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09/10/2008 03:14 AM (UTC)
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O KNO TEH GROUNROLE!!!

be thankful she isn't being "smoked" up and at least retains some originality. Smoke chokes people with smoke......that's about it in terms of original special moves.
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09/10/2008 04:00 AM (UTC)
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Ninjakata Wrote:
A thanks to John Tobias for answering that question I had about his initial reaction to this MK vs DCU thing. My reaction was similar, but followed by a small hissy fit of anger which I quickly settled at the very helpful rant thread.

I sort of wished that Tobias had the time to elaborate on those characters from Mythologies Sub-Zero and special forces. I would like to hear his opinion on those minor characters(Sareena, Kia, Tremor, Tasia, etc) and if he could see any of those characters playing an important role in a future MK game.

Also I would have liked to have known if John has had any contact with anyone of the real life actors from the 2D games like: Daniel Pesina, Ho Sung Pak, *Kerri Hoskins*, *Lia Montelongo*, John Parrish, Anthony Marquez, Becky Gable, John Turk, Rich Divizio, Sal Divita, etc.

** = I really like her lol.

Listening to the MKast I,m figuring that Tobias probably wouldn't be fond of working on a 60 something character MK game. To him a smaller roster of characters would make it easier to develop a central character and form things around them and what not.

I,m guessing that Goro will be in the game in some form or fashion. I think that you'll at least be able to fight him.

I enjoyed the MKast, and in the Future I'd like to see an MKast with both Boon and Tobias, and perhaps IMO the most awesome sound man on the planet Dan "Toasty" Forden. Vince Pontarelli is a close second. No offense Vince lol.



Jack Burton agrees...

When word reached me that Tobias was back, I was excited. I really think his return will help return the MK franchise to its former glory. I'm praying he stays...

Like Ninjakata, I would love to hear Tobias' thoughts on some of the minor characters from the MK universe. I always found the MK storyline to be intriguing, and with Tobias being a very good storyteller, I would love to find out what sort of direction he thinks the game series should go in, and how the characters are going to factor into the scheme of things.

As for Goro's presence, I also agree there: I think he could very well make some sort of appearance in the game, but he may not be playable. I could see that happening with a lot of MK characters, as well as DC characters. I made mention of this in another discussion in the MK vs. DC forum listing.

I wouldn't mind finding out about the 2-D actors/actresses as well. DAMN, Kerri Hoskins was hot! Kerri, look up Jack Burton on MKO if you happen to ever join, OK? Sorry...off topic. Being a fan of Kung Lao, I would like to find out what happened to Anthony Marquez as well.

I really think they need to have Boon, Tobias, Forden...all of the MK originals...sit down for an interview about what sort of direction they want to take the franchise in. I think that would be sweet. Hell, I'd settle for just an interview with Tobias just to get his take on everything. I'm very interested in seeing just what he can do to help MK be the kick-ass franchise I know it can be. Armageddon, let's face it, was a bit of a disappointment. This game might put things on the upswing, but when it comes right down to it, the next canon MK title, the REAL MK8, is going to be the game that decides what sort of state the franchise is in.

With Tobias back, the chances of the franchise getting better have increased.

And THAT'S what Jack Burton has to say at this time.

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09/10/2008 04:30 AM (UTC)
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I didnt know Hans and Hector liked pop tarts so much
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09/10/2008 05:09 AM (UTC)
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"With Tobias back, the chances of the franchise getting better have increased."


He's doing art for the comic............that's it.
It was nice.

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Haha! It worked again! Schweet.



They kinda' answered my question about almost everyone having a teleport when they usually don't, like Sub Zero.
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09/10/2008 08:54 AM (UTC)
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It was nice.


ThePredator151 Wrote:
Haha! It worked again! Schweet.




They kinda' answered my question about almost everyone having a teleport when they usually don't, like Sub Zero.


Yea man, they pretty much ran down the list and got everything. Well...damn near everything. They even got a bunch of the Tobias questions too.

I think it's awesome they took the time to listen in, and take the fans opinion into consideration. If nothing else, I love that from any organization I spend money with.

Y'know, what it really equates to, is us getting more of the things we care about in the games, and them having a more keen sense of how to approach a new game.

The challenge for us then, is to recognize that those things we asked for...in the actual game when it comes out.

Idk about other people, but I enjoy any product that I spend money on more, knowing that I asked for something, and I actually received it from a producer. Cuz let me tell ya, I am a very hard sell, once I know I don't like something. Just saying that I think they're doing a great job trying to turn someone as "$$-stubborn" as I am about what I buy.

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Um...since they knocked alot of the questions off the list this time, I'm not gonna bust this Mkast down like I usually do. That, and the fact that this one is like, 55min long. wow

Instead, just a few points I wanted to touch on.


[[0:00 - 20:00]] - I like John Edwards. He's "cownt-reh"(country), and he's "cit-eh"(city) at the same time. He actually says the word "my" like "mah", or the word "your" like "yur". lol Refreshing though, not teasing.

a.) Thanks for the Rage mode thing, and the Teleport thing.

Rage mode sounds more reasonable, and I'm still on the fence about the Teleport thing. I'm not sure sensibly, if I'm comfortable about it.

b.) Thanks for the info about how moves and Fatalities get in. Good meat in there.

[[20:01 - 40:00]] About 26min in, I'm glad Tobias kinda admits the idea of MKvsDC made him step back a little in the beginning.

a.) Approx 34min in, on the talk about Kitana, I agree with XiahouDun84. I think he's got a vastly more interesting take on that character. Link in my sig on MKO and Midway boards. She's more interesting a character coming from him, even though I understand now what the motive behind her initially was. She was never a character I paid much attention to, until I read his take on her. Just something to note.

[[40:01 - END]]

a.) Thanks for the props again!

And YES, yes you should hire me. lol. No joke though, haha....

b.) In the sound byte, the male voice sounds like Hans, manipulated a little. I'll wait to see if the voice fits the characters in that sound bytes to determine good or bad.

REALLY glad you guys hired people to do the voices. Now to relax how scripted things sound.....hm. An excellent guideline for improvisation, is better than an excellently written, and read script. "Natural sounding" speech patterns like any good cartoon, or some of these new types of scripted commercials.. I don't wanna hear you guys "reading" anything. Have a conversation in character.

MKA's Konquest mode wasn't bad here, but it still needed some work.

c.) Thanks for knocking all those questions out of the way. Bios sound really interesting to me because I'm pretty big on character development. We'll see....

d.) I think you got at least one, maybe two more audios coming before I'm done.

e.) On the feedback thing, I'll try to get a good helping of the general census in one of my last audios here. One of the last things I wanted to leave you guys with, is something to think about for the future. I gotta at least try once.


Thanks again,and that's all I got this time.
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09/10/2008 04:57 PM (UTC)
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I personally dont really care if Kitana has Mileena's roll, I never found much use for that move, though I dont think it was necessary to give her it. Additionally, its not like a roll is some huge super power, its a roll, everyone can roll. Its not like she's been given Raidens lightning bolts or Liu Kang's fire or the ability to steal souls. Catwoman also has Kitana's evade-backflip that Kitana had in MKDA, (people didnt go apeshit about that), so Im not surprised theyre doing this with moves. Also it doesnt seem Mileena will be included as a playable, so perhaps thats their way of having a bit of all three girl ninja's in there.

Also I didnt get the impression Kitana was evil in this game or that she was paired with Catwoman. Wasnt he talking about when Kitana was first created for MK2, what was inteneded with her? Was she gonna be evil, good, bit of both etc. I think in the reference to Catwoman being an anti-hero, he was just trying to show what he meant about Kitana's character, that she was originally evil and it was always planned that she would switch sides at some point.

Regardless, I dont mind if she's 'paired' with Catwoman, I think there are more similarities with Kitana and Catwoman that there are Kitana and WW or Catwoman and Sonya but thats a different debate on its own I guess.
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09/10/2008 06:23 PM (UTC)
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Was anything new revealed at the Moscow thing mentioned in the MKast? Or was it covered anywhere?
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09/10/2008 06:50 PM (UTC)
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hopefully since they gave stupid Kitana Mileena's rolling thunder thing, Mileena will get a new move and be included in the game so then she can woop kitana's butt for stealing her move! :)
As you can see i dont really like kitana


BRING IN MILEENA!!!!
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09/11/2008 12:51 AM (UTC)
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They ate pop tarts! WTF! *throws a chair at a wall*

Fuck this shit, I'm done -_-

pop tarts....they should know from the pop tart commercials how cruel it is to eat one of those thangs. FUCK! I'm so disgusted right now.

oh yeah, the Johns were awesome
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09/11/2008 03:53 AM (UTC)
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This was a particularly interesting podcast. Pred is the man, man! glasses

Getting into some of the contents of the podcast, it was great to hear from John Tobias and to get some of his insights into things. I'm glad that they are getting more professional voice actors to do the voices of the characters. What I'm not happy about is Kitana getting Mileena's Ground Roll attack. But despite that, I hope the game turns out alright.
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09/12/2008 06:05 AM (UTC)
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I hope they read this.

I wonder if Harley Quinn is going to be in the game as a NPC. I love it when she says Mistah J.
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09/14/2008 06:29 PM (UTC)
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Kitana gets an additional copy/paste move to her record?

Lame.

Now I see why everyone has been hating on Kitana so much, and I just thought it was because of her character model in game. I also find it sad they actually had to be forced to talk about Kitana because people and the team were more excited for other characters and forgot about her.

On the plus side, this kast was very interesting and I love how they talk about Sonya yet again, and Catwoman, (or was this in the number 5?) saying how people loved these two females and how everyone was excited to play with Sonya all the time when the demo was first released and how Catwoman received also great attention from fans and casual players alike.

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*cue venomous rant*

And if Kitana's stuck with her, then that probably means Wonder Woman is going to get stuck with Sonya...who match together even less than Kitana & Catwoman do.
Double shits.


While I couldn’t care less about Wonderwoman, I find it that just your love for both of the “princesses” could make you say something as biased as that.

Anyway, judging by her render, I dont think Kitana will be evil. But anything can happen I suppose.
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09/14/2008 06:52 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
XiahouDun84 Wrote:
*cue venomous rant*

And if Kitana's stuck with her, then that probably means Wonder Woman is going to get stuck with Sonya...who match together even less than Kitana & Catwoman do.
Double shits.


While I couldn’t care less about Wonderwoman, I find it that just your love for both of the “princesses” could make you say something as biased as that.

Anyway, judging by her render, I dont think Kitana will be evil. But anything can happen I suppose.


I don't think that's bias man, I think it's true what he said. Kitana and Wonder Woman make a more sensible match. Kitana'd wear Catwoman out, atop the fact that there's not as many good contrast between the two as there are between her and Wonder Woman.

Same difference between Wonder Woman and Sonya. That's not a good match at all.

There's the one thing they seem to be basing the comparison Kitana to Catwoman on, and it's that at the time in Kitanas history, she's kind of the "turncoat" to the bad guys. Whereas, Catwoman is sort of the opposite. She wants to be good, but she constantly makes the bad guy choices.

That's the terrible part if anything. Should be Kitana and Wonder Woman. they match up better.
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09/14/2008 06:57 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
I find it that just your love for both of the “princesses” could make you say something as biased as that.


People in glass houses....
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09/14/2008 07:07 PM (UTC)
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Pink_Ranger Wrote:
queve Wrote:
I find it that just your love for both of the “princesses” could make you say something as biased as that.


People in glass houses....


Yeah, brilliant, shinny, sparkly and lovely glass houses.

ThePredator151 Wrote:
queve Wrote:
XiahouDun84 Wrote:
*cue venomous rant*

And if Kitana's stuck with her, then that probably means Wonder Woman is going to get stuck with Sonya...who match together even less than Kitana & Catwoman do.
Double shits.


While I couldn’t care less about Wonderwoman, I find it that just your love for both of the “princesses” could make you say something as biased as that.

Anyway, judging by her render, I dont think Kitana will be evil. But anything can happen I suppose.


I don't think that's bias man, I think it's true what he said. Kitana and Wonder Woman make a more sensible match. Kitana'd wear Catwoman out, atop the fact that there's not as many good contrast between the two as there are between her and Wonder Woman.

Same difference between Wonder Woman and Sonya. That's not a good match at all.

There's the one thing they seem to be basing the comparison Kitana to Catwoman on, and it's that at the time in Kitanas history, she's kind of the "turncoat" to the bad guys. Whereas, Catwoman is sort of the opposite. She wants to be good, but she constantly makes the bad guy choices.

That's the terrible part if anything. Should be Kitana and Wonder Woman. they match up better.


Im not denying at all that Kitana and WM are a good match and that they should be together, because like I've said countless times, I agree with that pair!! It only makes sense and it would be happy for Kitana fans who like WM as well! BUT just because the two are great matches, doesnt mean other characters cant suit to match them as well. Kitana and Catwoman might not be as expected as Kitana and WM, but that doesnt mean they cant be great and suit each other, and it most certainly doesnt mean there is absolutely nothing at all to tie them and do a good job. Same with WM and Sonya, and same if someone like Mileena had made the cut.

Thats my point. That and the fact that Im 100% sure that they will be the counterparts of each other. I could be wrong, but I dont want to be wrong.

OH! Forgot to say: My point is also that people are making WAAAAAY too much of a big deal out of something that: a) hasnt even been confirmed and b) doesnt matter, if its well developed. Catwoman pairing with Kitana is not the worst thing in the world if its done well. Too much scandal out of something that doesnt even seem like its going to happen. And even if it does, Im sure its going to be cool.

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Additionally, its not like a roll is some huge super power, its a roll, everyone can roll. Its not like she's been given Raidens lightning bolts or Liu Kang's fire or the ability to steal souls. Catwoman also has Kitana's evade-backflip that Kitana had in MKDA, (people didnt go apeshit about that), so Im not surprised theyre doing this with moves. Also it doesnt seem Mileena will be included as a playable, so perhaps thats their way of having a bit of all three girl ninja's in there.



Fact is its Mileena's move. And regarding the evade-backflip move, that was never a Kitana-specific move, other characters shared that one in the same game as well, just like some others were given a Power-Up.
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09/15/2008 06:07 AM (UTC)
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Detox Wrote:
"With Tobias back, the chances of the franchise getting better have increased."


He's doing art for the comic............that's it.


Well, shit...sad
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09/15/2008 06:41 AM (UTC)
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LMAO...sorry to burst your bubbe there pimpin. He's doing comic book art and if I remember the MKast correctly, design docs for video games(nothing mk related).
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09/15/2008 11:40 AM (UTC)
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Wonder who is going to voice-act Vandall Savage?
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