my opinion, the two suck, like they can't produce their own specials, and they need to mimic the ninjas. But still, it is just my small opinion.


That has got to be the most idiotic and sillyest thing i ever heard. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT! THAT IS THEIR NITCH. Thats the whole point of them gameplay wise.
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05/02/2007 01:32 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
They both look like spermotozoids. Bad idea.


Haha, so true! now that you mention it, I will never look at them the same ever again.

bUt th31r n1Nj4z R0x0rZLmFazzO00!!!111111!!!11!1111 one one one one one
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general_baraka14
05/02/2007 07:47 PM (UTC)
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well they have story lines so i guess there important, not too sure about chameleon but hes still awsome
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05/02/2007 10:14 PM (UTC)
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general_baraka14 Wrote:
well they have story lines so i guess there important, not too sure about chameleon but hes still awsome


Since when does "One of Shao Kahn's deadliest warriors count as a story? lol
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05/02/2007 10:47 PM (UTC)
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prodigy004 Wrote:
Oh noes....


LmFaO!

Legacy Wrote:

Anyways, how is it possible to get "ghetto" over the internet? People in the ghetto can't afford paying for internet service. Unless they're drug dealers. Are you a drug dealer?


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To "ProfessorAhnka": They've always been "paper-weight characters". Very last minute additions to the game as sort of a fun thing for fans to find. Like "super-secrets" in the game. Never meant as "serious" characters.

The question is...can those two do what Ermac did?. He was another "error", but he became a serious character. Based on fan reception...I wouldn't count on C/Khameleon ever becoming more than what they were intended initially.

Even in MkA they were "last minute additions, put there to appease fans". As far as thier "niche", I see what you mean....but without purpose....with-out relavant story-lines and indiviuality through moves and so on. They're just useless to the game. Besides that other characters on the "official roster" have had copied moves and looks dating way back to M1-T. "All the ninjas and cyborgs"...ect

It's boring to keep doing that. Pallete Swaps, Copied Moves ect...

To Quote Shiryu, "they were put there for the n00bs".
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05/03/2007 12:59 AM (UTC)
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hey, thanx for expresssing ur opinion in a cool way predetor, i agree, they are just in MKA for fans sake. But that dosen't mean they are joke characters like ignorant people like to claim. And all we can do is wait.....they need a chance, a story, and hopefully we'll get to see their bios and they be good, that'll (hopefully) shut the haters up. And that is their nitch, but i agree, it wouldn't hurt for them to have one or two new moves along with ones from the other characters. I just think that after all these other copy cats have came, Reiko,Jarek and ect. That people are getting sick of it. But even if Khamel and Chamel don't get a bio because midway stops posting the bios, we shouldn't be angry at the characters. But i think Khameleon can become a serious character and hopefully chamel as well. And they look great in MKA. Many reptile fans like Khameleon thanx to her great story, her story is cool and serious. Lets hope boon continues that cool story for MKA. PS. And i know all ther other characters did share each others costumes and stuff, but chamel and khamel were supposed to be the ultimate combonationwink
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05/03/2007 06:00 AM (UTC)
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I love how your complaint is a lack of originality, and then your first two examples of original characters are Scorpion and Sub-Zero...

Two characters who originally used the same actor, and the same sprites, in the same game...

And they were ninjas in a martial arts game, no less...

Who were great rivals, and whose powers were the oh-so original: fire and ice...

They're the original tag-team of fighting game unoriginality dude...

The only way they could be less original is if Scorpion had been red instead of Yellow...

Their picture is next to the definition in the dictionary...
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05/03/2007 06:12 AM (UTC)
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Gillbob316 Wrote:
I love how your complaint is a lack of originality, and then your first two examples of original characters are Scorpion and Sub-Zero...

Two characters who originally used the same actor, and the same sprites, in the same game...

And they were ninjas in a martial arts game, no less...

Who were great rivals, and whose powers were the oh-so original: fire and ice...

They're the original tag-team of fighting game unoriginality dude...

The only way they could be less original is if Scorpion had been red instead of Yellow dude.

Their picture is next to the definition in the dictionary...


lol.
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