I think that Raiden should become the "new main boss" and rule as an off-set Emperor. As for Fujin, don't really care for him or who becomes the "new protector" of Earthrealm. Pretty much people want Fujin to take Raiden's place on the good side, as much as I think that Bo Rai Cho's ending in MKA should be canon, and he becomes a "God" and protector of Outworld.

Fujin.

Raiden's had his glory.

Now it's Fujin's time to shine!

Neither. If I had to choose, I'd go with Fujin. I don't think he should be playable, though. Keep him behind the scenes. Personally, I'd like to see the Fujin character somewhat retired when he is rewarded by the Elder Gods after Armageddon, and promoted to Elder God status.

The Fujin character makes sense to return from a storyline perspective, but I've never never felt the character too compelling as a fighter. I guess that can all be fixed, but I don't know. Is there any specific reason we really need Fujin back when Earth can have a new protector?

If Raiden returns, I want him to have been punished by the Elder Gods for his fall, and made a mortal. He can be fighting for redemption, while he is learning of how it's not so simply being a mortal. He experiences fear, and a lot of pressure. I don't think the character should be protector at all.

I'd personally go with a completely new character, who starts off as a non-playable entity, but then maybe becomes accessible in later games when he realises he will have to get his hands dirty. You could also promote someone like Kung Lao to that kind of status. Even Johnny Cage would make a fine protector for the next games. It allows whoever steps into the role to return, without stepping on the toes of a new protagonist.

Fujin must be used more, otherwise it would be a waste of potential.

Yeah, well I definitely hope Fujin returns as a the new protector for storyline reasons it's important.

BTW, dude Fujin in MK4 is a top tier character(one of the best in the game) however in MKA he's a low tier(one of the worst) still, in the right hands like me hehe he can be deadly since I play online and all.

He's very deadly in MK4, easy max damage combos, sick moves etc.

I don't think Cage is powerful enough to be the leader of the good guys, his role is definitely more serious now(finally) but no where near leader status. If anything Ermac or Subby would take the human leads.

i would like fujin to be the protector for earthrealm because raiden has done his job long enough. but i would maybe like in the future for raiden and fujin to fuse into one god. it might confuse things in the story but they have insane moves.

Fujin has been Earthrealm's protector god since the end of MK4, and after all this time, he's still Earthrealm's protector god.......

Anyway, I'd like to see both characters return. Fujin should continue being Earthrealm's protector god, and I'd like to see some exploration into his character and how he interacts with the heroes.

Interesting view...

I think Sub-Zero should be more trusted if he becomes the new protector god. And if his MK:A ending is true, he could be an the God of Ice!! That would be so cool. I would love that.


I don't think Ermac should be protector. I think he still has a very dark side.

Subby's a pretty good idea though, IMO.

I still think Fujin should be protector though, and he should be significant in the storyline, like Raiden always was.

kenshi would be a good leader of the good guys him or fujin maybe subby
kenshi would be the best one though

Exactly, what i wanted to hear.

I don't believe Ermac has anymore "darkness" in him honestly, he was only dark because Kahn was controlling him(not on ermac's free will) he was a pawn of Kahn doing harm, then once Kenshi freed him back in early MKD storyline, Ermac realized what he was used for and felt bad for it, that's why he wanted to become good, help the good guys as part of his redemption besides helping out the fight against Evil and Kahn etc.

What I meant as far as human leaders, say a General if you will at Fujin's command being the protector of Earthrealm and all.

Say Ermac, Sub-Zero or Kung Lao honestly. Raiden is still corrupted and Kang lol, well isn't exactly himself either now days lol.

I'd love to see Ermac, Sub or Kung Lao work with Fujin like Kang worked with Raiden being the captain if you will of the Chosen Warriors and all that, with Raiden as their head mentor/leader.

I could probably see Kung Lao being Fujin's right hand man, so to speak. It would be fitting actually since Raiden and Liu Kang were close allies to each other like that.

It couldn't work any other way.

MK8: Raiden goes slightly crazier, Elder Gods tell Fujin to keep an eye on him.
MK9: Raiden goes nuts and evil, Fujin becomes Protector of Earthrealm.

Or something like that.

Yeah, this was also hinted in Fujin's ending(should it be canon) so I'd be up for that, but at the same time can easily see Ermac for some reason working with Fujin down the line....perhaps Sub-Zero as well. I have a few cool ideas that I'd love to see Midway explore

I'll second that.

As for Ermac, I'll stick with my view. There is always some evil in good. It's like drugs. You never completely quit.

But for general, my vote is for Kung Lao.

dont really like fujin i think hes a bit of a waiste of a character to be honest but i wouldnt want raiden in there either i think someone like subzero in his godly form would be a nice touch

My personal preference for the story:

Raiden is a little nuts, and Fujin says enough. He defeats Raiden, and as punishment for his fall, Raiden is stripped of his immortality, and becomes a mortal kombatant, so to speak. Fujin is promoted to Elder God status for his deed, and we get a happy ending to that character.

Kung Lao or a new character then becomes the new protector of Earthrealm, but is not playable. They realise the error of Raiden's ways, and will not step in to fight unless it is absolutely dire to the realm.

Sareena is a Perfect Example, of a What if Ermac. Plus with Shang being the consumer of souls. It's hard to tell what could happen to ermac should he be mislead or betrayed.



??? Sub-Zero is only Grandmaster of the Medallion and the Lin Kuei.

As far as Raiden, if anyone should become a Full Fledged Elder God, It should be Shinnok. He could use Raiden as a template to destroy Fujin. for control of earth realm. Then set his attention to Kahn, maybe align himself with Shang Tsung. Then get control of the Amulet once and for all. Become strong enuff to take over Kahn's rule. And place himself as not only a Eldergod, But the ruler of outworld. Start a New Tournament. Being 8. If his newly reformed alliances win against Kung Lao's. He becomes ruler and overlord of all the realms. Thus becoming greedy. Merging the Kamidogu. Putting toghter the one being's Concious. It's a little far fetched. Im thinking out loud lol. But i like the sound of it.

I think having Fujin back as Earthrealm's protector and Kung Lao as his right-hand-man is a great idea. Cage and Kenshi may also work as well.

i think many characters are going to raise in depth to them and their importance.

kunfg lao, fujin, jade. i think smoke aswell will get a little more attention.

mk8 is a great opportunity to take the story in new directions for every character.

-Casselman

Agreed. Actually, there's alot about that post I like...but i'm gonna head somewhere else here.

Um, yea neither of them should be the mentor character in the near future at all. Fujin's not built like that, so he should have strong points elsewhere.

To me, Fujin seems more passive than Raiden was before the sacrifice. Hell, the according to the element he has, he should be anyway. He should be a stronger activist..but passive about it though. He should be the God that simply influences or "brushes the shoulder of things" to make you see more clearly about something.

He's the guy who's gonna make you choose the left path, instead of the right path without ever saying anything or appearing. As a matter of fact, I think Fujin should be that character that "never talks, but speaks volumes". If you see what I'm saying. It should be to where, if he does say something...the fear of him becomes deafly apparent. Unusually Deep voice...very throaty...almost evil sounding. They need to show us how immense his powers of persuasion are...AND how potent his powers over Wind can get.

Anyway, with all that^^ in mind, to me he looks to be that character that excepts orders unconditionally from the Elder Gods. So that he feels like he could stand up to dark Raiden if taking him down is a task for him in the future.

So I gotta agree with some here, I don't think he should be playable for MK8. It would go against my judgment of him as the character that should heavily influence one or more of the characters that are actually playable....To me, THAT'S Fujin, Protector of Earthrealm, Leader, and the God of wind.

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For Raiden, we should see him having psychotic episodes in MK8. Emotional strain like he's never been exposed to feeling. If my suspicions are correct, whatever he came in contact with that tainted him, is more mortal than he ever was....even if it is a dead//un-dead entity.

We should see him settle in his mental chaos(calm, before the storm..so to speak.), and then draw strength to continue his mission from the part of him that is still the Protector of Earth Realm. He should be confident about "what he must do", but have no answers to method besides "killing" being an unusually front-running option for him.

Doesn't say that he lacks logistics, or a well thought out, tactical plan per se. Just that he should be distanced from patience and reason enough not to choose those options first....sometimes. It'd be interesting to see him give mercy to someone...but then, turn around and kill them anyway since he's hunting bad guys in the first place.

Any victim(and we need to see Raiden kill at least one) should be taken on an emotional roller coaster when they encounter, or are caught by Raiden in their final moment. They should feel surprised, then then be utterly defeated, then vindicated, then meet doom.

Um...we shouldn't hear him speak in Mk8 either....well, actually what would be a nice touch to what I'm talking about is to hear "the voices in his head" fight with each other. Kinda like when Neo met the "Creator" in the Matrix Reloaded. Just very obscene, very violent speech patterns on one side, and then, the voice of righteousness and reason on the other. Then, we should hear//see Raiden come to a very threatening, very scary "calm" about his demeanor.

In MK8 I want to know that Raiden is responsible for the death of at least two usual threats to EarthRealm(one big bad guy, one little one and maybe someone//something else by Raiden current tainted logic).

Says that he's still doing his job...he's just doing it waay wrong. Solidifies that he needs to be stopped, but not exactly killed if it isn't nessasary.

and Lastly about Raiden for MK8, I wanna see one big showdown between him and (the most likely candidates) Fujin and Kung Lao....maybe even a rookie should end up mixed in with them during this confrontation.


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Okay now, my overall view about a mentor type character in MK8, is that there really are none there...yet. Or at least they have yet to be formally introduced to us. Mentors, should exist behind some of the characters that are on the roster, and should only come into play when they feel like their apprentice absolutely needs them to be.

Sometimes, this judgment call leaves the mentor without an apprentice in the end...but then that makes for a good character on the roster too.

Most of this type of character should be too old to be a playable fighter in the first place...so, I'd look for a brand new, relatively young(30 - 45 yrs old) master of martial arts or weaponry. He//She will have lost a student in the past and feels reluctant to entertain any new students because he/she is fighting to avenge the death of someone.(sounds like Bo Rai Cho or Raiden right?).

Little does he//she know, they're about to be derailed in that vengeance for a more noble cause...ect ect ect..

Brand new Mentor character, if there is one...and they should not be on route to that duty when we first meet them.

Heh, How funky would it be is Scorpion was this mentor?

Interesting views here, however I must disagree on a few things.

A. Fujin being "too passive" I disagree with this, in MKA's konquest he was very in your face as we saw a few times, he was pretty aggressive with Taven who's far from an evil character among a few others.

I do believe that Raiden honestly before his soul getting corrupted was aggresive but no more then Fujin has when he's had to, let's face it. In MK3 he didn't even get involved, was only a mentor yet in MK2 he was....despite the rules of the Elder Gods and all that, Raiden could have done more which I would have liked to have seen prior to MK4. It's like they gave Raiden a break in MK3/UMK3 which I honestly always wondered about.

Fujin was pretty fierce in MK4 and in MKA I felt, more so in MK4 but he's not exactly a slope lol. He is afterall a God like Raiden, just a different power.

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B. As someone else said, Ermac or some good guys having evil in them. I don't believe that at all, you see the gig with Raiden & Kang was explained in vivid detail, Raiden's sacrifice merged him, Quan and Shang and when he came back as he reformed, he was corrupted, lost and a bit evil.

The case with Ermac is very different, he was being controlled by Kahn and used for evil. Ermac never "chose" his own path until MKD came along.

There are certain characters that I believe have been and always will be good. Kung Lao, Fujin, Ermac, Kenshi, Sonya, Kitana etc to name a few but guys like this will never change unless someone is controlling them or something.

There's another possibility that I thought of say Neither Fujin nor Raiden return as the "leader/mentor" of the good guys.

Except Ed Boon has gone on record to say this will be a clean slate, and not a continuation of the story, per se.