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WarriorPrincess Wrote:
Not being selfish, just want her to at least look fresh and new. Everyone that has been announced so far while maintaining some of their classic look, have a new design to them and don't look recycled. Kitana's costume however looks the same as before. She had this outfit as an alternate in DA. Now that ain't right.
Not being selfish, just want her to at least look fresh and new. Everyone that has been announced so far while maintaining some of their classic look, have a new design to them and don't look recycled. Kitana's costume however looks the same as before. She had this outfit as an alternate in DA. Now that ain't right.
You can't make out ish from that video, just wait and see for the high res render, I bet you'll spot diffrences.
ThePredator151 Wrote:
Slick her ^^ hair back, and there you have Jade.
I mean, technically, they never clarify race....but I think it's apparent they tried to make a black lady ninja out of the Kitana pallet swap.

Turned into:
Definitely a black chick.
i always thought she was indian.TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I always thought Jade looked more Egyptian.
I always thought Jade looked more Egyptian.

Slick her ^^ hair back, and there you have Jade.
I mean, technically, they never clarify race....but I think it's apparent they tried to make a black lady ninja out of the Kitana pallet swap.


Turned into:

Definitely a black chick.


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oracle Wrote:
ThePredator151 Wrote:
Slick her ^^ hair back, and there you have Jade.
I mean, technically, they never clarify race....but I think it's apparent they tried to make a black lady ninja out of the Kitana pallet swap.

Turned into:
Definitely a black chick.
i always thought she was indian.TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I always thought Jade looked more Egyptian.
I always thought Jade looked more Egyptian.

Slick her ^^ hair back, and there you have Jade.
I mean, technically, they never clarify race....but I think it's apparent they tried to make a black lady ninja out of the Kitana pallet swap.


Turned into:

Definitely a black chick.
Funny, I always thought she was black after all, its not possible to have a black female ninja without her being something else, silly me

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O.O Indian? Egyptian? I don't know about all that. jade looks like a beautiful black woman to me. Her features don't even resemble anyone middle eastern or Indian, to me anyway. Besides she's Edenian. Just has a darker skintone.
it's possible to have a black ninja be black and nothing else but the bottom like is like warrior princess said, she's EDENIAN.
but speaking of edenia i always thought they had a very racial diverse realm as far as real world ethnicities and nationalities go.
i always though kitana was latin, jade was indian, mileena was middle eastern, and tanya was black.
but speaking of edenia i always thought they had a very racial diverse realm as far as real world ethnicities and nationalities go.
i always though kitana was latin, jade was indian, mileena was middle eastern, and tanya was black.

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Yeah they come in different colors just like American's but at the end of the day they aren't black, White, Latin, Indian, or anything else. I'm sure if any of us were to ask Jade (if she was real of course) is she's Black, Egyptian or Indian, she'd say NO! She is Edenian. I think people think of Kitana as Latin because of Talisa Soto. Ever since the MK films the characters, mainly Liu Kang & Kitana, have taken on the look of those actors in game.
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Garlador Wrote:
I don't know if Jade is black, but I do know she's beautiful. That works for me.
I don't know if Jade is black, but I do know she's beautiful. That works for me.
Yeah there really isn't any proof of Jade being "black" she seems more very tan honestly or possibly latina. Her facial features don't scream "african" really that much
oracle Wrote:
it's possible to have a black ninja be black and nothing else but the bottom like is like warrior princess said, she's EDENIAN.
but speaking of edenia i always thought they had a very racial diverse realm as far as real world ethnicities and nationalities go.
i always though kitana was latin, jade was indian, mileena was middle eastern, and tanya was black.
it's possible to have a black ninja be black and nothing else but the bottom like is like warrior princess said, she's EDENIAN.
but speaking of edenia i always thought they had a very racial diverse realm as far as real world ethnicities and nationalities go.
i always though kitana was latin, jade was indian, mileena was middle eastern, and tanya was black.
It doesn't make sense to clone a Latin and get a Middle Eastern. Unless the Goat was Middle Eastern or something. I don't even know if what I'm talking about is canon. My first impression of those renders is that they're horrible. But of course, that's an impression I'm entitled to and I'm waiting for better quality ones with backgrounds.
It makes sense that Jax is in the game. He was popular in MK2, and MK3... his part of the story can be tied in with Sonya's... and he is the first black MK character. He was actually one of the people I thought would be in it... though I haven't been wrong yet. I'm still expecting Raiden, Cage, and Kung Lao... then I'll be fully right.
Everyone looks good. Kitana's apparel is what she is known for, and that is my favorite look for her.
Everyone looks good. Kitana's apparel is what she is known for, and that is my favorite look for her.
Best part of the announcement was the Joker! His character model looks awesome, I can't wait to see his specials! If I could, I'd add the smeared lipstick (or w/e the red thing is) around his mouth, it adds to his crazed, deranged look. But I did read that they couldn't do anything related to the movies, so it's excellent as is!
Jax is fine. I wasn't yearning for his presence, but I did expect him to be in, and he doesn't bother me one bit. Look-wise, he seems to have gone through a couple changes, but his costume IS dominated by dark/earth colors, so we can't see any details. I'll wait for the high-res render before I give further opinions.
Alright, now for the down side...
As for Kitana, it looks like their creativity was way too spent from the other characters by the time they got to her, and they just went the "whatever the fuck" route. I mean, seriously, Sub-Zero and Scorpion are two characters that have kept pretty much the same "type" of design all throughout these years, and the MK Team still managed to spice them up and make them look "refreshed"! Sonya, they let her retain influences of all her past looks, and still, the outcome was surprising, new, and also "refreshed". Even Shang Tsung looks updated, despite our obvious expectations. Then we get Liu Kang with very minor changes, making him look passable but not satisfying. And now Kitana, looking more like "just another of the female ninjas" than ever! The girl already has a hard enough time being unique among her many Edenian counterparts... has the MK Team given up on her or something? I expected Liu Kang to look hopelessly generic, but I thought Kitana was more valuable than he was, enough that she wouldn't go the same route.
I dunno, I hope the high-res render changes my mind, but as of right now, she just looks bland and very boring to look at, like she's wearing a Halloween costume Sindel sewed together just in time for trick-or-treating before the other girls left. Sucks she wasn't given the same amount of attention as the characters who were first announced, particularly the first three chosen characters, Scorpion, Sub, and Sonya (lots of S's in MK, huh?)
That's what I think. Looking at the low-res pic of Joker in the YouTube video and then looking at his high-res render, I saw that the bad version, despite omitting very nice details, basically could tell anyone what they did for the Joker model. If I were you guys, I wouldn't expect much of a change in the real Kitana render.
I completely disagree. Sub and Scorpion do have their ninja oufits, but enough has been done and updated that they look refreshed, updated. Shang's outfit has similarities to his MK2-3 look, but again, you can tell they spent time on enough minor changes that it makes a noticeable difference, particularly with his hair, facial structure and features, and even overall costume. As for Sonya, you've got it completely backwards, the only part you're 100% right about is the white tank top. She doesn't have cargo pants, in fact, her new style of pants is completely new, same go for her boots (arguably the best part of her costume), beret, gloves, and the small subtleties like the tan lines and lack of bra (as superficial as they are, they do count as minor, yet new qualities). You can tell the MK Team put effort in her new look, cared enough to change a little bit here, change a little bit there, add something new here, put something new there, until she looked new and satisfying for her fans. This isn't the case for Kitana no matter how you look at it, I mean, if I saw that low-res Sonya render before a real screenshot, I could instantly tell she had been updated and renewed. I saw the low-res Kitana render, and it's just boring, IMO, sorry.
I do acknowledge the POSSIBILITY that there are very well-hidden updates in her look that we can't see in the low-res render. But realistically enough, I also acknowledge how unlikely that is, and how unlikely it is that if there ARE such updates, they'll be satisfying enough to make this new Kitana as "new" as the other characters who were confirmed first.
Hopefully, they will include Mileena and her "unique attributes" will give them some good ideas for her new look, so that she won't suffer the same fate as her "sister".
Jax is fine. I wasn't yearning for his presence, but I did expect him to be in, and he doesn't bother me one bit. Look-wise, he seems to have gone through a couple changes, but his costume IS dominated by dark/earth colors, so we can't see any details. I'll wait for the high-res render before I give further opinions.
Alright, now for the down side...
As for Kitana, it looks like their creativity was way too spent from the other characters by the time they got to her, and they just went the "whatever the fuck" route. I mean, seriously, Sub-Zero and Scorpion are two characters that have kept pretty much the same "type" of design all throughout these years, and the MK Team still managed to spice them up and make them look "refreshed"! Sonya, they let her retain influences of all her past looks, and still, the outcome was surprising, new, and also "refreshed". Even Shang Tsung looks updated, despite our obvious expectations. Then we get Liu Kang with very minor changes, making him look passable but not satisfying. And now Kitana, looking more like "just another of the female ninjas" than ever! The girl already has a hard enough time being unique among her many Edenian counterparts... has the MK Team given up on her or something? I expected Liu Kang to look hopelessly generic, but I thought Kitana was more valuable than he was, enough that she wouldn't go the same route.
I dunno, I hope the high-res render changes my mind, but as of right now, she just looks bland and very boring to look at, like she's wearing a Halloween costume Sindel sewed together just in time for trick-or-treating before the other girls left. Sucks she wasn't given the same amount of attention as the characters who were first announced, particularly the first three chosen characters, Scorpion, Sub, and Sonya (lots of S's in MK, huh?)
queve Wrote:And I agree with her. And yeah, we need to wait for a high res render obviously, for all of them, but this picture pretty much tells us what all those characters look like and what to expect. Joker’s low quality pic is pretty much the main idea of the high render pic we’ve seen too. Except for the great details, everything else is the same.
That's what I think. Looking at the low-res pic of Joker in the YouTube video and then looking at his high-res render, I saw that the bad version, despite omitting very nice details, basically could tell anyone what they did for the Joker model. If I were you guys, I wouldn't expect much of a change in the real Kitana render.
buterbals113085 Wrote:
I don't understand how some people are already critically judging Kitana's look when that low quality image doesn't even show much. Yes, you can see the main idea of it ,but thats about it. I for one love the look and don't mind that its something that we have seen before with some alterations. The same thing goes for the other MK characters like Sub, Scorpion, Shang, and Sonyo. Sub and Scorpion have their traditional ninja outfit, nothing new or revamped. Shang's outfit is similar to that of MK2-MK3. Sonyo, well all she has is a plain white Tshirt and some Cargo pants, I don't see how thats a huge step forward for Sonya, and her look is similar to that of MK4.
I'm sure the majority of the Kitana fans will be pleased by it, those who aren't, well if you haven't been a fan of hers before then Im not sure there is anything that will change your mind now. As long as Kitana's long time fans like her new look, then its all good.
I don't understand how some people are already critically judging Kitana's look when that low quality image doesn't even show much. Yes, you can see the main idea of it ,but thats about it. I for one love the look and don't mind that its something that we have seen before with some alterations. The same thing goes for the other MK characters like Sub, Scorpion, Shang, and Sonyo. Sub and Scorpion have their traditional ninja outfit, nothing new or revamped. Shang's outfit is similar to that of MK2-MK3. Sonyo, well all she has is a plain white Tshirt and some Cargo pants, I don't see how thats a huge step forward for Sonya, and her look is similar to that of MK4.
I'm sure the majority of the Kitana fans will be pleased by it, those who aren't, well if you haven't been a fan of hers before then Im not sure there is anything that will change your mind now. As long as Kitana's long time fans like her new look, then its all good.
I completely disagree. Sub and Scorpion do have their ninja oufits, but enough has been done and updated that they look refreshed, updated. Shang's outfit has similarities to his MK2-3 look, but again, you can tell they spent time on enough minor changes that it makes a noticeable difference, particularly with his hair, facial structure and features, and even overall costume. As for Sonya, you've got it completely backwards, the only part you're 100% right about is the white tank top. She doesn't have cargo pants, in fact, her new style of pants is completely new, same go for her boots (arguably the best part of her costume), beret, gloves, and the small subtleties like the tan lines and lack of bra (as superficial as they are, they do count as minor, yet new qualities). You can tell the MK Team put effort in her new look, cared enough to change a little bit here, change a little bit there, add something new here, put something new there, until she looked new and satisfying for her fans. This isn't the case for Kitana no matter how you look at it, I mean, if I saw that low-res Sonya render before a real screenshot, I could instantly tell she had been updated and renewed. I saw the low-res Kitana render, and it's just boring, IMO, sorry.
I do acknowledge the POSSIBILITY that there are very well-hidden updates in her look that we can't see in the low-res render. But realistically enough, I also acknowledge how unlikely that is, and how unlikely it is that if there ARE such updates, they'll be satisfying enough to make this new Kitana as "new" as the other characters who were confirmed first.
Hopefully, they will include Mileena and her "unique attributes" will give them some good ideas for her new look, so that she won't suffer the same fate as her "sister".

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I agree with everything you said in regards to Kitana, Leo.


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well many moons ago when his show first appeared on tv he would always
run around and shout Shazam!! After all these years I only knew him as
shazam. Hmmm. To me captain Marvel just dosent fit. But why have two superman dudes in one game. Now thats a wasted spot. Should have went to a different type of DC character if U aske me. A female or another
Villian type.
run around and shout Shazam!! After all these years I only knew him as
shazam. Hmmm. To me captain Marvel just dosent fit. But why have two superman dudes in one game. Now thats a wasted spot. Should have went to a different type of DC character if U aske me. A female or another
Villian type.
I'm so glad Jax is in, though I'm a little let down that they put those darn bionic arms on him, again...oh well, I guess that's his trademark (aside from being black). Now I'm hoping they give him his old "Gotcha" grab and dash punch moves.
I was hoping that they'd go retro with Kitana and have her hair undone like in MK2, that alone would've sufficed as a refreshing change of her design for me...
C'mon Raiden and Mileena!
I was hoping that they'd go retro with Kitana and have her hair undone like in MK2, that alone would've sufficed as a refreshing change of her design for me...
C'mon Raiden and Mileena!


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Well this leaves a little bit of something wierd.. we got Jax and Kitana from Comic-Con so that leaves us with:
Sub-Zero
Scorpion
Sonya
Shang Tsung
Liu Kang
Kitana
Jax
There's 20 characters, 10 each side.
I'd think that Raiden would be confirmed by now..but whatever. He should be soon..him and Johnny Cage in my opinion are both characters that would be seen as iconic to MK, but this isn't the thread to discuss that.
Anyways, I see why Jax made the cut, I (like other users in the thread have mentioned) hope that he didn't take the spot for a character 'more iconic' (perhaps Raiden).
I wanna see the Jax render, he's the hardest to see in the vid, for me atleast.
Joker we've seen. Looks good.
I like what they did with Kitana. I always liked the blue suit as the best of her costumes.
And I'm glad it looks like Hal Jordan is the Green Lantern. Looks like he usually does, nothing special but I wanna see a gameplay vid of him haha.
One last note: the announcer saying "Shazam". I lol'd.
Sub-Zero
Scorpion
Sonya
Shang Tsung
Liu Kang
Kitana
Jax
There's 20 characters, 10 each side.
I'd think that Raiden would be confirmed by now..but whatever. He should be soon..him and Johnny Cage in my opinion are both characters that would be seen as iconic to MK, but this isn't the thread to discuss that.
Anyways, I see why Jax made the cut, I (like other users in the thread have mentioned) hope that he didn't take the spot for a character 'more iconic' (perhaps Raiden).
I wanna see the Jax render, he's the hardest to see in the vid, for me atleast.
Joker we've seen. Looks good.
I like what they did with Kitana. I always liked the blue suit as the best of her costumes.
And I'm glad it looks like Hal Jordan is the Green Lantern. Looks like he usually does, nothing special but I wanna see a gameplay vid of him haha.
One last note: the announcer saying "Shazam". I lol'd.
WarriorPrincess Wrote:
Yeah they come in different colors just like American's but at the end of the day they aren't black, White, Latin, Indian, or anything else. I'm sure if any of us were to ask Jade (if she was real of course) is she's Black, Egyptian or Indian, she'd say NO! She is Edenian.
Yeah they come in different colors just like American's but at the end of the day they aren't black, White, Latin, Indian, or anything else. I'm sure if any of us were to ask Jade (if she was real of course) is she's Black, Egyptian or Indian, she'd say NO! She is Edenian.
Oh give me a break lol.
None of her features resemble a black woman to me. I'm also pretty sure I remember hearing an interview about Jade and someone on the team saying that they went for a slightly Middle Eastern vibe with her.


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fong03 Wrote:
Oh give me a break lol.
None of her features resemble a black woman to me. I'm also pretty sure I remember hearing an interview about Jade and someone on the team saying that they went for a slightly Middle Eastern vibe with her.
WarriorPrincess Wrote:
Yeah they come in different colors just like American's but at the end of the day they aren't black, White, Latin, Indian, or anything else. I'm sure if any of us were to ask Jade (if she was real of course) is she's Black, Egyptian or Indian, she'd say NO! She is Edenian.
Yeah they come in different colors just like American's but at the end of the day they aren't black, White, Latin, Indian, or anything else. I'm sure if any of us were to ask Jade (if she was real of course) is she's Black, Egyptian or Indian, she'd say NO! She is Edenian.
Oh give me a break lol.
None of her features resemble a black woman to me. I'm also pretty sure I remember hearing an interview about Jade and someone on the team saying that they went for a slightly Middle Eastern vibe with her.
And what, may you tell me so kindly, does a black woman resemble? Big lips? Weave? She's supposed to resemble a black woman, just accept it. I find it funny the she has to be anything else except what she is meant to resemble, a black woman. Screw "features", we are all different looking, Black people comes in different shades and have different features as well.
And as for that supposed interview you heard , I have never heard about it.


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Thank you Crow! Now we need some renders Midway.


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TheOmniOni Wrote:
Thank you Crow! Now we need some renders Midway.
Thank you Crow! Now we need some renders Midway.
lol at your avy, Heath Ledger's joker is every where, my pastor even preached a sermon with joker type make up on last sunday
And what, may you tell me so kindly, does a black woman resemble? Big lips? Weave? She's supposed to resemble a black woman, just accept it. I find it funny the she has to be anything else except what she is meant to resemble, a black woman. Screw "features", we are all different looking, Black people comes in different shades and have different features as well.
And as for that supposed interview you heard , I have never heard about it.
And as for that supposed interview you heard , I have never heard about it.
Big lips and weave? Those are the only features you could think of? You lost all credibility with that statement alone. You will have to forgive me if i don't just "accept it" and take your word for it that she was meant to resemble a black woman. You don't seem capable of having a serious conversation about the topic. "Screw features?" lol
Anyway, back on topic. I think that the mask less version of Kitana's ninja outfit could have worked, but as others have said I'm not too pleased with how Sonya's face was handled in her render, so perhaps its better that she have her jaw covered! I also disagree with someone who said her pose is "un-ladylike." She is clearly posed for battle, but at the same time she looks quite elegant. Again, we'll have to wait and see her official render so that we can see all of the details.
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