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10/02/2008 03:57 AM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
He does have the lighting grapple move http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/jtfmkcpics/shaz.jpg

but I agree with you, recycling rains moves is inexcusable.

Pretty weird animation for it, but yeah. My point was really just that the only precedent for a flat-out lightning move is that.

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actually captain marvel has control over lighting bolts and what not....

As the recent successor to Wizard Shazam.
Not (typically) as Captain Marvel.

EDIT: Wikipedia actually has a pretty decent description. If you recognise that 'knowledge of magic' is understanding, rather than execution, it's hard to misconstrue any of his abilities, which mostly amount to the many variations of super strength.
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10/02/2008 04:04 AM (UTC)
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fraysol Wrote:
actually captain marvel has control over lighting bolts and what not....

from the dc database:
Inherent Omnipresent: Apparently possessing the power to be everywhere, at all times (i.e. multiple dimensions and places in time).
Inherent Omniscience: Apparently possessing the power to know anything that he chooses to know and can be known.
Inherent Omnipotent: Apparently possessing the vast magical powers, and ability to make anything he wants.
Telepathy: Ability to read the minds of others and project thoughts.
Sorcery: As the High Lord of Magic, Billy has omnipotent mastery of magics and mysticism. He truly knows magic and can cast any spell to achieve any powerful results. He has unlimited access to Personal, Universal and Dimensional Energies.
Cosmic Awareness: Power to sense the presence of beings and objects in the universe.
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and folks were worried about Superman being overpowered tongue

Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
He does have the lighting grapple move http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/jtfmkcpics/shaz.jpg

but I agree with you, recycling rains moves is inexcusable.

Pretty weird animation for it, but yeah. My point was really just that the only precedent for a flat-out lightning move is that.


ah I see.
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10/02/2008 04:11 AM (UTC)
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What moves would you rather have him perform?

I mean,generic Supes ripoff is generic. Superstrenght,flight? Please.

That's why I was hoping the "mystical hero" spot would be appropriately taken by the most powerful sorcerer in the DC universe,like,I dunno,the FUCKING DOCTOR FATE! He'd have so much more to bring to the table.
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10/02/2008 04:11 AM (UTC)
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I'm liking the immediate transition from the cut scenes into the traditional fight mode.
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10/02/2008 04:37 AM (UTC)
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T-rex Wrote:
What moves would you rather have him perform?

I mean,generic Supes ripoff is generic. Superstrenght,flight? Please.

I'd mock you for having no imagination if what we are talking about wasn't the antithesis of imagination. Representing a character accurately isn't nearly as hard as some people would have you believe!

Flight logically gets around the arbitrary presence of teleport moves (ie; Sonya's square wave punch), while a range of physical attacks easily accomodate the necessary catalogue of special moves.
Flying dash attacks, a boss-level strike visually flourished with lightning crackle, a grinning grapple bearhug... There are any number of alternatives, many of which would differentiate Captain Marvel as a fighter, represent his character more accurately, and are all comaprable to moves littered throughout recent MK history.

So, yes. If you're as dim and uninspired as your post suggests, you can toddle over to a console and find a range of kick, punch, and combo specials in recent games, that will spoon feed you the necessary logic.


Dr. Fate would've been cool, though! Yeah! grin
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10/02/2008 09:33 AM (UTC)
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Now, this is so nerdy... Take it as it is, it's not only for hardcore comics fanboys. Let them do their job.
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10/02/2008 10:11 AM (UTC)
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Warlady Wrote:
Now, this is so nerdy... Take it as it is, it's not only for hardcore comics fanboys. Let them do their job.

... What part of anything discussed sounds like it isn't their job?
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10/02/2008 11:55 AM (UTC)
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Anyone notice that both Kano and Captain Marvel both had the same get-up animation after losing a round? If this is indeed a final version of the game, than that is not good.
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10/02/2008 12:00 PM (UTC)
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I really hope that it's not the final product and some of the moves are still place holders. I notice Batman having the exact same stance and throw/grab as Scorpion.

If it is indeed the final version, then I won't be surprised by the fact that Midway went the lazy route again.
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10/02/2008 12:14 PM (UTC)
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How about somewhere other than youtube?
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10/02/2008 12:35 PM (UTC)
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Warlady Wrote:
it's not only for hardcore comics fanboys.


No they just make up nearly half the market for this game. Durr
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10/02/2008 01:08 PM (UTC)
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I can live with no get up animations, although it would be a nice touch..

I would just be really annoyed if characters shared moves/stances, especially as they said in one of the MKasts that that wouldn't happen.
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10/02/2008 01:53 PM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Captain Marvel... and he doesn't summon lightning bolts to strike his enemies down. He isn't Rain! The lightning ambush should be a grapple move, or at least restricted to close proximity!


But he has done exactly what he did with the lightning in the game in the comics. If you watch Captain Marvel Calls the lightning and then jumps back as it strikes where he was standing, this is one of his tactics in the comics.
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10/02/2008 02:10 PM (UTC)
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Lolacaust Wrote:
Animosity83 Wrote:
Deathbearer Wrote:
It was good but it wasn't anything to really change my mind.
Next month I'll try to rent it and see if I like it or not.


get off the thread. this is for those who enjoyed just getting some new gameplay. the gameplay was great. better than sc4, vf5, street fight, hell all the other fighting games. mk vs dcu is going to win fighting game of the year, hands down


Here we can view the fanboy in his natural habitat, scorning those who don't yield to his way of thinking...truly a marvelous creature to behold.

He's acting like I just bitchslapped and spat on his mother or something. Maybe he's one of the reasons the gaming community laughs at MK fans. Seriously Animosity, stop eating whatever shit Boon tells you to.
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10/02/2008 02:15 PM (UTC)
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Dr.fate would have been an aweseom replacement for Marvel
however now we can have him fight Supes for some Kingdom Come/JLu fun!
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10/02/2008 03:22 PM (UTC)
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Deathbearer Wrote:
Lolacaust Wrote:
Animosity83 Wrote:
Deathbearer Wrote:
It was good but it wasn't anything to really change my mind.
Next month I'll try to rent it and see if I like it or not.


get off the thread. this is for those who enjoyed just getting some new gameplay. the gameplay was great. better than sc4, vf5, street fight, hell all the other fighting games. mk vs dcu is going to win fighting game of the year, hands down


Here we can view the fanboy in his natural habitat, scorning those who don't yield to his way of thinking...truly a marvelous creature to behold.

He's acting like I just bitchslapped and spat on his mother or something. Maybe he's one of the reasons the gaming community laughs at MK fans. Seriously Animosity, stop eating whatever shit Boon tells you to.


How about you stop saying the say shit over and over again, we all fucking know by now your only going to rent it. Just put it in your sig and be done with it
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10/02/2008 03:35 PM (UTC)
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3:15

YES

YES

FUCKING YES CHARACTER SPECIFIC GETUPS. =D
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10/02/2008 03:36 PM (UTC)
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Honestly, what good does it do to quibble over what attacks Captain Marvel was given for this game. If you ask me, they did a pretty good job of differentiating him from Superman, game-play-wise. Though I've never seen him physically throw magic lightning in the comics that I've read, he has summoned the lightning as a set up for his opponents. He'll move out of the way right as it strikes so that he will not get hit and transformed back in his child form (Billy Batson).

That grab move he's doing in the picture with Catwoman is what he did to Superman in the Justice League Unlimited series. Superman is extremely vulnarable to that attack. If Captain Marvel repeatedly called that attack, he could easily kill Superman. The two characters are evenly matched in terms of speed and strength, it's the magic lightning really separates the two.

I'm glad the MK Team went this route with Captain Mavel. Also, I'm glad most of you hate him. Your hate gives me more incentive to use him online and own you with him. I normally play characters that everyone hates because it lets me be unique online. It makes it tougher for my opponents to figure out how to beat me because of the lack of strategies against underplayed characters.


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10/02/2008 03:38 PM (UTC)
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ArmyofErmac Wrote:
Deathbearer Wrote:
Lolacaust Wrote:
Animosity83 Wrote:
Deathbearer Wrote:
It was good but it wasn't anything to really change my mind.
Next month I'll try to rent it and see if I like it or not.


get off the thread. this is for those who enjoyed just getting some new gameplay. the gameplay was great. better than sc4, vf5, street fight, hell all the other fighting games. mk vs dcu is going to win fighting game of the year, hands down


Here we can view the fanboy in his natural habitat, scorning those who don't yield to his way of thinking...truly a marvelous creature to behold.

He's acting like I just bitchslapped and spat on his mother or something. Maybe he's one of the reasons the gaming community laughs at MK fans. Seriously Animosity, stop eating whatever shit Boon tells you to.


How about you stop saying the say shit over and over again, we all fucking know by now your only going to rent it.
Just put it in your sig and be done with it

Going to have to agree with that. Of course you're allowed to say it but it's getting repetitive lol grin
Besides I have no problem with Ed wow
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10/02/2008 03:58 PM (UTC)
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DarzieP Wrote:
3:15

YES

YES

FUCKING YES CHARACTER SPECIFIC GETUPS. =D

Two different characters in the video do the same get-up...
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10/02/2008 04:30 PM (UTC)
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mastermalone Wrote:
I'm glad the MK Team went this route with Captain Mavel. Also, I'm glad most of you hate him. Your hate gives me more incentive to use him online and own you with him. I normally play characters that everyone hates because it lets me be unique online. It makes it tougher for my opponents to figure out how to beat me because of the lack of strategies against underplayed characters.


Peace


Might want to avoid me then, I was elated he got put in the game, he's in my DC top 5:

1.The Question (Vic Sage)
2. Batman
3. Alan Scott
4. Wally West
5. Captain Marvel
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10/02/2008 04:41 PM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
He does have the lighting grapple move http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/jtfmkcpics/shaz.jpg


OMG, the horror! What is he doing to that department store mannequin? wow
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10/02/2008 05:03 PM (UTC)
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Wiki readers shouldn't interpret 'dodge' too substantially.
Not that the repetitive of erroneous opinions of the uninformed aren't thrilling additions to the discussion.

mastermalone Wrote:
If you ask me, they did a pretty good job of differentiating him from Superman, game-play-wise.

I'm not sure I'd call misrepresenting the character to fit the same standardized set of special moves especially impressive. Allowing special moves to deviate more substantically (and accurately) surely would've been the more appreciable option.

To reiterate; there's no reason arbitrary lightning attacks had to be added.
Even MK has some precedent for physical attacks for special moves. Jump on MKA and sift through the KAF menu, imagining lightning flourishes instead of flame effects.
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10/02/2008 05:34 PM (UTC)
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Deathbearer Wrote:
Lolacaust Wrote:
Animosity83 Wrote:
Deathbearer Wrote:
It was good but it wasn't anything to really change my mind.
Next month I'll try to rent it and see if I like it or not.


get off the thread. this is for those who enjoyed just getting some new gameplay. the gameplay was great. better than sc4, vf5, street fight, hell all the other fighting games. mk vs dcu is going to win fighting game of the year, hands down


Here we can view the fanboy in his natural habitat, scorning those who don't yield to his way of thinking...truly a marvelous creature to behold.

He's acting like I just bitchslapped and spat on his mother or something. Maybe he's one of the reasons the gaming community laughs at MK fans. Seriously Animosity, stop eating whatever shit Boon tells you to.


you muthsfuckers are not listening. you act like I just bithed slepped your mom. the fucking video was good. the characters are fucking good. we are all mk fans. mk fans knows what mk is about. it's like you guys say you like mk and always played it but you turn around and say negative things about it. these guys are working very hard to make mk. they cannot please everyone and give everyone what they want
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10/02/2008 06:03 PM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Wiki readers shouldn't interpret 'dodge' too substantially.
Not that the repetitive of erroneous opinions of the uninformed aren't thrilling additions to the discussion.

mastermalone Wrote:
If you ask me, they did a pretty good job of differentiating him from Superman, game-play-wise.

I'm not sure I'd call misrepresenting the character to fit the same standardized set of special moves especially impressive. Allowing special moves to deviate more substantically (and accurately) surely would've been the more appreciable option.

To reiterate; there's no reason arbitrary lightning attacks had to be added.
Even MK has some precedent for physical attacks for special moves. Jump on MKA and sift through the KAF menu, imagining lightning flourishes instead of flame effects.


I hear what you're saying and to that extent, I agree. But the two lightning attacks that he make sense are the ones that have been used in the comic books (i.e. holding a foe while calling upon the bolt, dodging the bolt after calling it with an opponent directly it the bolt's path).

He does not throw lightning bolts from what I've read, so that move is completely fabricated for the game. I'll use it nonetheless as it will be useful during online play. His clap is akin to the Hulk's from Marvel. It's just a display of his immense strength, so that move is entirely feasble for Captain Marvel, Superman, Darksied or any other super powered character.

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